Why did they choose the New Jersey Institute of Technology for designing the gun?
IIRC, a few years ago New Jersey passed a law saying that as soon as there was a viable technology that would prevent unauthorized users from shooting guns ALL guns sold from that point on in NJ must be so equiped. I'd guess that's why they're working on this tech in New Jersey.
I think the whole idea is dumb. My guns are in one of three places:
On my person
In my safes
On the nightstand (at night)
That's it. Very little chance of one of my guns ever getting into some unauthorized person's hands.
"But,but,but...you have a greater chance of getting killed with your own gun."
Yes, because you're around your own guns more. Just like you have a greater risk of getting cut with a knife that you own, or being hurt around your house, or getting into a car accident in your own car. Because you're around all that stuff more you're more likely to be injured with/around them.
"Thinking makes my head hurt! But what about officer's! They need this to be safe!"
What happens when Officer A needs to use Officer B's gun, maybe because his is jammed, inopperative, or lost?
"Well, each department could just use one sensor for all their guns"
Ok, but what about when State Trooper A needs to use Local Deputy A's gun? Or when Local Cop B needs to use FBI Agent C's pistol?
Or, what happens if Concerned Citizen A needs to use dead Officer B's gun to save her life? Farfetched? Perhaps, but situations like those do happen, and must be planned for.
Because to them, this war is basically the United States saying, "we have the right to invade anyone anytime for any reason, and there's nothing anyone can do about it".
Also in evidence are automatic weapons (highlighted)
Where are the automatic weapons? Don't see any in the picture. The second circled area looks more like a gas tank of some sort than a weapon. Maybe an air cylinder or perhaps it's a refill for the pepper spray? Can't tell from the pic what it is.
Now, in this picture, http://www.goofalicious.com/squat/squat-arrested-1 -detail-a.jpg it certainly looks like the officer handcuffing the man in white has a weapon of some sort, but the pic is waaaaay too grainy to tell what it is. Could be a shotgun, or a carbine, or a subgun, or a tear gas launcher for all I can tell. Doesn't really look like an M16 (I think y'all call them C7s up there) whatever it is. BTW, do you know how to tell the difference, by looking, between a select-fire (automatic) M16 (C7) and a semi-automatic AR15?
I do have a few questions for you, grcumb:
When the police arrived, did they immediately attack?
Did they give no warning whatsoever?
Did the folks inside not have a chance to leave peacably?
Did the squatters want to get pepper sprayed and dragged out of the squat?
Oddest placed I've read Slashdot from was a fracboat in the Persian Gulf, just outside of Abu Dhabi, while tied up to an oil rig.
Also read it from the airport in Amsterdam (Schipol?), the aeropuerto in Bogota, Internet cafes all over western Europe and in Abu Dhabi and Dubai. And once I borrowed my little cousin's Sidekick and read Slashdot whilst taking (leaving?) a crap in the woods.
hmmm...on second thought, that does beat out the boat in the gulf as the oddest place I've read Slashdot.
About a week after I bought it my 233 did that. Freaked me out. I called up the guys that built it and they said it was a virus and the fsckers charged me $80 to fix it. If they were still in business I'd head over there and ask for my money back!
What the hell does long hair have to do with anything?
Sometimes you ask people questions that you know will upset them. If the subject gets emotional and stops thinking, you can sometimes get more truthful answers than the subject intended.
Or you ask questions that are innocent and seemingly meaningless, then you ask the one you really want answered, and they are so used to just answering that they do.
Surely those of you in tech support have used variants of this?
"I haven't installed any virus riddled software off the internet!"
"Of course not. Let me just update our database here. You bought the computer two months ago?"
"Right, March 15th."
"Ok, and you're in Dallas?"
"Lewisville, but same thing."
"Lewisville, ok. Did you get a chance to use our free game, Virtual Pool?"
"Yes, it's very fun. I've gotten so good I'm thinking about buying a real pool table."
"Cool. Have you been to our website?"
"Yup."
"Was it easy to navigate? "
"Oh yeah."
"And what was the program that you downloaded off the internet?"
"Infected_File.exe...shit."
"Gotcha!"
-gandalf23@work
What's the punishment for mailing them out anyway? Jail time? Some sort of fine? Is it worth paying the fine to get the Oscar?
Is the MPAAs ban legally enforceable?
If it is, why not just mail out copies to members of the academy along with a bill for US$0.01. Then you are not giving them to the members, you're selling them copies. No ban against that, is there?
Sanctions were the main reason tens of thousands of Iraqi children died.. utterly ludicrous..
ummmm.....did you not hear about the large amounts of cash found in Iraq? I seem to remember the US finding a billion or two in cash. (I specifically remember some soldiers finding US$650 million in cash in one cache)
With all that money lying around, Saddam could've fed the people if he wanted to, the sanctions had nothing to do with kids dying. Saddam was selling oil through a UN program to buy food and medicine, but instead he blew the money on palaces and cars and shit like that. Saddam is why those poor children died, not the sanctions.
This, combined with the possiblity of military action from the world's superpower, has lead to the near extinction of wars of conquest. Name me more than 5 in the last 50 years -- you won't be able to.
1)North Korea invading South Korea
2)Vietnam's invasion of cambodia
3)North Vietnam invading South Vietnam
4)USSR's invasion of Afghanistan
5)China's invasion of Tibet
6)Grenada
7)Kuwait
8)Cyprus
9)I seem to remember at least three failed invasions of Israel by various Arab countries
10)Three (?) wars between India and Pakistan, at least two of them over the land in Kashmier
11)Croatia invading Bosnia and Serbia (? bit fuzzy on the details of who invaded whom there)
12)The Fawkland Islands invaded by Argentina
13)I'm pretty sure that several African country's have invaded other African countrys in the past 50 years, but don't remember the specifics and you can go google for them yourself, I need to get back to work.
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The US came to regret not taking French advice in Vietnam
What?
The only reason the US became involved in Vietnam is because of the French. They should've ignored the French and backed Ho Chi Minh after WWII. Instead the US supported the French reclaiming their former colony and then when the French pulled out moved in to prop up the South.
Unless you know of some other advice they gave the US?
ummm...so what do we do with all the cows and sheep and chickens and pigs?
Let's say that the whole world decides on Monday to become vegan, what do we do with all the animals? Do we continue to feed and breed them? Do we castrate all of them so they can't breed? Do we stop feeding them? Do we just open the gates and "let Nature decide"? What do we do?
-but it would be much more effective to get as many large trucks off the road as possible.
Shift more cargo traffic to trains. One of the worst things done in America was the expansion/creation of the interstate highways in the 50s. It was done so that there would be a backup to rail transport, but the end result is highways cluttered with Big Rigs and very little train traffic. Go back to using trains (and hire the ex-truck drivers as engineers) and you'll reduce by orders of magnitude the amount of pollution in the air and wear and tear on the roads. Just use trucks for intra-city trucking vs. inter-state and a lot of the problems will go away.
Well, again, if this firearms license covered only publicly funded ranges, then, yes, if you can't pass the test then you aren't allowed to shoot there. But, if there are no publicly funded shooting ranges (like there are publicly funded roads paid for by driver's license fees, car registration fees, and gasoline taxes) then what is the function of the firearm license?
A drivers license is for driving on publicly funded roads only. I just had mine renewed which gives me the use of all public roads in the United States until it expires in 2008. If I never planned on driving on public roads for the next six years then it would not be neccessary for me to have renewed this license. And I can buy a new car without a license. So why should I have to have a license to buy a gun or to use a gun on private property? How does the government have to right to legislate that?
Now, if by firearm license you mean a license to carry a concealed gun on your person in public places then yes, I believe that almost all jurisdictions in the US that allow concealed carry require the passing of a course of some sort. And I would hazard an educated guess that they all go over those three topics. I know that the one in Texas does, haven't applied for a CCW in any other state, so I have no first hand knowledge. Although I am looking at getting a Canadian license as I'll be going up there for a few months in a year or two. But it appears that one can only take the exam whilst in Canada, so it may not be possible to get one in advance. And if such a thing were possible (which, in theory it is, but in practice it is not unless you are the bodyguard to a citizen) I would get one for the United Arab Emirates as I am most likely going back there for a few more months. Not the best place for Americans these days (got spat upon several times and challenged to a duel once the last time I was there). Although on the plus side I can carry a stun gun, pepper spray, and switchblades while in the UAE.:) (but to be honest, all the switchblades I saw over there were, well, crap, [mostly Brazialian or Chinese stuff] so I'll just stick to my Bob Lum Spyderco) But I digress...
Yeah, but you know if a bow is loaded! And if the safety is off!
Ah, but that's why the first rule of gun handling is to treat every gun as if it's loaded.
from http://www.prairienet.org/guns/:
Rule One:
All guns are always loaded.
Rule Two:
Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
Rule Three:
Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target.
Rule Four:
Be sure of your target. (Know what it is, what is in line with it, and what is
behind it. Never shoot anything you have not positively identified.)
Plus it's a lot harder to shoot someone by accident with a bow.
Minor point: No it isn't. In fact, its easier to accidentally shoot someone with a bow. With both weapons, you have to load it first, then put the finger on the "trigger" (in the bow's case the string). To fire the M1A1 you must pull the trigger, to fire the bow you must simply let go of the trigger. Go watch some boy scouts learn how to shoot a bow and you'll see how easy it is to accidentally shoot someone with one. Ask me how I know.:)
Currently it is very tough to own a Class III firearm. You have to have approval of your local law enforcement offical (usually a Sheriff or Cheif of Police), pay a federal tax of $200, and go through a several month background check (at least it take the ATF several months to do it). And, curently, you can only legally own a Class III firearm that was made _and_ imported to the country prior to 1986. Plus by purchasing the Class III firearm you agree to a visit by the ATF once per year to check up on it. And unofficially you agree to get harassed by know it all dumbassess every time you take it to a range to shoot. So there are already plenty of restrictions on and hurdles to jump to own a Class III firearm. I don't see why they have the 1986 date thing. Why can't we purchase newer made ones or newly imported ones?
Anyway,currently there is no higher standard of training involved in owning a Class III firearm, yet when is that last time you heard of a legal Class III that was used in a crime? I have never heard of one. The guys that robbed the bank near Disney Land a few years ago used semi-suto rifles that they illegally converted to full auto. The guns gangs use in their shootings are usually imported on the same plane or boat that their drugs come in on. Or are imported by the Chinese millitary (http://www.pacificnews.org/jinn/stories/2.11/9605 28-gun.html)
Slashdot Mirror
Family Guy?
IIRC, a few years ago New Jersey passed a law saying that as soon as there was a viable technology that would prevent unauthorized users from shooting guns ALL guns sold from that point on in NJ must be so equiped. I'd guess that's why they're working on this tech in New Jersey.
I think the whole idea is dumb. My guns are in one of three places:
On my person
In my safes
On the nightstand (at night)
That's it. Very little chance of one of my guns ever getting into some unauthorized person's hands.
"But,but,but...you have a greater chance of getting killed with your own gun."
Yes, because you're around your own guns more. Just like you have a greater risk of getting cut with a knife that you own, or being hurt around your house, or getting into a car accident in your own car. Because you're around all that stuff more you're more likely to be injured with/around them.
"Thinking makes my head hurt! But what about officer's! They need this to be safe!"
What happens when Officer A needs to use Officer B's gun, maybe because his is jammed, inopperative, or lost?
"Well, each department could just use one sensor for all their guns"
Ok, but what about when State Trooper A needs to use Local Deputy A's gun? Or when Local Cop B needs to use FBI Agent C's pistol?
Or, what happens if Concerned Citizen A needs to use dead Officer B's gun to save her life? Farfetched? Perhaps, but situations like those do happen, and must be planned for.
-gandalf23@work
President Carter, a nuclear engineer in the US Navy, also pronouced nucular that way.
It's a southern thing.
Kinda like pecan is "puh khan" (a yummy nut, good for pies) not "pee can" (what you piss into on a bass boat).
-gandalf23@work
Why do you insist on forcing your beliefs on others?
I'd ask you the same thing
No, that was Panamma, or Grenada.
Where are the automatic weapons? Don't see any in the picture. The second circled area looks more like a gas tank of some sort than a weapon. Maybe an air cylinder or perhaps it's a refill for the pepper spray? Can't tell from the pic what it is.
Now, in this picture, http://www.goofalicious.com/squat/squat-arrested-1 -detail-a.jpg it certainly looks like the officer handcuffing the man in white has a weapon of some sort, but the pic is waaaaay too grainy to tell what it is. Could be a shotgun, or a carbine, or a subgun, or a tear gas launcher for all I can tell. Doesn't really look like an M16 (I think y'all call them C7s up there) whatever it is. BTW, do you know how to tell the difference, by looking, between a select-fire (automatic) M16 (C7) and a semi-automatic AR15?
I do have a few questions for you, grcumb:
When the police arrived, did they immediately attack?
Did they give no warning whatsoever?
Did the folks inside not have a chance to leave peacably?
Did the squatters want to get pepper sprayed and dragged out of the squat?
-gandalf23@work
Also read it from the airport in Amsterdam (Schipol?), the aeropuerto in Bogota, Internet cafes all over western Europe and in Abu Dhabi and Dubai. And once I borrowed my little cousin's Sidekick and read Slashdot whilst taking (leaving?) a crap in the woods.
hmmm...on second thought, that does beat out the boat in the gulf as the oddest place I've read Slashdot.
-Gandalf23@work
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-gandalf23
Sometimes you ask people questions that you know will upset them. If the subject gets emotional and stops thinking, you can sometimes get more truthful answers than the subject intended.
Or you ask questions that are innocent and seemingly meaningless, then you ask the one you really want answered, and they are so used to just answering that they do.
Surely those of you in tech support have used variants of this?
"I haven't installed any virus riddled software off the internet!"
"Of course not. Let me just update our database here. You bought the computer two months ago?"
"Right, March 15th."
"Ok, and you're in Dallas?"
"Lewisville, but same thing."
"Lewisville, ok. Did you get a chance to use our free game, Virtual Pool?"
"Yes, it's very fun. I've gotten so good I'm thinking about buying a real pool table."
"Cool. Have you been to our website?"
"Yup."
"Was it easy to navigate? "
"Oh yeah."
"And what was the program that you downloaded off the internet?"
"Infected_File.exe...shit."
"Gotcha!" -gandalf23@work
Isn't that what you're doing here?
What's the punishment for mailing them out anyway? Jail time? Some sort of fine? Is it worth paying the fine to get the Oscar?
Is the MPAAs ban legally enforceable?
If it is, why not just mail out copies to members of the academy along with a bill for US$0.01. Then you are not giving them to the members, you're selling them copies. No ban against that, is there?
-gandalf23@work
ummmm.....did you not hear about the large amounts of cash found in Iraq? I seem to remember the US finding a billion or two in cash. (I specifically remember some soldiers finding US$650 million in cash in one cache)
With all that money lying around, Saddam could've fed the people if he wanted to, the sanctions had nothing to do with kids dying. Saddam was selling oil through a UN program to buy food and medicine, but instead he blew the money on palaces and cars and shit like that. Saddam is why those poor children died, not the sanctions.
1)North Korea invading South Korea
2)Vietnam's invasion of cambodia
3)North Vietnam invading South Vietnam
4)USSR's invasion of Afghanistan
5)China's invasion of Tibet
6)Grenada
7)Kuwait
8)Cyprus
9)I seem to remember at least three failed invasions of Israel by various Arab countries
10)Three (?) wars between India and Pakistan, at least two of them over the land in Kashmier
11)Croatia invading Bosnia and Serbia (? bit fuzzy on the details of who invaded whom there)
12)The Fawkland Islands invaded by Argentina
13)I'm pretty sure that several African country's have invaded other African countrys in the past 50 years, but don't remember the specifics and you can go google for them yourself, I need to get back to work.
-gandalf23@work
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What?
The only reason the US became involved in Vietnam is because of the French. They should've ignored the French and backed Ho Chi Minh after WWII. Instead the US supported the French reclaiming their former colony and then when the French pulled out moved in to prop up the South.
Unless you know of some other advice they gave the US?
American justice at its best
Which is it? Candian or American justice?
ummm...so what do we do with all the cows and sheep and chickens and pigs?
Let's say that the whole world decides on Monday to become vegan, what do we do with all the animals? Do we continue to feed and breed them? Do we castrate all of them so they can't breed? Do we stop feeding them? Do we just open the gates and "let Nature decide"? What do we do?
-gandalf23@work
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-Professor Steamhead
Shift more cargo traffic to trains. One of the worst things done in America was the expansion/creation of the interstate highways in the 50s. It was done so that there would be a backup to rail transport, but the end result is highways cluttered with Big Rigs and very little train traffic. Go back to using trains (and hire the ex-truck drivers as engineers) and you'll reduce by orders of magnitude the amount of pollution in the air and wear and tear on the roads. Just use trucks for intra-city trucking vs. inter-state and a lot of the problems will go away.
-Gandalf23
A drivers license is for driving on publicly funded roads only. I just had mine renewed which gives me the use of all public roads in the United States until it expires in 2008. If I never planned on driving on public roads for the next six years then it would not be neccessary for me to have renewed this license. And I can buy a new car without a license. So why should I have to have a license to buy a gun or to use a gun on private property? How does the government have to right to legislate that?
Now, if by firearm license you mean a license to carry a concealed gun on your person in public places then yes, I believe that almost all jurisdictions in the US that allow concealed carry require the passing of a course of some sort. And I would hazard an educated guess that they all go over those three topics. I know that the one in Texas does, haven't applied for a CCW in any other state, so I have no first hand knowledge. Although I am looking at getting a Canadian license as I'll be going up there for a few months in a year or two. But it appears that one can only take the exam whilst in Canada, so it may not be possible to get one in advance. And if such a thing were possible (which, in theory it is, but in practice it is not unless you are the bodyguard to a citizen) I would get one for the United Arab Emirates as I am most likely going back there for a few more months. Not the best place for Americans these days (got spat upon several times and challenged to a duel once the last time I was there). Although on the plus side I can carry a stun gun, pepper spray, and switchblades while in the UAE. :) (but to be honest, all the switchblades I saw over there were, well, crap, [mostly Brazialian or Chinese stuff] so I'll just stick to my Bob Lum Spyderco) But I digress...
-Gandalf23
Ah, but that's why the first rule of gun handling is to treat every gun as if it's loaded.
from http://www.prairienet.org/guns/:
-gandalf23
Minor point: No it isn't. In fact, its easier to accidentally shoot someone with a bow. With both weapons, you have to load it first, then put the finger on the "trigger" (in the bow's case the string). To fire the M1A1 you must pull the trigger, to fire the bow you must simply let go of the trigger. Go watch some boy scouts learn how to shoot a bow and you'll see how easy it is to accidentally shoot someone with one. Ask me how I know. :)
Currently it is very tough to own a Class III firearm. You have to have approval of your local law enforcement offical (usually a Sheriff or Cheif of Police), pay a federal tax of $200, and go through a several month background check (at least it take the ATF several months to do it). And, curently, you can only legally own a Class III firearm that was made _and_ imported to the country prior to 1986. Plus by purchasing the Class III firearm you agree to a visit by the ATF once per year to check up on it. And unofficially you agree to get harassed by know it all dumbassess every time you take it to a range to shoot. So there are already plenty of restrictions on and hurdles to jump to own a Class III firearm. I don't see why they have the 1986 date thing. Why can't we purchase newer made ones or newly imported ones?
Anyway,currently there is no higher standard of training involved in owning a Class III firearm, yet when is that last time you heard of a legal Class III that was used in a crime? I have never heard of one. The guys that robbed the bank near Disney Land a few years ago used semi-suto rifles that they illegally converted to full auto. The guns gangs use in their shootings are usually imported on the same plane or boat that their drugs come in on. Or are imported by the Chinese millitary (http://www.pacificnews.org/jinn/stories/2.11/9605 28-gun.html)
_Gandalf23