No kidding. Which is why Amazon isn't actually PAYING the tax. It's COLLECTING the tax, which is actually paid by the person who lives in the jurisdiction... and who is presumably partaking of the services the tax is paying for. Better go back to the drawing board on this one.
Actually, it's doing neither. Which is how it should remain.
A corporation in state X has no obligation to play tax collector for state Y.
The government of state Y chose to pass an absurd, impractical to collect tax instead of biting the bullet and doing something practical but politically inconvenient like raising income tax rates, and they're paying the price. It's between them and their citizens, no one else.
Perhaps you were raised in a different culture than I. I was always taught that sharing and charity were voluntary, not owed, so I could certainly believe "Nobody owes anybody anything", give to charity and share with others, and still be morally consistent.
In fact, there are those who believe those things being voluntary makes them more meaningful.
According to this page, $50k is closer to a starting salary for NY & LA. (I choose them since it's their papers providing TFA.) If you've been teaching since the 80s and have a master's degree, NYC teachers head towards 6 figures pretty quick.
$80k may be more than the average for the majority of districts, but you choose the right one and not only is it totally achievable, there's a pretty good overlap with the state/local governments that tend to have budget issues.
The issue with taxing amazon is quite simple - governments have no business levying taxes outside their jurisdiction. If a citizen of say, California, directs goods to be brought into the state, state law says that individual is responsible for paying use tax, not the merchant from which they purchased said goods.
The music and video shops in your example have a presence in the local jurisdiction and benefit from its services such as roads, social programs, police/fire protection and so on. Amazon doesn't.
The point is, there's a difference between saying "Michael Vick should be allowed to play in the NFL, provided any team wants him" and "All references to his arrest, trial and conviction should be purged from the archives"
This guy did some stuff in his past that got him checked out by the feds, and people found out about it. It's up to potential employers to decide whether or not that is relevant to them. I may agree that the past should often just be left as the past, but I don't think that means everyone else has to share my opinion, or be denied the opportunity to form their own. (which is essentially what the OP wants)
"The government can't do anything right"; their track record is at least as spotty as the private sector. They simply fail in a different manner. For every DMV you name, I can name a half-dozen Enrons, Monsantos, SCOs, Blackwaters, $GENERIC_DOT_COMs, or Madoff fund managing company.
"Fail in a different manner" is the issue.
Enron is gone and no one will ever lose another dime to them. Madoff's going to rot in jail for the rest of his life.
When the government screws something up, it doesn't die and go away, it tends to get bigger and more expensive for the (increasingly small) portion of the population expected to pay for it.
I can stop buying food grown with Monsanto products. I can choose not to patronize or invest in poorly conceived internet startups. I can't (without serious social/legal/financial consequences) wake up and stop paying taxes.
Except....they don't owe anything above and beyond what they've been paying. You can be damn sure if WA had a case against MS for the NV licensing income, they'd be in court by now. This is just posturing and trying to drum up support for an extraterritorial tax, which is BS in my book. The income does not arise within their borders, therefore it should be none of their business. Just because the raw materials (Windows, Office et al. IP) are created in WA means nothing. The company that does the licensing is located in another jurisdiction.
When exactly did it become acceptable for governments to pull stuff like this? The US does the same thing with overseas profits of our corporations and individuals, and it's no better.
Extraterritorial taxes are a money grab, plain and simple. You want to tax the profits when they are repatriated? Fine. But money that arises outside of your purview and never enters it is none of your business. Using the fact that you have power over another area of a company's operations to force them into paying up on said monies is just wrong.
What I haven't seen mentioned yet are the differing prescription requirements for the various drugs mentioned. Hydrocodone "compounds" like the ones mentioned can be prescribed by a much larger class of professionals than can straight Hydrocodone/oxycodone/etc.
As the GP stated, the acetaminophen is put in the pills to reduce the "abuse potential" Since these are considered "less dangerous" (since they'll kill you before they get you very high.) the gov't lets them be given out more easily. So right now my dentist can prescribe Vicodin/etc. after a particularly nasty root canal, but if they take it off the market, he can't just write a script for the controlled substance part of the compound on its own.
Are you kidding? We already collect taxes on people who work/live in other countries, why should driving be any different?
US tax/law enforcement hasn't stopped at our borders for some time.
Here's the real question - if you hated programming so much, why didn't you switch to a major you liked? You note that many CS majors take your route, but really, it's no excuse. Those people are silly.
That said, if you find you like web development and DBA, my personal opinion is avoid the masters. The MS is *not* going to help you get an entry level position as a web dev or a DBA. You're risking overqualification here. (if you can even find a respectable MS in web development, that is.) A master's degree is not the magic bullet many people considering them think it is. And blowing (30k + living expenses? I don't know what a grad degree goes for in the UK) during questionable economic times on something that may or not pay off isn't a magic switch for your career either. You may find yourself a year or two from now with nothing but a ligher wallet and the same job prospects.
You say you want to make a clean break, do it. Start applying to positions in the field you're interested in, located in another city. Start doing some small projects on your own so you can provide some backup to your desires and prove a bit of competence in an interview. You're going to face a bit of a hurdle having gone School->unrelated job->Helpdesk, but if you can prove an interest in the job and the ability to handle basic related tasks and learn on your feet, you should have a pretty good shot.
You implied all the carriers save AT&T force handset manufacturers to agree to their terms. AT&T has forced apple to remove/cripple a number of apps for the iPhone as part of their business relationship.
Apple is a handset manufacturer. AT&T's terms are the blocking of apps which could result in a certain level of data usage on their network. AT&T forced Apple to agree to their terms as a condition of launching Apple's handset on their network.
While all major carriers engage in some level of feature-blocking, AT&T has been one of the higher-profile offenders of late. I'm not sure where you got the idea they were special.
Copy-on-write is at the block level, if I'm not mistaken, and given that data has to be written in blocks to block devices anyway it's not that big of a deal.
Requiring scripts is fine. Having a government database of them is not.
I'd much rather a few thousand addicts had an easier time getting their next fix than have my personal details on the open market. (I live in VA and have filled prescriptions at pharmacies here, so I can only assume my personal data is part of this breach.)
This incident (well, the threat of it) is pretty much the textbook argument against government databases. Too bad no one will pay attention when it actually happens.
Part of an invention is the process by which it operates and is constructed.
Patenting an "invention" that you have no ability to actually produce is no different than these companies who patented things like "an internet-connected gaming system with wireless controllers" but never built one, because they didn't know how, yet now feel sony, nintendo, MS et al owe them billions of dollars.
Even better, how about we stop encouraging/helping wild-eyed "entrepreneurs" who have these great ideas that are "probably patentable" but who are wholly incapable of actually inventing said devices.
Hell, I have an idea for a 400mpg car for the automotive market. It's probably patentable so I can't give details. I can handle the in-car dvd and entertainment system but have no automotive engineering or manufacturing experience. Does anyone have any recommendations for a company to handle the drivetrain design and manufacture? Instead of starting from scratch I've also considered approaching one of the companies (mostly in Michigan) that make similar vehicles and asking them to modify their hardware for my requirements, and to provide their in-car dvd and entertainment system source for me to modify. Has anyone taken this route before? How did it work for you?"
the troll has a point. Apple is the king of installing background crap on your computer. (well, they are if you use their software on windows, at least)
Even if you kill apple software updater, no matter how many times I click "no" and "don't ask me again" iTunes still pops up a (@*&(#*&$@(* do you want to update box whenever I start it.
I'd certainly be upset if I lived/worked/frequently drove nearby a prison. I don't want my private communications monitored because *gasp* some inmate might be making a phone call.
I think it would make more sense to forget about this whole stupid idea. The last thing we need to do is give prison guards more power. Letting them jam cell signals is bad. Giving them the power to arbitrarily monitor them is far worse.
it was InfoGear, who were later acquired by cisco, who later used the same trademark to launch another, unrelated product under the linksys brand. There's a whole blurb about it on the iPhone's wikipedia article.
While I never bought any of the products in question, they all seem to have been available from the usual channels at their time of launch.
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No kidding. Which is why Amazon isn't actually PAYING the tax. It's COLLECTING the tax, which is actually paid by the person who lives in the jurisdiction... and who is presumably partaking of the services the tax is paying for. Better go back to the drawing board on this one.
Actually, it's doing neither. Which is how it should remain.
A corporation in state X has no obligation to play tax collector for state Y.
The government of state Y chose to pass an absurd, impractical to collect tax instead of biting the bullet and doing something practical but politically inconvenient like raising income tax rates, and they're paying the price. It's between them and their citizens, no one else.
Perhaps you were raised in a different culture than I. I was always taught that sharing and charity were voluntary, not owed, so I could certainly believe "Nobody owes anybody anything", give to charity and share with others, and still be morally consistent.
In fact, there are those who believe those things being voluntary makes them more meaningful.
According to this page, $50k is closer to a starting salary for NY & LA. (I choose them since it's their papers providing TFA.) If you've been teaching since the 80s and have a master's degree, NYC teachers head towards 6 figures pretty quick.
$80k may be more than the average for the majority of districts, but you choose the right one and not only is it totally achievable, there's a pretty good overlap with the state/local governments that tend to have budget issues.
The issue with taxing amazon is quite simple - governments have no business levying taxes outside their jurisdiction. If a citizen of say, California, directs goods to be brought into the state, state law says that individual is responsible for paying use tax, not the merchant from which they purchased said goods.
The music and video shops in your example have a presence in the local jurisdiction and benefit from its services such as roads, social programs, police/fire protection and so on. Amazon doesn't.
The point is, there's a difference between saying "Michael Vick should be allowed to play in the NFL, provided any team wants him" and "All references to his arrest, trial and conviction should be purged from the archives"
This guy did some stuff in his past that got him checked out by the feds, and people found out about it. It's up to potential employers to decide whether or not that is relevant to them. I may agree that the past should often just be left as the past, but I don't think that means everyone else has to share my opinion, or be denied the opportunity to form their own. (which is essentially what the OP wants)
"Fail in a different manner" is the issue.
Enron is gone and no one will ever lose another dime to them. Madoff's going to rot in jail for the rest of his life.
When the government screws something up, it doesn't die and go away, it tends to get bigger and more expensive for the (increasingly small) portion of the population expected to pay for it. I can stop buying food grown with Monsanto products. I can choose not to patronize or invest in poorly conceived internet startups. I can't (without serious social/legal/financial consequences) wake up and stop paying taxes.
The fact that this isn't (Score: 5, Funny) is proof that not only are there women on /., they have mod points.
Except....they don't owe anything above and beyond what they've been paying. You can be damn sure if WA had a case against MS for the NV licensing income, they'd be in court by now. This is just posturing and trying to drum up support for an extraterritorial tax, which is BS in my book. The income does not arise within their borders, therefore it should be none of their business. Just because the raw materials (Windows, Office et al. IP) are created in WA means nothing. The company that does the licensing is located in another jurisdiction.
When exactly did it become acceptable for governments to pull stuff like this? The US does the same thing with overseas profits of our corporations and individuals, and it's no better.
Extraterritorial taxes are a money grab, plain and simple. You want to tax the profits when they are repatriated? Fine. But money that arises outside of your purview and never enters it is none of your business. Using the fact that you have power over another area of a company's operations to force them into paying up on said monies is just wrong.
What I haven't seen mentioned yet are the differing prescription requirements for the various drugs mentioned. Hydrocodone "compounds" like the ones mentioned can be prescribed by a much larger class of professionals than can straight Hydrocodone/oxycodone/etc.
As the GP stated, the acetaminophen is put in the pills to reduce the "abuse potential" Since these are considered "less dangerous" (since they'll kill you before they get you very high.) the gov't lets them be given out more easily. So right now my dentist can prescribe Vicodin/etc. after a particularly nasty root canal, but if they take it off the market, he can't just write a script for the controlled substance part of the compound on its own.
Are you kidding? We already collect taxes on people who work/live in other countries, why should driving be any different? US tax/law enforcement hasn't stopped at our borders for some time.
Because that's what their exploration agreements with the government said?
Here's the real question - if you hated programming so much, why didn't you switch to a major you liked? You note that many CS majors take your route, but really, it's no excuse. Those people are silly.
That said, if you find you like web development and DBA, my personal opinion is avoid the masters. The MS is *not* going to help you get an entry level position as a web dev or a DBA. You're risking overqualification here. (if you can even find a respectable MS in web development, that is.) A master's degree is not the magic bullet many people considering them think it is. And blowing (30k + living expenses? I don't know what a grad degree goes for in the UK) during questionable economic times on something that may or not pay off isn't a magic switch for your career either. You may find yourself a year or two from now with nothing but a ligher wallet and the same job prospects.
You say you want to make a clean break, do it. Start applying to positions in the field you're interested in, located in another city. Start doing some small projects on your own so you can provide some backup to your desires and prove a bit of competence in an interview. You're going to face a bit of a hurdle having gone School->unrelated job->Helpdesk, but if you can prove an interest in the job and the ability to handle basic related tasks and learn on your feet, you should have a pretty good shot.
You implied all the carriers save AT&T force handset manufacturers to agree to their terms. AT&T has forced apple to remove/cripple a number of apps for the iPhone as part of their business relationship.
Apple is a handset manufacturer. AT&T's terms are the blocking of apps which could result in a certain level of data usage on their network. AT&T forced Apple to agree to their terms as a condition of launching Apple's handset on their network.
While all major carriers engage in some level of feature-blocking, AT&T has been one of the higher-profile offenders of late. I'm not sure where you got the idea they were special.
Except AT&T? Right, that'd be why the slingplayer mobile for iPhone is the only one that can't utilize the cellular network.
Copy-on-write is at the block level, if I'm not mistaken, and given that data has to be written in blocks to block devices anyway it's not that big of a deal.
Sounds like something the 360 does right now.
Maybe the patent covers a system whereby you're forced to pay the console maker for the music you want to integrate.
Requiring scripts is fine. Having a government database of them is not.
I'd much rather a few thousand addicts had an easier time getting their next fix than have my personal details on the open market. (I live in VA and have filled prescriptions at pharmacies here, so I can only assume my personal data is part of this breach.)
This incident (well, the threat of it) is pretty much the textbook argument against government databases. Too bad no one will pay attention when it actually happens.
The patent troll example was to illustrate the example between idea, (and in some cases, patent) and actual invention.
I didn't say our fair poster was a patent troll, merely that he hadn't invented the device in question yet.
Having an idea for something is not the same as inventing it.
What, exactly, is your definition of "invent"?
Part of an invention is the process by which it operates and is constructed.
Patenting an "invention" that you have no ability to actually produce is no different than these companies who patented things like "an internet-connected gaming system with wireless controllers" but never built one, because they didn't know how, yet now feel sony, nintendo, MS et al owe them billions of dollars.
no, it's more like how 'audio' blank CDs have special pixie dust in the jewel case that makes them more 'audio-y' than regular blank CDs
Even better, how about we stop encouraging/helping wild-eyed "entrepreneurs" who have these great ideas that are "probably patentable" but who are wholly incapable of actually inventing said devices.
Hell, I have an idea for a 400mpg car for the automotive market. It's probably patentable so I can't give details. I can handle the in-car dvd and entertainment system but have no automotive engineering or manufacturing experience. Does anyone have any recommendations for a company to handle the drivetrain design and manufacture? Instead of starting from scratch I've also considered approaching one of the companies (mostly in Michigan) that make similar vehicles and asking them to modify their hardware for my requirements, and to provide their in-car dvd and entertainment system source for me to modify. Has anyone taken this route before? How did it work for you?"
At least they didn't name the department Procurement and Importunation.
the troll has a point. Apple is the king of installing background crap on your computer. (well, they are if you use their software on windows, at least)
Even if you kill apple software updater, no matter how many times I click "no" and "don't ask me again" iTunes still pops up a (@*&(#*&$@(* do you want to update box whenever I start it.
Don't worry, it really will be oceanfront in 100 years or so.
I'd certainly be upset if I lived/worked/frequently drove nearby a prison. I don't want my private communications monitored because *gasp* some inmate might be making a phone call.
I think it would make more sense to forget about this whole stupid idea. The last thing we need to do is give prison guards more power. Letting them jam cell signals is bad. Giving them the power to arbitrarily monitor them is far worse.
it was InfoGear, who were later acquired by cisco, who later used the same trademark to launch another, unrelated product under the linksys brand. There's a whole blurb about it on the iPhone's wikipedia article. While I never bought any of the products in question, they all seem to have been available from the usual channels at their time of launch.