The point wasn't really about whether it's been around or not - it would be a heck of lot less engineering, cost, and confusion if the entire PC industry went to something like firewire for their power - much like the standard 3 prong on all CPU towers and desktops
I've always liked the iPod ACs that used firewire cables to charge the iPod & thought Apple (to save money and promote firewire) should standardize all their ACs to this spec and same look.
I thought that you would still get the signal, but it would just be on a lot less of the screen. For instance; like letterbox.
This will be a boondoggle for all the manufacturers like Casio, Sony, and in-car TVs, if they can't receive a signal at all - because they are still selling TVs that can't receive digital and look to be continuing to sell such TVs for some time to come.
If totally true - that sets will go black - this will be a revolt on par with the civil war (I kid not).
Whether I know about it or not... I would choose to have ANY group get clearance from me before charging admission to my venue. Otherwise, I would rather them go somewhere else. (Windfall from their presence or not)
Some guests may be offended by the topic or dujour the group is involved in.
Again, if they are meeting for free and maybe someone else overheard and asked to join and was allowed to... sure it's ok. Even that said, I would demand that you have the respect for my facility and ask in advance to meet there.
To reply to this and another post... casual business meetings between less than 4 or so people is NOT what I'm remotely discussing... nor are you charging admission.
Ummm... there were actual schematics, actual specifications, where the products were being produced and the entire supply chain for the product was revealed. ALL of this information was generated by Apple, for Apple, on Apple property. Any other use, beyond public announcement - is misuse of those business plans and therefore THEFT.
Please get it right. This isn't speech. Just because something is written down or on paper or online doesn't make it public property. These were business plans and schematics. It is NO DIFFERENT than Al Capone breaking in to a facility and stealing building schematics to break in to safes.
Can Organizers profit from their Groups?
Sure, as long as you comply with community standards (and Meetup's Terms of Service).
As a business owner I don't mind anyone using my facilities for public free use... but when they turn MY facility in to a paid venue, that concerns me and I'm sure would concern coffee shops and book stores (the most common place for meetups)
If a group is meeting in my place and it is not sponsored by me, it must be free and inclusive of anyone that wishes to join. If I am sponsoring it, then I have the right to exclude anyone who doesn't want to pay dues.
It's because Apple is right in this case... contrary to what the reporters at these papers are saying... there is no corporate scandal here, there is no health risk... plain and simple... items were STOLEN from the Apple Campus and thenreported in opposition to the Uniform Trade Secret Act.
I suppose i wille flamebait and say... besides... the first ammendment was specifically written sothe public could have redress against the government and have the freedom to do so.
That said, if Apple were involved in corporate scandal or posing a health risk, those reporting WOULD have immunity because it would be an issue the government would have to address and impune.
I have switched the majority of my site [jackwhispers.com] to a blogger BLOG [jackwhispers.blogspot.com]. It's been a way for my site to grow easily. It's also easy to gain revenue from BLOGs that otherwise might not have been successful. I also can post small or insignificant posts that relate to my site's content, get reader feedback, and allow people who disagree with my editorials to return comment.
Your engadget reference is a good example of this... until someone here on slashdot pointed it out to me, I didn't realize that Weblogs Inc was formed for the specific purpose of generating ads on BLOGs. Engadget is such a BLOg and the most successful of Weblogs Inc ventures.
Very interesting how this article was carefully worded not to mention that REPUBLICANS ARE AGAINST CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM.
Campaign finance reform (which this post mentions may be the crux to limiting BLOGs) is mostly a democrat and republicrat (John McCain) idea and push....
I'd have to 2nd that - the Apple logo is a contributing factor.... that's why MacMice (shady company or not) has something going for them. While it's not an Apple logo mouse it does look identical - just with two buttons and a scroll.
Also, not everything has been invented - Apple had a patent approved about a year ago to include a wheel like the iPods on their mice so that you could scroll vertically & horizontally or just disable it and use the one button.
The Logitech VX500 wireless mouse is a true innovation as it uses trackpad technology as well.
Apple could easily step in and get Logitech (who makes their mice now) to make a mouse for them that raises the bar. I would assume that the VX500 will be something like the new Apple mouse if it materializes.
You can be confrontational if you wish by essentially calling a very successful patent and copyright consultant an idiot.
"...from one human to another"
Incorrect - business plans are not from one human to another - they are from one company to another and publicly diseminated.
Again, it is NOT opinion, just because something is on paper or used to communicate an idea or concept does NOT make it speech. It is a physical tangible object.
If all written material is speech and able to be used freely, I'll just ask your neighbor to peek at your credit card or social security info, get him to post it to my BLOG and therefore get it published. It's my right to publish it after all.
Business plans are NOT speech - they are property. They are physical documentation and schematics. Just because they contain words and can be printed or could be considered artistically meritted does NOT mean they are speech.
And by the way, even if you pay the poet -- it is still NOT yours! Ask any songwriter.
If you write the code yourself FOR YOUR own company - it is your speech. If you write that code on some other company's time for THEIR benefit - it is their PROPERTY and NOT speech.
People are trying to term these trade secrets like they are something that is just common water cooler talk and newspaper articles.
These are business plans, schematics, insider corporate strategy NOT speech - these items are CAD drawings, supplier contracts... NOT speech.... so no speech was abridged... and besides Congress didn't make a law. A judge ruled and enforced the law.
Patent Pending is very a thin line - which I presume would be legally substantial.... so a patent does not "have to be on the books" to be legally binding property.
Incorrect - I do patent and copyright consultation - patent information is considered a business plan which is equal to property. It is NOT speech! Speech is only such if it is diseminated in a public forum or to a non private party.
Patent and Copyright information is PRIVATE information UNTIL it becomes written in the books and available for searching BY the PUBLIC.
I'll vote that O'Grady's Powerpage is DEFINITELY NOT! That site has tanked in the past few months-year.
And talk about freedom of speech? When The PowerPage readers started challenging what O'Grady was posting on his website and just spitting out rants about how Apple sucks, he ended all comments - now you can't comment on articles any more.
Slashdot Mirror
The point wasn't really about whether it's been around or not - it would be a heck of lot less engineering, cost, and confusion if the entire PC industry went to something like firewire for their power - much like the standard 3 prong on all CPU towers and desktops
I've always liked the iPod ACs that used firewire cables to charge the iPod & thought Apple (to save money and promote firewire) should standardize all their ACs to this spec and same look.
I thought that you would still get the signal, but it would just be on a lot less of the screen. For instance; like letterbox.
This will be a boondoggle for all the manufacturers like Casio, Sony, and in-car TVs, if they can't receive a signal at all - because they are still selling TVs that can't receive digital and look to be continuing to sell such TVs for some time to come.
If totally true - that sets will go black - this will be a revolt on par with the civil war (I kid not).
Whether I know about it or not ... I would choose to have ANY group get clearance from me before charging admission to my venue. Otherwise, I would rather them go somewhere else. (Windfall from their presence or not)
... sure it's ok. Even that said, I would demand that you have the respect for my facility and ask in advance to meet there.
... casual business meetings between less than 4 or so people is NOT what I'm remotely discussing ... nor are you charging admission.
Some guests may be offended by the topic or dujour the group is involved in.
Again, if they are meeting for free and maybe someone else overheard and asked to join and was allowed to
To reply to this and another post
Your business meeting is a closed meeting - meaning you are not openly seeking admission or dues and expressly using my business as your only venue.
and for clarification:
What is:
a $300-500 business lunch
Ummm ... there were actual schematics, actual specifications, where the products were being produced and the entire supply chain for the product was revealed. ALL of this information was generated by Apple, for Apple, on Apple property. Any other use, beyond public announcement - is misuse of those business plans and therefore THEFT.
Please get it right. This isn't speech. Just because something is written down or on paper or online doesn't make it public property. These were business plans and schematics. It is NO DIFFERENT than Al Capone breaking in to a facility and stealing building schematics to break in to safes.
This part of the revision concerns me...
... but when they turn MY facility in to a paid venue, that concerns me and I'm sure would concern coffee shops and book stores (the most common place for meetups)
Can Organizers profit from their Groups?
Sure, as long as you comply with community standards (and Meetup's Terms of Service).
As a business owner I don't mind anyone using my facilities for public free use
If a group is meeting in my place and it is not sponsored by me, it must be free and inclusive of anyone that wishes to join. If I am sponsoring it, then I have the right to exclude anyone who doesn't want to pay dues.
It's because Apple is right in this case ... contrary to what the reporters at these papers are saying ... there is no corporate scandal here, there is no health risk... plain and simple ... items were STOLEN from the Apple Campus and thenreported in opposition to the Uniform Trade Secret Act.
... besides ... the first ammendment was specifically written sothe public could have redress against the government and have the freedom to do so.
...
I suppose i wille flamebait and say
That said, if Apple were involved in corporate scandal or posing a health risk, those reporting WOULD have immunity because it would be an issue the government would have to address and impune.
For more on this issue, read:
Save Nick vs Save Apple
The firewire/USB analogy is bad anyway because firewire isn't compareable nor really even competitive with USB 2.0.
...
USB 2.0 has merits - firewire has it's merits
The only disadvantage that firewire has is its lack of being on all computers
But to me, the major disadvantage USB 2.0 has is that it typically needs to be powered and can't maintain stable high speeds like firewire can.
I have switched the majority of my site [jackwhispers.com] to a blogger BLOG [jackwhispers.blogspot.com]. It's been a way for my site to grow easily. It's also easy to gain revenue from BLOGs that otherwise might not have been successful. I also can post small or insignificant posts that relate to my site's content, get reader feedback, and allow people who disagree with my editorials to return comment.
... until someone here on slashdot pointed it out to me, I didn't realize that Weblogs Inc was formed for the specific purpose of generating ads on BLOGs. Engadget is such a BLOg and the most successful of Weblogs Inc ventures.
Your engadget reference is a good example of this
Very interesting how this article was carefully worded not to mention that REPUBLICANS ARE AGAINST CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM.
...
Campaign finance reform (which this post mentions may be the crux to limiting BLOGs) is mostly a democrat and republicrat (John McCain) idea and push.
Read about that at Jackwhispers
Wow, gone for a few minutes and you miss a lot.
Jack has been active lately. He is notorious in the Mac Community.
Everyone should read my article on his company and past in the Mac Community. It's called: Catch Me If You Can Part II: The True Story Behind MacMice
Make sure to also see the about section to gain clarity on who writes Jackwhispers and why.
I agree ... it WAS MOST likely $1
I'd have to 2nd that - the Apple logo is a contributing factor.... that's why MacMice (shady company or not) has something going for them. While it's not an Apple logo mouse it does look identical - just with two buttons and a scroll.
Also, not everything has been invented - Apple had a patent approved about a year ago to include a wheel like the iPods on their mice so that you could scroll vertically & horizontally or just disable it and use the one button.
The Logitech VX500 wireless mouse is a true innovation as it uses trackpad technology as well.
Apple could easily step in and get Logitech (who makes their mice now) to make a mouse for them that raises the bar. I would assume that the VX500 will be something like the new Apple mouse if it materializes.
You can be confrontational if you wish by essentially calling a very successful patent and copyright consultant an idiot.
...from one human to another"
"
Incorrect - business plans are not from one human to another - they are from one company to another and publicly diseminated.
Again, it is NOT opinion, just because something is on paper or used to communicate an idea or concept does NOT make it speech. It is a physical tangible object.
If all written material is speech and able to be used freely, I'll just ask your neighbor to peek at your credit card or social security info, get him to post it to my BLOG and therefore get it published. It's my right to publish it after all.
And as the original poster I will say again...
Business plans are NOT speech - they are property. They are physical documentation and schematics. Just because they contain words and can be printed or could be considered artistically meritted does NOT mean they are speech.
And by the way, even if you pay the poet -- it is still NOT yours! Ask any songwriter.
If you write the code yourself FOR YOUR own company - it is your speech. If you write that code on some other company's time for THEIR benefit - it is their PROPERTY and NOT speech.
No one has really touched on the support nightmare that this could mean for Apple if these emulators ever DO become popular or viable.
That is of course, except for my site.
HTTP://JACKWHISPERS.BLOGSPOT.COM
People are trying to term these trade secrets like they are something that is just common water cooler talk and newspaper articles.
... NOT speech .... so no speech was abridged ... and besides Congress didn't make a law. A judge ruled and enforced the law.
These are business plans, schematics, insider corporate strategy NOT speech - these items are CAD drawings, supplier contracts
paypalsucks.com is sponsored by Paypal's competition.
The "webmaster" deletes POSITIVE statements about Paypal or anyone who defends them.
The site presents all sorts of problems like:
"Paypal doesn't have a visible phone number"
Well, then genius critic - why DON'T YOU POST PROMINENTLY ON YOUR SITE.
I hate people who pose a problem without any action to find a solution.
It's equivalent to not voting (or advocating if you can't) and complaining about our president!
the actual posting takes about 20 to 45 days to show up though ... but you are correct. The review process can take up to two years
Patent Pending is very a thin line - which I presume would be legally substantial.... so a patent does not "have to be on the books" to be legally binding property.
Incorrect - I do patent and copyright consultation - patent information is considered a business plan which is equal to property. It is NOT speech! Speech is only such if it is diseminated in a public forum or to a non private party.
Patent and Copyright information is PRIVATE information UNTIL it becomes written in the books and available for searching BY the PUBLIC.
I'll vote that O'Grady's Powerpage is DEFINITELY NOT! That site has tanked in the past few months-year.
And talk about freedom of speech? When The PowerPage readers started challenging what O'Grady was posting on his website and just spitting out rants about how Apple sucks, he ended all comments - now you can't comment on articles any more.