Think Secret is NOT an Apple fan - in fact they often report negatively - partner with the resellers that are suing Apple - and do so at the expense of Apple buyers (stealing press thunder, building up expectations too high, and litigation/cease and decist concerns)
I think you are referring to the shield law, but that applies to criminal and federal cases where the journalist can prove he may be at harm or be casued damaged if they reveal sources (even then - it doesn't apply to federal cases)
The law that does apply here is the UTSA - Uniform Trade Secrets Act - it specifically says you cannot report or disseminate information you know or can easily research and know is trade secret.
Really, copyright law applies here too - Think Secret was posting copyrighted/Patented information (that was not yet available at USPTO.GOV)
No, they specifically explained that they would recreate David's mother from the strand of hair, able to pull her existence from the fabric of time, she would only be able to have memory of David in the present as her son because she had no other memory. David spent a few hours with her - creating memories FOR her in the timespace she was alotted.
Your moderation proves who's the dumb one I think.
The most accepted theory is that they were aliens - this was also touched on by Spielberg in interviews AFTER the "controversy" popped up on the internet.
Yeah, yeah.... and in 10,000 years he'll pull out a strand of David's mother's hair and the aliens will briefly recreate his mother so he can be a real boy for a few hours... Man,/. stories are just repeats from the past or repeats of the inevitable future nowadays.
Match.com and especially Yahoo personals are MOSTLY fake... at least when searching for females. A lot of cities NATIONWIDE have ads that have local girls with SAME picture.
Personals have become mostly a playboy/user site for men and a solicitation/email harvest for women.
I saw a program on Scientific American Fronteirs yesterday showing how a guy had created solar panels that could be 90% damaged (with holes through it) and STILL produce useable amounts of electricity.
In 95, I was accessing the internet with a Mac. If Apple had won it's lawsuit in 96 we probably would have had streaming media and iTunes Music Store, possibly even faster broadband adoption YEARS before.
There's a possibility we may not even be discussing a security hole every day in the prevalent OS on Slashdot.
I guess he feels like he isn't a terrorist so he shouldn't be subject to scrutiny... the thing is... I have pondered that the next terrorist attack will be perpetrated by a white male - paid off by Al Qaida as an operative or sympathetic towards muslim extremism or possibly hatred towards politicians or Christians in this country.
So - he SHOULD be required to give his ID, and he should be happy that we are TRYING in at least SOME capacity to stop a disaster from repeating.
"People are too wrapped up with what the law says..."
Yes lawlessness has overwhelmed us... statements such as this only prove it. A little money here and a little money here are equal to a little crime here, and a little crime there - they both add up over time.
People who feel they can break the law in one way - will start to desensitise themselves to any law.
In the case of P2P - I am for file sharing - but I am not for sites that run paid services illegally or sites like SuperNOva who's main content was illegal downloaded software, illegally obtained and filmed movies, and other questionable content.
This said, people who think all downloads of everything its ok to rob people of their property and property rights are the same people who agree with imminent domain. You have to. You feel that property should be shared and that private property is yours for the plundering.
So, those who are often worried about their 1st ammendment rights - should take a look at the 4th ammendment. Seizure of private property by governments is happening everywhere - my thoughts - your robbing from someone because they are wealthy mentality.
"Opressed people throughout history..."
This is a good statement - but NO ONE is being opressed by not being able to listen to music in a certain way = digital download! Please don't compare our forefather's struggle death for civil rights to Napster - which acurately or not - is compared to Communism!
By the way - call people wealthy - not rich. Call people low income instead of poor. Poverty is a cliche - at least in the US.
This would be the most reasonable thing to do - since it seems like the legal bills for this kid will be paid or possibly donated in to - it serve to scare him and warn others this can't be done.
Apple is trying very hard to set legal precedents lately - no one will stop buying Macs because of some image - and if they do they are idiots.
People whining about public image are just hypocrits. I haven't seen people stop buying Kentucky Fried Chicken since the chicken abuse story came out a few months ago.
The Airport Extreme Card is in a mini PCI slot in all Apple laptops. The laptops will not accept any other mini PCI card.
So - I would imagine this is ALREADY more of a driver issue than a real BIOS issue + isn't there a ROM on the Mini PCI cards telling them to look for specific pieces of hardware to interact with???
How many people base their decisions on how much they actually like the company?
Very few if any Coca Cola collectors refuse Pepsi if its the only soft drink choice.
Also, about a year back there was a guy in the Mac Community named Jack Campbell - he had the worst reputation in all that was Mac. Now, he runs a multi million dollar business. Nobody seems to care about his reputation when buying from him.
An Apple Store was recently broken in to Pittsburgh PA.
The whole incident was caught on iSight webcams and used as evidence.
I recently helped with a setup of a system using an iSight Camera and a Blue and White G3 to help catch who was stealing laptops and other items out of the fridge at a local university.
The EFF also supports websites like: www.itunesisbogus.com - so this is no surprise.
I hate it when comments like this are made without a clue as to the real reasons Apple is seeing this a necessary step:
As long as Think Secret is not bribing or blackmailing people there should be no problem.
Extend the list of offenses that you think Apple has merit in this case to: solicitation.
Think Secret - apart from ALL OTHER rumor sites - specifically solicits information through a phone number. Therefore, enticing people to call.
What many of you are confused about on the bribery part is... one doesn't necessarily have to pay someone $$ to bribe them. Anonymous ego boosting notariety is also payment to some.
Think Secret was inarguably one of the most hits websites around MacWorld Expo. In fact - it even broke the top 25 according Netcraft on 2 days.
Do you not think the people that gave the information to Nick Ciarelli were proud? Do you not think some of them felt important? Do you not think some of them are reading boards like this right now - revelling in the fact that we are discussing the very information they dealt out illegally - making them feel even more important???
I have brought this point up sveral times as well - I'm not sure if Think Secret/Nick Ciarelli are entirely all good intentions. It has always bothered me that they seem to be the first one with breaking news about the reseller lawsuits. These suits are completely without merit and come from two of the WORST resellers to ever hock Apple products or services EVER! (There's plenty of proof online - such as http://www.omino.com/~dom/readme/tomsantos.html) Think Secret is no different than an underage porn site. It is illegal to publish it, yet there are plenty who are curious to see it.
One person had this to say on my website:
"...Think Secret (in achieving a degree of accuracy that can only be a result of people breaking their NDAs) becomes analogous to the old Head Shops, that sold drug paraphernalia. Nothing they actually sold was, strictly speaking, illegal. But the only uses for most of their products WERE illegal. And so Head Shops were made illegal, too."
And as a note, can we stop using similie and metaphor here - these are NOT - trade secrets - they are business plans, they are actual schematics, they are property. Some of us are trying to take meaning out of the words trade secrets like it's just a few words. This actual documentation that people hold that is privately OWNED information important to a business's success vs it's competitors.
FROM THIS POINT ON - you can be assured that rumor sites will be getting VERY close looks from the competition. In fact, I would be amazed if Creative didn't have a special position at the company now to find out future iPod information so they can beat Apple to market.
I have noticed this myself.... most blogs are turning in to spamblogs.
Engadget (where slashdot gets a lot of its stories) is a great site, but the ad content has risen significantly over the past few months.
Blogs were originally meant to be diaries and driven by either pseudo journalism for fun or just a way to rant about topics the owner loved to talk about. In some cases, they were meant to be ways to keep in contact with friends.
The mainstream, embracing blogs, has prompted many of the "original bloggers" to become greedy and place ads all over their sites - whoring different products.
I have a blog for my website that is used mainly as a comments forum. It has been very useful for me to get into keyword searches.
I refuse to whore ads from companies to take advantage of some system where I don't merit the money. I advertise on the main site with advertisers that I have contacted and told them the benefit of our synergy.
Another reason I don't use Ads by Google or a shared banner type ad placement is because Google and "Click Ad Companies" don't police spyware and ad ware banners and websites. I don't want anyone reading my website or visiting my commerce site to be associated with any of that.
Ummm... the point of the conversation is booting from an USB iPod Shuffle
iMacs CAN NOT boot from a floppy. Only Beige G3s can boot from a floppy. Beige G3's did not have USB on board - therefore - you cannnot boot from a USB device.
Obviously when someone brings in an LC2 from 1990 that they want fixed, I'm not going to charge my going rate of $60 an hour because with 1 hour/$ of time I can just buy 5 of them.
In this case - I tell them it won't be a priority but more of an "as I can get to it" project or I simply offer them an equal or better replacement unit for less.
I also charge based on what the customer can pay to possibly garner future business and word of mouth. Someone in need with little cash - they usually are your best advertising.
I have one customer that I charge $15 an hour to - but he sends me LOTS of business and buys parts from me regularly. He supports a family on a substitute teacher salary!
The catholic and episcopal churches are going through this now and they are essentially playing the role of Microsoft.
The catholic and episcopal churches (claiming to be the original church) are warning against a break in the church - saying it dilutes the congregation. They are threatening parishes with lease termination. Microsoft also claims that that some distributions are totally against many standards and warns of their "communististic nature" - just as the catholic churches complain about the protestant offshoots.
Interesting to see that Linux and Windows are being treated more like religion and less like commodity software.
So... who is going to be the Martin Luther of Software and nail a diocese to the Microsoft Redmond Front Door?
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Think Secret is NOT an Apple fan - in fact they often report negatively - partner with the resellers that are suing Apple - and do so at the expense of Apple buyers (stealing press thunder, building up expectations too high, and litigation/cease and decist concerns)
I think you are referring to the shield law, but that applies to criminal and federal cases where the journalist can prove he may be at harm or be casued damaged if they reveal sources (even then - it doesn't apply to federal cases)
The law that does apply here is the UTSA - Uniform Trade Secrets Act - it specifically says you cannot report or disseminate information you know or can easily research and know is trade secret.
Really, copyright law applies here too - Think Secret was posting copyrighted/Patented information (that was not yet available at USPTO.GOV)
No, they specifically explained that they would recreate David's mother from the strand of hair, able to pull her existence from the fabric of time, she would only be able to have memory of David in the present as her son because she had no other memory. David spent a few hours with her - creating memories FOR her in the timespace she was alotted.
Your moderation proves who's the dumb one I think.
The most accepted theory is that they were aliens - this was also touched on by Spielberg in interviews AFTER the "controversy" popped up on the internet.
Ha ... and I wonder how many of them have "only told their teddy bears" where the bodies are?
Yeah, yeah .... and in 10,000 years he'll pull out a strand of David's mother's hair and the aliens will briefly recreate his mother so he can be a real boy for a few hours ... Man, /. stories are just repeats from the past or repeats of the inevitable future nowadays.
(Teddy from the movie with Haley Joel Osment: AI: Artificial Intelligence)
Microsoft Robot is a Teddy Bear
... in your area.
... at least when searching for females. A lot of cities NATIONWIDE have ads that have local girls with SAME picture.
Match.com and especially Yahoo personals are MOSTLY fake
Personals have become mostly a playboy/user site for men and a solicitation/email harvest for women.
I saw a program on Scientific American Fronteirs yesterday showing how a guy had created solar panels that could be 90% damaged (with holes through it) and STILL produce useable amounts of electricity.
It was in this episode called Hydrogen Hopes
In 95, I was accessing the internet with a Mac. If Apple had won it's lawsuit in 96 we probably would have had streaming media and iTunes Music Store, possibly even faster broadband adoption YEARS before.
There's a possibility we may not even be discussing a security hole every day in the prevalent OS on Slashdot.
I guess he feels like he isn't a terrorist so he shouldn't be subject to scrutiny ... the thing is ... I have pondered that the next terrorist attack will be perpetrated by a white male - paid off by Al Qaida as an operative or sympathetic towards muslim extremism or possibly hatred towards politicians or Christians in this country.
So - he SHOULD be required to give his ID, and he should be happy that we are TRYING in at least SOME capacity to stop a disaster from repeating.
I'm concerned it's an MS WMF ...
Clarify this because I drew it.
"People are too wrapped up with what the law says..."
... statements such as this only prove it. A little money here and a little money here are equal to a little crime here, and a little crime there - they both add up over time.
Yes lawlessness has overwhelmed us
People who feel they can break the law in one way - will start to desensitise themselves to any law.
In the case of P2P - I am for file sharing - but I am not for sites that run paid services illegally or sites like SuperNOva who's main content was illegal downloaded software, illegally obtained and filmed movies, and other questionable content.
This said, people who think all downloads of everything its ok to rob people of their property and property rights are the same people who agree with imminent domain. You have to. You feel that property should be shared and that private property is yours for the plundering.
So, those who are often worried about their 1st ammendment rights - should take a look at the 4th ammendment. Seizure of private property by governments is happening everywhere - my thoughts - your robbing from someone because they are wealthy mentality.
"Opressed people throughout history..."
This is a good statement - but NO ONE is being opressed by not being able to listen to music in a certain way = digital download! Please don't compare our forefather's struggle death for civil rights to Napster - which acurately or not - is compared to Communism!
By the way - call people wealthy - not rich. Call people low income instead of poor. Poverty is a cliche - at least in the US.
This would be the most reasonable thing to do - since it seems like the legal bills for this kid will be paid or possibly donated in to - it serve to scare him and warn others this can't be done.
Apple is trying very hard to set legal precedents lately - no one will stop buying Macs because of some image - and if they do they are idiots.
People whining about public image are just hypocrits. I haven't seen people stop buying Kentucky Fried Chicken since the chicken abuse story came out a few months ago.
The Airport Extreme Card is in a mini PCI slot in all Apple laptops. The laptops will not accept any other mini PCI card.
So - I would imagine this is ALREADY more of a driver issue than a real BIOS issue + isn't there a ROM on the Mini PCI cards telling them to look for specific pieces of hardware to interact with???
Exactly ...
How many people base their decisions on how much they actually like the company?
Very few if any Coca Cola collectors refuse Pepsi if its the only soft drink choice.
Also, about a year back there was a guy in the Mac Community named Jack Campbell - he had the worst reputation in all that was Mac. Now, he runs a multi million dollar business. Nobody seems to care about his reputation when buying from him.
Link correction: here
An Apple Store was recently broken in to Pittsburgh PA.
The whole incident was caught on iSight webcams and used as evidence.
I recently helped with a setup of a system using an iSight Camera and a Blue and White G3 to help catch who was stealing laptops and other items out of the fridge at a local university.
Read the story here
The EFF also supports websites like: www.itunesisbogus.com - so this is no surprise.
... one doesn't necessarily have to pay someone $$ to bribe them. Anonymous ego boosting notariety is also payment to some.
I hate it when comments like this are made without a clue as to the real reasons Apple is seeing this a necessary step:
As long as Think Secret is not bribing or blackmailing people there should be no problem.
Extend the list of offenses that you think Apple has merit in this case to: solicitation.
Think Secret - apart from ALL OTHER rumor sites - specifically solicits information through a phone number. Therefore, enticing people to call.
What many of you are confused about on the bribery part is
Think Secret was inarguably one of the most hits websites around MacWorld Expo. In fact - it even broke the top 25 according Netcraft on 2 days.
Do you not think the people that gave the information to Nick Ciarelli were proud? Do you not think some of them felt important? Do you not think some of them are reading boards like this right now - revelling in the fact that we are discussing the very information they dealt out illegally - making them feel even more important???
I have brought this point up sveral times as well - I'm not sure if Think Secret/Nick Ciarelli are entirely all good intentions. It has always bothered me that they seem to be the first one with breaking news about the reseller lawsuits. These suits are completely without merit and come from two of the WORST resellers to ever hock Apple products or services EVER! (There's plenty of proof online - such as http://www.omino.com/~dom/readme/tomsantos.html)
Think Secret is no different than an underage porn site. It is illegal to publish it, yet there are plenty who are curious to see it.
One person had this to say on my website:
"...Think Secret (in achieving a degree of accuracy that can only be a result of people breaking their NDAs) becomes analogous to the old Head Shops, that sold drug paraphernalia. Nothing they actually sold was, strictly speaking, illegal. But the only uses for most of their products WERE illegal. And so Head Shops were made illegal, too."
And as a note, can we stop using similie and metaphor here - these are NOT - trade secrets - they are business plans, they are actual schematics, they are property. Some of us are trying to take meaning out of the words trade secrets like it's just a few words. This actual documentation that people hold that is privately OWNED information important to a business's success vs it's competitors.
FROM THIS POINT ON - you can be assured that rumor sites will be getting VERY close looks from the competition. In fact, I would be amazed if Creative didn't have a special position at the company now to find out future iPod information so they can beat Apple to market.
It's a pretty scary scenario painted, but one can hardly take a speech from 2001 as serious evidence these days
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It's a pretty scary scenario painted, but one can hardly take anything from John C Dvorak as serious evidence these days
I have noticed this myself.... most blogs are turning in to spamblogs.
Engadget (where slashdot gets a lot of its stories) is a great site, but the ad content has risen significantly over the past few months.
Blogs were originally meant to be diaries and driven by either pseudo journalism for fun or just a way to rant about topics the owner loved to talk about. In some cases, they were meant to be ways to keep in contact with friends.
The mainstream, embracing blogs, has prompted many of the "original bloggers" to become greedy and place ads all over their sites - whoring different products.
I have a blog for my website that is used mainly as a comments forum. It has been very useful for me to get into keyword searches.
I refuse to whore ads from companies to take advantage of some system where I don't merit the money. I advertise on the main site with advertisers that I have contacted and told them the benefit of our synergy.
Another reason I don't use Ads by Google or a shared banner type ad placement is because Google and "Click Ad Companies" don't police spyware and ad ware banners and websites. I don't want anyone reading my website or visiting my commerce site to be associated with any of that.
Ummm ... the point of the conversation is booting from an USB iPod Shuffle
iMacs CAN NOT boot from a floppy. Only Beige G3s can boot from a floppy. Beige G3's did not have USB on board - therefore - you cannnot boot from a USB device.
if you find a website with that info let me know - I know for a fact that USB 1.1 is NOT fast enough to boot using A CDROM or hard drive.
I base my prices on the customer.
I'm an Apple Technician/ Consultant:
Obviously when someone brings in an LC2 from 1990 that they want fixed, I'm not going to charge my going rate of $60 an hour because with 1 hour/$ of time I can just buy 5 of them.
In this case - I tell them it won't be a priority but more of an "as I can get to it" project or I simply offer them an equal or better replacement unit for less.
I also charge based on what the customer can pay to possibly garner future business and word of mouth. Someone in need with little cash - they usually are your best advertising.
I have one customer that I charge $15 an hour to - but he sends me LOTS of business and buys parts from me regularly. He supports a family on a substitute teacher salary!
I don't think Macs can boot off of USB 2.0. That would be one reason.
I understand Apple went with USB 2.0 to cater to the PC crowd, but making the drive firewire would have been revolutionary.
The Kangaru Fire flash drives KILL USB 2.0 in transfer speeds and CAN boot a Mac OR a PC.
A raid would have been possible otherwise.
The catholic and episcopal churches are going through this now and they are essentially playing the role of Microsoft.
... who is going to be the Martin Luther of Software and nail a diocese to the Microsoft Redmond Front Door?
The catholic and episcopal churches (claiming to be the original church) are warning against a break in the church - saying it dilutes the congregation. They are threatening parishes with lease termination. Microsoft also claims that that some distributions are totally against many standards and warns of their "communististic nature" - just as the catholic churches complain about the protestant offshoots.
Interesting to see that Linux and Windows are being treated more like religion and less like commodity software.
So
Microsoft dominating Apple in the operating system market wasn't really a David and Goliath Battle.
Apple was essentially the Google of the early 80's to late 80's.
Google overcame many GREAT & Powerful names - the main being Yahoo and Lycos to come out on top.
Apple overcame Compaq/HP/IBM (for a while) and was at the 50% of all computers sold for a certain period of time and far greater % in education.
Microsoft has the muscle now and has always had the brute force or dominating power to overcome anyone they set their minds on.
That said, I think Google has the name - MSN Search just doesn't roll off the tongue.