You can get the old look in a couple clicks. And you're complaining about the bloat caused by a SKIN?!
No... if anything, it's the otherway around. Thr skinned media player is slowed down and bloated by the shitload of crap that comes with the main media player.
And generally, yes, new versions need a new looking UI. Otherwise most people would never know that they got a new version and would keep bitching about how long it's been since a new version of ___ came out (or how nothing's changed/improved in the new version.
And who'se fostered this kind of mentality in people? MS et al, that's who, releasing stupid new interfaces for each new version of their product. It's totally unnecessary in most cases, and really stupid to make that argument that this is necessary because 'otherwise people wouldn't upgrade'. They would, in fact, because it'd be installed on all new versions of Windows. But besides, who gives a SHIT if they don't upgrade? If they don't want to, they don't have to!
Indeed. I believe Microsoft made a pretty big mistake with the WMP 7 interface, so my first thought when I saw a screenshot of this thing was 'what an ugly piece of shit'. Seriously, having something that bloated, rivalling RealOne, could at last push me to try and find other players for my media.
Take a look at a comparison between what a lovely, no-nonsense interface WMP used to have, and what it is going to have pretty soon. Whilst I've never been a fan of the million-and-one ugly visualizations anyway, this is a great example of bloatware, with far, far too much being crammed into one piece of software, which should have a limited, defined functionality.
Why can't the default media player's interface be kept simple, as it used to be? Why does it have to take up the whole screen to be useable nowadays?
And does anyone know where I can find a decent media player for windows that supports all the formats of WMP10, but has the elegance of WMP6 (yes, I know about the 'classic' skin in WMP9 but will that be around forever?)? Mplayer, right?:-)
Why do you want to make Mozilla/Firefox look like IE? That's stupid. The default Firefox skin looks very nice, IMHO. If you want it to look like IE, go use IE. The buttons on the default Firefox skin are really very similar to those of IE's, and can be customized to be even more so.
I had a bunch of resumes out with my cell number on them. (And I really didn't want to punch my whole address book into a new phone!)
If you were with a GSM provider, I presume you could have kept your number when transferring to another provider via a PAC (Port Authorization Code). At least you can do that here in the UK - I recently did it.
As for putting the phonebook into a new phone, well... that's maybe a one-hour job at worst, and if you buy a new phone that has connectivity to a computer, you can probably start synchronizing the phonebook that way instead.
Why would you support a company that forces you to pay for its mistakes?
I've got a warezed version of Windows XP sitting here, and a key changer so I'm able to get security updates. I'm a home user, with only me using the box. I want to develop GUI software, and the best development suite I can find is Visual Studio. Um.. I got it warezed.
For me, it's not more expensive and it's easier to use. Well, gotta be honest;-)
Why don't you LAZY-ass Americans brew your own coffee? Why do you need to buy it from a goddamn coffee house? It's one of the easiest drinks in the world to make. Take disolvable ground coffee beans, add boiling water and (optionally) milk/sugar. But no, that's too difficult for you. You've got to get back to coding your cross-platform company automatic porn downloader.
So you mean, they don't always pronounce things in a particularly American way. That way of pronouncing process is, in fact, the standard way, used by people in Canada, Britain/Ireland, Australia and New Zealand.
Hardly. British English is picking up many an Americanism these days... 'if I would have chosen to go out'... (shudder). If you learnt American English and spoke it over here, things would be fine. I do, after all watch The Simpsons, and some other people watch Friends (shudder). Also, it depends where you learn it... in New England, the English spoken is very similar to that in England.
Actually, MS keyboards & mice have really gone downhill lately. Want a no-nonsense mouse without thumb buttons? Tough, all they do is a crappy one. Want a no-nonsense keyboard without a billion multimedia keys? Tough.
That's a GOOD thing and is standard for Unix window managers.
You assert that it'd good, I assert that it's crap. I'm not used to it and it seems to serve no real purpose - just a rather inferior alternative to minimizing.
I guess the most significant problem with X has to be the lack of programs that I'm used to. Firefox is great... but what about an e-mail client? I love the interface of OE, and Thunderbird isn't quite there yet. Decent text/program editor? Name something as good as the MSVC++ GDE. And file associations are wacky in Linux. Seemingly random association/non-association with programs. I remember using it, and I had 3 files of the same extension; two were associated with a text editor, the other wasn't, and the file browser just said it didn't have any application to open it with, and didn't provide me with any way to specify one! Windows Explorer might not be perfect, but it's the best file manager I've ever used.
Well, I guess it could have been slow because the machines it was on were crap (they didn't seem crap though). However, how can you say it's not unstandardized and unergonomic? Double clicking on an app titlebar just leaves the titlebar showing (last time I looked) - that's just dumb. You can use 5 different editors, and have 5 different ways of copy/pasteing. Unless you just use K apps, it's a bitch to use Linux in anything but console mode.
How about a *massively* improved GUI? I was using Linux the other day. It seemed slow, unstandardized, and unergonomic. It needs a complete overhaul, with some goddamn concrete standards. Anyone who says that choice between different WMs is a good thing is really rather mistake, IMHO. It only makes it virtually impossible for application makers to provide a consistent interface.
Bear in mind that Apple have refused to support the x86 architecture. Would people be more likely to move to a free OS that ran on their existing hardware, or a pretty expensive one that ran on pretty expensive new hardware?
a) If it hadn't been a fake, nytimes.com might be down at the moment? b) It depends what channels you frequent. The ones where I go, the people tend to use capitals and punctuation.
The NYT has an article on us being 'evil'! Just saw it on Slashdot, go see it:-P
<creat1ve> What?
<creat1ve> Damn.. they suck!!
<creative> hack-bot, DDOS nytimes.com
<hack-bot> Initializing DDOS
...
<l1ght> Haha, nytimes.com down:-) That'll teach them to badmouth irc, thank god for that Slammer virus that let us build up those zombies!
This seems strange. I fails to understand why, if a repressive government like Iran/China is blocking a ton of websites they disagree with, they would allow a US proxy site to go unblocked. Surely they could just block all access to anonymizer.com and the IP ranges used by its servers?
Humankind has lived for millenia with these things, and for the most part, we've been O-K.
Hell, people seem to have trouble remembering that it's very likely we developed from bacteria! Man's entire development throught the millenia has involved copious amounts of bacteria, all the way back to when we started out as bacteria, and developed slowly into more complex bacteria, then amoeba, etc...
I got a joke in e-mail last week about vagina's with teeth - I could only get to sleep that night by dismissing it as an impossibility. Don't they call them mouths?
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You can get the old look in a couple clicks. And you're complaining about the bloat caused by a SKIN?!
No... if anything, it's the otherway around. Thr skinned media player is slowed down and bloated by the shitload of crap that comes with the main media player.
And generally, yes, new versions need a new looking UI. Otherwise most people would never know that they got a new version and would keep bitching about how long it's been since a new version of ___ came out (or how nothing's changed/improved in the new version.
And who'se fostered this kind of mentality in people? MS et al, that's who, releasing stupid new interfaces for each new version of their product. It's totally unnecessary in most cases, and really stupid to make that argument that this is necessary because 'otherwise people wouldn't upgrade'. They would, in fact, because it'd be installed on all new versions of Windows. But besides, who gives a SHIT if they don't upgrade? If they don't want to, they don't have to!
Indeed. I believe Microsoft made a pretty big mistake with the WMP 7 interface, so my first thought when I saw a screenshot of this thing was 'what an ugly piece of shit'. Seriously, having something that bloated, rivalling RealOne, could at last push me to try and find other players for my media.
:-)
Take a look at a comparison between what a lovely, no-nonsense interface WMP used to have, and what it is going to have pretty soon. Whilst I've never been a fan of the million-and-one ugly visualizations anyway, this is a great example of bloatware, with far, far too much being crammed into one piece of software, which should have a limited, defined functionality.
Why can't the default media player's interface be kept simple, as it used to be? Why does it have to take up the whole screen to be useable nowadays?
And does anyone know where I can find a decent media player for windows that supports all the formats of WMP10, but has the elegance of WMP6 (yes, I know about the 'classic' skin in WMP9 but will that be around forever?)? Mplayer, right?
Why do you want to make Mozilla/Firefox look like IE? That's stupid. The default Firefox skin looks very nice, IMHO. If you want it to look like IE, go use IE. The buttons on the default Firefox skin are really very similar to those of IE's, and can be customized to be even more so.
I think you ment to say 'careful' there.
I had a bunch of resumes out with my cell number on them. (And I really didn't want to punch my whole address book into a new phone!)
If you were with a GSM provider, I presume you could have kept your number when transferring to another provider via a PAC (Port Authorization Code). At least you can do that here in the UK - I recently did it.
As for putting the phonebook into a new phone, well... that's maybe a one-hour job at worst, and if you buy a new phone that has connectivity to a computer, you can probably start synchronizing the phonebook that way instead.
I think the 'drunk blind sucker' would be giving something other than a fiver...
Ah, but does that have better fuel efficiency than the Ultimate Behemoth?
I don't want to be interrupted by a ringtone while watching Van Helsing
ANY excuse to get out of that movie would be better than nothing.
Why would you support a company that forces you to pay for its mistakes?
;-)
I've got a warezed version of Windows XP sitting here, and a key changer so I'm able to get security updates. I'm a home user, with only me using the box. I want to develop GUI software, and the best development suite I can find is Visual Studio. Um.. I got it warezed.
For me, it's not more expensive and it's easier to use. Well, gotta be honest
Why don't you LAZY-ass Americans brew your own coffee? Why do you need to buy it from a goddamn coffee house? It's one of the easiest drinks in the world to make. Take disolvable ground coffee beans, add boiling water and (optionally) milk/sugar. But no, that's too difficult for you. You've got to get back to coding your cross-platform company automatic porn downloader.
So you mean, they don't always pronounce things in a particularly American way. That way of pronouncing process is, in fact, the standard way, used by people in Canada, Britain/Ireland, Australia and New Zealand.
Gas here just broke $5.34 a gallon. :-) Guess where I live.
Hardly. British English is picking up many an Americanism these days... 'if I would have chosen to go out'... (shudder). If you learnt American English and spoke it over here, things would be fine. I do, after all watch The Simpsons, and some other people watch Friends (shudder). Also, it depends where you learn it... in New England, the English spoken is very similar to that in England.
Actually, MS keyboards & mice have really gone downhill lately. Want a no-nonsense mouse without thumb buttons? Tough, all they do is a crappy one. Want a no-nonsense keyboard without a billion multimedia keys? Tough.
That's a GOOD thing and is standard for Unix window managers.
You assert that it'd good, I assert that it's crap. I'm not used to it and it seems to serve no real purpose - just a rather inferior alternative to minimizing.
I guess the most significant problem with X has to be the lack of programs that I'm used to. Firefox is great... but what about an e-mail client? I love the interface of OE, and Thunderbird isn't quite there yet. Decent text/program editor? Name something as good as the MSVC++ GDE. And file associations are wacky in Linux. Seemingly random association/non-association with programs. I remember using it, and I had 3 files of the same extension; two were associated with a text editor, the other wasn't, and the file browser just said it didn't have any application to open it with, and didn't provide me with any way to specify one! Windows Explorer might not be perfect, but it's the best file manager I've ever used.
Well, I guess it could have been slow because the machines it was on were crap (they didn't seem crap though). However, how can you say it's not unstandardized and unergonomic? Double clicking on an app titlebar just leaves the titlebar showing (last time I looked) - that's just dumb. You can use 5 different editors, and have 5 different ways of copy/pasteing. Unless you just use K apps, it's a bitch to use Linux in anything but console mode.
How about a *massively* improved GUI? I was using Linux the other day. It seemed slow, unstandardized, and unergonomic. It needs a complete overhaul, with some goddamn concrete standards. Anyone who says that choice between different WMs is a good thing is really rather mistake, IMHO. It only makes it virtually impossible for application makers to provide a consistent interface.
Bear in mind that Apple have refused to support the x86 architecture. Would people be more likely to move to a free OS that ran on their existing hardware, or a pretty expensive one that ran on pretty expensive new hardware?
the artists are getting -1 cents? wow, that's a bad deal!
a) If it hadn't been a fake, nytimes.com might be down at the moment?
b) It depends what channels you frequent. The ones where I go, the people tend to use capitals and punctuation.
The NYT has an article on us being 'evil'! Just saw it on Slashdot, go see it :-P
...
:-) That'll teach them to badmouth irc, thank god for that Slammer virus that let us build up those zombies!
<creat1ve> What?
<creat1ve> Damn.. they suck!!
<creative> hack-bot, DDOS nytimes.com
<hack-bot> Initializing DDOS
<l1ght> Haha, nytimes.com down
This seems strange. I fails to understand why, if a repressive government like Iran/China is blocking a ton of websites they disagree with, they would allow a US proxy site to go unblocked. Surely they could just block all access to anonymizer.com and the IP ranges used by its servers?
Humankind has lived for millenia with these things, and for the most part, we've been O-K.
Hell, people seem to have trouble remembering that it's very likely we developed from bacteria! Man's entire development throught the millenia has involved copious amounts of bacteria, all the way back to when we started out as bacteria, and developed slowly into more complex bacteria, then amoeba, etc...
I got a joke in e-mail last week about vagina's with teeth - I could only get to sleep that night by dismissing it as an impossibility.
Don't they call them mouths?
Hrm.
Maybe the riddle should concern the quality of blowjobs?