Well lets see now, programming metaphors for the modern age?
Theres oil-oriented programming (everything is a pipeline), terror-oriented programming (everything is a suicide bomber) and dollar-oriented programming (everything has a mandatory dollar sign at the beginning), to name but a few.
"Did you ever find that there were things the Muslim kids said or did that offended you?"
Actually, apart from when they saw their religion as being offended, they were always polite and considerate. *Very* polite.
But Muslims, on the whole, seem to take their religion a LOT more seriously than *any* Christian I ever met. Outside of Jehovas Witnesses or 7th day adventists or Plymouth Brethren. But thats how extremely a Christian would have to view their faith to take it as seriously as the moderate, westernised Muslims I've known.
Not saying 'all Muslims are extremists', just pointing out the issue of 'taking it seriously'.
In the context of the Western world, laughing at matters of religion is totally normal. In the Muslim world it seems, today, to be absolutely forbidden.
Sad really. Google for "Mulla Nasrudin".
One of my favorites is when the Mulla advises a man on his deathbed to "say 'God help me. Devil help me.' You can never be too sure!"
"There is no Iron Wall, but even though there are millions of Muslims in the developed world, there's this enormous communications gap."
This is so true.
Even everyday stuff can be totally different for even a 'westernised' Muslim compared with a, er, non-Muslim westerner.
Take the phrase 'Son of a bitch!' for example. As a kid growing up in London in the 70's I quickly learned that you never say this to one of your Muslim schoolmates unless you are prepared for either a major fight or a debasing apology.
Lots of things (like dogs for example) are embued with special significance that totally goes over the heads of someone who isn't enculturated.
I take your point, but to an outsider it often seems that violently militant Islamists are *obviously* in contravention of basic Islamic principles.
For example, isn't there a very specific injunction against the use of fire as a weapon? That would seem to rule out suicide bombings, all kinds of bombings come to think about it and obviously nuclear weapons are right out.
"They were the ones that hired Gurkha bodyguards. I don't need to say anything else, I think."
You mean they didn't have any 'problems' with Darl McBride of the 'Santa Cruz Operation' and they didn't experience any unfortunate and unforseen 'suicides'?
And as the virus spreads, every steadycam in the world is disabled...
The resulting nausea of TV and movie watchers (no longer restricted only to those watching BSG or 'Blair Witch Project') brings the civilised world to a standstill.
If I find a bunch of rocks and I come up with a theory that they formed part of a building, that theres evidence of intelligent design, can that theory be falsified?
You can look for tool-marks on the rocks, where did they come from, are they from here or would they have to have been transported here. Etc.
Perhaps there are genetic engineering 'tool-marks' that may be identifiable. If that were possible, would it be wrong to look for them?
What if you found things in the human genome that couldn't be explained by natural processes. Is that even possible? Is it wrong to ask?
"Intelligent Design" may be a quasi-religious political agenda, but "intelligent design" is surely a valid question.
"to restrict that would take away that freedom, and would mean that [particularly anal] GNU/Linux distributions such as Debian could no longer redistribute it"
That would be totally hilarious. IMO debian is way too on the 'politically correct' side. As someone once said 'I want an OS not a religion'.
"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor."
I don't think that a specific company counts as a 'specific *field* of endeavor'.
"The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons."
And I don't think that this would count either since SCO is a corporation. Its not saying that SCO employees cannot use it themselves, just that the corporation cannot distribute it.
A corporation may be a legal person but it is not an actual person and it is not really a 'group of persons' either... its a 'legal person'.
Still, I'd love to see Debian unable to distribute samba. That would get a lot of laughs.
Of course those aerial bombardments might happen to cause the death of a some nightshift cleaning lady but the civilised "west" would naturally deem that acceptable collateral damage...
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"Supposedly, that's how the indians even knew the earth was spherical, for a time, they could see its reflection in the oceans of Mars"
The 'feats' of our ancestors always seem to astound modern man, sometimes even to the point where aliens are invoked to explain it (eg the great pyramid).
In this case, it is in fact extremely easy not only to determine that the Earth is spherical but to get a fair approximation of things like the dimensions of the Earth or the distance from the Sun.
You need only a piece of stick (techical term: 'gnomon'), a journey of several hundred miles and some basic geometry.
All well within the capabilities of ourselves today, let alone our ancestors of several thousand years ago.
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Its dollar-oriented programming. Dollars *everywhere*!
$w$0$0$t$!
"You mean PHP? :)"
No, I was thinking, dollar signs at the beginning of every variable, constant, function, curly brace, semi-colon and so forth.
Well lets see now, programming metaphors for the modern age?
Theres oil-oriented programming (everything is a pipeline), terror-oriented programming (everything is a suicide bomber) and dollar-oriented programming (everything has a mandatory dollar sign at the beginning), to name but a few.
I mean, look at the name!
"Sid Karin"? Who is this guy kidding? Thats *obviously* an acronym of "Kid Sarin" and as we all know, sarin is a nerve gas!
Terrorist!
"Did you ever find that there were things the Muslim kids said or did that offended you?"
Actually, apart from when they saw their religion as being offended, they were always polite and considerate. *Very* polite.
But Muslims, on the whole, seem to take their religion a LOT more seriously than *any* Christian I ever met. Outside of Jehovas Witnesses or 7th day adventists or Plymouth Brethren. But thats how extremely a Christian would have to view their faith to take it as seriously as the moderate, westernised Muslims I've known.
Not saying 'all Muslims are extremists', just pointing out the issue of 'taking it seriously'.
In the context of the Western world, laughing at matters of religion is totally normal. In the Muslim world it seems, today, to be absolutely forbidden.
Sad really. Google for "Mulla Nasrudin".
One of my favorites is when the Mulla advises a man on his deathbed to "say 'God help me. Devil help me.' You can never be too sure!"
"There is no Iron Wall, but even though there are millions of Muslims in the developed world, there's this enormous communications gap."
This is so true.
Even everyday stuff can be totally different for even a 'westernised' Muslim compared with a, er, non-Muslim westerner.
Take the phrase 'Son of a bitch!' for example. As a kid growing up in London in the 70's I quickly learned that you never say this to one of your Muslim schoolmates unless you are prepared for either a major fight or a debasing apology.
Lots of things (like dogs for example) are embued with special significance that totally goes over the heads of someone who isn't enculturated.
I take your point, but to an outsider it often seems that violently militant Islamists are *obviously* in contravention of basic Islamic principles.
For example, isn't there a very specific injunction against the use of fire as a weapon? That would seem to rule out suicide bombings, all kinds of bombings come to think about it and obviously nuclear weapons are right out.
"Yes, See SLIMES (subsurface lithoautrophic microbial ecosystems) that exist deep in the earth"
ooh! ooh! I feel a pedant moment coming on!
It says "Life *on* Earth" not "Life *in* Earth"
"They were the ones that hired Gurkha bodyguards. I don't need to say anything else, I think."
You mean they didn't have any 'problems' with Darl McBride of the 'Santa Cruz Operation' and they didn't experience any unfortunate and unforseen 'suicides'?
"Cylon viruses?"
And as the virus spreads, every steadycam in the world is disabled...
The resulting nausea of TV and movie watchers (no longer restricted only to those watching BSG or 'Blair Witch Project') brings the civilised world to a standstill.
"It's so nice to have market-loving, freedom-creating, innovation-pushing Republicans in power.'"
Adds a whole new dimension to 'The Land of the Free' and 'Information wants to be free' doesn't it!
This is a great /. article!
I get to spot people with disgusting attitudes like this and mark them 'foe'!
Thanks for standing out in the crowd!
Most of the people who died as a result of being nuked by 'The Americans' were not 'The Japanese' who commited the atrocities.
Grow up.
Ok, so Scottie started a fight with the Klingons when they referred to the Enterprise as 'a garbage scow'.
But now the term honestly applies to the Space Shuttle.
If this stress thing applies to people too... how are they going to have any IT staff on Mars?
I thought it was supposed to be a 'war on fear' actually. You know, blow up anything you are afraid of... seems to be what they are doing!
From what I can see, as a non-American, the Democrats and Republicans form a 'good cop, bad cop' team and are essentially on the same side.
So, exactly where does archeology fit into this?
Is it a science?
If I find a bunch of rocks and I come up with a theory that they formed part of a building, that theres evidence of intelligent design, can that theory be falsified?
You can look for tool-marks on the rocks, where did they come from, are they from here or would they have to have been transported here. Etc.
Perhaps there are genetic engineering 'tool-marks' that may be identifiable. If that were possible, would it be wrong to look for them?
What if you found things in the human genome that couldn't be explained by natural processes. Is that even possible? Is it wrong to ask?
"Intelligent Design" may be a quasi-religious political agenda, but "intelligent design" is surely a valid question.
"They mean free as in beer, not free as in freedom."
And what you get for free is domination as in 'free-dom'.
"Word games."
Well *duh*
Thats what legalism *is*.
At least apollo had a launch-time escape mechanism in the form of rockets on top of the capsule that could get it clear in case of accident.
Shuttle is a death trap.
Pay a million dollars for a ride on the shuttle?
You couldn't get me on that thing *for* a million dollars!
Soyuz or apollo, yeah I'd pay! Or be payed.
At least they offer more survivable failure scenarios than the shuttle!
Lets see now how many survivable failure scenarios does the shuttle have?
Well theres not launching at all because you detect a fault while still on the ground. Phew that was close.
Then, assuming you survived launch, theres detecting a fault while in orbit and hooking up with the ISS and oh lets see now, you ride a soyuz down.
"to restrict that would take away that freedom, and would mean that [particularly anal] GNU/Linux distributions such as Debian could no longer redistribute it"
:)
That would be totally hilarious. IMO debian is way too on the 'politically correct' side. As someone once said 'I want an OS not a religion'.
"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor."
I don't think that a specific company counts as a 'specific *field* of endeavor'.
"The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons."
And I don't think that this would count either since SCO is a corporation. Its not saying that SCO employees cannot use it themselves, just that the corporation cannot distribute it.
A corporation may be a legal person but it is not an actual person and it is not really a 'group of persons' either... its a 'legal person'.
Still, I'd love to see Debian unable to distribute samba. That would get a lot of laughs.
"No, the real money is in OEM licensing to large volume hardware manufacturers."
Funny that, isn't it.
Like the old salesman's adage: 'Sell to the classes, live with the masses. Sell to the masses, live with the classes'.
Of course those aerial bombardments might happen to cause the death of a some nightshift cleaning lady but the civilised "west" would naturally deem that acceptable collateral damage...
"Supposedly, that's how the indians even knew the earth was spherical, for a time, they could see its reflection in the oceans of Mars"
The 'feats' of our ancestors always seem to astound modern man, sometimes even to the point where aliens are invoked to explain it (eg the great pyramid).
In this case, it is in fact extremely easy not only to determine that the Earth is spherical but to get a fair approximation of things like the dimensions of the Earth or the distance from the Sun.
You need only a piece of stick (techical term: 'gnomon'), a journey of several hundred miles and some basic geometry.
All well within the capabilities of ourselves today, let alone our ancestors of several thousand years ago.
"but when they consider people who are basically techs and tradsemen as engineers"
And don't even get me *started* on so-called software 'engineers'!