Sounds like what they're doing is a lot like the Whitebox guys. I can see no indication of threats on their part. I've never used either so they might not be even close to the same thing.
Personally, I'd have found his answers perfectly acceptable if not for MS's marketing machine...
For instance, he claimed Windows only has a lower TCO in some specific instances. Then why does MS make blanket TCO statements? Windows has a disclaimer that shields it from any responsibility, just like Linux. Then why does MS claim accountability as a solid reason to choose Windows? I would've liked to see a bit more follow-up.
Then compare what you'd get on a well-made restore CD from a Windows vendor.
Isn't using a distro the equivalent of someone else setting it up for you, just not actually taking the last step of installing it?
... What? This whole damn conversation has been about 'ease of installation'! The "just not actually taking the last step of installing it" is exactly the part we're talking about! All of the software is already set up for your machine. That's why you only have to pop in a disk or 'apt-get install' stuff... it's *all* already set up to work with your crap but not installed.
I don't know where you're getting your restore disks but the ones I've seen haven't installed crap. The dozen Dells we got here at work only included original media... a disk for Windows XP SP2, a disk for NAV, a disk for MyDVD, a disk for PowerDVD, and a disk for MS Office SB. Not even disks for spyware, graphics editing, anything development, etc. My friend's Dell? Same story, original media. The Sony desktop system my wife's uncle bought ~1 year ago came with a restore disk that reinstalled the OS but came with seperate disks for NAV and WordPerfect. Methinks the Sony DVD player crap might've been in the restore though. Point is, no one gives out a 'customized WinXP distro' *at best* they give you a fairly vanilla XP restore with drivers and some disks.
On a seperate note, NO, it's not valid to compare a vendor supplied restore disk to a Linux distro first and foremost because it's locked to that hardware. Try running the restore disk after you've upgraded the hard drive? Oops, must've forgot about the secret 'restore partition'. Changed the CD-ROM, doh! Must be installed on factory CD-ROM. I can't think of a single tech that would say 'good thing they gave us a restore disk instead of the orginal media or this might've sucked'.
Viruses in Linux are rare, but shouldn't you still install a virus checker, like f-prot?
... riiight. Then let's go through the steps to uninstall Outlook Express to eliminate arbitrarly insignifigant threat X.
All you're saying is that you like the bundled applications in FC3's linux distribution better than Windows XP, right?
No, I was detailing the process I must go through to set up each OS before handing it over to the end-user... in this case, my wife. That is the software she needed to function appropriately. But grandparent was talking about expediency of installation so I'm up for it.
If you liked the the MS bundled apps (Windows Firewall,Wordpad,WMP,Outlook Express,Paint/Photo Editor,MSN Messenger)...
Most of which are extremely deficient and insecure. It's not a matter of disliking Outlook Express, it's a matter of 'my wife will screw up her machine and I will have to fix it' if she uses OE. Most distros don't toss in just a single vendor-favored version of application x, they toss in every capable app they can find in the category and you make the call. You're argument would be a little more valid if they bundled 3 capable word processors, 4 capable email apps, 5 chat clients, etc. No doubt this may overwhelm the non-initiated and if that was the argument we were in, then fine, but were talking ease of installation and those are quite easy to install. Seriously, looking at the list I included only the most basic set of software everyone has (or should have). It's not like I was ragging on a bunch of arbitrary crap noone uses. I noticed you took off Adaware/Spybot. Are you honestly trying to tell me you'd drop spyware removal tools from the list of common software for Joe User?
it's not fair to compare a vendor's distribution of Linux with a clean install of Windows XP.
Why? It's what you get on the CD that you install from. Ok, let's not use Fedora... let's use any popular distribution... Suse? They include more software than Fedora. Mandrake, about the same. Debian, that's an odd animal but that disks my coworkers have seems to be full of various crap.
If you bought from a windows vendor, like HP or Dell, they would do the latest OS updates, and you could purchase and have them install anti-virus, firewall, media software, cd burning software, adobe PS elements, etc, and they'd be ready to use when you boot it up.
Not once in my life have I or my wife bought a system from any of those places. Besides, if you're talking about something someone else sets up for you then you're not talking about ease of installation.
I dare say if you had to install an empty version of Linux (OpenOffice, Firefox, etc, NOT bundled) vs. a Windows XP CD, you'd have a much easier time getting up and running with the Windows XP CD.
This statement says to me you haven't used Linux in any large capacity. Almost every distro comes with a way of installing software just by picking it from the list. You give me a Fedora with nothing on it, no apps, no office, I install apt/synaptic, check the shit I want, and hit apply. A few minutes later all of the software I want or need is installed. Mandrake? They use URPMI. Gentoo has emerge. Debian has the original apt. Synaptic even has the software sorted into categories with descriptions of every program. That's not a real scenario anyway. An 'empty version of Linux' would be a kernel that does nothing. There's a reason RMS is always shouting 'GNU' in front of Linux... you:) Give me a distro without any GNU tools and I'll give you a Windows without Explorer.
I don't believe I've had that problem. While we've never gone quite to 8kx8k my wife regularly opens 9x12s @ 600dpi (only 5400x7200) it seemed to handle it fine even on her shitty 533 mhz Celeron.
I've done this recently on the wife's computer. Here was the complete process:
1. Install XP and activate it. 1a. Optionally turn off blue and green crap 2. Windowsupdate it. 3. Install Firefox. 4. Find and install video driver. 5. Reboot 6. Find and install scanner driver. (optional reboot) 7. Find and install printer driver. (optional reboot) 8. Install Grisoft AVG. (antivirus)
*set up full scan and updates 8a. Optionally install ZoneAlarm or Sygate Personal Firewall 9. Reboot 10. Install Adaware. 11. Install Spybot. 12. Install Thunderbird. 13. Install OpenOffice. 14. Install Adobe PS Elements. 15. Install Gaim. 15a. Optionally install WinAMP or other non-intrusive media player. 16. Finally, full-scans on AVG, adaware, and spybot to get rid of the cruft that appeared after 3 minutes of IE usage. -- may require one more reboots 16a. Optionally install other software (DVDDecrypt/Shrink, VideoLAN Client, card games, etc)
Compared to a recent Fedora Core 3 install: 1. Install FC3. 2. Install atrpms apt-kickstart 3. apt-get dist-upgrade 4. apt-get install nvidia-graphics 5. Copy/modify xorg.conf 6. re-'init' or reboot 6a. (optinally install xine, mplayer, ogle, perl-videoDVDRip, madwifi, xmms... with a single command)
I tried to be fair here and not assign optional tasks their own task numbers.
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Maybe I'm confused but I don't think capturing TV off of your PVR-350 will affect your DVD playback.
I don't think we're disagreeing on the point you're making. A missile defense shield would be excellent. It would be well worth the money spent on it.
The problem is we are spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a system that by almost all accounts doesn't provide any defense. The correct thing to do is invest in research and development so we can build a real working missile defense system and eliminate most of the 'fails to shoot down the missiles' part. Investing in light water reactors and placating the would be nuclear powers is a cheaper way of buying time until we can develop the systems.
What has happened is we went and pissed of the world, called a bunch of people a lot of bad things and now the threat of nukes on our back porch is a reality long before our defenses are ready. We're pumping out a broken missile defense system long before it's usable as part of our bluff. That money could have been better spent and our foreign policy better judged.
You never know - all the hitech weapons systems developed before the first Gulf War seemed to work pretty well.
You mean these people:
On April 7, 1992 Theodore Postol of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Reuven Pedatzur of Tel Aviv University testified before a House Committee stating that, by their independent analyses, the Patriot system had a success rate of below ten percent, and perhaps even a zero success rate. (from
Wikipedia)
The same people that knew WMDs were in Iraq? I think I'll have to demand proof over a 'maybe' when it amounts to massive amounts of money or American lives.
I think the way to deal with the proliferation problem is to build a missile defense shield.
As stupid of idea as I think missile defense currently is (you invest in research before you start building shit... we're just blowing our money on rockets that can't hit the broad side of a barn) I would love have seen 200bil on missile defense instead of 200 bil + 100k lives on an invasion.
That should be our new tactic. We'll let 'em have all their nukes but they must allow Walmart and Kroger to open stores across their land. We'll rot 'em from the inside out!
Rather than demanding that the US become poor so that the poor don't feel deprived, don't you think it would be better to make everyone rich?... We eat better food, we see better spectacles, we live in warmer homes. The US has made its citizens rich. Why not do that for the world?
I'm afraid that's not in the budget this year. We'll do that first thing you mentioned instead.
I was under the impression that Trolltech did have a GPLed version of Qt for Windows. I thought it was the one included in their GUI programming book (the book is at home so I can't look it up myself). I also seem to recall at least a few projects stating that if you contacted Trolltech and notified them that you were working on an open source project and would like Qt for Windows, they'd give it to you for free (although maybe under a different license?).
People have been suggesting Azureus but I was under the impression that Shareaza was not a bittorrent client. Anyway, if you're looking for a decent non-bittorrent client, try mldonkey (backend) with Sancho (frontend).
I've been agreeing with you the whole time. Nintendo did an awesome job at preventing piracy. I'm just arguing that in the most recent console wars, a little piracy a litte sooner might've sold them some consoles and maybe a game or 3 on the side.
Dude... what you previously posted was intentionally and obviously wrong. You didn't even bother to inform yourself in this recent post either.
I saw the Audio editing software, and overkill for someone that just wants to copy their old record over, and does it even have any options for cleaning the audio? on top of that, there are so many dependencies that it makes my head spin.
So there wasn't enough Audio software in your previous post and now there's too much? I guess I can't compete with that. For future reference, Audacity, a program you used in your own example, works well for recording from an analog source... like a record.
Mencodeer doesn't exist, the rest either the interface sucks or no screenshots. And Linux doesn't support video capture other than from a lousy Hauppauge Video Card that crashes after so many seconds of video capture, no matter what OS is used.
Sorry, it's 'mencoder'. And I have no idea where you're getting your video capture information. BT8x8 cards, the most popular capture chips are well supported. The more advanced hardware encoders are also supported very well. Capture over firewire works very well but since you couldn't find screenshots of Kino (nice methodology, btw) you wouldn't be aware of that.
Artstream is now gone, possibly forever; X-Paint is a ripoff of Microsoft Paint that comes with Windows, hell, NeoPaint for DOS can do more than that. Photogenics is for both windows and Linux so that means only 1 good image editing Application for Linux, the Gimp has a lousy interface. And Yes, Photoshop may run in Linux under wine, but, how stable is it, and how much configuring does someone have to go through just to get it at least somewhat runnable?
So if something runs on both Linux and Windows it doesn't count for Linux? I gave those examples because it included a simple image editor, an advanced and well supported image editor, and the venerable Gimp. Photoshop 7 runs damn near flawlessly under wine with wine's default config. If you can install the rpm, you can run PS7.
Thunderbird and Mahogany are the only two that looked any good, but, they are also available for windows.
Wow... noone uses Mahogany but Evolution is so popular they're working on a Windows port. Thanks for doing the research before posting.
Any software for Linux similar to Quicken and Quickbooks that will allow someone to import the data from Quicken and Quickbooks?
Can't comment on that... Never tried any of them. I used GNUCash once upon a time but I don't think it's the same.
...no legal Linux DVD software...where Windows has software to play DVDs legally, and even illegal software that will allow someone to copy DVDs. There's only partial support for the Audigy and Live in Linux...
The Audigy line is supposed to be very well supported in Linux although I don't have first hand experience with it so I'll have to comment on it no further. In fact, in your entire 2 post rambling the single valid point I can pick out is the comment on DeCSS and DVD decryption. The fact of the matter is the licensing costs of a DVD decoder is so prohibitive that you probably will only find it in FOSS that has a huge bankroll with money to burn (like SuSe) behind it. It's a huge ripoff that's unfairly skewed to those making decent profits off of selling whatever is doing the encoding. It's not in the spirit of FOSS and it's not in the spirit of open standards. At this point, I'd prefer a vagabond distribution that give me DeCSS illegally than one that supports the creatons that try to lock away our culture for higer margins (btw, it's just as illegal to copy a DVD using Linux software as it is using Windows software). Regardless, point well taken... but we'll probably never be able to tackle it.
It's obvious that the problem isn't your inability to decrypt a DVD without a proper license... you just don't want to take the time
? Most DVD burners can burn mini-DVDs. If you don't have a DVD burner you won't be able to burn PS2 or XBox backups either...
Oh, I see what happened now. You were commenting on something without much knowledge of what you were talking about... my bad. Let me fill you in. With a modded Gamecube, BBA, and a PC you can copy off the games across a network much like you do on the XBox. That data can be burn directly to mini-DVD and play it right on your cube.
Wow... you're impressively uninformed. Have you even bothered to use Linux?
Audio Software for Linux, well, let's see, Audacity, that's it. Windows, Audacity, Goldwave, SoundForge, etc.
Check PlanetCCRMA once in a while. Personally, I personally use Ardour + Hydrogen + Jack often. You mentioned Audacity and there's a bazillion 'nothing special' recorders along the line of goldwave.
Video Editing Software for Linux, well, let's see, none that I can think of. Windows, Adobe Primere, Video Explosion Deluxe, Dazzle DVD Complete.
Kino, mencodeer, AVIDemux, DVD-Create...
Image Editing Software for Linux, The Gimp, and that's it. Windows, PhotoShop, Paint Shop Pro, NeoPaint as well as the Gimp.
Photogenics, X-Paint, Artstream, if course Gimp. If you really can't live without the comfort of Photoshop, 7 runs perfectly under wine.
Email Software, Thunderbird, none other that I can think of. Windows it's Thunderbird, Eudora, Outlook/Outlook Express.
I understand you're trolling and I'm just feeding you but if noone replies to crap like this average people might actually believe the shlop this guy says. If it weren't for games, there would be a lot more converts.
Pretty much, yeah. The gamecube pirate scene is a joke.
You mean 'was' a joke. The first real mod chip for the machine came out late last year and now with nothing more than a Gamecube, Broadband Adapter, and a PC you can rent and copy. Honestly, the GameCube probably would've done better if the pirates were able to get their hands on this device sooner.
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Sounds like what they're doing is a lot like the Whitebox guys. I can see no indication of threats on their part. I've never used either so they might not be even close to the same thing.
...put Axel Thimm on the payroll. If it wasn't for him I, for one, wouldn't be running Fedora.
Personally, I'd have found his answers perfectly acceptable if not for MS's marketing machine...
For instance, he claimed Windows only has a lower TCO in some specific instances. Then why does MS make blanket TCO statements? Windows has a disclaimer that shields it from any responsibility, just like Linux. Then why does MS claim accountability as a solid reason to choose Windows? I would've liked to see a bit more follow-up.
Then compare what you'd get on a well-made restore CD from a Windows vendor.
... What? This whole damn conversation has been about 'ease of installation'! The "just not actually taking the last step of installing it" is exactly the part we're talking about! All of the software is already set up for your machine. That's why you only have to pop in a disk or 'apt-get install' stuff... it's *all* already set up to work with your crap but not installed.
... riiight. Then let's go through the steps to uninstall Outlook Express to eliminate arbitrarly insignifigant threat X.
Isn't using a distro the equivalent of someone else setting it up for you, just not actually taking the last step of installing it?
I don't know where you're getting your restore disks but the ones I've seen haven't installed crap. The dozen Dells we got here at work only included original media... a disk for Windows XP SP2, a disk for NAV, a disk for MyDVD, a disk for PowerDVD, and a disk for MS Office SB. Not even disks for spyware, graphics editing, anything development, etc. My friend's Dell? Same story, original media. The Sony desktop system my wife's uncle bought ~1 year ago came with a restore disk that reinstalled the OS but came with seperate disks for NAV and WordPerfect. Methinks the Sony DVD player crap might've been in the restore though. Point is, no one gives out a 'customized WinXP distro' *at best* they give you a fairly vanilla XP restore with drivers and some disks.
On a seperate note, NO, it's not valid to compare a vendor supplied restore disk to a Linux distro first and foremost because it's locked to that hardware. Try running the restore disk after you've upgraded the hard drive? Oops, must've forgot about the secret 'restore partition'. Changed the CD-ROM, doh! Must be installed on factory CD-ROM. I can't think of a single tech that would say 'good thing they gave us a restore disk instead of the orginal media or this might've sucked'.
Viruses in Linux are rare, but shouldn't you still install a virus checker, like f-prot?
All you're saying is that you like the bundled applications in FC3's linux distribution better than Windows XP, right?
:) Give me a distro without any GNU tools and I'll give you a Windows without Explorer.
No, I was detailing the process I must go through to set up each OS before handing it over to the end-user... in this case, my wife. That is the software she needed to function appropriately. But grandparent was talking about expediency of installation so I'm up for it.
If you liked the the MS bundled apps (Windows Firewall,Wordpad,WMP,Outlook Express,Paint/Photo Editor,MSN Messenger)...
Most of which are extremely deficient and insecure. It's not a matter of disliking Outlook Express, it's a matter of 'my wife will screw up her machine and I will have to fix it' if she uses OE. Most distros don't toss in just a single vendor-favored version of application x, they toss in every capable app they can find in the category and you make the call. You're argument would be a little more valid if they bundled 3 capable word processors, 4 capable email apps, 5 chat clients, etc. No doubt this may overwhelm the non-initiated and if that was the argument we were in, then fine, but were talking ease of installation and those are quite easy to install. Seriously, looking at the list I included only the most basic set of software everyone has (or should have). It's not like I was ragging on a bunch of arbitrary crap noone uses. I noticed you took off Adaware/Spybot. Are you honestly trying to tell me you'd drop spyware removal tools from the list of common software for Joe User?
it's not fair to compare a vendor's distribution of Linux with a clean install of Windows XP.
Why? It's what you get on the CD that you install from. Ok, let's not use Fedora... let's use any popular distribution... Suse? They include more software than Fedora. Mandrake, about the same. Debian, that's an odd animal but that disks my coworkers have seems to be full of various crap.
If you bought from a windows vendor, like HP or Dell, they would do the latest OS updates, and you could purchase and have them install anti-virus, firewall, media software, cd burning software, adobe PS elements, etc, and they'd be ready to use when you boot it up.
Not once in my life have I or my wife bought a system from any of those places. Besides, if you're talking about something someone else sets up for you then you're not talking about ease of installation.
I dare say if you had to install an empty version of Linux (OpenOffice, Firefox, etc, NOT bundled) vs. a Windows XP CD, you'd have a much easier time getting up and running with the Windows XP CD.
This statement says to me you haven't used Linux in any large capacity. Almost every distro comes with a way of installing software just by picking it from the list. You give me a Fedora with nothing on it, no apps, no office, I install apt/synaptic, check the shit I want, and hit apply. A few minutes later all of the software I want or need is installed. Mandrake? They use URPMI. Gentoo has emerge. Debian has the original apt. Synaptic even has the software sorted into categories with descriptions of every program. That's not a real scenario anyway. An 'empty version of Linux' would be a kernel that does nothing. There's a reason RMS is always shouting 'GNU' in front of Linux... you
What? A bunch of human-monkey hybrids that will certainly vote Democrat?!
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Nah, the monkey's vote Republican
I don't believe I've had that problem. While we've never gone quite to 8kx8k my wife regularly opens 9x12s @ 600dpi (only 5400x7200) it seemed to handle it fine even on her shitty 533 mhz Celeron.
I've done this recently on the wife's computer. Here was the complete process:
1. Install XP and activate it.
1a. Optionally turn off blue and green crap
2. Windowsupdate it.
3. Install Firefox.
4. Find and install video driver.
5. Reboot
6. Find and install scanner driver. (optional reboot)
7. Find and install printer driver. (optional reboot)
8. Install Grisoft AVG. (antivirus)
*set up full scan and updates
8a. Optionally install ZoneAlarm or Sygate Personal Firewall
9. Reboot
10. Install Adaware.
11. Install Spybot.
12. Install Thunderbird.
13. Install OpenOffice.
14. Install Adobe PS Elements.
15. Install Gaim.
15a. Optionally install WinAMP or other non-intrusive media player.
16. Finally, full-scans on AVG, adaware, and spybot to get rid of the cruft that appeared after 3 minutes of IE usage. -- may require one more reboots
16a. Optionally install other software (DVDDecrypt/Shrink, VideoLAN Client, card games, etc)
Compared to a recent Fedora Core 3 install:
1. Install FC3.
2. Install atrpms apt-kickstart
3. apt-get dist-upgrade
4. apt-get install nvidia-graphics
5. Copy/modify xorg.conf
6. re-'init' or reboot
6a. (optinally install xine, mplayer, ogle, perl-videoDVDRip, madwifi, xmms... with a single command)
I tried to be fair here and not assign optional tasks their own task numbers.
Maybe I'm confused but I don't think capturing TV off of your PVR-350 will affect your DVD playback.
I don't think we're disagreeing on the point you're making. A missile defense shield would be excellent. It would be well worth the money spent on it.
The problem is we are spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a system that by almost all accounts doesn't provide any defense. The correct thing to do is invest in research and development so we can build a real working missile defense system and eliminate most of the 'fails to shoot down the missiles' part. Investing in light water reactors and placating the would be nuclear powers is a cheaper way of buying time until we can develop the systems.
What has happened is we went and pissed of the world, called a bunch of people a lot of bad things and now the threat of nukes on our back porch is a reality long before our defenses are ready. We're pumping out a broken missile defense system long before it's usable as part of our bluff. That money could have been better spent and our foreign policy better judged.
You mean these people: The same people that knew WMDs were in Iraq? I think I'll have to demand proof over a 'maybe' when it amounts to massive amounts of money or American lives.
I think the way to deal with the proliferation problem is to build a missile defense shield.
As stupid of idea as I think missile defense currently is (you invest in research before you start building shit... we're just blowing our money on rockets that can't hit the broad side of a barn) I would love have seen 200bil on missile defense instead of 200 bil + 100k lives on an invasion.
That should be our new tactic. We'll let 'em have all their nukes but they must allow Walmart and Kroger to open stores across their land. We'll rot 'em from the inside out!
Mastery of programming languages shouldn't be a prequisite for studying computer science.
Absolutely correct. Otherwise, where would we get our PHBs?
I didn't realize that the administration even read Slashdot!
They gotta get their news from some place and they already admitted to not reading papers.
He can only be killed by the bone sabre of Zuma Kali!
Rather than demanding that the US become poor so that the poor don't feel deprived, don't you think it would be better to make everyone rich? ... We eat better food, we see better spectacles, we live in warmer homes. The US has made its citizens rich. Why not do that for the world?
I'm afraid that's not in the budget this year. We'll do that first thing you mentioned instead.
I was under the impression that Trolltech did have a GPLed version of Qt for Windows. I thought it was the one included in their GUI programming book (the book is at home so I can't look it up myself). I also seem to recall at least a few projects stating that if you contacted Trolltech and notified them that you were working on an open source project and would like Qt for Windows, they'd give it to you for free (although maybe under a different license?).
People have been suggesting Azureus but I was under the impression that Shareaza was not a bittorrent client. Anyway, if you're looking for a decent non-bittorrent client, try mldonkey (backend) with Sancho (frontend).
I've been agreeing with you the whole time. Nintendo did an awesome job at preventing piracy. I'm just arguing that in the most recent console wars, a little piracy a litte sooner might've sold them some consoles and maybe a game or 3 on the side.
Dude... what you previously posted was intentionally and obviously wrong. You didn't even bother to inform yourself in this recent post either.
...no legal Linux DVD software...where Windows has software to play DVDs legally, and even illegal software that will allow someone to copy DVDs. There's only partial support for the Audigy and Live in Linux...
I saw the Audio editing software, and overkill for someone that just wants to copy their old record over, and does it even have any options for cleaning the audio? on top of that, there are so many dependencies that it makes my head spin.
So there wasn't enough Audio software in your previous post and now there's too much? I guess I can't compete with that. For future reference, Audacity, a program you used in your own example, works well for recording from an analog source... like a record.
Mencodeer doesn't exist, the rest either the interface sucks or no screenshots. And Linux doesn't support video capture other than from a lousy Hauppauge Video Card that crashes after so many seconds of video capture, no matter what OS is used.
Sorry, it's 'mencoder'. And I have no idea where you're getting your video capture information. BT8x8 cards, the most popular capture chips are well supported. The more advanced hardware encoders are also supported very well. Capture over firewire works very well but since you couldn't find screenshots of Kino (nice methodology, btw) you wouldn't be aware of that.
Artstream is now gone, possibly forever; X-Paint is a ripoff of Microsoft Paint that comes with Windows, hell, NeoPaint for DOS can do more than that. Photogenics is for both windows and Linux so that means only 1 good image editing Application for Linux, the Gimp has a lousy interface. And Yes, Photoshop may run in Linux under wine, but, how stable is it, and how much configuring does someone have to go through just to get it at least somewhat runnable?
So if something runs on both Linux and Windows it doesn't count for Linux? I gave those examples because it included a simple image editor, an advanced and well supported image editor, and the venerable Gimp. Photoshop 7 runs damn near flawlessly under wine with wine's default config. If you can install the rpm, you can run PS7.
Thunderbird and Mahogany are the only two that looked any good, but, they are also available for windows.
Wow... noone uses Mahogany but Evolution is so popular they're working on a Windows port. Thanks for doing the research before posting.
Any software for Linux similar to Quicken and Quickbooks that will allow someone to import the data from Quicken and Quickbooks?
Can't comment on that... Never tried any of them. I used GNUCash once upon a time but I don't think it's the same.
The Audigy line is supposed to be very well supported in Linux although I don't have first hand experience with it so I'll have to comment on it no further. In fact, in your entire 2 post rambling the single valid point I can pick out is the comment on DeCSS and DVD decryption. The fact of the matter is the licensing costs of a DVD decoder is so prohibitive that you probably will only find it in FOSS that has a huge bankroll with money to burn (like SuSe) behind it. It's a huge ripoff that's unfairly skewed to those making decent profits off of selling whatever is doing the encoding. It's not in the spirit of FOSS and it's not in the spirit of open standards. At this point, I'd prefer a vagabond distribution that give me DeCSS illegally than one that supports the creatons that try to lock away our culture for higer margins (btw, it's just as illegal to copy a DVD using Linux software as it is using Windows software). Regardless, point well taken... but we'll probably never be able to tackle it.
It's obvious that the problem isn't your inability to decrypt a DVD without a proper license... you just don't want to take the time
Which LOTR game? Both the Third Age and Battle for Middle Earth seemed to be decently acclaimed. I've only played BFME but it's not a bad game at all.
? Most DVD burners can burn mini-DVDs. If you don't have a DVD burner you won't be able to burn PS2 or XBox backups either...
Oh, I see what happened now. You were commenting on something without much knowledge of what you were talking about... my bad. Let me fill you in. With a modded Gamecube, BBA, and a PC you can copy off the games across a network much like you do on the XBox. That data can be burn directly to mini-DVD and play it right on your cube.
Wow... you're impressively uninformed. Have you even bothered to use Linux?
Audio Software for Linux, well, let's see, Audacity, that's it. Windows, Audacity, Goldwave, SoundForge, etc.
Check PlanetCCRMA once in a while. Personally, I personally use Ardour + Hydrogen + Jack often. You mentioned Audacity and there's a bazillion 'nothing special' recorders along the line of goldwave.
Video Editing Software for Linux, well, let's see, none that I can think of. Windows, Adobe Primere, Video Explosion Deluxe, Dazzle DVD Complete.
Kino, mencodeer, AVIDemux, DVD-Create...
Image Editing Software for Linux, The Gimp, and that's it. Windows, PhotoShop, Paint Shop Pro, NeoPaint as well as the Gimp.
Photogenics, X-Paint, Artstream, if course Gimp. If you really can't live without the comfort of Photoshop, 7 runs perfectly under wine.
Email Software, Thunderbird, none other that I can think of. Windows it's Thunderbird, Eudora, Outlook/Outlook Express.
Evolution, Thunderbird, KMail, Balsa, GMail, Aethera, Mahogany...
I understand you're trolling and I'm just feeding you but if noone replies to crap like this average people might actually believe the shlop this guy says. If it weren't for games, there would be a lot more converts.
Pretty much, yeah. The gamecube pirate scene is a joke.
You mean 'was' a joke. The first real mod chip for the machine came out late last year and now with nothing more than a Gamecube, Broadband Adapter, and a PC you can rent and copy. Honestly, the GameCube probably would've done better if the pirates were able to get their hands on this device sooner.