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You make some good points about swearing, and dang it, if I get in trouble somewhere for it, that's on me. I know it is potentially offensive when I do it and so I take that risk.
The bad thing about the spam law is that it destroys a good local rule. Business in general are completely used to the fact that there is concurrent state and federal jurisdiction over many areas. Take for example the minimum wage law. It is higher in many states despite the existence of a federal minimum. Or workplace safety laws. If your MA company does business in WA, it will have to conform to WA minimum wage and WISHA regulations (both more stringent than fed. min. wage and OSHA).
Spam should be no different. I don't mind federal minimum standards to protect citizens of states where their legislature is too stupid or bought to make good spam law, my beef is with the destruction of a more stringent spam law by the federal legislation. By removing more stringent state laws, the federal law makes it easier for spammers to exist. The federal law is therefore a a bad law in its present form. Change it or kill, but don't pass it.
Not necessarily true at all. People will use what they are used to using.
Last night I booted into Windows (ME) for the first time in a long while to run a TRS-80 emulator. I was shocked at how slow and sluggish it was (not the emulator, everything else) - it was practically infuriating to run a web browser. And to double my frustration, I recently swapped in a new motherboard/video card. When I started Windows, I had to reboot six times and it crashed twice in identifying hardware. Then I had to DL a driver for my ethernet card - it was just a nightmare.
In contrast, in the first boot after the upgrade, Kudzu loaded, recognized and reconfigured all the new hardware in something less than two minutes. Anyway, point is, three or four years ago - I thought Windows was easy and efficient. Today, I see it as sluggish and annoying. The difference between then and now, is that I've gotten used to something else that works better.
So get those kids used a *nix, and they will not only use it outside of school, they are going to demand it.
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No - your MA business would be fine. You aren't subject to the law unless you know, or have reason to know that the address is linked to a WA resident. RCW 19.190.020 (and if you are business obscuring your email details - I have no pity). In order to make sure spammers have reason to know, WA residents can register their email addresses. And besides, nothing stops an inquiry to the ISP either. There is nothing you can say, or argue, that can cause me to be sympathetic to commercial email.
The worst part about spam is that I can't do what I do with paper spam - cross mailing junk mail (insert visa offer into mastercard offer, and mail them off). The kick I get out of that is well worth 37 cents.
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Sorry, If I want to business in WA, I need to know WA law. That's a fact of life. I wouldn't have a problem with the Federal law, if it did not destroy individual's right to sue.
If a company wants to protect itself, it should be able to show that I intentionally OPTED IN. If I want commercial mail, I'll ask for it. And what I really want to do, is not sue spammers, but the bastard companies that hire them. I don't do business with anyone that spams me - and I would love to hurt them. BTW, I don't consider commercial email that I request, to be spam. Spam is unrequested junk mail.
I guess I better get my claims going soon. Maybe I can bankrupt one of these companies. That would be a delightful achievement - and one the creeps deserve! Oh yes, and different state laws would be an advantage. It would make companies leery of spam and hopefully, some would pass on the idea. I don't see any downside.
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I dissagree. If I get a judgement against a person in WA state, where I can get $500 per spam minimum, I can enforce that judgement in their own state. I also get to sue in my home state because by sending me mail here, it subjects them to WA jurisdiction. The $100 or $25 fines in the federal are trivial. And just try to get the government to do something - particularly when it is our reps who can get funding from organizations and such. This law makes the individual powerless in favor of our government watching out for us. That sure makes me feel great.
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Look at pg 47, line 16:
This law kills all the state's remedies that have been developed to provide recipients a way to sue spammers. This law has lower fines. This law frekin' sucks!
* German town selects GNU/Linux - I hear no outcry.
* China builds Red Flag Linux - Where are the protests?
* Massachusets decides to look into open source - I don't hear any Witches screaming.
Why is it that when I saw the headline, I cringed? I knew that it would bring out the comments from people like you. As much as people try to mask their racism with comments about how awful the Israeli government is, it is comments like yours that are most revealing about the latent racism that exists. I may dissagree with repression (whether Israeli or my own government's (US)), but that isn't your point. I'm a "Filthy Kyke scum" as you so elegantly stated.
I'd a killed for that - how many k you think a 15 minute cassette tape holds? I felt lucky to have it though - saved retyping everytime the computer got shut off.
Most would be outraged too if they didn't give permision. However:
Thought Equity gets agreement from any and all parties to get exclusive worldwide distribution rights, Schaff said. Thought Equity also doesn't use ads featuring actors who belong to the Screen Actors Guild.
The ballet ad was the original. It was the the ballet company that decided not to use it. This guy bought it and sold it to a Vo-Tech school in Wyoming. So, they replaced the Ballet Co's ending with this:
"Everyone has skills. Some earn money. Enroll at WyoTech."
This actually seems to fit the ad - the ad shows kids fooling around. Young kids usually need some kind of education. Then it gives a name of the school. Really quite clever - a ballet company recoups some costs for what would have been a stupid ad for them, a school which likely couldn't afford to make its own ad gets one that works fairly well.
I'm not trolling, just criticising. Every time I've used Gnome for a while, something happens (I imagine it is something I do but for the life of me, I can't say what) and then it becomes horribly tweaked, e.g., I'll try to sign in and all I get are bunches of error message boxes. I don't have that kind of issue w/ KDE. Maybe I use it wrong... but in terms of usuablity, I think it would be way more useful if it was less fragile.
The difference I think, as one poster mentioned, is that these are generic clones. To take that a step further, can you name the company who made your 486? Maybe, most can't. You are referring to your old computer not by any name, but the processor it contains. Now obviously, that 486sx is way better than my TRS-80 CoCo with 16k ram and the chicklet keyboard (silver case) - sadly dead now - but I have a CoCo 2. The CoCo was completely unique and so it makes for good nostalgia. A 486? Whose, which, what one?
I'm not trying to belittle your nostalgia, I just feel sad for you in a way - the people who grew up with an 80s machine are able to dose up on a higher quality nostalgia.
BTW, what an interesting day for this pop up. I dragged out that CoCo from the closet earlier and have playing with it half the day.
Also think which company sells products that you *literally* can not live without.
I buy from *neither* and I'm alive and well. Ask yourself this: how good a deal will Wal-Mart be when they have 90+% market share? Just look at MS for you're answer. Personally, I think diversity in the market place is worth an extra quarter on a gallon of milk. When the diversity is all gone, everyone will have to pay an extra dollar - consider it an investment in future savings.
RMS has always been championing free software, and it is rather sad that people show no gratitude for what he has accomplished, instead mocking him for his beliefs.
The more I listen, the more I like him (I've still got a few more speeches to listen to). I've even been tempted to burn a disc or two for my non-techie friends, because much of what he says applies in circles way outside of software development. But, back to your point above, I'm in full agreement - he's been working on this stuff since the mid 80s. I don't think it's right to begrudge him the credit he is due.
I'll freely admit that I didn't read your entire post (format-free rants are usually not worth it anyway). I would however like to respond to one point:
The Atty Gen's job is to ENFORCE the laws that are on the books which were MADE by CONGRESS.
It is impossible for the Office of the Attorney General to enforce every law on the books. As such, the AG in office decides which laws are to be given priority enforcement. So the truth is, the AG in power becomes the final arbiter of what the law really is in "real life" to some extent.
This is also true for other agencies or arms of the government. For example, the City of Seattle (through the initiative process) recently decided that the police are to give the lowest priority to pot possession crimes. This doesn't change a single law regarding the legality of pot, but it changes things in the real world. The existence of a law is meaningless if it is never applied.
Come on, this is just how language is used. Like when someone says "I built a house". Chances are, they mean they paid for someone to build it - but you never hear it spoken that way.
I see now. Mozilla doesn't change the program icon to the favicon when you see the icon in the taskbar or alt-tab window. I don't use Konqueror enough to be familiar with its habits.
After some comments a week or so ago about Stallman not being a good public speaker, I decided to listen to his speeches and hear for myself. I admit that I too have had a sort of "get over yourself" attitude about him - but I'm realizing as I listen to what he has to say, that I developed this by listening to others who have that attitude, rather than listening to RMS. I won't say I don't have any of that attitude left, but I will say that I think he raises some very provacative issues in his speeches. When he talks about the history of the project, I can also understand why he desires some credit for his and his group's efforts. He did afterall, quit a nice cushy job on principle - I've never done that, I think most people haven't. I respect that "put your money where your mouth is" level of conviction.
Anyway, I don't know that I concurr with all he says, but I do have a lot more respect for him after listening to his talks for a few hours. And incidently, while he may not sparkle like a movie star, his presentations are good. And that is how it should be - they are informative works rather than works of entertainment.
I was wondering about this. It is crashing my Mozilla (1.2.1). It works in Konqueror, but there is an oddity - the taskbar program icon is a netscape icon - not Konqueror's (and I've never had the actual "netscape" installed here). All my other Konqueror windows jave the correct icon - it's just the one for this article that is strange. Anyone know what causes this?
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You make some good points about swearing, and dang it, if I get in trouble somewhere for it, that's on me. I know it is potentially offensive when I do it and so I take that risk.
The bad thing about the spam law is that it destroys a good local rule. Business in general are completely used to the fact that there is concurrent state and federal jurisdiction over many areas. Take for example the minimum wage law. It is higher in many states despite the existence of a federal minimum. Or workplace safety laws. If your MA company does business in WA, it will have to conform to WA minimum wage and WISHA regulations (both more stringent than fed. min. wage and OSHA).
Spam should be no different. I don't mind federal minimum standards to protect citizens of states where their legislature is too stupid or bought to make good spam law, my beef is with the destruction of a more stringent spam law by the federal legislation. By removing more stringent state laws, the federal law makes it easier for spammers to exist. The federal law is therefore a a bad law in its present form. Change it or kill, but don't pass it.
Not necessarily true at all. People will use what they are used to using.
Last night I booted into Windows (ME) for the first time in a long while to run a TRS-80 emulator. I was shocked at how slow and sluggish it was (not the emulator, everything else) - it was practically infuriating to run a web browser. And to double my frustration, I recently swapped in a new motherboard/video card. When I started Windows, I had to reboot six times and it crashed twice in identifying hardware. Then I had to DL a driver for my ethernet card - it was just a nightmare.
In contrast, in the first boot after the upgrade, Kudzu loaded, recognized and reconfigured all the new hardware in something less than two minutes. Anyway, point is, three or four years ago - I thought Windows was easy and efficient. Today, I see it as sluggish and annoying. The difference between then and now, is that I've gotten used to something else that works better.
So get those kids used a *nix, and they will not only use it outside of school, they are going to demand it.
No - your MA business would be fine. You aren't subject to the law unless you know, or have reason to know that the address is linked to a WA resident. RCW 19.190.020 (and if you are business obscuring your email details - I have no pity). In order to make sure spammers have reason to know, WA residents can register their email addresses. And besides, nothing stops an inquiry to the ISP either. There is nothing you can say, or argue, that can cause me to be sympathetic to commercial email.
The worst part about spam is that I can't do what I do with paper spam - cross mailing junk mail (insert visa offer into mastercard offer, and mail them off). The kick I get out of that is well worth 37 cents.
Sorry, If I want to business in WA, I need to know WA law. That's a fact of life. I wouldn't have a problem with the Federal law, if it did not destroy individual's right to sue.
If a company wants to protect itself, it should be able to show that I intentionally OPTED IN. If I want commercial mail, I'll ask for it. And what I really want to do, is not sue spammers, but the bastard companies that hire them. I don't do business with anyone that spams me - and I would love to hurt them. BTW, I don't consider commercial email that I request, to be spam. Spam is unrequested junk mail.
I guess I better get my claims going soon. Maybe I can bankrupt one of these companies. That would be a delightful achievement - and one the creeps deserve! Oh yes, and different state laws would be an advantage. It would make companies leery of spam and hopefully, some would pass on the idea. I don't see any downside.
I dissagree. If I get a judgement against a person in WA state, where I can get $500 per spam minimum, I can enforce that judgement in their own state. I also get to sue in my home state because by sending me mail here, it subjects them to WA jurisdiction. The $100 or $25 fines in the federal are trivial. And just try to get the government to do something - particularly when it is our reps who can get funding from organizations and such. This law makes the individual powerless in favor of our government watching out for us. That sure makes me feel great.
Look at pg 47, line 16:
This law kills all the state's remedies that have been developed to provide recipients a way to sue spammers. This law has lower fines. This law frekin' sucks!
Stupid mods - your post was funny!
Haven't they heard of retro-cool? To be really cool - they should do some type of ASII animation.
Yours is as good as any
* German town selects GNU/Linux - I hear no outcry.
* China builds Red Flag Linux - Where are the protests?
* Massachusets decides to look into open source - I don't hear any Witches screaming.
Why is it that when I saw the headline, I cringed? I knew that it would bring out the comments from people like you. As much as people try to mask their racism with comments about how awful the Israeli government is, it is comments like yours that are most revealing about the latent racism that exists. I may dissagree with repression (whether Israeli or my own government's (US)), but that isn't your point. I'm a "Filthy Kyke scum" as you so elegantly stated.
Here's to hoping you're a Microsoft Troll.
Athiesm is a religion in the same way that freedom is slavery.
Breeders
Controlling people are assholes. So, in addition to getting rid of master/slave terminology, we need to rename that controller "thingy".
I'm not kidding.
Not to forget the *huge* harddisk of 20 megabytes
I'd a killed for that - how many k you think a 15 minute cassette tape holds? I felt lucky to have it though - saved retyping everytime the computer got shut off.
Most would be outraged too if they didn't give permision. However:
Did you read the article? I sure hope not.
The ballet ad was the original. It was the the ballet company that decided not to use it. This guy bought it and sold it to a Vo-Tech school in Wyoming. So, they replaced the Ballet Co's ending with this:
This actually seems to fit the ad - the ad shows kids fooling around. Young kids usually need some kind of education. Then it gives a name of the school. Really quite clever - a ballet company recoups some costs for what would have been a stupid ad for them, a school which likely couldn't afford to make its own ad gets one that works fairly well.
I am using rh9, and I did try Ximian. After that, things got really out of hand.
I'm not trolling, just criticising. Every time I've used Gnome for a while, something happens (I imagine it is something I do but for the life of me, I can't say what) and then it becomes horribly tweaked, e.g., I'll try to sign in and all I get are bunches of error message boxes. I don't have that kind of issue w/ KDE. Maybe I use it wrong
The difference I think, as one poster mentioned, is that these are generic clones. To take that a step further, can you name the company who made your 486? Maybe, most can't. You are referring to your old computer not by any name, but the processor it contains. Now obviously, that 486sx is way better than my TRS-80 CoCo with 16k ram and the chicklet keyboard (silver case) - sadly dead now - but I have a CoCo 2. The CoCo was completely unique and so it makes for good nostalgia. A 486? Whose, which, what one?
I'm not trying to belittle your nostalgia, I just feel sad for you in a way - the people who grew up with an 80s machine are able to dose up on a higher quality nostalgia.
BTW, what an interesting day for this pop up. I dragged out that CoCo from the closet earlier and have playing with it half the day.
I buy from *neither* and I'm alive and well. Ask yourself this: how good a deal will Wal-Mart be when they have 90+% market share? Just look at MS for you're answer. Personally, I think diversity in the market place is worth an extra quarter on a gallon of milk. When the diversity is all gone, everyone will have to pay an extra dollar - consider it an investment in future savings.
The more I listen, the more I like him (I've still got a few more speeches to listen to). I've even been tempted to burn a disc or two for my non-techie friends, because much of what he says applies in circles way outside of software development. But, back to your point above, I'm in full agreement - he's been working on this stuff since the mid 80s. I don't think it's right to begrudge him the credit he is due.
I'll freely admit that I didn't read your entire post (format-free rants are usually not worth it anyway). I would however like to respond to one point:
It is impossible for the Office of the Attorney General to enforce every law on the books. As such, the AG in office decides which laws are to be given priority enforcement. So the truth is, the AG in power becomes the final arbiter of what the law really is in "real life" to some extent.
This is also true for other agencies or arms of the government. For example, the City of Seattle (through the initiative process) recently decided that the police are to give the lowest priority to pot possession crimes. This doesn't change a single law regarding the legality of pot, but it changes things in the real world. The existence of a law is meaningless if it is never applied.
Come on, this is just how language is used. Like when someone says "I built a house". Chances are, they mean they paid for someone to build it - but you never hear it spoken that way.
I see now. Mozilla doesn't change the program icon to the favicon when you see the icon in the taskbar or alt-tab window. I don't use Konqueror enough to be familiar with its habits.
After some comments a week or so ago about Stallman not being a good public speaker, I decided to listen to his speeches and hear for myself. I admit that I too have had a sort of "get over yourself" attitude about him - but I'm realizing as I listen to what he has to say, that I developed this by listening to others who have that attitude, rather than listening to RMS. I won't say I don't have any of that attitude left, but I will say that I think he raises some very provacative issues in his speeches. When he talks about the history of the project, I can also understand why he desires some credit for his and his group's efforts. He did afterall, quit a nice cushy job on principle - I've never done that, I think most people haven't. I respect that "put your money where your mouth is" level of conviction.
Anyway, I don't know that I concurr with all he says, but I do have a lot more respect for him after listening to his talks for a few hours. And incidently, while he may not sparkle like a movie star, his presentations are good. And that is how it should be - they are informative works rather than works of entertainment.
I was wondering about this. It is crashing my Mozilla (1.2.1). It works in Konqueror, but there is an oddity - the taskbar program icon is a netscape icon - not Konqueror's (and I've never had the actual "netscape" installed here). All my other Konqueror windows jave the correct icon - it's just the one for this article that is strange. Anyone know what causes this?