1. social does not include passive aggressive shit like taking the blame for shit that happens because their bosses don't fucking comprehend what it is they're supposed to in the first place.
2. The neurotypical geeks ARE the half assed ones. Sure they dress nice and give you a firm handshake and socially lick the butts of insecure management, but they suck at their jobs.
uh no. they're there because people are socially insecure nancy boys who can't handle the blunt, direct nature of technology types...or the fact their hair isn't regulation, or because they have a piercing.. or because of their clothing style. Basically, it's a bunch of people who were rich prick prep types in high school who are completely intolerant of anyone who doesn't fit their clique. Naturally, as lawyers, they pushed their prejudice into the legal code.
Well americans generally value freedom of speech, even if they don't realize it. It's usually the european left-center spineless twats who tell america we should ban certain words/phrases/texts because they offend some group or other. Any society that bans expression of the truth for the sake of feelings is doomed to fall, and most political speech, no matter how 'extreme' it may be relative to arbitrary consensus, has some truth in it. This truth is usually critical to the situation because otherwise no one would bother risking getting jailed/shot for expressing it. This is why the first amendment of the US constitution is so damned important.
Americans are losing their freedoms fast, but europeans in many countries lost them long ago, if they had them at all.
1. Pakistani is not a race. 2. dealing with threats/cultural analysis is not 'intolerance' no matter what the pc police want us to believe. groups that make these kinds of statements are often guilty of the same behavior and are just looking for victimhood cover for their own power grabs. In this context it applies to both this pakistani politician and the US government. Enough bullshit already. 3. it looks like the US government is rapidly declining to china levels of police state paranoia. 4. that quoted statement does sound like a piece straight out of soviet style press..
We're the ones who paid for your 'free' education.. We americans pay the taxes that fund it. Frankly, we shouldn't be bringing in any foreigners until every employable american is employed. We americans don't want to live the sardine can lifestyles lived in places like china and india, but if we keep bringing in lower wage employees such as yourself to outcompete american citizens, there won't be a nice 'dream' lifestyle for you to emigrate to.. America will be just as shitty a place to live as china and india.. by 2050 it'll be a somalia.
no they wouldn't.. we shouldn't be doing business with slave wage cheap labor havens like china and india in the first place. that's the only way to prevent their shitty lifestyle from exporting itself here.
who cares, they're still coming here, driving down wages, and thus the standard of living. this is how the sardine can life style from india and china will happen here.
Well if few jobs are offered at living wages, then how does one live? if enough employers make work conditions intolerable or pay intolerably low wages, your society falls apart. At some point the employer GIVES a job to an employee, so yes, jobs need to be given, once the prissy, passive aggressive, song and dance that has become job seeking today is over and done with. Americans don't want to live like sardines in a can like the cheap labor places do. Either they will be made to, and thus america becomes a shithole like those places, or we refuse to do significant business with cheap labor havens. The latter is what I think we need to do if we want to protect american lifestyle. cheap labor is an invasionary force, little different than if the chinese decided to send 600 million troops here and take over.
1. android is not a valid comparison. A cellphone is not comparable to a computer desktop of 1993 or 2013, the latter two being quite similar in many respects compared with android.
2. define modern workflow please. when I think 'modern workflow', I think many applications open at once, multimonitor support, and remote screen capability. of course, what most people think 'modern workflow' means today is forced full screen one-window-at-a-time ala unity or gnome3 (or windows 8). if this is what you meant by modern workflow, please do us all a favor and use one of those. The rest of us need desktops that are more powerful than a tabletOS graft.
3. modern toolkits are also bloated and buggy too. there's no reason for a simple media player to take dozens of megabytes of ram just to display a window and play a music file. If you want to kill bloat, start with the toolkits first, then the backend stuff written in interpreted languages, then maybe worry about X.
4. most of the latency comes from what sits on top of X these days, not X itself. those opengl 'enhanced' window managers are a HUGE lagfest compared with conventional 2D blitting from X. Since most popular distros now ship with them enabled (often on reverse engineered drivers), it doesn't surprise me that most people attribute the performance problems with X.
5. no I wasn't. I was talking from experience of using X on one to two monitors on a single desktop system over the years, starting from 1996-present.
6. old, new, doesn't matter. what matters is whether they are good ideas. a lot of what passes for 'new and improved' these days doesn't seem to hold up to the promise, yet takes more and more resources. I agree with you though: bloat is a big problem these days and it needs to be addressed, but X isn't anywhere near the top of the list.
um.. why would you want a blurry 640x480 stretched game? In addition to looking like shit, it would consume lots of extra gpu resources. better to run the game in 960x540 (or some other even multiple) and have X11/gpu scale it up losslessly.
or even multiples/divisors of that resolution, ideally exposed via EDID. since they're even, the screen can do a simple, lossless point sample scale which is computationally simple (compared to common bilinear) and allow these low resolutions to be full screen with no added latency (scaler chips inside most panels are sloow). These are needed because desktops might be 2560x1600 but most gpus won't run games well at that resolution.
nvidia's windows drivers support scaling in the gpu too, but unfortunately it's filtered.. I wish there was a way to disable that.
Surveillance types always say that. Inevitably, if it's convenient for those in charge, it will become the default. The only way to kill it is to avoid it in the first place. In the case of parenting, I think too many parents will just use them as crutches for their laziness, which will teach the kids the wrong lessons about responsibility and liberty.
well, in contrast, I was expecting lots of ad hom adams today.
Too many parents are too lazy. They'd stick their kids with it because it's convenient if nothing else, and so it WILL become the norm. It shouldn't. All you said was that you're ok with it under some circumstances and because it can be gotten around? Terrible reasoning.
There was a time where we'd only use trackers like this for convicted criminals to enforce house arrest, then assume everyone else was innocent until proven guilty. Whether this is an adult vs the state, or a child vs the parent, the dynamics are the same in all the ways that matter. The lessons and social expectations taught by these collars are not healthy ones, for the wearer, or the task master.
Oh yeah.. why not just go all the way and leave them chipped for life? you know, just in case? let big daddy government watch over them to make sure they don't do anything you don't personally approve of...oh wait, that's right, you'll be chipped too and stuck in the same quandary..
what the fuck is wrong with you?..and you think the rednecks are dumb and short sighted?
Just because someone's not a parent doesn't mean their arguments are wrong. Just because someone IS a parent doesn't mean their arguments are right. Frankly, I think these devices make it too easy...too easy to slip into a mode of thinking where the machine does the work for the parent, and the kid ends up wearing one when he's 16. That is the most likely outcome.
I'm having trouble telling the difference between your use/no use examples as that's what the nanny state would call it: 'enhanced parenting.' The only thing this will do is result in your offspring expecting to be watched 24/7. If lots of parents do this, their kids will enslave them once they're writing the laws, enforcing them, and setting social defaults.
yeah but it comes with several serious deficiencies that come from lack of abstract reasoning skills. learning new skills quickly is all great, but that doesn't mean the skills being learned are truly the best way of doing something.
1. it is a big deal. starting a program should not be a focus stealing, modal event. it's a pain in the ass. Some of us still use our computers for real work and not just checking failbook every 5 minutes.
2. We do'nt see a car with game controllers because game controllers suck! they don't even work well for complex games requiring precision pointing and movement, nevermind driving real equipment in all but the most controlled or consequence-free situations. they are the number one reason why the FPS and RTS genres have been dumbed down over the last 10 years.
3. the 'start' button in cars is a stupid gimmick that doesn't really help anything, and theoretically could get in the way if it malfunctions. A simple switch with a solenoid to drive the starter is a lot more reliable and easy to fix than that overwrought computerized bullshit. It's one example of many where the computerized tech in cars is making basic functionality a process instead of thoughtless, and generally getting in the way of what the user wants to do. I don't want my car requiring service pack 2 so I can get to work on time! changing for the sake of change is retarded when it removes superior functionality for the sake of gimmickry. the 'start' menu in 8 is a perfect example.
4. your last point is a shitty fallacy. false dilemmas don't help make your case.
god you sound like the gnome3 groupies.. touch isn't automatically better.. in fact, it's even more expensive switching to/from it than from keyboard to mouse.. it's fine for constrained devices like phones and pads but not for desktops. who wants fingerprints all over their monitor? the ergonomics of holding your hands up to touch the screen are also questionable.
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1. social does not include passive aggressive shit like taking the blame for shit that happens because their bosses don't fucking comprehend what it is they're supposed to in the first place.
2. The neurotypical geeks ARE the half assed ones. Sure they dress nice and give you a firm handshake and socially lick the butts of insecure management, but they suck at their jobs.
uh no. they're there because people are socially insecure nancy boys who can't handle the blunt, direct nature of technology types...or the fact their hair isn't regulation, or because they have a piercing.. or because of their clothing style. Basically, it's a bunch of people who were rich prick prep types in high school who are completely intolerant of anyone who doesn't fit their clique. Naturally, as lawyers, they pushed their prejudice into the legal code.
Well americans generally value freedom of speech, even if they don't realize it. It's usually the european left-center spineless twats who tell america we should ban certain words/phrases/texts because they offend some group or other. Any society that bans expression of the truth for the sake of feelings is doomed to fall, and most political speech, no matter how 'extreme' it may be relative to arbitrary consensus, has some truth in it. This truth is usually critical to the situation because otherwise no one would bother risking getting jailed/shot for expressing it. This is why the first amendment of the US constitution is so damned important.
Americans are losing their freedoms fast, but europeans in many countries lost them long ago, if they had them at all.
1. Pakistani is not a race.
2. dealing with threats/cultural analysis is not 'intolerance' no matter what the pc police want us to believe. groups that make these kinds of statements are often guilty of the same behavior and are just looking for victimhood cover for their own power grabs. In this context it applies to both this pakistani politician and the US government. Enough bullshit already.
3. it looks like the US government is rapidly declining to china levels of police state paranoia.
4. that quoted statement does sound like a piece straight out of soviet style press..
yes.. you actually have to compete on quality and features instead of artificial lock in.
Why's that? so that way there are 100 million starving children 10 years from now instead of 20 million? Your entire argument is a fallacy.
We're the ones who paid for your 'free' education.. We americans pay the taxes that fund it. Frankly, we shouldn't be bringing in any foreigners until every employable american is employed. We americans don't want to live the sardine can lifestyles lived in places like china and india, but if we keep bringing in lower wage employees such as yourself to outcompete american citizens, there won't be a nice 'dream' lifestyle for you to emigrate to.. America will be just as shitty a place to live as china and india.. by 2050 it'll be a somalia.
no they wouldn't.. we shouldn't be doing business with slave wage cheap labor havens like china and india in the first place. that's the only way to prevent their shitty lifestyle from exporting itself here.
who cares, they're still coming here, driving down wages, and thus the standard of living. this is how the sardine can life style from india and china will happen here.
Well if few jobs are offered at living wages, then how does one live? if enough employers make work conditions intolerable or pay intolerably low wages, your society falls apart. At some point the employer GIVES a job to an employee, so yes, jobs need to be given, once the prissy, passive aggressive, song and dance that has become job seeking today is over and done with. Americans don't want to live like sardines in a can like the cheap labor places do. Either they will be made to, and thus america becomes a shithole like those places, or we refuse to do significant business with cheap labor havens. The latter is what I think we need to do if we want to protect american lifestyle. cheap labor is an invasionary force, little different than if the chinese decided to send 600 million troops here and take over.
1. android is not a valid comparison. A cellphone is not comparable to a computer desktop of 1993 or 2013, the latter two being quite similar in many respects compared with android.
2. define modern workflow please. when I think 'modern workflow', I think many applications open at once, multimonitor support, and remote screen capability. of course, what most people think 'modern workflow' means today is forced full screen one-window-at-a-time ala unity or gnome3 (or windows 8). if this is what you meant by modern workflow, please do us all a favor and use one of those. The rest of us need desktops that are more powerful than a tabletOS graft.
3. modern toolkits are also bloated and buggy too. there's no reason for a simple media player to take dozens of megabytes of ram just to display a window and play a music file. If you want to kill bloat, start with the toolkits first, then the backend stuff written in interpreted languages, then maybe worry about X.
4. most of the latency comes from what sits on top of X these days, not X itself. those opengl 'enhanced' window managers are a HUGE lagfest compared with conventional 2D blitting from X. Since most popular distros now ship with them enabled (often on reverse engineered drivers), it doesn't surprise me that most people attribute the performance problems with X.
5. no I wasn't. I was talking from experience of using X on one to two monitors on a single desktop system over the years, starting from 1996-present.
6. old, new, doesn't matter. what matters is whether they are good ideas. a lot of what passes for 'new and improved' these days doesn't seem to hold up to the promise, yet takes more and more resources. I agree with you though: bloat is a big problem these days and it needs to be addressed, but X isn't anywhere near the top of the list.
um.. why would you want a blurry 640x480 stretched game? In addition to looking like shit, it would consume lots of extra gpu resources. better to run the game in 960x540 (or some other even multiple) and have X11/gpu scale it up losslessly.
or even multiples/divisors of that resolution, ideally exposed via EDID. since they're even, the screen can do a simple, lossless point sample scale which is computationally simple (compared to common bilinear) and allow these low resolutions to be full screen with no added latency (scaler chips inside most panels are sloow). These are needed because desktops might be 2560x1600 but most gpus won't run games well at that resolution.
nvidia's windows drivers support scaling in the gpu too, but unfortunately it's filtered.. I wish there was a way to disable that.
Surveillance types always say that. Inevitably, if it's convenient for those in charge, it will become the default. The only way to kill it is to avoid it in the first place. In the case of parenting, I think too many parents will just use them as crutches for their laziness, which will teach the kids the wrong lessons about responsibility and liberty.
well, in contrast, I was expecting lots of ad hom adams today.
Too many parents are too lazy. They'd stick their kids with it because it's convenient if nothing else, and so it WILL become the norm. It shouldn't. All you said was that you're ok with it under some circumstances and because it can be gotten around? Terrible reasoning.
There was a time where we'd only use trackers like this for convicted criminals to enforce house arrest, then assume everyone else was innocent until proven guilty. Whether this is an adult vs the state, or a child vs the parent, the dynamics are the same in all the ways that matter. The lessons and social expectations taught by these collars are not healthy ones, for the wearer, or the task master.
well, encouraging your kids to submit to it isn't going to fix it that's for sure!
Oh yeah.. why not just go all the way and leave them chipped for life? you know, just in case? let big daddy government watch over them to make sure they don't do anything you don't personally approve of...oh wait, that's right, you'll be chipped too and stuck in the same quandary..
what the fuck is wrong with you? ..and you think the rednecks are dumb and short sighted?
Just because someone's not a parent doesn't mean their arguments are wrong. Just because someone IS a parent doesn't mean their arguments are right. Frankly, I think these devices make it too easy...too easy to slip into a mode of thinking where the machine does the work for the parent, and the kid ends up wearing one when he's 16. That is the most likely outcome.
I'm having trouble telling the difference between your use/no use examples as that's what the nanny state would call it: 'enhanced parenting.' The only thing this will do is result in your offspring expecting to be watched 24/7. If lots of parents do this, their kids will enslave them once they're writing the laws, enforcing them, and setting social defaults.
So much for growing up as an individual.
..and why would you want that? that will create the nightmare you imply is inevitable.
yeah you're overcharged because of a meddling government.
BUT ZOMG CHERNOBYL!!!@!@#@#$!
yeah but it comes with several serious deficiencies that come from lack of abstract reasoning skills. learning new skills quickly is all great, but that doesn't mean the skills being learned are truly the best way of doing something.
1. it is a big deal. starting a program should not be a focus stealing, modal event. it's a pain in the ass. Some of us still use our computers for real work and not just checking failbook every 5 minutes.
2. We do'nt see a car with game controllers because game controllers suck! they don't even work well for complex games requiring precision pointing and movement, nevermind driving real equipment in all but the most controlled or consequence-free situations. they are the number one reason why the FPS and RTS genres have been dumbed down over the last 10 years.
3. the 'start' button in cars is a stupid gimmick that doesn't really help anything, and theoretically could get in the way if it malfunctions. A simple switch with a solenoid to drive the starter is a lot more reliable and easy to fix than that overwrought computerized bullshit. It's one example of many where the computerized tech in cars is making basic functionality a process instead of thoughtless, and generally getting in the way of what the user wants to do. I don't want my car requiring service pack 2 so I can get to work on time! changing for the sake of change is retarded when it removes superior functionality for the sake of gimmickry. the 'start' menu in 8 is a perfect example.
4. your last point is a shitty fallacy. false dilemmas don't help make your case.
god you sound like the gnome3 groupies.. touch isn't automatically better.. in fact, it's even more expensive switching to/from it than from keyboard to mouse.. it's fine for constrained devices like phones and pads but not for desktops. who wants fingerprints all over their monitor? the ergonomics of holding your hands up to touch the screen are also questionable.