I would say a big, splashy network technology is even more cutthroat. If they want to try to make a windfall from 802.11n, then I'm sure there's a company out there right now working on a technology they'd like to submit as 802.11y or something, who aren't quite so greedy about it. I'm a capitalist, and I have no problem with people being paid for their work, but it's funny how when patents and royalties are involved the amount of pay they think they deserve suddenly becomes outlandish. File the stupid paperwork, request a royalty per device from manufacturers, and go home. Pigs get fat; hogs get slaughtered.
I definitely agree with this assessment. Also, don't miss Stranger In A Strange Land. It's probably had more of an impact on me than any book I've ever read, aside from maybe Atlas Shrugged (and I'm not a Randroid! I pick and choose the bits I agree with;)). However, "Stranger" definitely has more value in terms of impact per page.
Sadly I don't think I've ever bought a Heinlein book at actual price. I'm a big fan of used bookstores, and I've picked up all my Heinlein books at such places. Do used bookstores still pay royalties I wonder? At any rate, Heilein is not to be missed. I've always thought that simply pigeonholing him as "just Science Fiction" is like saying that Neil Gaiman's Sandman was "just a comic book."
Blah, part of my sentence got eaten: "But I'm sure if you tell the kind police officer that you have a pacemaker he'll be a sweetheart and not electrocute you."
(This isn't really in response to the parent, it's just part of the discussion.)
CS is Chlorobenzylidene Malononitrile. It's "non-lethal" in the sense that exposure can cause damage to the heart and kidneys, interstitial scarring of lung tissue, and miscarriages in pregnant women exposed to the gas (Journal of the American Medical Association). If the concentration is high enough and you happen to be in an enclosed space, it can kill you (Waco, Texas).
So obviously tasers are preferable, right?!? I mean, they're mostly harmless aside from randomly killing people that have any kind of heart defect, including something as simple as arrhythmia, which they may not even know they have. But I'm sure if you
"Less-lethal" weapons are a lie, and they're a way to assuage any potential guilt an officer might have about assaulting the citizenry ("Don't worry about it, this is harmless"). My father was a state police officer for years, and I've heard all the war stories. He had a nightstick, a.357 magnum, his fists, and his mouth. When your only non-verbal options are "Kill Them" or "Beat Them" you -have- to be good at verbal de-escalation techniques, ie: negotiation. You learn to talk people down, gain trust, establish rapport, so you don't have to maul them with the Big F'ing Stick. Nowadays police don't need to do that, because they can just use something "harmless" like CS gas, tasers, or "the pain gun" and the only response from the average person seems to be "They should have done what the police told them to do." Hello, Police State!
If the old man finds doing his job to be such an inconvenience, maybe it's time to retire and join the rest of the fogies in Shady Acres. Judges / Magistrates / Trial Commissioners / Whatever The Hell You Have In Jurisdiction X know very well that late night phone calls and police knocking on your door at 4am to get warrants or EPOs or what-have-you signed is part of the job. The stuff you see in police procedural dramas where the cops don't want to call Judge SoandSo because it would be a horror to wake him up is silly. To me, "not wanting to wake the judge" is a sign that the evidence for the warrant is paper thin, and they know he'll chew their ass for waking him up over nothing, when they SHOULD be waking him up over -something-.
I think you'd be surprised about this. To paraphrase a Heinlein quote from Time Enough For Love, "Specialization is for insects." I make my paychecks running a graphics workshop, but my family on both sides has a lot of hale and hearty country men. I grew up helping them do all that stuff, and that included everything from helping my grandfather build houses to running heavy equipment with my father. I have the technical knowledge that would let me work at several different levels in such a "model society." I could work at a very specialized level doing my current job, which would let me be a printer, or a computer specialist, or even simply making signs for shops in the society. However, those skills would very likely not be in demand in the "formative" stages of the society. Until such a time as they were, I could very easily employ myself as a building contractor.
I know other people-- and went to school with many of them-- who were going to law school or preparing for a career in medicine or education or any number of fields, who grew up on farms. If you've spent every year of your life stripping tobacco, tilling fields, baling hay, etc., you never really forget how to do it. This sort of thing isn't that uncommon, especially for people who come from a certain kind of family where higher education is a recent development, and not seen as something that belongs to your children by birthright. None of these people are even remotely close to stupid, but they don't have the kind of intelligence you're going to find in most of your college textbooks.
Finally, there's nothing that says these people would be doing double duty. The philosophy of revering creation and innovation in Atlas Shrugged applies just as much to one field as another. It was clear to me in my reading that you could be just as likely to find someone in Galt's Gulch who was innovating new ways of doing farm work to improve yields or maintain soil nutrition or something. It wasn't about being elite in terms of money or social class, it was about being one of the innovators who is driving society toward progress instead of just living off the fat of what you've already done.
I was one of the people who was far too enamored of Ayn Rand's philosophy when I first read this book, but as years have gone by I keep stripping away at it. Too much of her work was a reaction against Communism, which was a huge consideration at the time, and something that would've been at the front of her mind as a Russian expatriot. As such, I think a lot of the social attitudes are a knee-jerk anti-communist response. However, I think the stance she takes toward respecting people who work hard and who constantly seek ways to improve their work is unassailable. Too many people today are short-sighted, and don't care about expanding their skill set as long as they're getting paid. It breeds the kind of attitude where you think that just because someone is a wealthy industrialist, that they're not going to know how to cook food.
In Kentucky both Circuit and District Judges are appointed, as well as the newly created Family Court Judges. State Court of Appeals judges are likewise elected. Only our State Supreme Court judges are appointed (by the governor). Only federal judges are always appointed, regardless of court.
Why do people have such a hard time sticking to the issue? You honestly think even a 50% drop in network efficiency is okay, because the guy shouldn't be listening to MP3s on a work computer? That's his boss's problem, but audio device usage causing a drop in network speed could potentially be my problem too if I ever get stuck using Vista, and I think that's unacceptable. People have tried every frankly stupid excuse imaginable to rationalize or trivialize this, and none of them touch on the point that it's inexcusable that playing audio cuts your network speed (at least) in half.
I didn't realize that invading another country was the sole qualifier for being deplorable. There's the small matter of them oppressing their own citizens and religious minorities, as well as training partisans to send to Iraq, and funding Hezbollah. The US has made some pretty bone-headed mistakes, but having an interventionist foreign policy doesn't make you evil in and of itself. Read a history book and let me know how well our isolationist foreign policy worked out.
I'm not one to drink the neocon Kool-Aid, but your post is kind of ridiculous. Modern Iran is not the Persia of Cyrus the Great, emancipating Jews, building roads, and encouraging humanitarianism. American culture heralded the ideal that government should fear its citizens and that all men are created equal. Look at us now, and that's only been 200 years! The Persia you're talking about was 2500 years ago!
Yes, the Avesta says exactly what you say that it says. Do you know how many Zoroastrians are left in Iran? A little over 20,000-- half the number that were there before the Islamic Revolution. Why? Because they're being persecuted by the government, since, in the words of one of Khomeini's aides: "[Non-Muslims] cannot be called human beings but are animals who roam the earth and engage in corruption." (Source: "Zoroastrian Lawmaker Faces Slander Charges" http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009 215.php)
Finally, Iran does not need to fight an overt war of aggression, because we (the US) are a bunch of idiots who are accomplishing their goals in the region for them. By completely destabilizing Iraq and Afghanistan we've created a power vacuum that will give Iran's radical beliefs a place to spread, whereas before Saddam (Sunni) and The Taliban (Sunni) provided a natural foil for Iranian hegemony. They don't need a declaration of war when they can just train insurgents and send them into Iraq with supplies for their friends. They don't need a declaration of war when they can use their puppet Hezbollah to murder Iranian civilians.
It's a wonder to me how your post is modded +5 Insightful when it says nothing at all about Iran as it exists now, which is under a dictatorial regime who like saber-rattling at every opportunity about how Israel must be destroyed to pave the way for the 12th Imam. It's nothing personal, but I don't see how your post can be anything other than grossly misinformed, or a troll.
All of that said, I don't think we need to do anything. If wrecking two middle eastern countries didn't do us any good, wrecking a third one won't either. The PEOPLE of Iran are basically good, and want to be free as much as anyone else does. These aren't ignorant yak herders. Iran has several modern, cosmopolitan cities, as well as their fair share of intellectuals, artists, and dreamers. They are simply set upon by their own government, and that's a situation that can't last forever. I figure if we give it time the people of Iran will do just fine for themselves, and maybe this time the US and Britain will stay the hell out of it.
After three and a half editions of D&D, it's your own fault if you believed they'd never come out with a 4th edition that could potentially change everything. I don't mean to be harsh, but "come out with a new edition to make even more money" is a pretty common tactic from RPG manufacturers. End of life on your bookshelf? If you and your friends enjoy playing 3.5, then keep playing it.
Exactly. Every time I vote there's some little old lady two machines over that's been there the entire time I've been in line, and I still manage to wait my turn and finish before she does. I thought she was just old and slow, but all this time she's been protecting her identity by letting her timestamp get "stale."
This could be a cause for concern, but I don't see it being an eminent threat to my privacy.
The mildly unsatisfying answer I always got in European History classes was that it got defined Eurocentrically because the ancients had to cross water to get to Asia minor, such as the Greeks sailing the Aegean to get to Anatolia, or Eastern Europeans crossing the Black Sea. This was pretty much the path followed by the Asian silk trade, as well as the general path Alexander the Great took to conquer "the world." I suppose it's just evidence that civilized Europe never bothered to ask the Scythians about geography. Even then it's mildly unsatisfying, since you can pretty much spit across the Bosporus Strait in modern day Turkey.
As for why it continues to be that way, it's definitely cultural.
The system should use the popular vote and not the electoral college. How broken the EC is has been debated, but I think a change might not be a bad thing. (How can it be a good thing to have someone win an election that more people voted against then for?)
We are a republic of individual states. The Electoral College system makes sure that those states still have power. In a popular vote system, presidential candidates would only have to campaign in LA, Chicago, and NYC. The first two caucuses that can give a candidate enormous momentum are in Iowa and New Hampshire. How amazing is that? We had presidential elections turn on the outcomes of voting in Florida and Ohio. For me that's evidence that the Electoral College system works.
The population of my entire state is similar to the number of people just in the San Francisco metro area. That shouldn't make our votes worthless, guarantee that we never get a chance to meet candidates, or reduce or access to government. That's what will happen if you get rid of the Electoral College system.
I can't decide if it's an elaborate dance like a tango or more like those games where you place a cloth with numbers on the floor and you have to get into a pretzel with your hands and feet to touch all the right numbers.
That's the most bass-ackwards mangling of Twister I've ever heard. Didn't these people have childhoods!?
Fascism would be saying he HAS to explain it, which he does not. If it never comes out in the course of the trial and the jury finds it incredibly suspicious, and it's used as a reason to convict him, is that fascism? These are the kinds of things I'd be trying like crazy to explain if I were on the hook for murder. I obviously don't think the police should have the right to hook electric leads to his nipples and juice him until he answers the question. I love the Fifth Amendment as much as any red blooded libertarian. I'm just saying that, as a criminal defendant, you want to try to explain away the things that are making you look like a murderer.
When they served the search warrant on him he was carrying about 9 grand in cash and his passport. You don't think he may be a flight risk?
There could absolutely be a very innocent reason why he removed the passenger seat of his car, hosed down the upholstery, and had a bunch of heavy duty trash bags. So why won't he tell police? Why won't he come up with where the seat is? That alone makes me think he's probably guilty. His goth buddy is great for raising reasonable doubt, but I knew a bunch of emotionally damaged morons when I was around the goth culture who had only a fleeting hold on reality, and would gladly tell you they'd killed 8 people if it'd make them seem more cool and intense.
We all know (or may be) someone who's a socially awkward ubergeek just like Hans, and maybe we're a little defensive of those people because we hate seeing them get picked on, but that doesn't mean Reiser didn't kill his wife.
Isn't RAM volatile? Doesn't turning off the machine blank it out, such that whoever is seizing it is pretty much just getting blank RAM? I mean, this might be great if your law firm needs to update its workstations, but...
I'm sure this is probably a stupid question, and so I'm leaving off my karma bonus in case it's answer in TFM.;)
I play on the Nimrodel server, and I seem to remember reading a post on our server-specific forum at forums.lotro.com that there is an all Aussie/Kiwi kinship (guild). This would seem to imply that you can.:)
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I would say a big, splashy network technology is even more cutthroat. If they want to try to make a windfall from 802.11n, then I'm sure there's a company out there right now working on a technology they'd like to submit as 802.11y or something, who aren't quite so greedy about it. I'm a capitalist, and I have no problem with people being paid for their work, but it's funny how when patents and royalties are involved the amount of pay they think they deserve suddenly becomes outlandish. File the stupid paperwork, request a royalty per device from manufacturers, and go home. Pigs get fat; hogs get slaughtered.
I definitely agree with this assessment. Also, don't miss Stranger In A Strange Land. It's probably had more of an impact on me than any book I've ever read, aside from maybe Atlas Shrugged (and I'm not a Randroid! I pick and choose the bits I agree with ;)). However, "Stranger" definitely has more value in terms of impact per page.
Sadly I don't think I've ever bought a Heinlein book at actual price. I'm a big fan of used bookstores, and I've picked up all my Heinlein books at such places. Do used bookstores still pay royalties I wonder? At any rate, Heilein is not to be missed. I've always thought that simply pigeonholing him as "just Science Fiction" is like saying that Neil Gaiman's Sandman was "just a comic book."
Blah, part of my sentence got eaten: "But I'm sure if you tell the kind police officer that you have a pacemaker he'll be a sweetheart and not electrocute you."
(This isn't really in response to the parent, it's just part of the discussion.) CS is Chlorobenzylidene Malononitrile. It's "non-lethal" in the sense that exposure can cause damage to the heart and kidneys, interstitial scarring of lung tissue, and miscarriages in pregnant women exposed to the gas (Journal of the American Medical Association). If the concentration is high enough and you happen to be in an enclosed space, it can kill you (Waco, Texas).
.357 magnum, his fists, and his mouth. When your only non-verbal options are "Kill Them" or "Beat Them" you -have- to be good at verbal de-escalation techniques, ie: negotiation. You learn to talk people down, gain trust, establish rapport, so you don't have to maul them with the Big F'ing Stick. Nowadays police don't need to do that, because they can just use something "harmless" like CS gas, tasers, or "the pain gun" and the only response from the average person seems to be "They should have done what the police told them to do." Hello, Police State!
So obviously tasers are preferable, right?!? I mean, they're mostly harmless aside from randomly killing people that have any kind of heart defect, including something as simple as arrhythmia, which they may not even know they have. But I'm sure if you
"Less-lethal" weapons are a lie, and they're a way to assuage any potential guilt an officer might have about assaulting the citizenry ("Don't worry about it, this is harmless"). My father was a state police officer for years, and I've heard all the war stories. He had a nightstick, a
See topic.
If the old man finds doing his job to be such an inconvenience, maybe it's time to retire and join the rest of the fogies in Shady Acres. Judges / Magistrates / Trial Commissioners / Whatever The Hell You Have In Jurisdiction X know very well that late night phone calls and police knocking on your door at 4am to get warrants or EPOs or what-have-you signed is part of the job. The stuff you see in police procedural dramas where the cops don't want to call Judge SoandSo because it would be a horror to wake him up is silly. To me, "not wanting to wake the judge" is a sign that the evidence for the warrant is paper thin, and they know he'll chew their ass for waking him up over nothing, when they SHOULD be waking him up over -something-.
I think you'd be surprised about this. To paraphrase a Heinlein quote from Time Enough For Love, "Specialization is for insects." I make my paychecks running a graphics workshop, but my family on both sides has a lot of hale and hearty country men. I grew up helping them do all that stuff, and that included everything from helping my grandfather build houses to running heavy equipment with my father. I have the technical knowledge that would let me work at several different levels in such a "model society." I could work at a very specialized level doing my current job, which would let me be a printer, or a computer specialist, or even simply making signs for shops in the society. However, those skills would very likely not be in demand in the "formative" stages of the society. Until such a time as they were, I could very easily employ myself as a building contractor.
I know other people-- and went to school with many of them-- who were going to law school or preparing for a career in medicine or education or any number of fields, who grew up on farms. If you've spent every year of your life stripping tobacco, tilling fields, baling hay, etc., you never really forget how to do it. This sort of thing isn't that uncommon, especially for people who come from a certain kind of family where higher education is a recent development, and not seen as something that belongs to your children by birthright. None of these people are even remotely close to stupid, but they don't have the kind of intelligence you're going to find in most of your college textbooks.
Finally, there's nothing that says these people would be doing double duty. The philosophy of revering creation and innovation in Atlas Shrugged applies just as much to one field as another. It was clear to me in my reading that you could be just as likely to find someone in Galt's Gulch who was innovating new ways of doing farm work to improve yields or maintain soil nutrition or something. It wasn't about being elite in terms of money or social class, it was about being one of the innovators who is driving society toward progress instead of just living off the fat of what you've already done.
I was one of the people who was far too enamored of Ayn Rand's philosophy when I first read this book, but as years have gone by I keep stripping away at it. Too much of her work was a reaction against Communism, which was a huge consideration at the time, and something that would've been at the front of her mind as a Russian expatriot. As such, I think a lot of the social attitudes are a knee-jerk anti-communist response. However, I think the stance she takes toward respecting people who work hard and who constantly seek ways to improve their work is unassailable. Too many people today are short-sighted, and don't care about expanding their skill set as long as they're getting paid. It breeds the kind of attitude where you think that just because someone is a wealthy industrialist, that they're not going to know how to cook food.
In Kentucky both Circuit and District Judges are appointed, as well as the newly created Family Court Judges. State Court of Appeals judges are likewise elected. Only our State Supreme Court judges are appointed (by the governor). Only federal judges are always appointed, regardless of court.
Why do people have such a hard time sticking to the issue? You honestly think even a 50% drop in network efficiency is okay, because the guy shouldn't be listening to MP3s on a work computer? That's his boss's problem, but audio device usage causing a drop in network speed could potentially be my problem too if I ever get stuck using Vista, and I think that's unacceptable. People have tried every frankly stupid excuse imaginable to rationalize or trivialize this, and none of them touch on the point that it's inexcusable that playing audio cuts your network speed (at least) in half.
I didn't realize that invading another country was the sole qualifier for being deplorable. There's the small matter of them oppressing their own citizens and religious minorities, as well as training partisans to send to Iraq, and funding Hezbollah. The US has made some pretty bone-headed mistakes, but having an interventionist foreign policy doesn't make you evil in and of itself. Read a history book and let me know how well our isolationist foreign policy worked out.
"Iranian civilians" should read "Israeli civilians."
I'm not one to drink the neocon Kool-Aid, but your post is kind of ridiculous. Modern Iran is not the Persia of Cyrus the Great, emancipating Jews, building roads, and encouraging humanitarianism. American culture heralded the ideal that government should fear its citizens and that all men are created equal. Look at us now, and that's only been 200 years! The Persia you're talking about was 2500 years ago!
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Yes, the Avesta says exactly what you say that it says. Do you know how many Zoroastrians are left in Iran? A little over 20,000-- half the number that were there before the Islamic Revolution. Why? Because they're being persecuted by the government, since, in the words of one of Khomeini's aides: "[Non-Muslims] cannot be called human beings but are animals who roam the earth and engage in corruption." (Source: "Zoroastrian Lawmaker Faces Slander Charges" http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/00
Finally, Iran does not need to fight an overt war of aggression, because we (the US) are a bunch of idiots who are accomplishing their goals in the region for them. By completely destabilizing Iraq and Afghanistan we've created a power vacuum that will give Iran's radical beliefs a place to spread, whereas before Saddam (Sunni) and The Taliban (Sunni) provided a natural foil for Iranian hegemony. They don't need a declaration of war when they can just train insurgents and send them into Iraq with supplies for their friends. They don't need a declaration of war when they can use their puppet Hezbollah to murder Iranian civilians.
It's a wonder to me how your post is modded +5 Insightful when it says nothing at all about Iran as it exists now, which is under a dictatorial regime who like saber-rattling at every opportunity about how Israel must be destroyed to pave the way for the 12th Imam. It's nothing personal, but I don't see how your post can be anything other than grossly misinformed, or a troll.
All of that said, I don't think we need to do anything. If wrecking two middle eastern countries didn't do us any good, wrecking a third one won't either. The PEOPLE of Iran are basically good, and want to be free as much as anyone else does. These aren't ignorant yak herders. Iran has several modern, cosmopolitan cities, as well as their fair share of intellectuals, artists, and dreamers. They are simply set upon by their own government, and that's a situation that can't last forever. I figure if we give it time the people of Iran will do just fine for themselves, and maybe this time the US and Britain will stay the hell out of it.
After three and a half editions of D&D, it's your own fault if you believed they'd never come out with a 4th edition that could potentially change everything. I don't mean to be harsh, but "come out with a new edition to make even more money" is a pretty common tactic from RPG manufacturers. End of life on your bookshelf? If you and your friends enjoy playing 3.5, then keep playing it.
Exactly. Every time I vote there's some little old lady two machines over that's been there the entire time I've been in line, and I still manage to wait my turn and finish before she does. I thought she was just old and slow, but all this time she's been protecting her identity by letting her timestamp get "stale."
This could be a cause for concern, but I don't see it being an eminent threat to my privacy.
And when you stare long into the abyss, the abyss stares also into you...
That when you assume you make an ASS out of some guy named Umé.
The mildly unsatisfying answer I always got in European History classes was that it got defined Eurocentrically because the ancients had to cross water to get to Asia minor, such as the Greeks sailing the Aegean to get to Anatolia, or Eastern Europeans crossing the Black Sea. This was pretty much the path followed by the Asian silk trade, as well as the general path Alexander the Great took to conquer "the world." I suppose it's just evidence that civilized Europe never bothered to ask the Scythians about geography. Even then it's mildly unsatisfying, since you can pretty much spit across the Bosporus Strait in modern day Turkey. As for why it continues to be that way, it's definitely cultural.
The system should use the popular vote and not the electoral college. How broken the EC is has been debated, but I think a change might not be a bad thing. (How can it be a good thing to have someone win an election that more people voted against then for?)
We are a republic of individual states. The Electoral College system makes sure that those states still have power. In a popular vote system, presidential candidates would only have to campaign in LA, Chicago, and NYC. The first two caucuses that can give a candidate enormous momentum are in Iowa and New Hampshire. How amazing is that? We had presidential elections turn on the outcomes of voting in Florida and Ohio. For me that's evidence that the Electoral College system works.
The population of my entire state is similar to the number of people just in the San Francisco metro area. That shouldn't make our votes worthless, guarantee that we never get a chance to meet candidates, or reduce or access to government. That's what will happen if you get rid of the Electoral College system.
It's like E#m, only a few steps higher. Or lower. You know, depending.
I can't decide if it's an elaborate dance like a tango or more like those games where you place a cloth with numbers on the floor and you have to get into a pretzel with your hands and feet to touch all the right numbers.
That's the most bass-ackwards mangling of Twister I've ever heard. Didn't these people have childhoods!?
Fascism would be saying he HAS to explain it, which he does not. If it never comes out in the course of the trial and the jury finds it incredibly suspicious, and it's used as a reason to convict him, is that fascism? These are the kinds of things I'd be trying like crazy to explain if I were on the hook for murder. I obviously don't think the police should have the right to hook electric leads to his nipples and juice him until he answers the question. I love the Fifth Amendment as much as any red blooded libertarian. I'm just saying that, as a criminal defendant, you want to try to explain away the things that are making you look like a murderer.
COINTELPRO was the FBI, not the CIA.
When they served the search warrant on him he was carrying about 9 grand in cash and his passport. You don't think he may be a flight risk?
There could absolutely be a very innocent reason why he removed the passenger seat of his car, hosed down the upholstery, and had a bunch of heavy duty trash bags. So why won't he tell police? Why won't he come up with where the seat is? That alone makes me think he's probably guilty. His goth buddy is great for raising reasonable doubt, but I knew a bunch of emotionally damaged morons when I was around the goth culture who had only a fleeting hold on reality, and would gladly tell you they'd killed 8 people if it'd make them seem more cool and intense.
We all know (or may be) someone who's a socially awkward ubergeek just like Hans, and maybe we're a little defensive of those people because we hate seeing them get picked on, but that doesn't mean Reiser didn't kill his wife.
Isn't RAM volatile? Doesn't turning off the machine blank it out, such that whoever is seizing it is pretty much just getting blank RAM? I mean, this might be great if your law firm needs to update its workstations, but...
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I'm sure this is probably a stupid question, and so I'm leaving off my karma bonus in case it's answer in TFM.
I play on the Nimrodel server, and I seem to remember reading a post on our server-specific forum at forums.lotro.com that there is an all Aussie/Kiwi kinship (guild). This would seem to imply that you can. :)