One machine is the DNS server (RH 6.2) One machine is the mail/web server (running Windows 2000, even) One machine is the firewall (RH 6.2)
These machines still run to this day (we did replace the power supply in one of them though). Not bad machines at all, and they were like $189 each, floor models, no software, box, etc.
ISP that has about 700 users. Sure, not a big one, but the boss loved it. Cheap.
I was on a school district contract 2 years back...
Schools get incredible pricing on Windows and Office licenses. Something like $500 for Exchange 2000 and 1,500 CALS and $8 each for Office XP.
I'm not sure how much they've saved on MS licenses alone...Probably enough to get 3-button mice instead of 2-button mice.
They're most likely getthing their AMD 1600mhz, 20gb, 128mb systems (which, even though are quite powerful machines, pretty low-end for today's systems, and I'm not sure I'd enjoy KDE 3 that much with these guys, but when I got there we started buying Dells by the truck load (literally)
The old IT staff and the teacher who was involved in technology (some 19 year old pimple face, and some 75 year old mainframe stalwart) hated moving from white box pc's, and cried to the school board about Dell being propreitary and incredibly expensive......
My old boss always told clients he was a certified this, and certified that. He also claimed to work at AT&T/Ameritech/Michigan Bell.
Little did they know, he went to college for a semester or two and then sold computers at Sears, and then sold telephones at the phone company. He also wasn't certified for jack shit.
But, he could land some big fucking jobs. Small school districts, Townships, 50-200 person companies in town.
Sure, he fucked them over royally. He'd sign them up for 40hr/week "service contracts", then overbook ONE tech for 2 or 3 accounts. Pay a tech $12 an hour, have him cover some accounts at $50/hr, and you can see why he stayed in business. Overcharged them on everything, parts, labor, sold them things they'd never use, sold $20,000 servers where a low end box would do...
Moral of the story: Work on your sales techniques. Get some clients, then hire some VERY qualified techs (who's NOT looking a for a job these days, anyway?) and pay them peanuts. They'll work for peanuts, and if they complain, hire some other beggar. Besides, you can't afford to pay people $75,000 a year, because the economy sucks, right?
A game doesn't have to be an overhyped, over-produced, $2 million budget, 3D rendered, hunk of shit to be 'good'?
You're kidding me.
What I loved about the older video games, up until about the SNES era, was that game programmers could be innovative instead of concentrating on packing CD's full of graphics and 3D effects.
I read this recently, and although it's a pretty good introduction to the conman profession, I was a little disappointed in the lack of actual examples of clever hacking.
The book isn't called 'HAx0ring webPag3s in 21 Days' The book is primarily about social engineering.
Is that it is so hard to get one, without shelling out $2500 for a new one, or close to that for a used one. Even used G3 PowerMacs are pretty expensive, compared to a high-end PC of the same era.
I guess it's good for Mac users that the hardware holds value so well, but for hobbyists and people who can't pay the same for a computer as a used car...
Carmack has really done some great things in the 3D PC gaming industry. But I wouldn't give him all the credit as far as the full game is concerned.
The great art and music, killer levels, and fun factor that the rest of the iD team created are just as important.
As much as Daikatana haters would hate to hear, Romero was more of a driving force than Carmack. But then again, without Carmack's 3D genius....it's a catch-22
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Great post.
No Microsoft bashing, no debates about IP, distributions, no whining.
Serious, hard-core, geek shit.
Geek takes computer, does something incredible, writes up an wonderful web page, perfect.
*time travel back to 2000*
Ran over to Best Buy, bought 3 eMachines.
2 machines Celeron 366
1 machines AMD K6 400
One machine is the DNS server (RH 6.2)
One machine is the mail/web server (running Windows 2000, even)
One machine is the firewall (RH 6.2)
These machines still run to this day (we did replace the power supply in one of them though). Not bad machines at all, and they were like $189 each, floor models, no software, box, etc.
ISP that has about 700 users. Sure, not a big one, but the boss loved it. Cheap.
$1,499.00
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1GHz PowerPC G4
1MB L3 cache
256MB DDR266 SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA/100
Combo drive
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX
64MB DDR video memory
FireWire 800
56K internal modem
Bluetooth Ready
Sell this to me for $899. Please.
For $500 more you get 1.25GHz, dual processors, and a 80GB HD.
They just cost too much to justify buying, since I wouldn't be using it for DTP/other Mac stuff.
I hate big, cartoony, fisher price buttons, toolbards, text toolbars....I hate all that crap taking literally HALF of my screen up.
Right, and as we all know, the lameness filter doesn't work for crap.
You constantly see the same trolls posted over, and over, and over again.
I was on a school district contract 2 years back...
Schools get incredible pricing on Windows and Office licenses. Something like $500 for Exchange 2000 and 1,500 CALS and $8 each for Office XP.
I'm not sure how much they've saved on MS licenses alone...Probably enough to get 3-button mice instead of 2-button mice.
They're most likely getthing their AMD 1600mhz, 20gb, 128mb systems (which, even though are quite powerful machines, pretty low-end for today's systems, and I'm not sure I'd enjoy KDE 3 that much with these guys, but when I got there we started buying Dells by the truck load (literally)
The old IT staff and the teacher who was involved in technology (some 19 year old pimple face, and some 75 year old mainframe stalwart) hated moving from white box pc's, and cried to the school board about Dell being propreitary and incredibly expensive......
My old boss always told clients he was a certified this, and certified that. He also claimed to work at AT&T/Ameritech/Michigan Bell.
Little did they know, he went to college for a semester or two and then sold computers at Sears, and then sold telephones at the phone company. He also wasn't certified for jack shit.
But, he could land some big fucking jobs. Small school districts, Townships, 50-200 person companies in town.
Sure, he fucked them over royally. He'd sign them up for 40hr/week "service contracts", then overbook ONE tech for 2 or 3 accounts. Pay a tech $12 an hour, have him cover some accounts at $50/hr, and you can see why he stayed in business. Overcharged them on everything, parts, labor, sold them things they'd never use, sold $20,000 servers where a low end box would do...
Moral of the story: Work on your sales techniques. Get some clients, then hire some VERY qualified techs (who's NOT looking a for a job these days, anyway?) and pay them peanuts. They'll work for peanuts, and if they complain, hire some other beggar. Besides, you can't afford to pay people $75,000 a year, because the economy sucks, right?
Kevin Mitnick's laptop hard drive from eBay. He had stolen a couple thousand credit card numbers, didn't he?
A legitimate reason for having 5,000 CC #'s on 158 drives could be, maybe one of the drives was a web server for an e-commerce site?
A game doesn't have to be an overhyped, over-produced, $2 million budget, 3D rendered, hunk of shit to be 'good'?
You're kidding me.
What I loved about the older video games, up until about the SNES era, was that game programmers could be innovative instead of concentrating on packing CD's full of graphics and 3D effects.
I read this recently, and although it's a pretty good introduction to the conman profession, I was a little disappointed in the lack of actual examples of clever hacking.
The book isn't called 'HAx0ring webPag3s in 21 Days'
The book is primarily about social engineering.
Yeah, that's what it is supposed to be about.
The real reason we use monospaced fonts is so that we can all think we're coding on 80x43 or 80x25 terminal screens.
They're not expecting them back either - but what do I want with them?
eBay, my friend. eBay.
You'll get a couple bucks for them. Beer+Pizza money.
On the other hand, one of our marketing droids is always asking me to buy 5 packs of Zip 250's when I'm at the store.
What goes around, comes around...
Finally.
Now I don't have to copy my clients Adaptec DirectCD's to the network on a Windows machine before I can use them.
Why people mail me $3 CDRW's instead of $0.03 CDR's I'll never know.
More performance : OK.
But who needs this ?
Since the P3/500, any computer is powerful enough.
Sure, you can ride a horse to work too.
Seriously, it's very easy to max out a Pentium III-500MHz with PhotoShop.
It's one of those applications where you can never have enough CPU/RAM/Disk.
Sure, you can do plenty with a P3 500 but, faster is always better.
Is that it is so hard to get one, without shelling out $2500 for a new one, or close to that for a used one. Even used G3 PowerMacs are pretty expensive, compared to a high-end PC of the same era.
I guess it's good for Mac users that the hardware holds value so well, but for hobbyists and people who can't pay the same for a computer as a used car...
Well, go over to FuncoLand and buy one!
Use the store locator, they've been selling and buying used systems and games for quite a while.
Once in a while I'll buy an older system and a few games, then discover they weren't as fun as I remembered.
It's either that or start finding ROM's and emulators.
Carmack has really done some great things in the 3D PC gaming industry. But I wouldn't give him all the credit as far as the full game is concerned.
The great art and music, killer levels, and fun factor that the rest of the iD team created are just as important.
As much as Daikatana haters would hate to hear, Romero was more of a driving force than Carmack. But then again, without Carmack's 3D genius....it's a catch-22
Maybe you could print each PART of the printer.
Some assembly required.
Skill Level 3, ages 14 and up.
Is there an option in the program to limit how much available bandwith it uses?
This is Slashdot, isn't it?
Hack one up yourself
Who the heck buys the MP3 players with 32-64MB of memory?
It seems much too tedious to upload 1 tape's worth of music every time you want to listen to something new.
Yes, I do know that it was cost prohibitive in the past to have 1GB players....Novelty item I guess.
Cut a piece of posterboard to fit it.
Just like you used to do with the 3.5" mini CD's to play in your car.
You've never seen those start-your-own-business things with payphones?
Put them anywhere! tons of revenue!
Check it out!
50% of the games which have been created for PC
Something Awful has:
Game reviews
and
The ROM Pit
Don't say I didn't warn you.
When the RIAA/MPAA/whoever carts your ass off to jail for having MP3's of songs you don't own the CD's to....you'll wish you had encrypted your music.