Congratualtions. Thats the largest pile of bullshit I've read in a long while. The GUI isn't being forced on anyone. If you want to sit at a console all day, go ahead. No one's stopping you. The GUI is an option. The point I was making to the previous poster was that just becuase he doesn't want/use/like it, doesn't mean that everyone else feels the same. It's all about choice, the whole reason Linux exists in the first place. Linux will never become GUI only configuration, by virtue of the fact that many of the systems it runs on are incapable of using said GUI.
This will happen more and more. I really do expect that at some point someone will just say fuck it and branch their own version of Linux. I see this as possibly a good thing. If this branched version gets all the cool patches that Linus and co are turning down, and they work, it may prove to be a catalyst for change. Either that or the branched version will become better than the original. It happened with XEmacs (which IMHO is much better than Emacs), I see no logical reason it couldn't happen here aswell.
I agree to a point, I've never been a fan of it either. The one good thing about it though, is that you can just shove your mouse pointer to the top of the screen and you'll *always* be on the menubar. Having to aim for a specific area in a window does take longer.
I mean come ON now, who here hasn't actually read the books by Tolkein?
I haven't. I did try, several years ago, but really couldn't get into it. It seemed to me that Tolkien spent far too much time trying to set the scene, and not enough just telling the story. With a film I can see the scene, and only have to follow the story. Although to be honest, I didn't think much of that either, after seeing it. Guess I'm just not a fan.
Not directly perhaps. But that money goes to the government, and the government runs the BBC. AFAIK, none of the money received through licenses ever gets to ITV or C4. They are independant broadcasters and they make their money through ads.
Yeah, and even if you think the BBC is stupid and would never watch it, you don't have a choice.
Fair point, but I don't know anyone who owns a TV and doesn't watch BBC at least some of the time. Even those who own cable or satelite. I've never yet met anyone who complains about the license either.
I've often seen comments from Americans about how stupid it is us Brits have to pay for a TV licence to watch television. Well, that licence funds the BBC, and there are no ads on the BBC channels (apart from advertising the BBC itself). Something to ponder perhaps?
Where the hell would you start? There could be a million and one things go wrong. I guess you could do something along the lines of the Microsoft troubleshooter. But whenever I've had need to use that, 90% of the time it ends up telling me it doesn't know how to fix the problem. Which is about as much use as tits on a bull:/
I tried Aethera, and it was totally unsuable for me. It was one of the ugliest pieces of software I've ever seen. I don't mean to stomp all over the poor guys work but you're right, he really should take a look at some other stuff first. Maybe things have improved for 1.0 though.
I let most of them go, but you've just tipped me over my annoyance limit for today. The word you wanted was your, not you're. You're is short for you are, and the phrase "you are cache will only hold half as many of them" clearly makes no sense. Here endeth the lesson.
Unless your Sun boxes are really old and unsupported this can only be a bad idea imho. Solaris gets the very best out of the Sparc architecture. It will be a long long while before Linux can even approach that.
... is a recipe for civil liberties disaster unless there are provisions for citizens to find out who is looking at their records and to see and correct those records.
Here in the UK we have the Data Protection Act, which all companies must adhere to if they store information about you on their computer systems. Amongst other requirements, it allows you (for a small fee) to obtain a copy of that information on request, and have it modified if it's not accurate. If this does go through, I would hope that the US provides something similar.
Surely only software that people really want the source to will be worth paying for? I couldn't give a rats arse about Windows source, so theres no way I'd bother paying for it. But I may well think about paying for Blender. It's a very neat bit of software, has a lot of community support and is potentially the only decent (read commercially usuable) 3D software available for Linux et al.
How many PC owners regularly lug their machines around? Very few I would expect. I certainly don't, thats what I have a laptop for. And I'd much rather have a spacious case than a tiny one. If you're messing about inside with cables etc, there's nothing worse than having no room to work with.
Why am I wasting my time writing an email client when so many already exist? Because I enjoy it, and have learnt a lot from it. If you're not programming for money, what other reasons do you need than those?
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Congratualtions. Thats the largest pile of bullshit I've read in a long while. The GUI isn't being forced on anyone. If you want to sit at a console all day, go ahead. No one's stopping you. The GUI is an option. The point I was making to the previous poster was that just becuase he doesn't want/use/like it, doesn't mean that everyone else feels the same. It's all about choice, the whole reason Linux exists in the first place. Linux will never become GUI only configuration, by virtue of the fact that many of the systems it runs on are incapable of using said GUI.
This will happen more and more. I really do expect that at some point someone will just say fuck it and branch their own version of Linux. I see this as possibly a good thing. If this branched version gets all the cool patches that Linus and co are turning down, and they work, it may prove to be a catalyst for change. Either that or the branched version will become better than the original. It happened with XEmacs (which IMHO is much better than Emacs), I see no logical reason it couldn't happen here aswell.
Seriously, what's wrong with typing "make menuconfig" now? To me at least, an ncurses-based menu system is just as easy to use as a GUI (yuk).
Seriously, what's wrong with typing "make xconfig" now? To me at least, a GUI menu system is just as easy to use as an ncurses-based one (yuk).
Some people prefer a GUI. Live with it.
I agree to a point, I've never been a fan of it either. The one good thing about it though, is that you can just shove your mouse pointer to the top of the screen and you'll *always* be on the menubar. Having to aim for a specific area in a window does take longer.
Who the hell are you to tell someone what to spend their money on?!
Wrong. And I find that insulting! ;-)
I mean come ON now, who here hasn't actually read the books by Tolkein?
I haven't. I did try, several years ago, but really couldn't get into it. It seemed to me that Tolkien spent far too much time trying to set the scene, and not enough just telling the story. With a film I can see the scene, and only have to follow the story. Although to be honest, I didn't think much of that either, after seeing it. Guess I'm just not a fan.
I used WordPerfect to edit SGML files when I worked for a typesetter. This was 8 years ago.
Not directly perhaps. But that money goes to the government, and the government runs the BBC. AFAIK, none of the money received through licenses ever gets to ITV or C4. They are independant broadcasters and they make their money through ads.
BB was on Channel 4. But nice try.. .;)
Yeah, and even if you think the BBC is stupid and would never watch it, you don't have a choice.
Fair point, but I don't know anyone who owns a TV and doesn't watch BBC at least some of the time. Even those who own cable or satelite. I've never yet met anyone who complains about the license either.
I've often seen comments from Americans about how stupid it is us Brits have to pay for a TV licence to watch television. Well, that licence funds the BBC, and there are no ads on the BBC channels (apart from advertising the BBC itself). Something to ponder perhaps?
Where the hell would you start? There could be a million and one things go wrong. I guess you could do something along the lines of the Microsoft troubleshooter. But whenever I've had need to use that, 90% of the time it ends up telling me it doesn't know how to fix the problem. Which is about as much use as tits on a bull :/
I tried Aethera, and it was totally unsuable for me. It was one of the ugliest pieces of software I've ever seen. I don't mean to stomp all over the poor guys work but you're right, he really should take a look at some other stuff first. Maybe things have improved for 1.0 though.
As opposed to those people who are too dumb to use proper grammar.
I let most of them go, but you've just tipped me over my annoyance limit for today. The word you wanted was your, not you're. You're is short for you are, and the phrase "you are cache will only hold half as many of them" clearly makes no sense. Here endeth the lesson.
Unless your Sun boxes are really old and unsupported this can only be a bad idea imho. Solaris gets the very best out of the Sparc architecture. It will be a long long while before Linux can even approach that.
... is a recipe for civil liberties disaster unless there are provisions for citizens to find out who is looking at their records and to see and correct those records.
Here in the UK we have the Data Protection Act, which all companies must adhere to if they store information about you on their computer systems. Amongst other requirements, it allows you (for a small fee) to obtain a copy of that information on request, and have it modified if it's not accurate. If this does go through, I would hope that the US provides something similar.
What do we do when we wake up in 2003 and find it's 1984?
;-)
First thing I'd do is get a patent on that time machine of yours
If every Slashdotter that cared about Open Source does as I did, and eats beans and rice for lunch tomorrow...
;)
God no. Can you imagine the amount of gas 10000 bean-eating nerds can create? We'd wipe the ozone layer out in a second...
Surely only software that people really want the source to will be worth paying for? I couldn't give a rats arse about Windows source, so theres no way I'd bother paying for it. But I may well think about paying for Blender. It's a very neat bit of software, has a lot of community support and is potentially the only decent (read commercially usuable) 3D software available for Linux et al.
I wonder what it sounds like to hear 100 Japanese rocket scientists screaming "Doh!" at the same time...
How many PC owners regularly lug their machines around? Very few I would expect. I certainly don't, thats what I have a laptop for. And I'd much rather have a spacious case than a tiny one. If you're messing about inside with cables etc, there's nothing worse than having no room to work with.
Why am I wasting my time writing an email client when so many already exist? Because I enjoy it, and have learnt a lot from it. If you're not programming for money, what other reasons do you need than those?
Righty-dokey matey-bloke flap old salty sea-dog amigo skip-jack jockstrap piano-tuner, let's see you balls this one up!
righty dokey skip flip flap jack me old nick nack paddy wack slip de dip lipstick oh look mrs jones bomber harris tweed coat and hat it might be raining achtung baby psycho ward ten minutes please gentlemen its the lavatory express, I will!