If Debian ships with foo 0.1 and there is a bug within it, if the bug was fixed upstream in foo 0.2, the patch for the bug will be backported by Debian maintainers into foo 0.1 and it will become foo 0.1-debian or something like that.
fuck an adware OS and use Debian, Ubuntu is just a ripoff copy of Debian anyhow,
either be a real linux user and run Slackware and learn to compile your own binaries for your system, or use Debian if you are too scared to compile
the rest of the debian ripoffs are pure shit
You aren't going to like this because, obviously, you drink the Debian kool-aid, but...
Debian isn't so hot especially for desktops because of their philosophy on 'stable' releases; if theres a bug, no matter how bad it is and its not a security problem, then it doesn't get fixed until the next stable release. That is just no good. I've been a Debian sysadmin for TEN years. I've seen this bite us in servers (eg with backup software (amanda and tar incompatibility)), with desktops its an even bigger problem. Webservers are also a problem because you might want to run recent versions of, eg, CMS software which might require a whole chain of tools to be built, deployed, maintained and kept up to date by yourselves (since Debian won't keep things up to date; they backport security fixes to the old versions).
Debian is great if you can live with old versions. And, when the next stable comes out, so long as you haven't fixed the problems using third party sources or self compiled stuff, then the apt-get dist-upgrade will usually work fine. But if you did take it on yourself to keep things up to date or fix bugs from upstream or third party sources then you will run into big problems.
If more Christians focused on acting like Christians they'd be setting an example that others would respect rather than becoming some imaginary force that is trying to control people's lives.
But which version of christianity? That preached by the original Jesus (and how do we really know what that was? For sure it was a sect of judaism)? The christianity warped after Jesus death, altered to make it more acceptable to heathens like the Greeks (removing the dietary restrictions, circumcision, basically making it not judaism)? The christianity of the dark ages? Modern Korean christianity? Evangelism? The list could go on and on...
religion gets in the brain and rots it away, early on.
Thats mainly monotheism. The problem with monotheism is that it requires its believers to cultivate a mental exclusivity; what we believe is right and everything else is wrong to the point of requiring eradication. It cannot tolerate questions or doubt. It discourages critical thinking and requires obedience first and foremost.
Lots of other things called 'religion' are nothing like this.
20,000 years after the invention of which space travel? In the prequel series people were using ftl but not 'instawarp' technology and had been using it for some unspecified amount of time. Maybe you are referring to the invention of the space-folding 'navigator' space travel?
For what I remember, that's not specified - I always guessed that it'll be around 21,969 AD. Navigators started after the discovery of Dune and the spice (before that people were warping randomly through the space), but I never had the stomach to face all the Brian Herbert books (to read the sequence to the traditional books was painful enough) and learn enough what happened before Dune.
Before the discovery of Dune and the spice there was a brief period where they were attempting to use the war drive and finding it too unpredictable to be of practical use. Before that they had a very reliable FTL drive which took many months to get anywhere useful.
As opposed to: "don't like a woman? If you rape her, you'll almost certainly get away with it, given the pathetic conviction rates in the US and UK".
Maybe its not 'pathetic conviction rates' but 'pathetic attempts to ruin mens lives by accusing them of rape and having the court see through the tissue of lies'
"Dune" is 20.000 years after the invention of space travel. The god emperor is around 4.000 yrars after that. Then the Chapterhose is around 1.500 years after the death of Leto II.
Am I the only one around here that read each god damn book at least ten times?
20,000 years after the invention of which space travel? In the prequel series people were using ftl but not 'instawarp' technology and had been using it for some unspecified amount of time. Maybe you are referring to the invention of the space-folding 'navigator' space travel?
Why? Is there seriously a need to come up with new methods other than good old fashioned fucking?
On another note...when asking "why"....is it like we have some type of population problems? Not enough people being born? Are we running short of pussies to hold new kids?
A few short years after 1984 the orgasm shall be eradicated. How else are we going to be able to produce new party members?
I'm not intimately familiar with the Dune novels, certainly not to the point of others here, but if I'm not mistaken, I think you're off on that figure by at least a power of ten...
Dune covers epic timespans. God Emperor alone covers a period of maybe 10,000 years of history. The prequel series (which I rate highly) is set a few more tens of thousands of years before Dune. I think Earth was a distant memory in the prequel series.
When you're using OpenVZ, the host should be considered to be a management system. Any actual production software should run in a container.
It was a great option at one time when a true hypervisor and VM carried a big performance penalty, but with modern hypervisors, especially when the host CPU has virtualization instructions the real thing makes a lot more sense.
Maybe you run nrpe (for monitoring) on the host and the guests? There are LOTS of things you might want to run on both host and guests.
OpenVZ is just a glorified chroot. It doesn't have a hypervisor.
We had one of these at my old work, running webservers for developers.
I discovered one day that some Debian scripts use killall to terminate their processes, can't recall if it was during uninstall or '/etc/init.d/script shutdown' but anyhow, what I found was that the process id's for all the processes running on the 'guests' are accessible on the host. I had to restart this process on all of the guests.
You can kill running processes in guests from the host; 'killall processname' on the host kills all instances of that process on all guests. This is pretty hilarious for a 'virtualisation' system, compared to the likes of Xen, Vmware, Virtualbox or Hyperv.
Like it says in the wikipedia article: "OpenVZ is not true virtualization but really containerization like FreeBSD Jails"
So I can roll out configurations to Windows 7 workstations, like get them to install software, set password policy, configure firewall settings etc all from a samba4 server?
Samba 4 *is* intended to be a full AD implementation. Currently it has a built in LDAP and Kerberos server set in the same daemon. That is a problem for some, like myself, that use Samba 3 + LDAP for shared auth. When complete is *should* be a fairly complete implementation of the AD specs, all of them. I have no idea how long this will take, or just how complete it is, but those are the design goals. All of this is a result of Microsoft releasing the full spec due to the European Union lawsuit.
I don't think I'm understanding this 'full AD implementation' thing.
Are you seeing Group Policy as being outside of a full AD implementation?
What I find fascinating is the propensity of supposedly intelligent people to judge the past using the morals of the present, without taking into account the prevailing culture of that period they are being so judgemental of.
Equally interesting and rather more worrying is the tendency to want to completely erase a person from history when it is discovered the person has a flaw.
And Gary Glitter is, today, a pedophile. Yet any of the girls I went to school with would have done anything to have sex with him; they'd have been throwing themselves at him. I think that at the time everyone expected that he was having sex with young girls and the shock would have been if it turned out he *wasn't*.
The term "friends" lost all its weight since the advent of Social media. I resist this trend, that basically imposes the fact that any whoever who adds you to their account (or you add to yours) is a "friend". I call bullshit.
I was once party to a conversation in which one of my workmates mentioned that a certain semi-famous actress and writer (Felicia Day) was a friend of theirs. One company director who was also involved in the conversation and a big fan of Felicia Day appeared very impressed. The nature of this 'friendship' very quickly became clear and I exclaimed "ohhhh you mean she's a name on a list on one of your social networking sites?" My workmate was not terribly happy. But it was hilarious.
I think it's fair to want people to resolve differences like reasonable adults.
Differences like a mall security wanting some kid to delete his photos, and the kid refusing/being unable to do so? That should have been resolved in a reasonable manner, but it wasn't.
If someone tells you to delete the photos, you ask them "have I committed a crime by taking these photos?" If they say "yes" then you tell them "So you are asking me to destroy evidence of a crime?" if they say "yes" to that then you tell them "so you are asking me to commit another crime." All done in a level, reasonable tone of voice.
If they say "no, you have not committed a crime by taking these photos." then you say "Then I am free to go. Thank you for your time." and walk away.
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If Debian ships with foo 0.1 and there is a bug within it, if the bug was fixed upstream in foo 0.2, the patch for the bug will be backported by Debian maintainers into foo 0.1 and it will become foo 0.1-debian or something like that.
Only if its security related.
who wants ubuntu anymore anyhow?
fuck an adware OS and use Debian, Ubuntu is just a ripoff copy of Debian anyhow,
either be a real linux user and run Slackware and learn to compile your own binaries for your system, or use Debian if you are too scared to compile
the rest of the debian ripoffs are pure shit
You aren't going to like this because, obviously, you drink the Debian kool-aid, but...
Debian isn't so hot especially for desktops because of their philosophy on 'stable' releases; if theres a bug, no matter how bad it is and its not a security problem, then it doesn't get fixed until the next stable release. That is just no good. I've been a Debian sysadmin for TEN years. I've seen this bite us in servers (eg with backup software (amanda and tar incompatibility)), with desktops its an even bigger problem. Webservers are also a problem because you might want to run recent versions of, eg, CMS software which might require a whole chain of tools to be built, deployed, maintained and kept up to date by yourselves (since Debian won't keep things up to date; they backport security fixes to the old versions).
Debian is great if you can live with old versions. And, when the next stable comes out, so long as you haven't fixed the problems using third party sources or self compiled stuff, then the apt-get dist-upgrade will usually work fine. But if you did take it on yourself to keep things up to date or fix bugs from upstream or third party sources then you will run into big problems.
Google make a lot of money from advertising.
I bet there will be a lot of demand from the fast food franchises to make their portions look smaller. They'd pay Google a fortune I'm sure.
Whatever. You wouldn't be a bleb if all you ate was lettuce.
also wouldn't be a bleb if all they ate was meat and animal fat.
If the 747 is flying at 1000 feet, probably, and you can almost certainly sue them for something.
its America. Of course you can sue them for *something*
Well, there's also the fact that a 747 isn't spying on you - or even potentially spying on you.
yeah but
THEY COULD BE RELEASING CLASSIFIED CHEMICALS INTO THE AIR!!!!!
The math of Obamacare for most businesses means less money will be lost if employees don't work more than 28 hours..
Wow so the US is on a sub 30 hour working week? Thats better than France!!! Those guys are on 35.
Cool. Good going guys!
If more Christians focused on acting like Christians they'd be setting an example that others would respect rather than becoming some imaginary force that is trying to control people's lives.
But which version of christianity? That preached by the original Jesus (and how do we really know what that was? For sure it was a sect of judaism)? The christianity warped after Jesus death, altered to make it more acceptable to heathens like the Greeks (removing the dietary restrictions, circumcision, basically making it not judaism)? The christianity of the dark ages? Modern Korean christianity? Evangelism? The list could go on and on...
religion gets in the brain and rots it away, early on.
Thats mainly monotheism. The problem with monotheism is that it requires its believers to cultivate a mental exclusivity; what we believe is right and everything else is wrong to the point of requiring eradication. It cannot tolerate questions or doubt. It discourages critical thinking and requires obedience first and foremost.
Lots of other things called 'religion' are nothing like this.
Nah. What better way to remove indigenous species to make it easier to colonize!?
Probably what happened to the dinosaurs...
20,000 years after the invention of which space travel? In the prequel series people were using ftl but not 'instawarp' technology and had been using it for some unspecified amount of time. Maybe you are referring to the invention of the space-folding 'navigator' space travel?
For what I remember, that's not specified - I always guessed that it'll be around 21,969 AD. Navigators started after the discovery of Dune and the spice (before that people were warping randomly through the space), but I never had the stomach to face all the Brian Herbert books (to read the sequence to the traditional books was painful enough) and learn enough what happened before Dune.
Before the discovery of Dune and the spice there was a brief period where they were attempting to use the war drive and finding it too unpredictable to be of practical use. Before that they had a very reliable FTL drive which took many months to get anywhere useful.
Look at how it turned out - he got off with it. If he'd been in the US, he would have been "disappeared" to Guantanamo Bay, and he'd still be there.
Foreigners go to Guantanamo. US citizens get sent to federal rape camps.
As opposed to: "don't like a woman? If you rape her, you'll almost certainly get away with it, given the pathetic conviction rates in the US and UK".
Maybe its not 'pathetic conviction rates' but 'pathetic attempts to ruin mens lives by accusing them of rape and having the court see through the tissue of lies'
Gosh.
"Dune" is 20.000 years after the invention of space travel. The god emperor is around 4.000 yrars after that. Then the Chapterhose is around 1.500 years after the death of Leto II.
Am I the only one around here that read each god damn book at least ten times?
20,000 years after the invention of which space travel? In the prequel series people were using ftl but not 'instawarp' technology and had been using it for some unspecified amount of time. Maybe you are referring to the invention of the space-folding 'navigator' space travel?
Artificial wombs....?
Why? Is there seriously a need to come up with new methods other than good old fashioned fucking?
On another note...when asking "why"....is it like we have some type of population problems? Not enough people being born? Are we running short of pussies to hold new kids?
A few short years after 1984 the orgasm shall be eradicated. How else are we going to be able to produce new party members?
And Dune was set 1000 years in the future.
I'm not intimately familiar with the Dune novels, certainly not to the point of others here, but if I'm not mistaken, I think you're off on that figure by at least a power of ten...
Dune covers epic timespans.
God Emperor alone covers a period of maybe 10,000 years of history.
The prequel series (which I rate highly) is set a few more tens of thousands of years before Dune.
I think Earth was a distant memory in the prequel series.
"with the airlines sandwiched between rising costs for fuel and unsteady demand from price-sensitive consumers"
I think consumers are sensitive to more than just price. The humiliating experience that flying has become in the USA could contribute.
When you're using OpenVZ, the host should be considered to be a management system. Any actual production software should run in a container.
It was a great option at one time when a true hypervisor and VM carried a big performance penalty, but with modern hypervisors, especially when the host CPU has virtualization instructions the real thing makes a lot more sense.
Maybe you run nrpe (for monitoring) on the host and the guests? There are LOTS of things you might want to run on both host and guests.
OpenVZ is just a glorified chroot. It doesn't have a hypervisor.
We had one of these at my old work, running webservers for developers.
I discovered one day that some Debian scripts use killall to terminate their processes, can't recall if it was during uninstall or '/etc/init.d/script shutdown' but anyhow, what I found was that the process id's for all the processes running on the 'guests' are accessible on the host. I had to restart this process on all of the guests.
You can kill running processes in guests from the host; 'killall processname' on the host kills all instances of that process on all guests.
This is pretty hilarious for a 'virtualisation' system, compared to the likes of Xen, Vmware, Virtualbox or Hyperv.
Like it says in the wikipedia article:
"OpenVZ is not true virtualization but really containerization like FreeBSD Jails"
GLORIFIED CHROOT.
"Or can Samba4 do Group Policy?"
It does.
So I can roll out configurations to Windows 7 workstations, like get them to install software, set password policy, configure firewall settings etc all from a samba4 server?
Samba 4 *is* intended to be a full AD implementation. Currently it has a built in LDAP and Kerberos server set in the same daemon. That is a problem
for some, like myself, that use Samba 3 + LDAP for shared auth. When complete is *should* be a fairly complete implementation of the AD specs, all
of them. I have no idea how long this will take, or just how complete it is, but those are the design goals. All of this is a result of Microsoft releasing the
full spec due to the European Union lawsuit.
I don't think I'm understanding this 'full AD implementation' thing.
Are you seeing Group Policy as being outside of a full AD implementation?
Or can Samba4 do Group Policy?
So are you voting Pepsi or Coke for this election?
I'd vote Dr Pepper but they don't have big corporate sponsors pouring bazillions of $$$ into their campaign so I'm not allowed to.
What I find fascinating is the propensity of supposedly intelligent people to judge the past using the morals of the present, without taking into account the prevailing culture of that period they are being so judgemental of.
Equally interesting and rather more worrying is the tendency to want to completely erase a person from history when it is discovered the person has a flaw.
And Gary Glitter is, today, a pedophile. Yet any of the girls I went to school with would have done anything to have sex with him; they'd have been throwing themselves at him. I think that at the time everyone expected that he was having sex with young girls and the shock would have been if it turned out he *wasn't*.
The past is a different country.
The term "friends" lost all its weight since the advent of Social media. I resist this trend, that basically imposes the fact that any whoever who adds you to their account (or you add to yours) is a "friend". I call bullshit.
I was once party to a conversation in which one of my workmates mentioned that a certain semi-famous actress and writer (Felicia Day) was a friend of theirs. One company director who was also involved in the conversation and a big fan of Felicia Day appeared very impressed. The nature of this 'friendship' very quickly became clear and I exclaimed "ohhhh you mean she's a name on a list on one of your social networking sites?" My workmate was not terribly happy. But it was hilarious.
I think it's fair to want people to resolve differences like reasonable adults.
Differences like a mall security wanting some kid to delete his photos, and the kid refusing/being unable to do so? That should have been resolved in a reasonable manner, but it wasn't.
If someone tells you to delete the photos, you ask them "have I committed a crime by taking these photos?" If they say "yes" then you tell them "So you are asking me to destroy evidence of a crime?" if they say "yes" to that then you tell them "so you are asking me to commit another crime." All done in a level, reasonable tone of voice.
If they say "no, you have not committed a crime by taking these photos." then you say "Then I am free to go. Thank you for your time." and walk away.
*reasonable manner*