It's a little different - the ecosystem, yes - vertical integration is their game, but for your data they are opposed to lock-in.
Office apps: documented, open XML format (making it very easy and supported to write converters if you don;t want to use the format itself). Audio: AAC Video: H.264 Email:.mbox Calendars/contacts: vcard/icalendar
They want you using Apple hardware and software, but they make it easy to move your data in and out of the ecosystem as you choose.
Well, it proved it in the sense that tablets with full desktop OSes have been on sale for many, many years and when the iPad went on sale it sold at twice the rate of the iPhone and continues at that pace even after the reviews are in.
There are already many tablets that are portable computers; they just don't sell well.
iPad/Android/WebOS tablet, however, looks like it has some promise.
This does mean I have a tendency to speak in short, cryptic messages, and when people ask me whet time I'll be at a meeting I always reply "I have always been here".
The phone is subsidised by the contract, but the price of the contract does not change if I bring my own iPhone. So whether I pre-buy the phone as a Pay-as-you-go and then later want to use the contracts with unlimited data, or I start from scratch and get a new iPhone with that same contract, I pay the same.
Just like the Android phones - if I bring my own HTC Desire it costs the same as if I got a new Desire on the data contract.
There's no such thing as a free lunch, and the phone is clearly being paid for in both circumstances, but there is no additional up-front cost for the phone (the 32GB 3GS has a slight up front surcharge, the 16GB 3GS is free).
So pretty much exactly like on Windows then, if you want to draw your app with native widgets.
I guess they could do it with X (which is installed by default in 10.6 now, and optional on 10.5 and below). They are not obligated to use the cocoa framework, although it's obviously beneficial if they do - and they only really need it for the steam UI.
"Have I seen HFS+ used anywhere" - on every Mac computer I own, since OS 9.
Nitro: rewritten, based on Squirrelfish, faster and more efficient. Better than them not doing anything eh? But an also ran? Webkit's penetration (including its JS engine) has been steadily increasing since its release, and not just in Apple projects. Either way, it's fully GPL so any code you like the look of you can take and put in your own JS engine of choice.
CUPS: they did not create it, but they hired the guy who did and have continued to put considerable development time and resources into it since that time.
Bonjour is one of *the* zeroconf implementations, with Apple-written protocols that are open and widely supported (namely multicasr DNS and DNS SD as opposed to Microsoft's method). Apple developed these and released them for use.
launchd has been a success on OS X, and is fully open source so any project is free to use it if they wish. Hey, what upstart and init could do is use some of the source code from launchd if they found a little bit that they particularly liked. Wouldn't that be something? Isn't open source amazing.
I'm not sure how Darwin, a fully POSIX compliant certified Unix can be a "trinket", especially as it is the core of a major commercial Unix OS, but each to their own.
The overall point being, while many people want to paint Apple as some easy-to-define "evil" company, they have contributed an enormous amount to open source projects, they run many of their own, and they do far more (ie, releasing code and projects etc) than they are legally obligated to do so by the licences they use.
The argument that rises from Webkit is that they had no choice but to release their changes since it is all GPL, which is true, but they have rolled things into the project that didn't have to be GPL. They use a lot of BSD-covered code, which has no requirement for source code release, but they do it anyway - they are well aware that it is a mutually beneficial relationship.
They've made some decisions that are stupid (as any company does), that I don;t agree with, but they are not some Machiavellian character out to do evil at every turn. Their OS business model is Open Source with Closed Source on top, and they have been very successful with it, and the OSS community at large has also had great benefits.
Probably not, unless it's in very small quantities. Atmospheric concentration is pretty low, and either way, at 1 bar it doesn't freeze until about -78C. I don't think there are any natural places on Earth that cold.
In the science of cold, solid CO2 has had the colloquial name of dry ice for as long as I can remember. Saying "CO2 ice" gets the meaning across perfectly that you mean solid CO2.
In this context, it forms in the same way as water ice does here in winter conditions, it's just a different molecule.
Oh it's not a problem per se, the very nature of humanity is that we are not all totally homogenous.
It only becomes an issue when the majority attempt to squash and destroy the minority, or paint that minority as clueless/idiotic/retarded/fanboi/sheeple/etc.
This is not just an Apple condition - it is the case for several things on here, depending on context - Google, for example, seems to be loved for Android or hated like some giant big brother stealing your privacy, depending on what day it is.
I probably shouldn't have generalised - I own a 3G, and I know there are many slashdot folk who do like the iPhone, just as there are some who like Microsoft, but more and more it seems like liking Apple is going against the majority.
Can you show me some examples of past "made up benchmarks" that make you expect them?
Lab benchmarks are pretty staple for the tech industry - they are not unique to Apple, and all are conducted with benching suites that often don't reflect real-world use. The same sort of people who take them as gospel are the same sorts of people who look at the benchmarks for the latest GPUs being tested at tomshardware.com.
My iPhone has tethering (no jailbreak), and I have a choice of carriers (no jailbreak), a cheap data plan (unlimited 3G and edge included in my plan, which is cost equivalent to the blackberry/HTC/WinMob handset plans), lets me put apps and icons on my home screen how I want (although not with widgets - that is a very cool feature of Droid that I wish he iPhone had), and my phone also works on Windows, Mac and Linux (jailbreak required for sync on Ubuntu though if I want it).
It's really not all that different.
I wish I could get those Android widgets on the iPhone. Those and Google's turn by turn app (the Tom Tom/Garmin/etc apps on iPhone are nice but expensive) are making me look at Droid as my potential next phone, and my contract is up in July. Let's compare on actual differences. Of your list, the ability to multitask with third party apps, and the ability to use Flash and the screen res were the only things that set your handset apart - the others being the same or totally subjective.
It seems like Apple, while offering some things that may appeal to the slashdot crowd (OS X), and some things that don't (iPhone) but slashdot seems compelled to discuss them to death anyway.
I liken it to a Ford enthusiast's forum which continues to have articles about GM submitted to the feed by its members, only for those same members to talk about how they don't want to hear about GM any more.
Or a heavy metal forum that seems obsessed with talking about indie music, and moaning bitterly about how indie music doesn't appeal to them and is nothing like metal, but who won;t stop talking about it.
And I agree, you expect heavy trolling in the comments (when in the tech world are you going to find a universally liked company), but the editorial trolling is just lame.
I'm using Virgin in the UK right now, and that is no longer the case. They will troubleshoot and support a router-based connection - the cable box outputs bog standard ethernet, and they don't care what you have it hooked up to.
Yeah, I blame my parents for sending me to Catholic school - I asked them to instead send me to Neverland. At least afterwards I'd get to go on the fun fair.
Read the other post where I addressed intelligence - where does it say that you need to be intelligent to find it funny? I said it may not be aimed at him, ie subjective humour, as he doesn't find *any* of them funny - thus, clearly not his style of humour.
Also, interactions with women? Is that what heterosexual people do? Or are you inferring that people who like xkcd are inherently virgins regardless of sexuality?
They also endorse fucking kids, so it's swings and roundabouts.
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They stated from the very beginning they wanted DRM-free, but the content providers would not go for it. It was not their choice, but it was the only way to get the content in the first place and open up the music industry to even consider selling music on the net in the first place (regardless of other online services).
Do you remember "Rip, Mix. Burn"? Do you remember the trivial method of defeating the DRM, that Apple strongly encouraged you to use (from within iTunes itself) whenever you downloaded a song? They never wanted it, and did the minimum required to implement a deliberately trivial scheme that could be broken from within the iTunes app itself!
I also offered only one example, so the sarcasm really isn't warranted. Well, perhaps it is but it is misplaced. Other examples would be using H.264 for iTunes video content (still not DRM free yet due to movie/tv studios, but being worked on), original choice in iTunes to rip your CDs as either AAC or mp3 (compared to Windows media player using.wma), settling on an open, documented XML format for their office apps (iWork, etc) rather than something closed like.doc or.docx), use of.mbox format for their Mail application, rather than a closed MS-only format as used in Outlook/OLE...
Any more examples?
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Why exactly? Apple's previous track record with content is not only getting the music industry to agree to sell content on the internet, but to (eventually) do it without DRM. Even if they weren't the very first to offer it, they made it a profitable and viable model that broke the industry's mindset that was firmly "why would people pay when they can just get it off a p2p service".
In their history they tend to go for (if patented) at least open codecs and formats (with the exception of Sorenson in Quicktime, but it didn't last long).
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It's a little different - the ecosystem, yes - vertical integration is their game, but for your data they are opposed to lock-in.
Office apps: documented, open XML format (making it very easy and supported to write converters if you don;t want to use the format itself). .mbox
Audio: AAC
Video: H.264
Email:
Calendars/contacts: vcard/icalendar
They want you using Apple hardware and software, but they make it easy to move your data in and out of the ecosystem as you choose.
Well, it proved it in the sense that tablets with full desktop OSes have been on sale for many, many years and when the iPad went on sale it sold at twice the rate of the iPhone and continues at that pace even after the reviews are in.
There are already many tablets that are portable computers; they just don't sell well.
iPad/Android/WebOS tablet, however, looks like it has some promise.
I use Vorlon exclusively.
This does mean I have a tendency to speak in short, cryptic messages, and when people ask me whet time I'll be at a meeting I always reply "I have always been here".
Next on the target list are Perl scripts.
A PTC saw someone writing some Perl and nearly fainted at the offence.
I don't use AT&T.
The phone is subsidised by the contract, but the price of the contract does not change if I bring my own iPhone. So whether I pre-buy the phone as a Pay-as-you-go and then later want to use the contracts with unlimited data, or I start from scratch and get a new iPhone with that same contract, I pay the same.
Just like the Android phones - if I bring my own HTC Desire it costs the same as if I got a new Desire on the data contract.
There's no such thing as a free lunch, and the phone is clearly being paid for in both circumstances, but there is no additional up-front cost for the phone (the 32GB 3GS has a slight up front surcharge, the 16GB 3GS is free).
So pretty much exactly like on Windows then, if you want to draw your app with native widgets.
I guess they could do it with X (which is installed by default in 10.6 now, and optional on 10.5 and below). They are not obligated to use the cocoa framework, although it's obviously beneficial if they do - and they only really need it for the steam UI.
http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/OSX_Technology_Overview/GraphicsTechnologies/GraphicsTechnologies.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40001067-CH273-SW1
For the games themselves though, they can go right into OpenGL.
So the original assertion that "pretty much all" of the things Valves needs are "Apple-only and proprietary" is just nonsense.
"Have I seen HFS+ used anywhere" - on every Mac computer I own, since OS 9.
Nitro: rewritten, based on Squirrelfish, faster and more efficient. Better than them not doing anything eh? But an also ran? Webkit's penetration (including its JS engine) has been steadily increasing since its release, and not just in Apple projects. Either way, it's fully GPL so any code you like the look of you can take and put in your own JS engine of choice.
CUPS: they did not create it, but they hired the guy who did and have continued to put considerable development time and resources into it since that time.
Bonjour is one of *the* zeroconf implementations, with Apple-written protocols that are open and widely supported (namely multicasr DNS and DNS SD as opposed to Microsoft's method). Apple developed these and released them for use.
launchd has been a success on OS X, and is fully open source so any project is free to use it if they wish. Hey, what upstart and init could do is use some of the source code from launchd if they found a little bit that they particularly liked. Wouldn't that be something? Isn't open source amazing.
I'm not sure how Darwin, a fully POSIX compliant certified Unix can be a "trinket", especially as it is the core of a major commercial Unix OS, but each to their own.
The overall point being, while many people want to paint Apple as some easy-to-define "evil" company, they have contributed an enormous amount to open source projects, they run many of their own, and they do far more (ie, releasing code and projects etc) than they are legally obligated to do so by the licences they use.
The argument that rises from Webkit is that they had no choice but to release their changes since it is all GPL, which is true, but they have rolled things into the project that didn't have to be GPL. They use a lot of BSD-covered code, which has no requirement for source code release, but they do it anyway - they are well aware that it is a mutually beneficial relationship.
They've made some decisions that are stupid (as any company does), that I don;t agree with, but they are not some Machiavellian character out to do evil at every turn. Their OS business model is Open Source with Closed Source on top, and they have been very successful with it, and the OSS community at large has also had great benefits.
My iPhone was free on my contract, I got it nearly 2 years ago. My Aunt's new 3GS was free on her contract - she got it this week.
My sister's iPhone was free on her contract, so was my brother's.
Sorry, you and I have a different experience about "what Apple can never do".
Probably not, unless it's in very small quantities. Atmospheric concentration is pretty low, and either way, at 1 bar it doesn't freeze until about -78C. I don't think there are any natural places on Earth that cold.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carbon_dioxide_pressure-temperature_phase_diagram.svg
That suggests you are going to need some serious pressure before you can solidify it at Earth-natural temperature ranges.
In the science of cold, solid CO2 has had the colloquial name of dry ice for as long as I can remember. Saying "CO2 ice" gets the meaning across perfectly that you mean solid CO2.
In this context, it forms in the same way as water ice does here in winter conditions, it's just a different molecule.
Oh it's not a problem per se, the very nature of humanity is that we are not all totally homogenous.
It only becomes an issue when the majority attempt to squash and destroy the minority, or paint that minority as clueless/idiotic/retarded/fanboi/sheeple/etc.
This is not just an Apple condition - it is the case for several things on here, depending on context - Google, for example, seems to be loved for Android or hated like some giant big brother stealing your privacy, depending on what day it is.
I probably shouldn't have generalised - I own a 3G, and I know there are many slashdot folk who do like the iPhone, just as there are some who like Microsoft, but more and more it seems like liking Apple is going against the majority.
They were close with the Apple TV - it is underpowered. You can do some great things with it, the broadcom HD card and a copy of XBMC.
The machine just needs a little more beef to be a really good HTPC.
How is the parent a troll post?
-1 Troll is not a synonym for "I disagree".
[citation needed]
Can you show me some examples of past "made up benchmarks" that make you expect them?
Lab benchmarks are pretty staple for the tech industry - they are not unique to Apple, and all are conducted with benching suites that often don't reflect real-world use. The same sort of people who take them as gospel are the same sorts of people who look at the benchmarks for the latest GPUs being tested at tomshardware.com.
My iPhone has tethering (no jailbreak), and I have a choice of carriers (no jailbreak), a cheap data plan (unlimited 3G and edge included in my plan, which is cost equivalent to the blackberry/HTC/WinMob handset plans), lets me put apps and icons on my home screen how I want (although not with widgets - that is a very cool feature of Droid that I wish he iPhone had), and my phone also works on Windows, Mac and Linux (jailbreak required for sync on Ubuntu though if I want it).
It's really not all that different.
I wish I could get those Android widgets on the iPhone. Those and Google's turn by turn app (the Tom Tom/Garmin/etc apps on iPhone are nice but expensive) are making me look at Droid as my potential next phone, and my contract is up in July. Let's compare on actual differences. Of your list, the ability to multitask with third party apps, and the ability to use Flash and the screen res were the only things that set your handset apart - the others being the same or totally subjective.
It seems like Apple, while offering some things that may appeal to the slashdot crowd (OS X), and some things that don't (iPhone) but slashdot seems compelled to discuss them to death anyway.
I liken it to a Ford enthusiast's forum which continues to have articles about GM submitted to the feed by its members, only for those same members to talk about how they don't want to hear about GM any more.
Or a heavy metal forum that seems obsessed with talking about indie music, and moaning bitterly about how indie music doesn't appeal to them and is nothing like metal, but who won;t stop talking about it.
And I agree, you expect heavy trolling in the comments (when in the tech world are you going to find a universally liked company), but the editorial trolling is just lame.
I'm using Virgin in the UK right now, and that is no longer the case. They will troubleshoot and support a router-based connection - the cable box outputs bog standard ethernet, and they don't care what you have it hooked up to.
Yeah, I blame my parents for sending me to Catholic school - I asked them to instead send me to Neverland. At least afterwards I'd get to go on the fun fair.
Read the other post where I addressed intelligence - where does it say that you need to be intelligent to find it funny? I said it may not be aimed at him, ie subjective humour, as he doesn't find *any* of them funny - thus, clearly not his style of humour.
Also, interactions with women? Is that what heterosexual people do? Or are you inferring that people who like xkcd are inherently virgins regardless of sexuality?
They also endorse fucking kids, so it's swings and roundabouts.
They stated from the very beginning they wanted DRM-free, but the content providers would not go for it. It was not their choice, but it was the only way to get the content in the first place and open up the music industry to even consider selling music on the net in the first place (regardless of other online services).
Do you remember "Rip, Mix. Burn"? Do you remember the trivial method of defeating the DRM, that Apple strongly encouraged you to use (from within iTunes itself) whenever you downloaded a song? They never wanted it, and did the minimum required to implement a deliberately trivial scheme that could be broken from within the iTunes app itself!
I also offered only one example, so the sarcasm really isn't warranted. Well, perhaps it is but it is misplaced. Other examples would be using H.264 for iTunes video content (still not DRM free yet due to movie/tv studios, but being worked on), original choice in iTunes to rip your CDs as either AAC or mp3 (compared to Windows media player using .wma), settling on an open, documented XML format for their office apps (iWork, etc) rather than something closed like .doc or .docx), use of .mbox format for their Mail application, rather than a closed MS-only format as used in Outlook/OLE...
Any more examples?
Why exactly? Apple's previous track record with content is not only getting the music industry to agree to sell content on the internet, but to (eventually) do it without DRM. Even if they weren't the very first to offer it, they made it a profitable and viable model that broke the industry's mindset that was firmly "why would people pay when they can just get it off a p2p service".
In their history they tend to go for (if patented) at least open codecs and formats (with the exception of Sorenson in Quicktime, but it didn't last long).
I wouldn't agree with that, just because I don;t agree with your trolling assessment that BSD wouldn't want any code contribution from Apple.
You want logic?
Code contribution from Apple ---\
Code contribution from others -----> OR GATE > ---- broader, more flexible code base overall to choose from.