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  1. Umm...HELLO?! Sniper rifle time! on High-Altitude 'Security Blimps' Coming Soon · · Score: 0, Troll

    Unload a few clips into that sucka, watch er' deflate! Although they'd have devices to handle such obvious problems like self-healing material. Still, a 3 foot hole from an RPG or "imrpovised rocket-propeled explosive device" would probably do quite a bit of damage, especially if the hole were on top.

    Remindes me of the little blimp from They Live, or the really big blimps from The Matrix.

    Anyone know what they'll be used for besides survelience? Like, mebbe, mind control rays or somethin?

  2. Re:Copyright, Organized Crime and Schools? on FBI Raids Arizona School District Over Copyright Infringement · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's actually kinda simple. They got us used to not having constitutional rights about 40 years ago through the DEA and drug wars, as well as criminalizing drugs so that now they can have control over the media through "copyright raids". Indeed, sharing data on how to hack stuff or songs with political motives such as Violent Work of Art are far worse than pot in their eyes, because it threatens them far more than, say, some moron who gets high all the time.

    It's a system of intimidation is what it is. They are poorly justifying having a bunch of armed cops come in and mentally rape a few hundred people through brandishing badges, guns, nightsticks and having em' look through their belongings. Not to mention what the kids are being taught; that some authority can come in at any time and search you however they want.

    Now, if you want to know what's actually scary about this one, is the fact that there's now a federal task force for copyright infringement. No longer is it just the copyright holders that defend their works, but now it's the goverment who goes in and busts up "operations". And if they can search an entire school district on that little amount of evidence, I wonder if they could get a warrent against a ISP serving a town and just go from door to door searching houses. Call me crazy, but before we were joking about the thought police, now we've got em'.

  3. Re:Which was first? on Mars Rock Supports Cross-Seeding Theory · · Score: 1

    Or mabye, just mabye, the stories and wisdom were passed down from generation to generation and the bible was constructed out of similar stories? It's not hard to write a moral story ya know, even 2000 years ago. It might be that we are the martians. I'v also heard theories about how mabye the martians found some apes and said "w000, now lookie at that thing, lets bioengineer it!" and then wrote the bible to help it along, then fucked off into the universe.

  4. Re:Nice, but I feel like it's hopeless... on National TV Turn Off Week · · Score: 1

    And ya know who perfected the television? (Not invented, but got it working real good)

    The Nazi's!

    :O

    And what was the first thing ever broadcast on television?

    HEIL HITLER!

    :O

    The Nazi Scientists (who were smuggled across the atlantic after the war was over with vatican passes) are also responsable for other inventions such as the Microwave, Long range missile, and birthed modern marketing and psychology.

    Aside from stating the obvious tin-foil-hat laden conspiracy nut realites (which are half-realities from what I'v read, more like one set of truths and a bunch of inconsistancies), once you know what's going on you can easily unfuck yourself. I get really really mad at television now. GRR! I also noticed that after switching my mother over to the computer television instead of regular television, she watches less (and plays a lot more spider solitair and talks on the phone). Is this the same for HDTV?

  5. Re:Hackers dream... on Clear Channel Plans To Roll Out Digital Billboards · · Score: 1

    Not to mention what someone with a silenced pistol can do to a bunch of signs...or a pair of wire cutters.

  6. Hackers dream... on Clear Channel Plans To Roll Out Digital Billboards · · Score: 1

    Just think of the possibilities...now we can play tetris across the entire globe for all to see!

  7. Re:credibility? on P2P News Syndication? · · Score: 4, Informative

    Over time news sources build credibility. For example, I don't trust CNN to give me the whole truth about the Iraqi war, so I also goto AlJazeera. I tend to trust more for that kind of news since they're local and since the US has bombed them a few times for not helping the US's media and reporting what they're told. I don't see our US officials bombing CNN now do I? I wouldn't trust Aljazeera for technical advice since theirs is horrible (they said mydoom took up over half of the internet traffic).

    Not only that, but large reports and scienfitic reports, video's, and recordings are extraordinarily difficult to counterfeit. Many documents reach over 1000 pages if not more and many recordings are hundreds of hours long. Much of what's reported by thememoryhole.com , for example, can be trusted. Other things, like documents of Bush's or Kerry's service records are difficult to determine since they're much shorter and much more easily fudged with.

    Not only that, but anyone with $100 US can pick up a cheap digital camcorder. You can photoshop images, but it's far more difficult to photoshop a video of some Iraqi kid videotaping a bunch of americans blowing the crap out of their parents or police searching through a house with a search warrent to consficate your computer and then consficating all the electronic equipment in the house. Go onto a P2P app and type in "UFO", there are lots of home video's I doubt are faked (although some are, and it takes a keen eye to see it). Cameras and portable flash memory is getting cheaper, so much so that soon cameras the size of a minimaglite will be available with 12 hours of recording for a couple hundred bucks.

    And as some of the DRM technologies get incorperated into P2P apps (such as measures to ensure someone throwing something up is throwing that thing up has a name and an address and is the same person who can be trusted before) people can build trust relationships on websites and accounts.

  8. Re:One Word: on P2P News Syndication? · · Score: 1

    4 words: DMCA

  9. Re:Privacy Issues on States Link Databases to Find Tax Cheats · · Score: 1

    And what if you've got a kid, you work 2 shit jobs for 12 hours a day and can't make ends meet because of taxes, so you don't pay them? You then scrounge up the extra money to go through school so you can get an education and a better job?

    What's uncle sam gonna take? Your shoes? Throw you in prison for tax evasion and then throw your kids into an oprhanage or a foster family? 17k a year isn't that much really, and if you're cutting that down to 10 k a year with taxes, people have problems finding a place to live and paying for stuff. Yea, you're going to teach em' real good! That'll solve the problem!

    I'm not for the rich being overly taxed here, but I do think tax cuts for the poor are needed. A guy who's making 60k shouldn't be any more responsable for paving the roads than the guy who makes 20k, but the guy who makes 20k is just getting by. If the goverment wants to wage a war, who's gonna feel it the most? The guy who can't buy his nice widescreen television or the guy who can't feed his kids? You can make the arguement "Well, that's what he gets for not being prepared for life!", and you could very well be right. But frankly, it's in your intrest to not have a bunch of angry poor people around when you're driving your nice new shiney car, or hungry people on the street infront of your house as you cart groceries into your house.

    And lets not forget the moral impact; unparented kids are bad. Remember the kindergartener who shot another kindergartener? Yup, that's right, his mother barely got to see him thanks to having to work near 16 hours a day to pay back the welfare she got. Just be glad that wasn't your kid.

    The best solution is to close up the loopholes that let people evade tax in the first place. Then, implement a sliding tax system so those who make 12K pay less tax percentage wise than someone making 20k. At a certain point, there's a dropoff so the tax can't go any higher. Finally, we eliminate goverment programs that aren't essential (like fighting foreign wars) or are so corrupt that they should just go (like social security), and take some of the money we save from those programs and invest it in a less expensive reformed education system.

    Finally, cap the maximum size of a corperation allowed to do buisness within or with the united states at some value (I'd say 15 billion net worth, 5 billion maximum yearly income, adjusted to industry of course), and the maximum net worth and maximum yearly income (250 million net worth, yearly income of around 10 million). Not so much because I'm a socialist pig, but because when someone has 10 billion at their command plus another 60 in a company, they have a lot of mostly unregulated power they probably don't deserve and probably won't use right. What makes america go around is money, and if 1 person has enough of it they become the goverment or they can augment the goverment. Part of what caused the great depression was all the rich people pulling out their savings all at once; centralization of money and power tends to creat an instability and insecurity in that power. Not to mention what those billions would be doing back in the economy, and not to mention the wonders it'd do for killing monopolies(If an industry is worth 90 billion a year, can 1 giant take it all over if they can't grow over 15 billion net worth? No). Again, on a sliding income scale so someone making over 150k a year is paying more percentage wise than someone who makes 100k a year and someone making 100k a year pays more percentage wise than someone who pays 50k a year. These extra taxes can be used to subsidise buisnesses, although I think a change like that would have to happen very slowly or our economic stability would get shattered.

    We've also got to stop privitising things. When we pritivitise something, we lose control of it. When we lose control of it, then we delegate it and the company ends up charging us more for each and every delegation we make until we're paying more for our water and p

  10. Re:Calling Concerned Canucks on Canadian Minister Promises to Fix Copyright Law · · Score: 1

    And make sure to urdge them to read

    http://cyberlaw-temp.stanford.edu/freeculture.pdf

    The book explains the problems of copyright and what exactly is happening right now. It's also freely distributable. Lessing puts up a few good suggestions as to how the copyright system can be fixed to work properly, although it is written from an american point of view.

  11. Re:I wouldn't visit the United States on US Expands Fingerprint and Mugshot Program for Visitors · · Score: 1

    Obviosly you forget there's this thing, it's called totalarianism. In the U.S laws are becoming more and more outragous, if people knew about them, they'd be pissed. We live in a country where privitised prisons, payed for by the state, force their workers into working to pay for their meals and bed, and then see it fit to employ "3 strikes your out" programs. Each strike is rediculous, and in texas life in prison has been given for such haness acts as stealing a can of beer or a television. They also torture people so they rat out other inmates so as to increase their time in prison and thus, profits.

    No system is perfect, but that statement isn't going to justify officials spending less on schools so they can spend more on prisons. That also isn't going to justify a republicrat oligarchy. And it certainly isn't going to justify a slave-prison-industrial state either.

    Use your brain.

  12. Re:I wouldn't visit the United States on US Expands Fingerprint and Mugshot Program for Visitors · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Heh, you forget the logic they'll use.

    If you don't have your papers, then you're obviously a terrorist and it's into the slammer with you. That's how it'll work, you see the grounds for that being put into place today; make people afraid, strip away their rights one by one, catalouge and condition them like sheep. Once you've got them controlled enough and you've got absolute control of the media, begin the cleansing of ideals, er, winning of hearts and minds. If you're a blank on their system, you're not a citizen. If you aren't registered and you're on american soil, then you're a terrorist, and subject to the same treatment as the current round of people are getting at guantanimo, or not if they just decide it's too expensive to export you or make you an american citizen and shoot you.

    Of course, people will forget their papers all the time. There'll be "mistakes", because as we all know, you can't keep that many people in jail. Or people who burn their papers will be thrown into jail. So, of course, they're going to mandate RFID or some kind of mark that can't be taken off. And after everyone has RFID tags, then all the banks and commerce are going to switch over to that system since it's easier and more secure that way.

    Getcha mark of the beast ere', $10!

    Call me a troll if you must, but that's where it's going. The only reason it hasn't already happened is because this pesky internet thing is here and they can't stop it and moreso, more and more people are moving onto the internet and getting their info from alternative sources. Last year fox lost half of it's watchers, and CNN lost a good 25%. The internet takes that control away and helps to put people in power that should be in power.

  13. Re:Morally? on How India is Saving Capitalism · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yup. There's another thing as well; americans are acustomed to working 8 hrs a day and having time off. To an indian, 70 hr workweek at the kind of pay they're offering is a godsend.

    Point here is, managers shifted their loyalty a long time ago from their workers to the allmighty doller. Sure, if they get a good compeditive group of people they aren't going to give that up, but for everyone else getting fired every 4 or 5 years and switching careers every 10 is becoming the norm in corperate america. The idea is if you fire a guy who's worked for 5 years, you can find someone who can do the same job (like a out-of-college preppy type) for less. Do this on a massive enough scale and the guys who have 10, 15, 20 years experience also get paid less.

    This doesn't work. There's a reason job security is important in japan. The japanese believe that by keeping your workers for a lifetime, your workers will be productive because if the company does well, they do well. They know if they work hard and everybody else works hard, there'll be plenty to go around. There is no playing BS with the worker.

    It used to be that way with america. Everyone used to work hard because it was a moral thing to do. Then managers began playing BS with us. Then the mantra became not "I'm going to work harder" but "How little can I work and not get fired?" (as you're not going to see the fruit of your labor, the shareholders will).

    It's mostly middle-sized companies that outsource. Fortune 500 companies don't do that because companies that fsck the worker don't usually last long.

  14. Re:My hope in humanity yet again dimished on WTO Wants USA to Gamble Online · · Score: 1

    When the human condition is solved, it will not be the war of the worlds that will be faught, but the war of the mind and soul that will be waged; for freedom from oppression, for liberation from conditioning, for the right of control. The inner struggle for unity and power over oneself will intensify, and those who lose this struggle will be the ones who find death at the end of their road. The one's who win it will become as god; omnipotent, omnipresent, and above all, omniscient. -TyrranzzX

  15. Re:make us pay for relgious value! thanks! on WTO Wants USA to Gamble Online · · Score: 1

    I support the pro-abortion people for a good reason.

    They want the goverment the fsck out of our lives.

    And now the senate passed a law stating the fetus has certain human rights.

    Before long, other interests will get involved, and it'll be illegal not to have your kid chipped. It's for the baby's afterall, they'll never grow into adults.

    Yes, I think killing a fetus is killing a human being. Yes, abortion is a damn shame when our society can't control itself sexually. Condoms, birth control, diaphrams, abortion, day after pills, STD's running rampant; all the same part of the same problem. Married couples are a bit different, but for the rest of us unmarried folks abortion holds the key-release to our inner most sexual desires. After abortion is legalised, and many STD's are stomped out, wait for the public organized orgies.

    Lust is bad not because it's abusive to the body. The body is something that can be healed with modern technology. Lust is bed because it wears away the ability for people do decide not to be lustful. It's a mental and physical addiction that is all-consuming and will consume those looking for a release from their daily lives.

    In any case, gambling is the same thing. Casino's are in buisness because they fleece the hard working man's pocket through probability. When it's used in reverse, people are blacklisted. Not only that, but gambling, much like lust, is addictive and can be all consuming.

  16. Re:That's just you on Record Industry Sues 532 More U.S. File-Sharers · · Score: 1

    Lemme point out a few things here.

    First, the RIAA is a cartel. They engauge in price fixing and controlling product content, and moreso, they have a near monopoly on it in the USA. This is wrong.

    Secondly, congress has given them a copyright forever for the work they (for the most part) screw bands out of. This is done by extending copyright over and over again like our congress has done 11 times since 1927.

    These 2 things are bad, this essentially means that 100 years from today all your favorite music will still be under their control. Copyright was meant to increase the number of works in public domain, not kill public domain. P2P systems fix this problem nicely, although I would say they probably break the copyright system in the same fell swoop. What would you rather have, 1984 under copyright and therefore undistributable or no copyright system? Most people choose the ladder, because the former is unthinkable and inhuman. It wasn't too long ago that the printing press didn't exist and authors got off on someone coming over to copy their book.

    Finally, in order to handle the threat to their monopoly, they are engauging in racketeering. Racketeering is when I go upto you, say you hurt my dog and I'll sew for $5 billion, but say I'll settle for a measly $2,000. There's no proof whatsoever of wrongdoing in any of these cases, as only 1 or 2 of them have been faught outside of small claims court. Since the RIAA has the legal might to crush any one of these people, they pay up and settle.

    Not to mention the sueing of a 10 year old girl who thought what she was doing was legal and moral, and an 80 year old grandpa who didn't even own a computer. But that's besides the point.

    Because of these things I do not recognize the RIAA's copyright on anything. Our goverment is corrupt to the core on this issue and until the system is fixed properly we'll continue to see this kind of abuse. I do hope, however, that smaller bands who have the idea that they should be releasing their works into the public domain after awhile or the spirit of "Hey kewl, this mp3 rocks, I'm going to download the rest the support the band by buying a CD that has some k3wl art on it" will catch on. As I said before, P2P breaks copyright entirely since there's no way to enforce copyright on P2P systems. Something new will have to come up or we'll see the media industry collapse.

  17. Re:Or mabye.... on Microsoft To Be Fined E500M By European Union? · · Score: 1

    The ENTIRE source code.

  18. Re:Is not a trillion, what is it? on Debunking the Trillion-Dollar Space Myth · · Score: -1, Troll

    Inotherwords, Bush has yet another scam to get more money out of the taxpayers for him and his chums. The Bush administration will definatly go out and piss out all that money on contracts for his chums to give Nasa cruddy equipment.

  19. Or mabye.... on Microsoft To Be Fined E500M By European Union? · · Score: -1, Troll

    EU: Hi Bill, want another blowjob?

    Bill: Sure, I could go for one of those.

    *10 minutes later*

    EU: People don't seem like me giving you blowjobs :(

    Bill: So, lets go through some crazy legal proceedings, then slap my company with a fine we can make back in less than a year!

    EU: Brilliant!

    Backbone_My_Ass. The ONLY reason the EU is letting MS off the hook is that MS has the EU by the nuts; if the sourcecode got released, within a week windows would be unusable.

  20. Re:Awesome! on Video-Game Publishers Outsource Development · · Score: 1

    The World is in the effort of globalising; bringing 3rd world countries upto first world levels. This can't happen without foreign investment. Yes, unenployment is going to increase and the buying power of the american doller is going to decrease. The amount of money in investors pockets is going to increase. So long as our economy stays varied and compeditive and doesn't outsource every single part of itself we'll be fine. The great depression happened because 40% of the wealth of america was in .9% of the population, and because our economy was based primarily on consumer electronics and automobiles. Once people began pushing themselves to live outside their means, and the agriculture industry went bankrupt, the entire economy collapsed.

    I'll garountee to you that we'll see the same slowdown if the concentration of wealth continues. The flow of work in and out is good for both us and the indians; we buy their products, they buy ours and develop their country. In another 15 years they'll be demanding more american stuff and we'll be demanding more indian stuff.

    Americans don't like globalisation because they don't want to work their butts off for their pay, which is understandable because our corperate overlords don't have any respect for us, nor any honor to their word; they're street walking scum who'll screw anyone over for a buck.

    As for those of you who say "You've got to look for a job", most americans aren't willing to work for $15 an hour when they spent 6 years of their life at college and abroad learning their skills. There are a lot of bottom-feeders right now who'll take a person, pay them a measily amount of money and work them to death. I was talking with one of my teachers who made $70,000 a year working as a engineer, and he went into an interview who wanted him to work for $30,000; this guy had been working as an elecrical engineer for 30 years, that's right, 30. How do you tell a person who does their job right and works hard, who has all that experience that now they have to work just as hard for half the money? He eventually found a job for $65,000, but still. I can understand the IT market being inflated during the 90's, but all these good hardworking, experienced workers who make up the backbone of our economy and middle class can't be told that they're going to have to become lower class because that's how it is.

    I'm just going to pray that demand rises with supply, and we don't get too many oversupplies. Oversupply is bad, very very bad. Overdemand is good, very good.

  21. Re:may I be the first to say on FCC to Regulate 'Profane' Speech · · Score: 1

    Aside from the obvious violation of first amendment rights....

    I'm not so angry about Howard Stern, as I'm angry about Who wants to Marry a Millionair? (Read: who's the biggest whore?) There's a problem when everyone watches tv and watches crap like that, rather than listening to the relitivaly intelegent stuff stern makes, the level of intellegence drops like a boulder in a pond. Sure, Stern is crazy, but thats a part of a bigger problem, namely that people excessivly watch television; it's unhealthy to watch that many ad's and shitty sitcoms. Watch a laugh track long enough and you're laughing along. It's about control and serving advertisers, not entertaining.

    Why does the FCC regulate profanity? Because we let it. Because they can, and because there's some belief that certain words are bad, and if they can holde onto those then they can eliminate other profain ideas, er, words. Thankfully there's this internet thing that they can't concievably ever regulate effectivly. Tv and radio are a dieing medium as are the dinosaurs who run it. The internet brings a new promise of forever disestablishing monopolies of information.

  22. Re:This worries me. on Fighting Terrorists Through Software, Anonymously? · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's also kinda sad that the voting public has the feeling that they can't do anything about it. You can say "well, that's what happens when you give up your rights.

    I can understand the angle of not wanting to lose your property and thus, being more willing to deal with crap (as most people are, if we got uppity at every turn in the road, the road would be jagged, torn, and probably wouldn't work that well). The past 6 or so presidencies have been really shitty IMO,; with each passing administration corruption increases; money is stolen, rights are taken away, and our country is torn apart brick by brick. Nixon, Bush Sr., Clinton, and now Bush Jr, all slowly taking away our rights accept for Bush Jr, who is putting a new definition to the term of "rocking the boat".

    Eventually something's gotta give. My prediction is that people are going to begin losing their incomes, and with those their livings. It was the robber-barons that caused the great depression, and eventually the stock market will collapse. I don't see buisness law becoming regulated any time soon like it was in the 50'a or 60's. Couple this with tremendous debt to other nations, a whole lotta weapons, a whole lotta enemies, devaluing currency, and corruption widespread in the high level goverment and in most lower level goverments and you've got a powder keg waiting to blow.

    Simply put, people will lose their patience. And with that loss of patience we'll see a revolution. The guys with the guns are already on the brink of it themselves.

  23. Ahh, another show do zone out on.... on A Law Show Set 25 Years from Now · · Score: 1

    Few care about rights they should have, and care more about rights they shouldn't have or don't need.

    Product of consumerism? Everyone eats food for taste and not for content and buys cloths for fashon not function. This leads people to poison themselves and wear clothing that lasts at most a year. Only makes sense that they'd care more about the right for a high school jock to use sterioids or the right to abortion rather than the right to discuss those topics.

    He're's to 2 years of not watching television or going to movies, and another 20 free of it if I have my life my way.

  24. Re:Very profound... on Smarter Children Through Food Supplements · · Score: 1

    There's another problem you forgot to mention. There's a difference between my generation, and my fahters generation. I was born as a mistake, my sister being the first of a series of them. My parents divoreced with I was 5.

    Compair me to the other preppy students who I am jealous of; they had 2 parents, a stable childhood, nice house, everything you could ask for. These people get A's in school, while the group of mistakes I sat around with were bored with school.

    Why? What causes us to be bored and them not to be bored? What causes them to call the work challenging and us to call that same work boring?

    I had to learn to cook my meals by the time I was 7. By the time I was 10, I was in band and I bowled. I had a Nes, Snes, and Genesis. My skill with videogames was indeed great, and to this day I still score higher and do more in team-based games that anyone else does. I can cook a pizza from scratch, make chicken alfaedo, cook a delicious honey ham, sew up my own clothing, repair computers, configure networks, do basic calculus, and I can argue politics more clearly than the preppy kids. I can also garden, and do a number of other tasks.

    The difference is that I was challenged. If your father was a model for god, and you're a mistake, and god abandons you or only visits you on the weekends, you must fend for yourself. Many feel it's better to piss on the mona lisa, shit on shakespear; better that god knows your name than ignores you completly.

    http://koti.mbnet.fi/reagan/lodger/ilove.html

    Watch that, that short movie is a reality for my generation of mistakes. School bores us, it doesn't heal the metal wounds, and it conditions and disables us. This may not be it's goal, but that's what it does. I'm out of school now, in college and after rejecting everything; parents, institutions, friends, I'm slowly reenabling those things that were disabled by relearning skills that I learned, and avoiding the abusive systems and institutions. Many kids in my generation are in pain like I was, and my generation will be the most fantastically screwed up and fantastically smart of all humanity. I know people who can do anything, find any information, use it to fix the most complex systems. It took the X-geners and baby boomers years to learn what it took me 6 months to learn. The citites will resemble babylon, filled with the people who were abandoned and know nothing of responsability, and those who have fixed ourselves will move together with those who were never broken and form our own society.

    That's how I see things.

  25. Re:never too late... on U.S. Plans Targeted Draft for Computer Personnel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I live in the USA, and the people here, although I don't trust them farther than I can throw them, are my responsabiliy as I am theirs. This is the basis of our society, and I'd die to keep this world going.

    There's a difference between this war, and WW2 and WW1. In both world wars, we were attacked. In WW1, our merchant ships were being sunk. People protested against the draft because the enemy wasn't attacking our shores. But nonetheless, we were attacked.

    In WW2, we had pearl harbor. We almost didn't need a draft with the amount of support for a war that generated. Even though the whole thing is suspicious, both my grandpa's faught, and my mothers father saw a lot of stuff in that war, he never talks about it. That's the price he payed to stop 3 tyrranies (Or rahter, a tyrrany, a dictatorship, and a bunch of crazy japanese people) who's ideas would've destoryed humanity as we know it.

    In vietnam, the only reason we faught was to stop the experiment known as communism and attack soviet russia on foreign soil, like we did in the middle east (and we created a bunch of dictatorships in the process). Our lives weren't in mortal danger, our economies in danger of being destroyed. Infact, there was no real reason for the vietnam war, and people refused to go through a draft.

    In a time of war, a draft shouldn't be needed. A Draft is there to take the fearful and pair them with the fearless. The fearless are the ones who run into combat and know what they must do. Nowadays, people are afraid. They view their own police force as a occupational army, and the police act that way. When there's such widespread distrust of the goverment and people begining to organize against that institution on a grass roots level, what do you think a draft will do?

    I can understand the need to take down those dicatorships, our fathers made mistakes and the sons will pay for their sins. Those dictatorships have grown to dislike the US, and their people hate the US and their dictators. That doesn't mean another generation must die and be wounded on the battlefield to institute another set of dictators or to make foreign lands ours.

    I'd fight to free those people, as I consider it my duty as a christian. But not under Bush, not under Rumsfield. Not with the FBI and CIA in existance, not with blood of crimes like MKULTRA and the bombing of the Liberty by Israel on their hands. I don't trust those people. Not if I know my kids, if I ever reproduce, will fight again on the same soil for the same reason.

    Protesting right now is getting bad, the media won't cover it but it's everywhere. New york for christ sakes revoked the Patriot act. Civil disobedience from cities is a bad thing for our republic, it serves to tear it apart.

    Say bush is re-elected, and a draft is instituted. Do you think a civil war will happen? I certainly hope not, but that's what it may come to. Nobody I talked to trusts our goverment, nor feels like they can do anything about it. What happens if a group rises up to unite these people? Gets them to come out of the woodwork and do what's right. Even our right to vote is under attack, that may be lost this election.

    People aren't stupid in america. Most of america is in the middle class, and they've got stuff they don't want to lose, things they don't want to rebuild. They are patient, it's a staring contest. The first to blinks looses.