This is badly flawed logic. Prohibition was another thing entirely, as was the 'war on drugs'. The actions of a few spammers have nothing to do with the situations cited. The spammers are scum bags and will be eventually eliminated due to the fact that they cause more harm to society than they deliver value.
Remember what you are talking about here. Spam. It isn't people conducting their own affairs in their own house. It's someone shitting all over everyone else annoying mails about porn and penis enlargement.
Denying the need for government like that makes you an anarchist, by the way. Not a libertarian.
So if a non-techie says he is willing to learn, he correctly evaluates the economic reasons that spam continues, he suggests something quite sensible about graphical email addresses on web sites, and asks for further technical input... then why not give him the benefit of your technical knowledge? Or on the other hand, if you have no ideas of your own, you could just insult him.
He writes an article shunting the blame for the spam issue off on the user. He's an asshole. This kind of statement should only be made _after_ we have the appropriate legal framework in place. But no, the rest of us are fighting to get laws in place to get rid of this shit, and this idiot is fighting against that because he's a wack job libertarian.
It's a public policy issue. There are a subculture of people preying on society. There is a job for the lawmaker here. Letting this message get out just damages the chances of something useful being done.
Actually, I do. But my personal action has no effect on this problem in particular. The system is only as effective as its weakest link, and since that body includes QVC obsessed housewives and American football fans, I don't think there is much hope.
I pick on these demographic segements because they will buy almost anything.
Take personal responsibility. Yeah, right. I don't get any spam. I filter it all out. Does that matter? NO! I'm one person and part of a very thin sliver of the total net population. I actually know what I am doing. The other 95-98% of the people out there do not, and will not. They have trouble getting Outlook Express working and you are going to talk about 'user responsibility'? What a clueless asshole.
Any article with the word 'schlong' in it is suspect, in any event.
All Novell did was what PC vendors have always done: take successful ideas out of the non-PC world and repackage them, poorly.
This is flamebait bullshit. You obviously never worked with Novell. Novell was a well integrated and easy to deploy network solution with excellent performance. It was a cut above any of your 'innovators' products.
Novell did certain things in 1989 better than Microsoft or Linux can replicate today.
Thanks for pointing out the bleeding obvious. I mean, if I had thought about it more, i'd realize that there are three sources of funding:
Government - therefore you have to whore yourself to politicans
Philanthropists, whether independent or organized as foundations
Corporate entities
Obviously the corporations have more money so that's where most of the funding comes from. The effects of this corporate funding expose a fundamental flaw in the capitalist system. The issues with government funding are also a similar issue, as you noted.
I'm a conservative too and this is painfully obvious to me. The only answer I don't have, is how to make the system work without this flaw.
Yeah that was the last sign of him - that was back in 2001 I think. I contacted the company and they claim he isn't working there anymore, no forwarding or reference.
His name was Alan. He was a decent guy. Alan and me got to know each other when I needed to fill some spots on a desktop support help desk at 35k a year (this being back in 1995-97 when it was hard, but possible to find such people). He sent over a boatload of fine people - I hired about 6 people off of him.
Anyway, since he was so good, I gave him my resume and let him shop me around the next time I was looking. He landed me in 3 jobs in a row. Then, I have to admit, I fucked up. I was in the middle of a divorce, and I was being slack. The company fired me because of a performance issue (my fault - I was taking too much time up, showing up late, that kind of thing).
After that, he didn't have any time to spend on me. I suspect (this was mid-2000) that he was having performance issues of his own - the.com bubble had burst in Silicon Alley and placements were really dry.
I haven't been able to get a hold of him in a long time. I suspect he is out of the business, he doesn't work for the old agency he used to. If anyone knows of an Alan Chase in the NYC area, send me an ICQ or mail, though, he was a great guy and i'd love to work with him again. Divorce is over, things are cool again.
There's probably little doubt that NASA's processes suck, these guys should have listened to Rocha (especially - what is it they say about hindsight again?), but this thing was more complicated than "a bunch of stupid-A$$ managers"...
The moment they slapped them down the third or fourth time trying to get imagery is the moment they forfeited their jobs. (and if I had my way, they would have forfeited their pensions too)
They didn't cover their ass like they should have. What's the point of having a bureaucracy if it is not going to work in predictable ways?
It IS as simple as a bunch of stupid ass managers.
Massachusetts, the lone holdout state still suing Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) for antitrust violations, will become the first state to adopt a broad-based strategy of moving its computer systems toward open standards, including Linux, the rival operating system to Microsoft's Windows.
State Administration and Finance Secretary Eric Kriss said Thursday that the decision, adopted at a meeting of state information officers, was made on "technical grounds" and had nothing to do with Attorney General Thomas Reilly's pursuit of Microsoft.
I have come to the conclusion that this sounds good, but is ultimately worthless. I see more initiatives come down the pike in government that are totally bullshit. There is no motivation behind them, and I suspect there is no motivation behind this one. They probably were back to buying Microsoft CALs when they finished with the teleconference.
I'll pay attention when they say "we will not authorize funds to buy proprietary products". Put your money where your mouth is.
Engineers make recommendations. Managers disregard them. Things like impressing VPs, etc are way more important to get ahead in an organisation unfortunately.
That's bullshit. I manage people. I impress my management by getting the job done in a better time frame than they expected and at minimum cost.
When we have safety/security concerns it's my job to make sure they are brought front and center and made clear to my management before they are a problem, not after.
I'm not perfect, sometimes they have to tell me 2 or 3 times about something before I can get it fixed, because of bureaucratic inertia or my false perceptions of the relative importance of the problem. In this case, however, even I would know that it's dead serious and needed to be dealt with.
These managers just plain sucked and deserve to be canned. And yes, I work in the federal government.
@stake has demonstrated that nothing, absolutely nothing, will get in the way of satisfying their clients. While this is admirable from a capitalist viewpoint, how much do you trust any information that they disseminate?
Thought so.
Tarring yourself as a Microsoft shill might be good for the bottom line but I doubt @stake's long term viability was helped by this move. Particularly since the point that Mr. Geer was making is patently obvious to anyone with a clue.
I'm sure going to tune out anything they say in the future.
I have a better one. When you think of the Dewey Decimal System, do you think of OCLC? If not, is it a valid trademark?
Something for the lawyers on the hotel's side to think on.
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has no commonality of experience?
I mean, at least in the US experience, civil war was precipitated by sectional division in the Congress, more than anything else. When one side got a majority through population growth, the other side pulled out of the government and there was a war.
My point is basically "What does a Greek or a Dane have in common with a Spaniard that would cause them to coexist in a government that votes against their interests in the majority of cases?" I mean, it's going to happen eventually that some nation will be pissed off at what the European Parliament does.
I look at how other multiethnic/racial nation-states have welded themselves together. The US, for all the immigration, has remained a primarily white European Protestant nation. The Russian Empire and the Soviets after them tended to send Great Russians to live in the republics, so as to solidify control by having a large minority of ethnic Russians in any particular Central Asian locale. The Chinese do about the same in their Central Asian lands, or they use troops. So how is the EU going to do it? Is it a loose confederation? Or will there be a war the day a country decides they'd rather go it alone? I've read a few books on the topic of the EU and they all talk about it like it's going to last forever.
Or not. I've yet to see a single poll suggesting the Patriot Act is a signifigant factor in anyones decision making process about whom to vote for.
How about me? I'm the usual Republican cheerleader in a democrat family - my stepfather held office as a Dem once. Yet, I manage to pull my sister, mother, ex-wife, etc etc onto the R side of the ticket nearly every election with my impassioned attack on the misguided policies of the Democrats.
Note I am not doing that next year. So the bunch of them will either not vote, or vote Democrat most likely.
Barr was/is considered a weirdo to most of the Republican party. He isn't part of the ruling wing. His help is about equivalent to getting McCain's help - not much.
The Republicans have a central elite groupthink that would make the Democrats blush. In unity there is power, they believe. This is true, but in unity also lies stodgy responses to external stimuli. In a year or so the Republicans will wake up in general and realize that this whole Ashcroft scenario is costing them big time.
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This is badly flawed logic. Prohibition was another thing entirely, as was the 'war on drugs'. The actions of a few spammers have nothing to do with the situations cited. The spammers are scum bags and will be eventually eliminated due to the fact that they cause more harm to society than they deliver value.
Talk about setting up a straw man.
Remember what you are talking about here. Spam. It isn't people conducting their own affairs in their own house. It's someone shitting all over everyone else annoying mails about porn and penis enlargement.
Denying the need for government like that makes you an anarchist, by the way. Not a libertarian.
So if a non-techie says he is willing to learn, he correctly evaluates the economic reasons that spam continues, he suggests something quite sensible about graphical email addresses on web sites, and asks for further technical input... then why not give him the benefit of your technical knowledge? Or on the other hand, if you have no ideas of your own, you could just insult him.
He writes an article shunting the blame for the spam issue off on the user. He's an asshole. This kind of statement should only be made _after_ we have the appropriate legal framework in place. But no, the rest of us are fighting to get laws in place to get rid of this shit, and this idiot is fighting against that because he's a wack job libertarian.
It's a public policy issue. There are a subculture of people preying on society. There is a job for the lawmaker here. Letting this message get out just damages the chances of something useful being done.
Don't vote either, eh?
Actually, I do. But my personal action has no effect on this problem in particular. The system is only as effective as its weakest link, and since that body includes QVC obsessed housewives and American football fans, I don't think there is much hope.
I pick on these demographic segements because they will buy almost anything.
Take personal responsibility. Yeah, right. I don't get any spam. I filter it all out. Does that matter? NO! I'm one person and part of a very thin sliver of the total net population. I actually know what I am doing. The other 95-98% of the people out there do not, and will not. They have trouble getting Outlook Express working and you are going to talk about 'user responsibility'? What a clueless asshole.
Any article with the word 'schlong' in it is suspect, in any event.
All Novell did was what PC vendors have always done: take successful ideas out of the non-PC world and repackage them, poorly.
This is flamebait bullshit. You obviously never worked with Novell. Novell was a well integrated and easy to deploy network solution with excellent performance. It was a cut above any of your 'innovators' products.
Novell did certain things in 1989 better than Microsoft or Linux can replicate today.
Thanks for pointing out the bleeding obvious. I mean, if I had thought about it more, i'd realize that there are three sources of funding:
Obviously the corporations have more money so that's where most of the funding comes from. The effects of this corporate funding expose a fundamental flaw in the capitalist system. The issues with government funding are also a similar issue, as you noted.
I'm a conservative too and this is painfully obvious to me. The only answer I don't have, is how to make the system work without this flaw.
I don't envy your job.
This one is going to pass just like every other Microsoft injustice.
I'm ashamed of our academics, as cited in the article. He apparently went to get 9 to sign onto that paper and all declined because of funding issues.
What's the point of tenured academics if they are going to be afraid of losing corporate grants and therefore are squelched?
Yet another reason I hate academia, besides that one class...
Yeah that was the last sign of him - that was back in 2001 I think. I contacted the company and they claim he isn't working there anymore, no forwarding or reference.
Thanks for looking though.
It isn't a joke, at least on my part.
His name was Alan. He was a decent guy. Alan and me got to know each other when I needed to fill some spots on a desktop support help desk at 35k a year (this being back in 1995-97 when it was hard, but possible to find such people). He sent over a boatload of fine people - I hired about 6 people off of him.
.com bubble had burst in Silicon Alley and placements were really dry.
Anyway, since he was so good, I gave him my resume and let him shop me around the next time I was looking. He landed me in 3 jobs in a row. Then, I have to admit, I fucked up. I was in the middle of a divorce, and I was being slack. The company fired me because of a performance issue (my fault - I was taking too much time up, showing up late, that kind of thing).
After that, he didn't have any time to spend on me. I suspect (this was mid-2000) that he was having performance issues of his own - the
I haven't been able to get a hold of him in a long time. I suspect he is out of the business, he doesn't work for the old agency he used to. If anyone knows of an Alan Chase in the NYC area, send me an ICQ or mail, though, he was a great guy and i'd love to work with him again. Divorce is over, things are cool again.
I have a hard time calling anything in the government 'quick'.
There's probably little doubt that NASA's processes suck, these guys should have listened to Rocha (especially - what is it they say about hindsight again?), but this thing was more complicated than "a bunch of stupid-A$$ managers"...
The moment they slapped them down the third or fourth time trying to get imagery is the moment they forfeited their jobs. (and if I had my way, they would have forfeited their pensions too)
They didn't cover their ass like they should have. What's the point of having a bureaucracy if it is not going to work in predictable ways?
It IS as simple as a bunch of stupid ass managers.
Massachusetts, the lone holdout state still suing Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) for antitrust violations, will become the first state to adopt a broad-based strategy of moving its computer systems toward open standards, including Linux, the rival operating system to Microsoft's Windows.
State Administration and Finance Secretary Eric Kriss said Thursday that the decision, adopted at a meeting of state information officers, was made on "technical grounds" and had nothing to do with Attorney General Thomas Reilly's pursuit of Microsoft.
I have come to the conclusion that this sounds good, but is ultimately worthless. I see more initiatives come down the pike in government that are totally bullshit. There is no motivation behind them, and I suspect there is no motivation behind this one. They probably were back to buying Microsoft CALs when they finished with the teleconference.
I'll pay attention when they say "we will not authorize funds to buy proprietary products". Put your money where your mouth is.
Engineers make recommendations. Managers disregard them. Things like impressing VPs, etc are way more important to get ahead in an organisation unfortunately.
That's bullshit. I manage people. I impress my management by getting the job done in a better time frame than they expected and at minimum cost.
When we have safety/security concerns it's my job to make sure they are brought front and center and made clear to my management before they are a problem, not after.
I'm not perfect, sometimes they have to tell me 2 or 3 times about something before I can get it fixed, because of bureaucratic inertia or my false perceptions of the relative importance of the problem. In this case, however, even I would know that it's dead serious and needed to be dealt with.
These managers just plain sucked and deserve to be canned. And yes, I work in the federal government.
@stake has demonstrated that nothing, absolutely nothing, will get in the way of satisfying their clients. While this is admirable from a capitalist viewpoint, how much do you trust any information that they disseminate?
Thought so.
Tarring yourself as a Microsoft shill might be good for the bottom line but I doubt @stake's long term viability was helped by this move. Particularly since the point that Mr. Geer was making is patently obvious to anyone with a clue.
I'm sure going to tune out anything they say in the future.
I have a better one. When you think of the Dewey Decimal System, do you think of OCLC? If not, is it a valid trademark?
Something for the lawyers on the hotel's side to think on.
has no commonality of experience?
I mean, at least in the US experience, civil war was precipitated by sectional division in the Congress, more than anything else. When one side got a majority through population growth, the other side pulled out of the government and there was a war.
My point is basically "What does a Greek or a Dane have in common with a Spaniard that would cause them to coexist in a government that votes against their interests in the majority of cases?" I mean, it's going to happen eventually that some nation will be pissed off at what the European Parliament does.
I look at how other multiethnic/racial nation-states have welded themselves together. The US, for all the immigration, has remained a primarily white European Protestant nation. The Russian Empire and the Soviets after them tended to send Great Russians to live in the republics, so as to solidify control by having a large minority of ethnic Russians in any particular Central Asian locale. The Chinese do about the same in their Central Asian lands, or they use troops. So how is the EU going to do it? Is it a loose confederation? Or will there be a war the day a country decides they'd rather go it alone? I've read a few books on the topic of the EU and they all talk about it like it's going to last forever.
Or not. I've yet to see a single poll suggesting the Patriot Act is a signifigant factor in anyones decision making process about whom to vote for.
How about me? I'm the usual Republican cheerleader in a democrat family - my stepfather held office as a Dem once. Yet, I manage to pull my sister, mother, ex-wife, etc etc onto the R side of the ticket nearly every election with my impassioned attack on the misguided policies of the Democrats.
Note I am not doing that next year. So the bunch of them will either not vote, or vote Democrat most likely.
Retiring after this term, he doesn't give a shit about legacy either.
Taking advantage of lame-duckism.
Barr was/is considered a weirdo to most of the Republican party. He isn't part of the ruling wing. His help is about equivalent to getting McCain's help - not much.
The Republicans have a central elite groupthink that would make the Democrats blush. In unity there is power, they believe. This is true, but in unity also lies stodgy responses to external stimuli. In a year or so the Republicans will wake up in general and realize that this whole Ashcroft scenario is costing them big time.
Probably on 11/05/04.
rocking dude!
100% totally agreed with the parent.
I have mine hooked up to a switch box and use it even for a Macintosh. (heh)
The clickety-clack is very soothing too.
Get some puny dictator who poses no threat to the US or do something so great that it'd be remembered forever so long as humans draw breath...
If it were either or, it would be a no brainer. Just try to get $80+ billion out of Congress for a space adventure in a single fiscal year.
Yep, exactly. No dice. Scare the bejeezus out of the general public with visions of Vietnam, and they'll throw money at you hand over fist.
0.74 E for the free client, Trillian Pro has an update too.
Right here.
See, not so bad right? I'm sure the Gaim people will have it fixed shortly too.