The review failed to mention that the multiplayer aspect of this game took a HUGE step backwards from NOLF 1 by releasing a multiplayer component against an AI enemy instead of other human players. When people posted their complaints about this, Sierra's view was 'Then buy a game that has onpline players against online players.' After a while Sierra changed their stance by releasing DM maps with their first SP.
Also, this game is nothing special. there's no improvements over the first release of this game.
I'll never recommend this game to anyone.
It seems that this poll is the best of the worst of 2002.
Not trying to be a zealot, but I don't like blanket statements without qualification.
Most Linux desktop apps have not been very stable for me either, and what's worse, they don't FEEL stable.
I like it how people tend to make sweeping generalizations without actual examples. Have you tried more than 50% of all Linux desktop apps? Or is it the 1 of 2 that you tried that didn't work for you? While we're at it, how do you define "don't FEEL stable"? I have yet to see XEmacs and Phoenix crash, as opposed to Word, IE, and DevStudio.
MS Windows has a very solid, polished feel to it.
As opposed to... Gnome 2, KDE 3,...? They don't "feel" stable?
The bottomline is, right now I'm the most productive when working from an SSH session on my Windows desktop.
That's funny, because when I realized that most of my time is using SSH and remotely displaying apps with Exceed, I stopped using Windows.
First, while developing Java, I realized that DevStudio's java1.1 isn't going to cut it, so I started using XEmacs with JDK. Then I started developing by using SSH/Exceed and running remote XEmacs sessions developing C/C++ on BSD machines.
I installed Cygwin on my W2k box. I installed XEmacs for Windows, used cvs and gmake, gcc and gdb, et al. And then I thought to myself: why use Windows when all I'm really doing is re-creating a Unix environment on top of it?
So I stopped dual-booting and dumped Windows completely. I have all the things I used before, except with actual POSIX compatibility, I know that everything will compile, instead of just *some* things in Cygwin.
I notice a lot of 'I's being used here. I stopped dual booting...I installed...etc. The article noted above is not about you and your experiences.
The topic is about Linux in the Workplace and the use by non-technical, non-power users. Linux may work for you at work. That's great. More power to you!
The other 99% of the people in the workplace aren't/may not be hip to Linux. This is what is being discussed. This is why MS products are ahead in the field: Usability. Linux Products and environments In the workplace are not at the point where they can be used in the workplace because they aren't inuitive to the non-power (end) user.
However, there is one crutial point that is being missed here. The end user.
The average end user are not power users of operating systems like most everyone here on the list and they certainly are not going to wade through 300 pages of a manual such as the one noted above.
They want results and the want them now.
I don't know how many times I've had to manually edit an end users path, or re-set permissions on a home directory because they don't know how.
Also, if you transition a (non-Linux/Unix) user from a non-linux operating system to a linux operating system, they need to have some sort of quick 'feel-good' (for lack of a better term) familarity.
For example, in one of my past jobs, I had to transition a hardcore Mac user to a Linux Box with little to no re-education time (the higher ups pretty much dropped the new box on her desk). This user was not very technically savy and could not get any work done because they didn't know where anything was. They were familiar with the layout of their Mac.
Long story short, a co-worker adjusted the desktop to look like a Mac and the person was able to begin work. Needless to say we had many more calls from the user which focused on "I used to be able to do this on My Mac but I can't/how can I do this on Linux".
I hate to say this but if an end user is going to 'make the switch', you're going to have to come up with some non-technical information and some dummed down user transition education/information as well.
The actions of the RIAA over the past few years is a prime example of how people and companies are not changing and adapting to the information age from an Industrial Age mentality.
If the RIAA doesn't get with the program, they will be swept under the proverbial carpet of change and they won't be able to do a thing about it.
Sun's Java is slow as molasses and has the security of a slice of swiss cheese (full of holes).
Try downloading and installing Morpheus, the music sharing program. This program is written in Java and in the time that I gave it to test this program, I ended up giving a 'Sucks Ass' review because the code in the Java is so inefficient and slow. (Check out the download site and you'll see TONS of similar reviews).
Microsoft had the vision to remove Java from their systems because of the lack of stability and usefulness in their systems. If Sun had sat down like MS did and try to make the language more efficient you probably wouldn't see this case in court at all.
Also, in reply to a few different posts:
1) MS didn't kill Netscape. AOL did by continual focusing on the GUI (shop, shop, shop) and neglecting the backen of the browser. Get over it.
2) An Anonymous poster put a VERY exact and detailed argument about having either VB or Java replace C as a Standard Language. I have to totally agree with this for the exact reasons that the poster did. Sun Java (in it's current molasses state/form) is nowhere deserving of replacing C.
Saint Linus!?!?!? Blasphemy!!!
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There is only one Saint Linus and he was created by Charles Schultz.
Thou shalt not have other Saint Linus before the one true Saint Linus.
These sites (planethalflife, planetquake...etc)seem to excel in cruddy web pages.
Long loading times, ads that are too resource intensive and links that are never updated or removed are some of the items that make these sites some of the worst on the net.
These pages are a good example of how not to make a site.
They release buggy products (NHL 2002, NHL 2003, 007: NightFire for the PC) have support that is substandard (sub standard is too kind of a word), and re-use game engines and ideas from other companies.
These guys are getting sloppy and lazy. Some other company will come and dethrone them because of said sloppiness.
I still haven't forgiven Miller/Gibson for that pile of crap that was called 'Beyond Thunderdome'.
My biggest fear is that this movie will turn into a homoginized version of the original just as the Lethal Weapon series did as each sequel was released. Lethal Weapon 3 and 4 were the biggest piles of festering garbage ever created.
That's really interesting but when current trend for the Gaming industry is to re-use old game engines for new games, it's hardly a talent IMO.
Dolemite
Qrlx, you obviously haven't used the public transportation in LA. Try it some time. You'll think twice about Metro. Also, try riding the busses that say 'Express' on them. You can bypass local stops and head straight into the Buss Tunnel.
I agree Metro's Ride-Free Zone is a Rolling homeless shelter.
The problem with Seattle's traffic is the following:
1) The original road that became I-5 today was originally a road that was designed to have Seattle be a destination and not a stopping point for cities North/South of Seattle. This is the main reason why I-5 can't and probably will never be expanded.
2)Most of the traffic infrastructure in the Seattle area reached it's Maximum Capacity 15 years Ago. Ever Drive through Downtown Redmond? Case in Point.
3) The State Legislature Keeps Dragging it's feet on the topic of Transportation improvments state wide (Read: 520, 405/167 interchange, I-5/I-90 interchange, and 405 in general.) Last year Gov. Locke made the Legislature stay 90 extra days past their normal session for them to work on a Transportation bill.
Of course, you'll never read this in the Seattle area papers.
Voters in Washington need to send a message to the elected officials that if they don't solve this issue now, they will vote people who will!
However, the press of the Seattle area kept out some of the important issues that voters were not aware of
Sound Transit (A light rail system that goes from Tacoma to Seattle with a few stops in between) uses Burlington Northern Rail lines. Burlington Northern dictates the Sound Transit schedule on the frequency of the trains. In short, Sound Transit goes when long ines of Freight Trains are not using the rail lines.
Sound Transit did a very poor job of geological research in the proposed light rail lines. There are many sections of the original proposed lines that can't be dug or light rail can't be used. This is why the Monorail was proposed.
The Eastside of Lake Washington (basically all parts East of the Seattle area) wants no part of the paying of a light rail-monorail. Even though the traffic infrastructure on the Eastside of Lake Washington reached it's maximum capacity 15 years ago.
In short, this whole idea is not going to be beneficial to the Seattle/Tacoma Area as was originally was the goal but to a small number of people who live along the proposed route.
Chalk another assbackwards move for the State of Washington!!!
I want my 'L' damnit!!!!
Dolemite
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Because the Unix admins love to rag on any bad press that has to do with Microsoft.
Every OS on the market has it's strengths and weaknesses (Ever manually install an SGI box before? One of the worst setups I have ever seen in an operating system. That is if there aren't any bugs in the setup program.).
Of course you won't see that attitude here.
This has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard of.
Perhaps I can start a Sopranos Gang in the Sims Online Universe ans squeeze protection money out of the Chain owners.
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The review failed to mention that the multiplayer aspect of this game took a HUGE step backwards from NOLF 1 by releasing a multiplayer component against an AI enemy instead of other human players. When people posted their complaints about this, Sierra's view was 'Then buy a game that has onpline players against online players.' After a while Sierra changed their stance by releasing DM maps with their first SP.
Also, this game is nothing special. there's no improvements over the first release of this game.
I'll never recommend this game to anyone.
It seems that this poll is the best of the worst of 2002.
Not trying to be a zealot, but I don't like blanket statements without qualification.
Most Linux desktop apps have not been very stable for me either, and what's worse, they don't FEEL stable.
I like it how people tend to make sweeping generalizations without actual examples. Have you tried more than 50% of all Linux desktop apps? Or is it the 1 of 2 that you tried that didn't work for you? While we're at it, how do you define "don't FEEL stable"? I have yet to see XEmacs and Phoenix crash, as opposed to Word, IE, and DevStudio.MS Windows has a very solid, polished feel to it. As opposed to... Gnome 2, KDE 3, ...? They don't "feel" stable?
The bottomline is, right now I'm the most productive when working from an SSH session on my Windows desktop. That's funny, because when I realized that most of my time is using SSH and remotely displaying apps with Exceed, I stopped using Windows.
First, while developing Java, I realized that DevStudio's java1.1 isn't going to cut it, so I started using XEmacs with JDK. Then I started developing by using SSH/Exceed and running remote XEmacs sessions developing C/C++ on BSD machines.
I installed Cygwin on my W2k box. I installed XEmacs for Windows, used cvs and gmake, gcc and gdb, et al. And then I thought to myself: why use Windows when all I'm really doing is re-creating a Unix environment on top of it?
So I stopped dual-booting and dumped Windows completely. I have all the things I used before, except with actual POSIX compatibility, I know that everything will compile, instead of just *some* things in Cygwin.
I notice a lot of 'I's being used here. I stopped dual booting...I installed...etc. The article noted above is not about you and your experiences.
The topic is about Linux in the Workplace and the use by non-technical, non-power users. Linux may work for you at work. That's great. More power to you!
The other 99% of the people in the workplace aren't/may not be hip to Linux. This is what is being discussed. This is why MS products are ahead in the field: Usability. Linux Products and environments In the workplace are not at the point where they can be used in the workplace because they aren't inuitive to the non-power (end) user.
I totally agree with this.
However, there is one crutial point that is being missed here. The end user.
The average end user are not power users of operating systems like most everyone here on the list and they certainly are not going to wade through 300 pages of a manual such as the one noted above.
They want results and the want them now.
I don't know how many times I've had to manually edit an end users path, or re-set permissions on a home directory because they don't know how.
Also, if you transition a (non-Linux/Unix) user from a non-linux operating system to a linux operating system, they need to have some sort of quick 'feel-good' (for lack of a better term) familarity.
For example, in one of my past jobs, I had to transition a hardcore Mac user to a Linux Box with little to no re-education time (the higher ups pretty much dropped the new box on her desk). This user was not very technically savy and could not get any work done because they didn't know where anything was. They were familiar with the layout of their Mac.
Long story short, a co-worker adjusted the desktop to look like a Mac and the person was able to begin work. Needless to say we had many more calls from the user which focused on "I used to be able to do this on My Mac but I can't/how can I do this on Linux".
I hate to say this but if an end user is going to 'make the switch', you're going to have to come up with some non-technical information and some dummed down user transition education/information as well.
The actions of the RIAA over the past few years is a prime example of how people and companies are not changing and adapting to the information age from an Industrial Age mentality.
If the RIAA doesn't get with the program, they will be swept under the proverbial carpet of change and they won't be able to do a thing about it.
ROFL
My point Exactly. Morpheous, in its current java form, is a chunk-o-shit.
If NASA didn't have to use any more MS apps then there would be a victory for Linux.
I say no.
Sun's Java is slow as molasses and has the security of a slice of swiss cheese (full of holes).
Try downloading and installing Morpheus, the music sharing program. This program is written in Java and in the time that I gave it to test this program, I ended up giving a 'Sucks Ass' review because the code in the Java is so inefficient and slow. (Check out the download site and you'll see TONS of similar reviews).
Microsoft had the vision to remove Java from their systems because of the lack of stability and usefulness in their systems. If Sun had sat down like MS did and try to make the language more efficient you probably wouldn't see this case in court at all.
Also, in reply to a few different posts:
1) MS didn't kill Netscape. AOL did by continual focusing on the GUI (shop, shop, shop) and neglecting the backen of the browser. Get over it.
2) An Anonymous poster put a VERY exact and detailed argument about having either VB or Java replace C as a Standard Language. I have to totally agree with this for the exact reasons that the poster did. Sun Java (in it's current molasses state/form) is nowhere deserving of replacing C.
There is only one Saint Linus and he was created by Charles Schultz.
Thou shalt not have other Saint Linus before the one true Saint Linus.
These sites (planethalflife, planetquake...etc)seem to excel in cruddy web pages.
Long loading times, ads that are too resource intensive and links that are never updated or removed are some of the items that make these sites some of the worst on the net.
These pages are a good example of how not to make a site.
How is that not Disney? Because I'll be booking my next vacation to Walt Disney World and not EA world.
You have got to be frigging kidding me!
They release buggy products (NHL 2002, NHL 2003, 007: NightFire for the PC) have support that is substandard (sub standard is too kind of a word), and re-use game engines and ideas from other companies.
These guys are getting sloppy and lazy. Some other company will come and dethrone them because of said sloppiness.
We want new Space Ghost Episodes!!!!
Star Trek - Planet of the Hippies (Insurrection).
I still haven't forgiven Miller/Gibson for that pile of crap that was called 'Beyond Thunderdome'. My biggest fear is that this movie will turn into a homoginized version of the original just as the Lethal Weapon series did as each sequel was released. Lethal Weapon 3 and 4 were the biggest piles of festering garbage ever created.
Yes! Don't forget the space herpies! This movie rocks!!! Dolemite
That's really interesting but when current trend for the Gaming industry is to re-use old game engines for new games, it's hardly a talent IMO. Dolemite
The newer ones are so bad.
A trained monkey could come up with a better script than the last 7 movies (and the Star Trek Movies).
Star Trek - Planet of the Hippies (Insurrection) was so bad that I'm hesitant to see this movie.
Go to Apple's site to get a better viewing of the Trailer. http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/star_trek_ nemesis/
Qrlx, you obviously haven't used the public transportation in LA. Try it some time. You'll think twice about Metro. Also, try riding the busses that say 'Express' on them. You can bypass local stops and head straight into the Buss Tunnel.
I agree Metro's Ride-Free Zone is a Rolling homeless shelter.
The problem with Seattle's traffic is the following:
1) The original road that became I-5 today was originally a road that was designed to have Seattle be a destination and not a stopping point for cities North/South of Seattle. This is the main reason why I-5 can't and probably will never be expanded.
2)Most of the traffic infrastructure in the Seattle area reached it's Maximum Capacity 15 years Ago. Ever Drive through Downtown Redmond? Case in Point.
3) The State Legislature Keeps Dragging it's feet on the topic of Transportation improvments state wide (Read: 520, 405/167 interchange, I-5/I-90 interchange, and 405 in general.) Last year Gov. Locke made the Legislature stay 90 extra days past their normal session for them to work on a Transportation bill.
Of course, you'll never read this in the Seattle area papers.
Voters in Washington need to send a message to the elected officials that if they don't solve this issue now, they will vote people who will!
Also, geologically speaking, Light Rail can't be used due to the makeup of the proposed rail line.
I agree this is a Sad Day for Seattle, jhylkema.
However, the press of the Seattle area kept out some of the important issues that voters were not aware of
Sound Transit (A light rail system that goes from Tacoma to Seattle with a few stops in between) uses Burlington Northern Rail lines. Burlington Northern dictates the Sound Transit schedule on the frequency of the trains. In short, Sound Transit goes when long ines of Freight Trains are not using the rail lines.
Sound Transit did a very poor job of geological research in the proposed light rail lines. There are many sections of the original proposed lines that can't be dug or light rail can't be used. This is why the Monorail was proposed.
The Eastside of Lake Washington (basically all parts East of the Seattle area) wants no part of the paying of a light rail-monorail. Even though the traffic infrastructure on the Eastside of Lake Washington reached it's maximum capacity 15 years ago.
In short, this whole idea is not going to be beneficial to the Seattle/Tacoma Area as was originally was the goal but to a small number of people who live along the proposed route.
Chalk another assbackwards move for the State of Washington!!!
I want my 'L' damnit!!!!
Dolemite
LEGAL NOTICE: Spamming my account will subject the offender(s) to liability of $1,000 per message (RCW 19.190.030).
Because the Unix admins love to rag on any bad press that has to do with Microsoft. Every OS on the market has it's strengths and weaknesses (Ever manually install an SGI box before? One of the worst setups I have ever seen in an operating system. That is if there aren't any bugs in the setup program.). Of course you won't see that attitude here.
This has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. Perhaps I can start a Sopranos Gang in the Sims Online Universe ans squeeze protection money out of the Chain owners.
Don't forget to disable the Mail Relay Blocking in Sendmail as well. Mmmm. Trial By Fire Administration. Dolemite