i can even picture it: addict: "man, i'm in real need for some open-source shit, please man" open-source dealer: "when you get the money, come back" addict: "please, man! i'll do anything: i can steal the neighborhood, i can rape, i'll kill for a last dose!!" open-source dealer: "until i see the money, it's just M$ and RIAA stuff for you" addict: "nah, man! that stuff is bad, just bad! I'm in need for the real shit, man! please!!"
1980: Defender, Galaga, Zork 1987: The Legend of Zelda, R-Type 1988: Kenseiden, Phantasy Star 1989: Tetris, TMNT Arcade, Metroid II 1991: Sonic the Hedgehog, Dragon Quest IV, Street Fighter II 1993: Star Fox, Streets of Rage II, Gunstar Heroes, Equinox 1994: Super Metroid, Final Fantasy VI, DKC, Daytona Racing 1995: Chrono Trigger 1996: Super Mario 64, Goldeneye 007 1997: Castlevania: SotN, Final Fantasy VII 1998: Metal Gear Solid, Zelda: OoT, Banjo-Kazooie, Resident Evil 2
remember you're not the only one hiring people to work on "our" electrical system. If there's a problem, its worries are shared by many and the solution likely to come quicker.
"The people are not opressed, users are free to use what they like."
yes, they can get home their fancy new PC, wipeout the Windows that come inside, install Ubuntu, download NVidia drivers, google for their scanner/printer/etc drivers, recompile the kernel, hope it works and then google for Cedega or try Wine to play the latest games, buy Office and try to run it under Wine for those persky documents friends keep sending and don't open alright in OpenOffice, try to run the new MSN beta via Wine so that they can videotalk with their friends, download gstreamer-ugly-plugins for those patented video/audio formats and whatmore...
yes, users are free to live in a fucked up world dominated by a large company involved in every bit of our digital lifes...
".NET simply provides the programmer with the ability to program in the language they either know better or in a language that seems better suited to the job, without taking a performance hit, since they all compile to the same intermediate language."
Using natively compiled languages too the programmer can choose the language they know better and interoperate with a bigshit framework either via language bindings or IPC, and they'll get compiled to the very same "intermediate language": assembly!
So, how is this different from going.Net?
oh, yes, i know! natively compiled languages perform far better...
So, again: you're stuck with it because nobody stops using M$ and nobody stops using M$ because they think just like you. It's a doubly recursive situation, eating lots of heap space -- no tail-call optimizations here -- and bound to create a deadlock. Eventually, such a scheme will lead to a halt and generate a core dump...:)
On a more concrete perspective, i'd suggest keeping a few M$Office licenses around, for the few people who really need it -- like your accountant dude -- if your company is truly that dependable on legacy docs. You know, for the sake of full compatibility.
And make everybody else use OpenOffice with ODF docs from now on. That way, no more of such dependency from one company in the near future. In the case your clients do not have OpenOffice installed -- or refuse to do so for whatever reasons -- exchange documents with them in PDF, easily exportable from OpenOffice.
now, the way you talked about, it seems your company managed to get a migration completely wrong by trying a complete migration in one step, at least that's what it sounded about...
anyway, possibly the new XML format for M$Office documents will make things easier for OpenOffice, since a lot of trial-and-error from trying to figure out the old binary formats is , hopefuly, mostly gone...
A PC for people without any training or experience whatsoever should have:
* Voice recognition, so the user can yell at and curse the machine with comfort * AI intelligent enough to handle stupid questions and demands * The always handy CD-drive so the user can use it as a coffe-mug support... * one-button mouse for those compulsive M$-geared next-clickers... * VR 3D-glasses rather than a monitor, so that users can imerse themselves into a 3D desktop and search for files and other resources scattered all over in dark, messy 3D labyrinths filled with daemons, trojans and other plagues... good thing you have your handy BFG with you...
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first one, of course, is: "How can i make a woman tick?"
i just don't devote any more time to these 2 questions anymore...
i can even picture it:
addict: "man, i'm in real need for some open-source shit, please man"
open-source dealer: "when you get the money, come back"
addict: "please, man! i'll do anything: i can steal the neighborhood, i can rape, i'll kill for a last dose!!"
open-source dealer: "until i see the money, it's just M$ and RIAA stuff for you"
addict: "nah, man! that stuff is bad, just bad! I'm in need for the real shit, man! please!!"
"but it seems to me that they can't modify the EULA for Windows and have the changes retroactively effect existing users"
seems someone never took the time to actually read a M$ EULA. too bad... for them!
sure lots of hobbyist geeks programming in their basements are eager to implement financial software in their spare time...
some apps simply don't have enough sex appeal...
no, you sure know M$ is doing this to make for an easier Vista upgrade. timing is essential...
whoa! forgot Yoshi's Island, right next to Chrono Trigger. :)
my top 11, apologies for any incorrect dates:
1980: Defender, Galaga, Zork
1987: The Legend of Zelda, R-Type
1988: Kenseiden, Phantasy Star
1989: Tetris, TMNT Arcade, Metroid II
1991: Sonic the Hedgehog, Dragon Quest IV, Street Fighter II
1993: Star Fox, Streets of Rage II, Gunstar Heroes, Equinox
1994: Super Metroid, Final Fantasy VI, DKC, Daytona Racing
1995: Chrono Trigger
1996: Super Mario 64, Goldeneye 007
1997: Castlevania: SotN, Final Fantasy VII
1998: Metal Gear Solid, Zelda: OoT, Banjo-Kazooie, Resident Evil 2
no, i truly don't dig PC games.
"OpenXML will be considered if it becomes an accepted standard, and enough applications use it"
yes, sure it will become an accepted standard -- by sheer weight of their monopoly on desktop OS.
and plenty applications will use it: M$ Office Basic Edition, M$ Office Starter Edition, M$ Office Professional Edition, M$ Office Director's Cut Edition etc
btw, M$ will support ODF when WinFS is finally released.
try Ballmer
i don't mind karma points, but i didn't have moderation points and thought your comment was right on the money.
"pigs don't actually sweat"
;)
are you sure? where do you think that tasty salty pork flavor comes from?
yes, please
remember you're not the only one hiring people to work on "our" electrical system. If there's a problem, its worries are shared by many and the solution likely to come quicker.
"developer, developers, developers..."
use the Ballmer mantra, Darl. you have to sweat like a pig to convince your audience...
"The people are not opressed, users are free to use what they like."
yes, they can get home their fancy new PC, wipeout the Windows that come inside, install Ubuntu, download NVidia drivers, google for their scanner/printer/etc drivers, recompile the kernel, hope it works and then google for Cedega or try Wine to play the latest games, buy Office and try to run it under Wine for those persky documents friends keep sending and don't open alright in OpenOffice, try to run the new MSN beta via Wine so that they can videotalk with their friends, download gstreamer-ugly-plugins for those patented video/audio formats and whatmore...
yes, users are free to live in a fucked up world dominated by a large company involved in every bit of our digital lifes...
"Businesses like paying for their software."
Why, pay open-source developers to work on specific projects, then.
or donate to large free software projects and Foundations. or just contribute back code...
but no, let's pay compulsory taxes to this large marketing-drone just so we can be reassured that we can blame someone...
what would you expect from Parreira? ;)
ok, cumpadi, ficamos por aqui...
"I think it was Macintosh that originally discovered that putting your technology into the hands of your youth ensures your future."
hmph! companies have been targetting young ones ever since Joe Camel...
another software promise that didn't work all that great.
* Microsoft Coffee Machine! ...
* Microsoft eBook Store!
* Microsoft toilet paper!
* Microsoft Radio Station!
contr^H^H^H^H^H... covering all aspects of your digital life!
".NET simply provides the programmer with the ability to program in the language they either know better or in a language that seems better suited to the job, without taking a performance hit, since they all compile to the same intermediate language."
.Net?
Using natively compiled languages too the programmer can choose the language they know better and interoperate with a bigshit framework either via language bindings or IPC, and they'll get compiled to the very same "intermediate language": assembly!
So, how is this different from going
oh, yes, i know! natively compiled languages perform far better...
So, again: you're stuck with it because nobody stops using M$ and nobody stops using M$ because they think just like you. It's a doubly recursive situation, eating lots of heap space -- no tail-call optimizations here -- and bound to create a deadlock. Eventually, such a scheme will lead to a halt and generate a core dump... :)
On a more concrete perspective, i'd suggest keeping a few M$Office licenses around, for the few people who really need it -- like your accountant dude -- if your company is truly that dependable on legacy docs. You know, for the sake of full compatibility.
And make everybody else use OpenOffice with ODF docs from now on. That way, no more of such dependency from one company in the near future. In the case your clients do not have OpenOffice installed -- or refuse to do so for whatever reasons -- exchange documents with them in PDF, easily exportable from OpenOffice.
now, the way you talked about, it seems your company managed to get a migration completely wrong by trying a complete migration in one step, at least that's what it sounded about...
anyway, possibly the new XML format for M$Office documents will make things easier for OpenOffice, since a lot of trial-and-error from trying to figure out the old binary formats is , hopefuly, mostly gone...
"until EVERBODY stops using M$, I'm stuck with it"
doh! you're stuck with it because nobody stops using M$ and nobody stops using M$ because they think just like you. chicken or egg?
A PC for people without any training or experience whatsoever should have:
* Voice recognition, so the user can yell at and curse the machine with comfort
* AI intelligent enough to handle stupid questions and demands
* The always handy CD-drive so the user can use it as a coffe-mug support...
* one-button mouse for those compulsive M$-geared next-clickers...
* VR 3D-glasses rather than a monitor, so that users can imerse themselves into a 3D desktop and search for files and other resources scattered all over in dark, messy 3D labyrinths filled with daemons, trojans and other plagues... good thing you have your handy BFG with you...
wow! does this mean we'll get to see yet more M$ employees praising the company in their blogs?!