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How 10 Iconic Tech Products Got Their Names

lgmac writes "Think Windows Azure is a stupid name? Ever wonder how iPod, BlackBerry and Twitter got their names? Author Tom Wailgum goes inside the process of creating tech product names that are cool but not exclusionary, marketable, and most of all, free of copyright and trademark gotchas. Here's the scoop on ten iconic tech products and how they got their monikers, plus a chat with the man responsible for naming Azure, BlackBerry, and more. (What's the one he wishes he'd named but didn't? Google.)"

247 comments

  1. I bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...it involved a lot of pot.

    1. Re:I bet... by JCSoRocks · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Not really. Naming is actually a really big business and is usually a pretty painful process. I know someone that was a professional namer that worked for a big branding house for a while. The time they spent coming up with names was pretty incredible.

      I never would have believed it if I hadn't seen him working on projects with my own eyes. I always figured a bunch of marketing hacks just got together in a room and tossed around names until one stuck. Maybe I was just biased because that's the way it worked where I was at.

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    2. Re:I bet... by mfh · · Score: 2, Informative

      ...it involved a lot of pot.

      According to the article, it has to do with a lot more than smoking pot. Lexicon Branding typically uses well known and loved words, phrases and syllables, in trendy-sounding configurations, and I would stress that smoking pot in doing so would only help you reach that type of audience, and in most cases Lexicon's audience is much broader than that.

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    3. Re:I bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      and then there is Apple

      it's a phone, what should we call it? iPhone

      it's a new Mac, what should we call it? iMac

      it handles all your tunes, what should we call it? iTunes

      great, boys, we're done here

    4. Re:I bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      iPot?

      How about the "iForOneWelcomeOur...".

      On second thought - nah...

    5. Re:I bet... by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 1

      Smart moves on their part for sure, but it's not the "i" that's going to get them into trouble.

    6. Re:I bet... by Hatta · · Score: 1

      I always figured a bunch of marketing hacks just got together in a room and tossed around names until one stuck.

      How is it done then? I'm having trouble imagining any other way.

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    7. Re:I bet... by JCSoRocks · · Score: 5, Informative

      A team of namers is given the parameters of the project -
      product / company type
      target audience
      what sort of feeling the name should convey
      the regions that the name will be used in

      Namers then go off on their own and compose massive lists of names. I've seen the names run the gamut from simple mashups of common words to mashups of greek / latin roots to words based on etymological research of the original target "feeling" words. Then the namers get together and reduce the list down to a set of finalists before presenting them for client review.

      Sometimes it takes a few iterations... Particularly if the objective is to get a globally trademarkable word that won't be misinterpreted as meaning anything offensive in another country.

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    8. Re:I bet... by MikeDirnt69 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm still waiting for iPr0n.

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    9. Re:I bet... by paeanblack · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Naming is actually a really big business and is usually a pretty painful process. I know someone that was a professional namer that worked for a big branding house for a while. The time they spent coming up with names was pretty incredible.

      F/OSS, in general, fails miserably here. "Linpus Lite" on the EEE PCs? WTF?

      The name should not matter, but in reality, it does. Unfortunately, OSS projects seem to only accept a rebranding under threats of legal action.

    10. Re:I bet... by frission · · Score: 3, Interesting

      same goes for logos. I remember a friend of mine saying that he got to see the Nike sketchbook, he said the original brainstorm of "possible" logos was as thick as a bible (if the bible was printed on regular paper, not the thin paper).

      in the end, all the work for a swoosh :)

    11. Re:I bet... by Gilmoure · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey maygn! Why you buy a car that no go?

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    12. Re:I bet... by sorak · · Score: 4, Funny

      So, what kind of names do their children have? Did they spend months obsessively trying to determine a name that conveys "don't beat me up, now, please hire me later"?

    13. Re:I bet... by dubl-u · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And I'd add that some places actively test the names, as well. E.g., asking what people think in focus groups of different names. Or, more subtly, showing a new product to different people with different names on it, and getting stats about their reactions.

      Depending too much on what executives personally think of names is dangerous, because executives are very rarely representative of the target market. That lesson applies to lots of other things, too, like features and pricing.

    14. Re:I bet... by hansamurai · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Depends on how set on a name their wife is, it could be over in a matter of seconds.

    15. Re:I bet... by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      So, really, it's just a bunch of marketing hacks who go off on their own and come up with a bunch of names and then get together in a room and toss them around until one sticks.

      If nothing sticks, rinse and repeat.

    16. Re:I bet... by ZarathustraDK · · Score: 2, Funny

      They did the iRack, when are they gonna do the iRan?

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    17. Re:I bet... by b96miata · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And since they're apple, the fact that another company (some networking equipment firm no one's ever heard of) had already thought up and marketed an iPhone is no problem whatsoever.

    18. Re:I bet... by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      John.

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    19. Re:I bet... by srussia · · Score: 1

      Namers then go off on their own and compose massive lists of names.

      So...a bunch of marketing hacks are briefed and then get together in a room and toss around names until one sticks.

      I see it now... big diff there.

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    20. Re:I bet... by No-Cool-Nickname · · Score: 5, Funny

      it's a toilet, what should we call it? iShit

      it's an intravenous drug, what should we call it? iNject.

      it's an Apple fan boy, what should we call it? iDiot.

      (just a little joke, Macaniacs..)

    21. Re:I bet... by Windows_NT · · Score: 1

      Yes, Azure is a stupid name .. Whats this about? I only read the first sentence and had to post.

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    22. Re:I bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "it's a toilet, what should we call it? iShit"

      In the Health care industy, a shit is callws a 'BM' (stands for bowel movement)

      So an Apple toilet would be called... oh wait, you think big blues lawyers would have an iSue with that?

    23. Re:I bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Namers then go off on their own and compose massive lists of names.

      So...a bunch of marketing hacks are briefed and then get together in a room and toss around names until one sticks. I see it now... big diff there.

      I added the emphasis. Not that I ultimately care which is right or about the argument in general, but I find there to be glaring differences in each response.

    24. Re:I bet... by afidel · · Score: 1

      Huh, going to? They bought the trademark! Actually I'm kind of surprised they didn't buy the catalog and label and make it an iTunes exclusive =) Probably would have only cost them about 10-16x what they paid for the trademark based on valuations from earlier this year when Jackson lost control.

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    25. Re:I bet... by David+Gerard · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hence the recent court case with iBM.

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    26. Re:I bet... by quacking+duck · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't forget the GIMP. Or the Apache ("a patchy") HTTP server.

      Sure, they have clever origins, and that's fine for projects just getting off the ground, but it becomes a PR issue when it starts being used or heard by the mainstream.

    27. Re:I bet... by Logic+Bomb · · Score: 4, Funny

      Mitch Hedberg had a bit on one of his comedy CDs about product naming. Paraphrasing: take whatever the product does and add "er."

      "What's this thing do?"

      "It keeps things fresh."

      "Then that's a fresher. I'm goin' on break."

    28. Re:I bet... by cheater512 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Erm wasnt that Linksys?

      If I recall correctly they didnt actually make a product for sale.

      Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

    29. Re:I bet... by cheater512 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey if there was a patchy helicopter with me in its cross hairs I would be running pretty fast - not that running would do me much good. :P

    30. Re:I bet... by b96miata · · Score: 4, Informative

      it was InfoGear, who were later acquired by cisco, who later used the same trademark to launch another, unrelated product under the linksys brand. There's a whole blurb about it on the iPhone's wikipedia article. While I never bought any of the products in question, they all seem to have been available from the usual channels at their time of launch.

    31. Re:I bet... by houghi · · Score: 1

      Many expecting parents do exactly that for about 8-9 months.

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    32. Re:I bet... by lysergic.acid · · Score: 1

      i always thought it was pronounced ee-ron, not "i ran".

      but then again i've heard middle easterners pronounce Iraq both with a short "i" and with a long "i."

    33. Re:I bet... by lysergic.acid · · Score: 1

      Eee PC is hardware, and it's not open source. you might be able to get it with open source software installed, but it has nothing to do with the open source community. it was developed by ASUS, and they were the ones that came up with that name.

      and i don't see any correlation between F/OSS and poor naming. you can find just as many closed source applications with retarded, unmarketable names: Webteh BS.Player, WS_FTP, dBPowerAmp, foobar2000, etc.

      also, the examples you gave really just demonstrate that Taiwanese companies come up with poor names (for U.S. markets at least). ASUS is a Taiwanese company, and so is Linpus Technologies, the company that developed Linpus Lite. in contrast, Fedora, which is what Linpus is based off of, is a pretty good name by a F/OSS company. likewise, MySQL, Firefox, Pidgin, Red Hat, etc. are all pretty reasonable names.

    34. Re:I bet... by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      I dunno. I don't see what's the big issue with an American Indian serving me websites. Do native Americans have some kind of anti-Internet connotation in the States? Seriously, nobody except geeks remembers the "a patchy server" origin of the name or thinks about that when they hear the name.

      The GIMP... Yeah, that one's bad. In countries where English is the primary language. Everywhere else it's yet another acronym.


      Replying to the GP, the name "Eee" is something only a marketing person can possibly like. Nobody cares about the things they interpret into the name and it's even more awkward than "Wii" because "Wii"is pronounced more or less the same around the world. "Eee", however, is pronounced "e" in English and "aaay" in German. And a regular person will think you're talking about a letter wither way.

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    35. Re:I bet... by beav007 · · Score: 1

      I always say "I-rahk" and "I-rahn"...

    36. Re:I bet... by kitgerrits · · Score: 1

      iForOne, that sounds to me like a Mac Wedding Chapel...

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    37. Re:I bet... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Dood! I've owned four Novas. Don't harsh my buzz.

      Oh yeah, Camaro means cat piss in Catalan. S'truth!

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    38. Re:I bet... by Hooya · · Score: 1

      And there's a database system called "Mnesia". Try telling your boss that you put all your data on a server with Mnesia.

    39. Re:I bet... by Monsuco · · Score: 1

      and then there is Apple

      it's a phone, what should we call it? iPhone

      it's a new Mac, what should we call it? iMac

      it handles all your tunes, what should we call it? iTunes

      great, boys, we're done here

      Don't forget Microsoft.

      We make software for microcomputers, what should we be called? Microsoft.

      A window manager for DOS (origionally), what should we call it? Windows!

      Some office software? Office

      A piece of software that can virtualize a PC? VirtualPC.

    40. Re:I bet... by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

      You made my point about Apache. Although it merely meant it was a patchwork of various code, it could be misinterpreted as a mission-critical server that has to be constantly patched.

      So, once Apache became a serious alternative to the paid web servers they had to do a little PR spin, and officially denied that the pun was the reason for calling it "Apache." However, the primary Apache developer himself confirmed the "A Patchy" story.

      As for the GIMP, the primary user base is probably English, and they in turn may have to pitch it or justify using it to English-speaking, non-techy PHBs. It doesn't bother me personally, but the topic here is product naming, and how it forms perceptions (and pre-conceptions). GIMP came up negative on both when I first told a non-techy co-worker about it. I could've used the "full name" but you know what, the developers decided to use GIMP, why should I bother trying to alter people's first impressions based on the name if the developers don't care.

    41. Re:I bet... by bronney · · Score: 1

      gimme back my iBlow!

    42. Re:I bet... by Vastad · · Score: 1

      Dammit! No mod points. That's a good one.

    43. Re:I bet... by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      Not really. Naming is actually a really big business and is usually a pretty painful process. I know someone that was a professional namer that worked for a big branding house for a while. The time they spent coming up with names was pretty incredible.

      I'd believe it. You need a name that's catchy, but unique. You want to avoid sexual innuendo for most products, and if you have any desire to go international - you have to check how the name changes in meaning as you travel. Take car names - Aztec has different connotations in South America than it does in North America. And sometimes you can't get away with a simple rebadge as advertising will transfer.

      I remember seeing a website way back full of unfortunate naming. This isn't it, but along the same lines.

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    44. Re:I bet... by chthonicdaemon · · Score: 1

      Gimp is not as common outside America or England as you may think, and even in these countries, it's a slang word. Also -- witness the power of branding -- search for Gimp on any search engine and I bet the first page will be GIMP-related.

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    45. Re:I bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Connectix wrote and named Virtual PC, you twit. Microsoft only bought it in 2003.

    46. Re:I bet... by Bonobo_Unknown · · Score: 1

      My favorite was the Daewoo Espero. I saw it while in Latin America, Espero means:
      I hope / I wait in Spanish.

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    47. Re:I bet... by MythMoth · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, that must explain why Apache is doing so terribly in terms of market penetration...

      Most non-technical people have never heard of "patching" and the technical ones all know about Apache.

      The GIMP certainly has a stupid name, but I sincerely doubt that it affects its take up anything like as much as the shere existing mindshare of PhotoShop. In fact I'll bet that the GimpShop hack improves its prominence more than a "pure" name change, and I'll bet that most of that is down to the obvious connection with PhotoShop not the sanitization of the user interface.

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    48. Re:I bet... by rugatero · · Score: 1

      Naming is actually a really big business and is usually a pretty painful process.

      As observed by Stephen Fry:

      When a market research team was asked to come up with a new name for the merger between a university and a college, at Bradford, it took them three months to come up with, University of Bradford, The University of Bradford and Bradford University. Their fee was 20,000 pounds.

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    49. Re:I bet... by harry666t · · Score: 0

      The toilet is actually called the iToi. It has a builtin 56k modem and 1st-class shittape with rounded corners, made from a single, monolithic block of dead trees.

    50. Re:I bet... by ndixon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Years back, I and a few colleagues noticed you could take whatever the product does (or whatever you'd do with it) and add "-ex".

      E.g. Kleenex, Earex, Sinex.

      We jokingly proposed a new toilet paper: Wipex.
      Of course, that name was already taken.

      Funny thing is, someone actually wrote a paper on this very subject.

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    51. Re:I bet... by robthebloke · · Score: 1

      iStool

    52. Re:I bet... by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, that must explain why Apache is doing so terribly in terms of market penetration...

      Did I say Apache was doing badly? Hmm, let's see... no, I didn't!

      The GP was talking about how some F/OSS products have poorly chosen names. Apache isn't bad at all, but I was pointing out the punny history behind it, and how the Apache developers themselves have tried to get away from it to prevent any chance of mis-perception.

    53. Re:I bet... by Malevolyn · · Score: 1

      I was going to make a Duron Duron, Intel Mac joke but then I remembered that the song is by Flock of Seagulls. Nevermind.

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    54. Re:I bet... by No-Cool-Nickname · · Score: 0

      ...a builtin 56k modem

      A high fiber diet increases the download speeds.

    55. Re:I bet... by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's a better example. I knew there were a bunch of car names that are more or less fine in english but translate into spanish poorly.

      The Aztec was the one I could think of off the top of my head - I'm still like, 'Sure, let's name a car after an empire that practiced human sacrifice*'. Oh, and got them slaughtered by a raiding party/army orders of magnitude smaller than them.

      *I deny any and all evidence that vikings did.

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    56. Re:I bet... by Philip+Shaw · · Score: 1

      Most PS fans would consider GIMP to be gimped, so that works quite well, anyway.

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    57. Re:I bet... by Mozk · · Score: 1

      The Arabic pronunciation is [?\i"4A:q], and the most similar English pronunciation is [I"rA:k]. However, region, dialect, and accent can introduce variations of both, like you said.

      If you're unfamiliar with X-SAMPA:
      I = English bit
      " = stress marker, before stressed syllable
      r = Spanish perro, or alternatively English red
      A: = English father
      k = English kiss

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    58. Re:I bet... by slater86 · · Score: 1

      it seems the iGoatse has been done too http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Image:IGoatse-.JPG

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    59. Re:I bet... by DaVince21 · · Score: 1

      you twitter.

      Fixed that for ya.

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    60. Re:I bet... by DaVince21 · · Score: 1

      I guess Fiat never thought about how their Panda might be misinterpreted as "it's bread" in Japan...

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  2. MSFT by mfh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While Microsoft's next OS is kind of a "Ho-hum" name, one has only to look at what happened with the most recent Windows release to understand why Microsoft might have gone back to a tried-and-true naming philosophy: Vista? Ouch. Windows 95 and XP? Those have done much better.

    Name it what you want, but the RESULT is what gives products their reputations, not the names of said products. The only saving grace of XP is how terrible Vista was received by the public, so in comparison, XP looked much better. And how interesting this is to me because I remember how terrible XP was in the beginning. Vista is like Windows ME -- everyone will be happier when it goes away, and we'll all love Windows 7, as long as it's different than Vista. Unbind our hands, and open up the possibilities and you'll win us over. Stop fixing things that we like just because some restrictive group wants you to (RIAA, MPAA, FBI, CIA, DOJ...etc), and start fixing things we hate -- like how restrictive everything is in Vista.

    Security has little to do with forcing us to click OK every ten seconds, because eventually that repetitive task will just happen without any consideration -- much like how EULA's are click-passed, and how nobody EVAR reads em. If you want to keep us secure, take a page from Linux and open up your OS to public scrutiny so that people can perfect it. What are you afraid of? Seriously. Who cares if we find out that you people at Microsoft haven't done any real work since 1990... we ALREADY KNOW THAT. You just keep repainting the same product and sending it out with a bunch of problems so we will all feel your pain and we will all buy into your anti-virus and special editions... your drive for future product updates. We know that you only borked Vista so that people would love XP... and it worked. We loved you again, but we loved the past MS. People aren't stupid... well at least not THAT stupid.

    Although it looks like you think we are, especially because of those insane advertisements you have with Bill Gates and Jerry Seinfeld. Are you nuts???

    We also don't want to lose our life savings from lawsuits. Oh and while you're at it... take a close look at the stock market and remember that WE EMPLOY YOU, so you'd better do what we say MSFT or we'll employ someone else... it's only a matter of time, now that the incentive for free OS use is higher than ever!

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    1. Re:MSFT by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 5, Funny

      "If you want to keep us secure, take a page from Linux and open up your OS to public scrutiny so that people can perfect it. What are you afraid of?"

      You must be new here

      >mfh (56)

      or not

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    2. Re:MSFT by mfh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Shut the fuck up, or I'll fucking throw a fucking chair at you.

      Oh I suppose I had that one coming. But just think about this for a second, Mr. Ballmer... would you like to be throwing a cardboard box (ie: your new office/home) -- or would you prefer to get your big fat fingers on a nice plush Italian leather chair? Your wealth is intimately linked with the act of listening to the public. We want change, now. Not spare change... we want a major course-correction, globally.

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    3. Re:MSFT by Moridineas · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Name it what you want, but the RESULT is what gives products their reputations, not the names of said products. The only saving grace of XP is how terrible Vista was received by the public, so in comparison, XP looked much better. And how interesting this is to me because I remember how terrible XP was in the beginning.

      I think that's BS. Other than a small subset of people who were upset about activation, XP was pretty good from the get go. SP1 made it good without reservations. (and I don't mean this is a big linux vs Windows vs Mac flamefest) Most people switching to XP had been using 95/98/ME. XP--without reservation--is better than all of them. If you were coming from 2K, it was less of a jump, but still an improvement for most users (imho, I know some people debate this last point).

    4. Re:MSFT by KasperMeerts · · Score: 1

      Ballmer's net worth is 15 billion dollars for the moment. I don't really think his wealth is linked to how Windows is received. He can just as easy say "Fuck You Guys" tomorrow and go live in a condo on the moon.

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    5. Re:MSFT by drachenstern · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ballmer's net worth is 15 billion dollars on paper for the moment.

      Remind me how it's divested entirely from the Microsoft shares he holds?

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    6. Re:MSFT by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Name it what you want, but the RESULT is what gives products their reputations, not the names of said products.

      Amen. And think about it... Micro-soft itself is a pretty ho-hum name, in fact it's downright lame. Today, if the company name would be still available, no one in their right mind would give their software firm a name like that, even freelancing consultants wouldn't be so silly as to pick that as their firm's name. But they rose to greatness (in influence and dollars if not reputation for quality), and thus the name lost its lameness and became associated with an extremely succesful tech company.

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    7. Re:MSFT by residieu · · Score: 2, Informative

      The security dialog problem is overrated. They only pop up when you'd expect them to pop up. When you're installing things or modifying system wide-settings. Mac OS and Gnome/KDE will do the same thing. The only difference is that Vista doesn't make you reenter your password, it just alerts you that something's up.

    8. Re:MSFT by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      Name it what you want, but the RESULT is what gives products their reputations, not the names of said products.

      This is true, but not totally relevant.

      Especially for new products, a name is a big part of the first impression they create. A good name can't turn crap into gold, but it can persuade people to try your product and find out whether or not it's any good. And it certainly can help make it easy for people to talk and learn about your product.

      Some products succeed based on their technical awesomeness and nothing else. Some products succeed on marketing alone, as anybody who has purchased from late-night TV or an MLM scam knows. But the smart entrepreneur tries to cover all the bases, starting with a good idea well executed, and then properly marketed, sold, and supported.

    9. Re:MSFT by knails · · Score: 1

      Although it looks like you think we are, especially because of those insane advertisements you have with Bill Gates and Jerry Seinfeld. Are you nuts???

      Wait, what was wrong with the Gates/Seinfeld Ads? I thought they were hilarious. They didn't change my opinion about MS, Vista, or anything related, though I already use windows with mostly no complaints, and have no problem with Vista.

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    10. Re:MSFT by nabsltd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ballmer's net worth is 15 billion dollars on paper for the moment.

      Remind me how it's divested entirely from the Microsoft shares he holds?

      Even if Microsoft stock collapsed to a relatively unthinkable low, Ballmer probably would end up with stock worth north of $100M.

      Remember that Microsoft has billions of cash in the bank, a large amount of real property, and no debt. So, unlike many other companies, their stock has a absolute bottom value (it could go lower, but then it would be pushed right back up as people bought it).

    11. Re:MSFT by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      It would be the moment he sold them.

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    12. Re:MSFT by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

      Yea, unless you like playing games. There are just as many games that worked on ME that don't work on XP as games that worked on XP and don't on Vista. I _still_ have a PC with 98 installed, and I _still_ have VirtualBox Windows 98 images because that's the only way I can get a lot of the games I like to run. Some of them will run on Wine too, but a lot of them tend to lock up randomly.

    13. Re:MSFT by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      XP was pretty good from the get go.

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    14. Re:MSFT by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      well, the thing of it is, in Vista, they pop up EVERY time. Any Unix or Linux I've ever used can be configured to pop up a dialog only after a certain amount of time has passed since the last dialog.

      That's great if you're configuring a new system or installing a lot of new hardware or software. Enter your password once, get it done with no hassle.

      Vista, you have to click Accept *TWICE* for every application that needs to make a change; sometimes *TWICE* for every change.

      Ubuntu on my laptops, HTPC, one server and one desktop, Win2k on one server, XP, Vista and Win7 on the other 3 desktops.

      Yes, I know what I'm talking about.

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    15. Re:MSFT by Moridineas · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, Blaster was a major PITA and a major worm. There have even been several since then that preyed on the same kind of vulnerabilities (Zotob and sasser spring to mind). Do you remember teardrop? That one even got linux. There were worms decades before XP, and I think it's hard to argue that the worm situation on Windows has gotten WORSE since pre-XP. Each release of windows (including Vista) has gotten better. Better is of course a relative term, but still.

    16. Re:MSFT by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      Yeah, XP lost some backwards compatibility. Well, to be precise, XP GAINED backwards compatibility over its predecessor--Windows 2000--but did lack the ability to run some 95/98/ME/DOS games. I don't think that's a fair measure to say XP is worse than ME.

      I run a number of games in DOSBox, but I can't think off the top of my head of any 95/98 games that didn't work in XP. Not denying it, but what are some examples?

    17. Re:MSFT by wild_quinine · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Amen. And think about it... Micro-soft itself is a pretty ho-hum name, in fact it's downright lame. Today, if the company name would be still available, no one in their right mind would give their software firm a name like that, even freelancing consultants wouldn't be so silly as to pick that as their firm's name. But they rose to greatness (in influence and dollars if not reputation for quality), and thus the name lost its lameness and became associated with an extremely succesful tech company.

      Perfecty expressed. And the best example of this ever?

      Drum roll.... (pun intended)

      The Beatles.

      Awful name. And now forever the name of greatness.

    18. Re:MSFT by KeithJM · · Score: 1

      Yes, but how much do you think the stock would drop (even before he was done selling his shares) if he called his broker and said dump my $15 Billion worth of MSFT?

    19. Re:MSFT by Braintrust · · Score: 1

      The only game I can think of that I couldn't get to run in XP, would be Wizards and Warriors, the cRPG by D.W. Bradley... I play a LOT of old games, and other than the mandatory DosBox, nothing special is needed to run 99.99% of Dos/Win 3.1/95/98/ME/2000/ games in XP.

      XP is easily the friendliest os ever for pc gamers, imo.

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    20. Re:MSFT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Backwards compatibility can't be kept forever. Legacy support causes bloat. Everyone is mad at MS for having a bloated OS and yet people complain when the OS wasn't as bloated as it could have been?

    21. Re:MSFT by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

      I've had a lot of trouble with the earlier games in the Command and Conquer series - the original, Red Alert, and I seem to recall even having trouble with Tiberium Sun, though I'm not sure about that one. Other than those though, yea, they're mostly DOS games, which worked fine on every version of Windows until then. You'd think they would have at least included their own DOS emulator when they removed it. I mean, how hard could that be?

    22. Re:MSFT by drachenstern · · Score: 1

      Ok, I'll bite.

      Here's the thing: if their stock collapsed that far, then they would start selling off assets, and all that cash in the bank has to go somewhere. Part of the companies assets is the cash in the bank, so...

      Now, I realize that investor confidence is what drives a stock price, but there are only so many reasons for a collapse that far, and it usually involves digging into said cash reserves.

      Am I meandering now?

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    23. Re:MSFT by BrentH · · Score: 1

      My dad Vista install even requires you to answer this security dialog for running Firefox. He doesnt know jack shit about running as administrator and stuff like that, so I really wonder how an ordinary user could fuck up a system like that. Why do I have the feeling that this just isnt possibel in Ubuntu, but somehow is in Vista, and is due to bad design (in Vista)?

    24. Re:MSFT by NickDngr · · Score: 1

      "If you want to keep us secure, take a page from Linux and open up your OS to public scrutiny so that people can perfect it. What are you afraid of?"

      You must be new here

      >mfh (56)

      or not

      Actually, mfh bought his account on ebay. So yeah, pretty much.

      --
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    25. Re:MSFT by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I think that's BS. Other than a small subset of people who were upset about activation, XP was pretty good from the get go.

      No. Only if you compared it with Windows ME. Not even if compared it with Win98SE for some situations. It was a dissappointment.

      After SP2 it could be compared with Win2k in many situations so long as you had XP Pro. Things like the deliberate crippling of shared network drives still annoy me with XP.

    26. Re:MSFT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Micro-soft is not a ho-hum name. It was proudly named after Bill Gates' most favorite appendage. Just ask Melissa how micro and soft the thing really is and what she thought when she saw it on her wedding night.

    27. Re:MSFT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could be worse, it could be Microhard...

      http://www.microhardcorp.com/home.htm

      "Robust Design, Excellent Sensitivity, Maximum Power."

    28. Re:MSFT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Micro-soft... rose to greatness.

      Snickers...

    29. Re:MSFT by dlanod · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Considering that that was long enough ago that it's entired the collective repository of /. knowledge, I'd still go with "nah, not really".

    30. Re:MSFT by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      Windows XP (and 2k, NT, etc) DID include a dos emulator--it just wasn't great. If you remember, for awhile a really popular way of running DOS programs in XP was vdmsound (essentially more complete sound drivers for the builtin dos virtual machine). DOSBox went the extra step of being a whole machine.

      Agree that Microsoft SHOULD have done a better job with backwards compatibility, but, you have to make the cut somewhere.

    31. Re:MSFT by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      No. Only if you compared it with Windows ME. Not even if compared it with Win98SE for some situations. It was a dissappointment.

      How so? Stability. Hardware support. Stability. Better multitasking. NEtworking support. All vastly improved in XP over 98.

      After SP2 it could be compared with Win2k in many situations so long as you had XP Pro. Things like the deliberate crippling of shared network drives still annoy me with XP.

      I'm not sure what you're talking about here (I don't know much about home edition) butare you claiming that because one edition of XP had a feature that you don't like, it's not as good as 98? I don't get it. I'm not going to argue that everybody likes every new version--we still use OS9 occasionally, and I deal with one author who use WP5.1. He swears it's the best. Some people just don't like change. Pointing to ONE feature you don't like does not prove XP is not as good as its predecessors.

    32. Re:MSFT by dbIII · · Score: 1
      For single applications and for legacy hardware support Win98SE was superior (and I still have a few machines runing weird but expensive A/D hardware on win98 for that reason - and networking and multitasking is irrelevant on those standalone systems that do one job and just talk to the other win98 systems in the same enclosure via a backplane). It's things like that which are the "some situations" minor point which was taken totally out of context above - all the things mentioned above like multitasking are not really relevent in such edge cases so let's move back to the main point where I was comparing it to win2k.

      In other aspects Win2k was superior IMHO until XP was patched correctly. Before then there really wasn't anything you could do on XP that you couldn't do on Win2k - that's why I said it was a disappointment (but not a failure). I think you are really reacting from what you see XP as now and not XP as it was when it came out from the perspective of a place that was full of win2k machines with a few NT4 machines - it was not a step forward until SP2.

      It's not just on the home version where network drive behaviour is crippled with respect to Win2k and NT4 - it's just a lot worse on the home version. Anyway it's things like this that initially made me perceive XP as a dud while those that had come from WinME did not see it the same way. Perhaps there's hope for Vista. If it can do quarter of the things it apparently already did in the 2003 announcement of features in the longhorn beta it will be a massive step forward :)

    33. Re:MSFT by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      Ok, I get where you're coming from, and I can buy most of your points :-)

      I do agree that in some ways Win2K is a superior operating system. I still run w2k in parallels on macs instead of XP primarily because it is lighter weight than XP and can run the few business applications we need just as well. Mainly I think that as a home/non-business operating system--that is, as a replacement for the 95/98/ME line--XP is far superior. Over 2k, not so much.

      I'm not that hopeful for Vista. I admittedly have not used Vista pre-SP1 and wasn't THAT horrified by SP1 but all-in-all it just sucks. Inconsistent UIs would be one of my biggest complaints. Another would be speed--doing things like uninstalling 2-3 programs at once (from the initial install I was playing with) made the computer crawl. I'm viewing Vista as the "ME" of the NT line.

    34. Re:MSFT by lysergic.acid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      backwards compatibility doesn't cause bloat. unnecessary features and poor implementation do. since backwards compatibility isn't an unnecessary feature to most people, as long as it's implemented correctly it's not considered bloat.

      what are generally considered bloat are things like:

      • a 76 MB web browser--this is just the full size install of IE6. IE7 takes up about 145 MB of disk space including all updates.
      • bundled cruftware, such as Outlook Express, NetMeeting, MSN/Windows Messenger, Comic Chat, Windows Media Player, etc.
      • useless components like Microsoft Agent, Active Desktop/Channel, Active Scripting, Microsoft Script Debugger, Windows Indexing Service, ActiveX, System Restore, Files and Settings Transfer Wizard, Windows Messenger Service, SQL Server, ClipBook Viewer, not to mention all the integrated DRM.
      • unnecessary/unwanted features, like Remote Assistance/Desktop/Registry, Windows Error Reporting, WGA & other system tray "security" alerts, etc.

      there's a ton of crap in Microsoft's desktop OSes that can be considered bloat, but backwards compatibility isn't one of them.

    35. Re:MSFT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't it make sense in context?
      Micro(computer) Soft(ware).

      *shrug*

    36. Re:MSFT by Chaset · · Score: 1

      I once read an anecdote about MS.
      When they went to China for the first time, they simply translated their name -- "Small" and "Soft".

      Apparently raised snickers in the boardrooms whenever it was mentioned.

      --
      -- "This world is a comedy to those who think, a tragedy to those who feel."
    37. Re:MSFT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      didn't "microsoft" stand originaly for "microcomputer software"?

  3. His explanation of Google's name is BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He says before Google, all the search engines were engineering names like WebCrawler, Webfinder, Websearcher, etc.

    Apparently he never heard of search engines like AltaVista, Yahoo!, Lycos, etc. Seriously? Names are his business and he doesn't remember any of those?

    1. Re:His explanation of Google's name is BS by chibiace · · Score: 4, Funny

      man those last ones you said are really from the past, im having trouble remembering them too. when was the last time you heard of yahoo?

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    2. Re:His explanation of Google's name is BS by ajayrockrock · · Score: 2, Funny

      man those last ones you said are really from the past, im having trouble remembering them too. when was the last time you heard of yahoo?

      yeah, I've never heard of yahoo either. I'm going to jeeves it.

    3. Re:His explanation of Google's name is BS by machine321 · · Score: 2, Informative

      when was the last time you heard of yahoo?

      Every couple of weeks when Microsoft doesn't buy them.

  4. Quick, someone mail this article... by Fallingcow · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... to the GIMP devs.

    1. Re:Quick, someone mail this article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      G-PIMP 1.0 is the first stable release of the Gnu Professional Image Manipulation Program, based off of the GIMP 2.6 series..

    2. Re:Quick, someone mail this article... by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In general giving Open Source Apps horrible names, and odd Icons to go with it hurts the adoption of open source more then most anything else. First there is no real point except to feed RMS's ego to put G for GNU in its name. If you care what license it is then you read the license (at least the title), otherwise you will download and use it anyways. Next the name and/or the icon should help the person know what the app does. Next the name shouldn't sound like a 3rd party ripoff of a well known brand. No Sorney, Magnetbox, Peniphonics, OpenOffice. All it really does is advertise for your competitor and make you look like you are playing catchup with them, while you may actually be going in a different direction. Finally if you are going to use a name that is kinda unique and can be trademark like firefox you need to be smart like the Firefox team really spread the name out so everyone knows about it and what it does. No it is not easy, big companies make the same mistakes too like Vista. However you should put care in making your project name for your Open Source Project.

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    3. Re:Quick, someone mail this article... by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

      We'll have to wake them up then, won't we?

    4. Re:Quick, someone mail this article... by moosesocks · · Score: 1

      I'm not a huge KDE fan, but Amarok is definitely one of the better named OSS products out there.

      Although it does take a second to realize what the name means, it's unique, memorable, and even includes the 'K' in a non-obnoxious fashion. It's just a pity that the software itself could use a bit of polish on the UI front.

      On the other hand, some of the 'K' puns in the rest of the KDE suite are outright painful.

      Oh, and for %*#$&* sake, somebody please (even if you have to make a fork, where the only change is a new name)

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    5. Re:Quick, someone mail this article... by Philip+Shaw · · Score: 1

      Isn't it sometimes used to stand for Gnome, the same way as KDE apps tend to have K in the name somewhere?

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  5. the new way: by tyler.willard · · Score: 1

    Find a free domain and name your product after it.

    Hint: it'll probably be spelt strangely.

    1. Re:the new way: by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      Use different languages. "skami", Lojban for "computer", seems open.

    2. Re:the new way: by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      Hint: it'll probably be spelt strangely.

      What do you know? http://www.speltstrangely.com/ is available!

      --
      Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
    3. Re:the new way: by tyler.willard · · Score: 1

      Dammit...I know I forgot to do something after that post ;)

    4. Re:the new way: by Lars+T. · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hint: it'll probably be spelt strangely.

      What do you know? http://www.speltstrangely.com/ is available!

      Finally a name for my OSS speech recognition project!

      --

      Lars T.

      To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck

    5. Re:the new way: by dubl-u · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, by all means someone should start selling a Skami Computer, hopefully via infomercial! I'd recommend filling out the product line with a "Do!Be!Us!" smartphone, a "Krapee" monitor line, the "De-Funk(t)" music player, the "Borkt" series of printers, and the "InnerFierce" wireless networking gear.

      But please, if you do this, make sure you set up your "world headquarters" in a semi-abandoned strip mall, and move it every time the landlord kicks you out for non-payment. (And no, you can't ever pay rent when running a scam. A penny stolen is a penny earned.)

      The good news is you'll be able to sell Vista on this stuff without increasing your complaint load. Heck, given the target audience, you could probably charge them for two copies and call it Double Vista.

    6. Re:the new way: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Finally a name for my OSS speech recognition project!

      I went with "Unnaturally Speaking", but my project focuses on dictating notes from incomprehensible foreign teaching assistants.

  6. Depends on where you've been by OffTheLip · · Score: 2, Funny

    If the developers hail from a UNIX background there is no mystery. biff, awk, grep, sed. google and twitter seem tame by comparison.

    1. Re:Depends on where you've been by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2, Funny

      If the developers hail from a UNIX background there is no mystery. biff, awk, grep, sed. google and twitter seem tame by comparison.

      At least if you say twitter and google to a girl and they won't take it the wrong way.

      awk, biff, grep, sed, emacs, du, chmod:
      I definitely see a drink thrown in my face and a slap in the future. Even from imaginary ones.

      --
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    2. Re:Depends on where you've been by FLEB · · Score: 1

      Not a girl, but I'd be more likely to call a doctor and initiate CPR.

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      Entertainment wants to be paid.
      You just want to be cheap.
    3. Re:Depends on where you've been by Nesman64 · · Score: 1

      Semi-related
      A Geek's one night stand:

      whois && gawk && uname && talk && date && wine && touch && unzip && strip && touch && finger && mount && fsck && more && yes; yes; more; yes; umount && make clean && sleep

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  7. No Copyright For Names by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Informative

    > ...free of copyright ... gotchas.

    A name cannot have any "copyright gotchas" . Names cannot be protected by copyright.

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    1. Re:No Copyright For Names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but they can be trademarked...

      (some exceptions apply. eg, a person is permitted to use their own name to conduct business even though a company may trademark it)

    2. Re:No Copyright For Names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They can, however be trademarked.

    3. Re:No Copyright For Names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess someone is having trouble with the *trademark* concept.

      Copyrights apply for works of art, drawings, songs, movies, software;

      Trademarks: brand / name / logo protection, used to allow costumers to identify the source of goods / services.

      You might have a copyright protected software, with no trademark protection (by the way, GPL-ed software IS copyright protected).

  8. what about the one that concerns us all... by pejyel · · Score: 1, Interesting

    how could the devs come up with "slashdot" ?

    1. Re:what about the one that concerns us all... by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 4, Funny
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  9. TWAIN by B5_geek · · Score: 1

    As we all know, if you have technology without an interesting name, you can always make an acronym.

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    "The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." ~Plato (427-347 BC)
    1. Re:TWAIN by gnick · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm still trying to find funding for my Tamper Indicative Toggle Switch. I even offered to change the name to Authenticated Smart Switch. For some reason, my boss objected to both names.

      --
      He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
    2. Re:TWAIN by ozamosi · · Score: 2, Funny

      You should stop try to find funding, and just do it. Like liboobs.

    3. Re:TWAIN by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      Maybe you could call it the Tamper-Avoidance Nominal Detection-Authentication switch?

    4. Re:TWAIN by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      You could host it here:

      http://www.youboob.com/

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      There are two types of people in the world: Those who crave closure
  10. Windows 7 by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

    Microsoft's Mike Nash announced the name this way: "Simply put, this is the seventh release of Windows, so therefore 'Windows 7' just makes sense."

    So, has anyone actually figured out exactly what the previous 6 versions of Windows were?

    --
    This guy's the limit!
    1. Re:Windows 7 by Tadrith · · Score: 3, Informative

      I believe it's based on the official major releases of Windows NT, since the 9x kernel was abandoned.

      1. Windows NT 3.1
      2. Windows NT 3.5
      3. Windows NT 4.0
      4. Windows 2000
      5. Windows XP
      6. Windows Vista
      7. Windows 7

    2. Re:Windows 7 by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

      No Windows 2003? Or is that not considered a major release of Windows NT?

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    3. Re:Windows 7 by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      If you look at the kernel versions of Windows NT, you can see why. Based on what I've heard about Windows 7, it really shouldn't be named 7 but 6.1 as it wasn't really a major revision.

      That said both OS X and Windows 7 are rather unoriginal in naming. With OS X, at least they were consistent about the different versions of OS X. Windows NT 3.5 -> Windows NT 4.0 -> Windows 2000 -> Windows XP -> Windows Vista -> Windows 7. Not much consistency there.

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    4. Re:Windows 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Close... so close...

      Windows NT 3.1
      Windows NT 4.0
      Windows 2000 (NT 5.0)
      Windows XP (NT 5.1)
      Windows Vista (NT 6.0)
      Windows 7 (NT 7.0)

      And since W7 is a full version release, it's going to break just as much stuff as Vista did.

    5. Re:Windows 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe it's actually based on the versioning scheme of the NT Kernel: 2000 was NT kernel 5, XP was actually NT Kernel 5.1 (And many builds of XP will advertise themselves as such). Vista is NT 6, and then Windows/NT Kernel 7

    6. Re:Windows 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except MS says the kernel will actually be 6.1.

    7. Re:Windows 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 9x kernel?

      You mean DOS?

    8. Re:Windows 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows 2003 is the server version of XP. It just wasn't released at the same time.

    9. Re:Windows 7 by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 1

      It's from the kernel versions:
      (In the list below both 9x and NT included, some minor releases are missed out, and named releases have their kernel version in brackets)
      1. Windows 1
      2. Windows 2
      3. Windows 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, NT 3.1, NT 2.5 etc
      4. Windows 95 (9x 4.0), NT 4.0, etc.
      5. Windows 98 (9x 5.0), Windows Me (9x 5.1), Windows 2000 (NT 5.0), Windows XP (NT 5.1), Windows Server 2003 (NT 5.2)
      6. Windows Vista (NT 6.0), Windows Server 2008 (NT 6.0)
      7. Windows 7 (NT 6.1)

      It breaks down a little from the fact that the kernel version is 6.1 in the pre-releases, but it could well be changed to 7.0 before release.

    10. Re:Windows 7 by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 1

      *that should be NT 3.5 not 2.5...

    11. Re:Windows 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I assume it's the kernel version, but i haven't seen any windows 7 betas, so i have no ideas...
      Windows 2000 was NT 5.0, XP 5.1, Vista 6.0, so i assume windows 7 will be 7.0.

      -Lee

    12. Re:Windows 7 by Cowmonaut · · Score: 1

      Windows XP x64 uses the Server 2003 x64 kernel.

    13. Re:Windows 7 by Tadrith · · Score: 1

      Yeah, sorry, I should have been more clear on that...

      Windows XP == Windows 2003
      Windows Vista == Windows 2008

      In terms of the kernel, they're considered the same.

    14. Re:Windows 7 by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

      Ummm no. 1. Windows 1, 2. Windows 2, 3. Windows 3 etc. You are forgetting your Windows History!

    15. Re:Windows 7 by yeremein · · Score: 1

      I have a Windows 7 pre-beta (from PDC) installed on my laptop, and it actually calls itself 6.1. That's bound to cause some confusion, particularly when whatever they call the release that actually uses major version 7 comes out.

    16. Re:Windows 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except...

      1. Windows NT 3.1
            Windows NT 3.5
      2. Windows NT 4.0
      3. Windows 2000 / NT 5.0
            Windows XP / NT 5.1
      4. Windows Vista / NT 6.0
            Windows 7 / NT 6.1

    17. Re:Windows 7 by d0cu · · Score: 1

      NT 3.x NT 4.0 Win2k - 5.0 WinXp - 5.1 Vista - 6.0 (No next version will be called Win7) Win7 - 6.1 (probably) http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2008/10/15/final-release-of-windows-7-to-have-kernel-version-6-1

    18. Re:Windows 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They just started to number NT at the 3's to align with the roughly-same-time "other windows" 3.x: NT 4.0 = NT 4.0. Win 2k = NT 5.0. Win XP = NT 5.1. Vista=NT 6.0. 7=7.

  11. Azure? by jejones · · Score: 2, Funny

    I figured that they were tired of hearing about the BSOD, and "Azure screen of death" would at least sound nicer.

    1. Re:Azure? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      And the resulting acronym forms the first part of a sentence one might hear from a victim.

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    2. Re:Azure? by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      It's part of their overall plan to create the "Hooloovoo screen of death", an alien invasion plot where crashing machines generate the invaders.

  12. Second? Try third. by jspenguin1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Firefox was actually the third name. Its original name was Phoenix (it rose from the ashes of Netscape), but Phoenix Technologies raised a fuss. Then it became Firebird, and the Firebird database team raised a fuss. Then it became Firefox, and Debian didn't like that and called it IceWeasel. Anyone remember the FireSomething plugin that would randomly change the name.

    1. Re:Second? Try third. by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      Ubuntu also has a non-firefox-branded fork in the repos. Name? "Web Browser".
      (abrowser in the repos)

    2. Re:Second? Try third. by barzok · · Score: 4, Informative

      Then it became Firefox, and Debian didn't like that and called it IceWeasel.

      No, Debian was forced to rename it due to their stance on trademarks.

      The Firefox logo is trademarked, so Debian doesn't consider it to be Free and will not include it as part of its distribution. Mozilla claims that using the Firefox name without the official branding is a trademark violation.

      Furthermore, Mozilla claims that if Debian runs any patches to the version of Firefox included with Debian distros, it has to run them by Mozilla first for approval.

      http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3634591

    3. Re:Second? Try third. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then it became Firefox, and Debian didn't like that and called it IceWeasel.

      Firefox is trade marked, that is the problem!

      Debian strives to be 100% free of legal bullshit!

    4. Re:Second? Try third. by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The second iteration was actually probably the better, branding-wise.

      They were all set -- Firebird for web, Thunderbird for email, Sunbird for calendar -- even things like Songbird for music. I think there were even logos.

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    5. Re:Second? Try third. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget the Mac/Intel specific incarnation of Firefox known as "minefield."

    6. Re:Second? Try third. by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 2, Funny

      IceWeasel? No no, that is too close to sounding like a trademark law firm.

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    7. Re:Second? Try third. by Artuir · · Score: 1

      There's a post just above yours (at least with my filtering options) that says:

      "Debian had no objection whatever to calling it Firefox. Mozilla objected to Debian doing so."

      Modded up informative. Your post is modded up informative. They directly contradict. Moderators, stop being stupid!

    8. Re:Second? Try third. by Xtifr · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and then you gotta wonder why they didn't switch to Thunderfox and Sunfox and Songfox.

    9. Re:Second? Try third. by barzok · · Score: 1

      You assume that the moderators all think alike.

      Actually we're both right. Debian wanted to call it Firefox, but remove/change the logo due to the trademark issue. Mozilla said they couldn't use the name without using the logo.

    10. Re:Second? Try third. by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      Well, there's a whole new set of things you'd have to check to make sure they don't already exist.

      And I don't think they all have the same kick, either.

      The other strange part is the *monkey names -- I know of seamonkey, spidermonkey, and tracemonkey. I have no idea where "monkey" came from.

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  13. Re:Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's funny, I heard they called him "Windows" because he could frequently be spotted peeping through them.

  14. Debian was ok with Firefox by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Informative

    > Then it became Firefox, and Debian didn't like that and called it IceWeasel.

    Debian had no objection whatever to calling it Firefox. Mozilla objected to Debian doing so.

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    1. Re:Debian was ok with Firefox by prockcore · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Mozilla objected to Debian making a lot of changes to it and calling it Firefox.

      Considering how badly Debian screwed up OpenSSH, I don't blame Mozilla one bit. Debian should stop fucking with software they don't understand.

    2. Re:Debian was ok with Firefox by dbIII · · Score: 1

      It was all about the copyright of the logo and nothing to do with the actual program. Some idiot decided to make a big fuss so thought up an insulting name. This is what happens when you have a political committee and not developers running the thing - hopefully they will get bored and go away so that Debian can return to normal adult supervision instead of the political hacks they got in to attempt to provide "CEO style" adult supervision.

    3. Re:Debian was ok with Firefox by Walter+Carver · · Score: 1

      Debian didn't liked Mozilla's restrictions on the use of logos. So along with the logos the name had to go too.

    4. Re:Debian was ok with Firefox by Draek · · Score: 1

      Debian had no objection whatever to calling it Firefox. Mozilla objected to Debian doing so.

      Actually they didn't, Mozilla only objected to Debian's *users* doing so, not Debian themselves. But since "exclusive" deals are against the DFSG, new name it was.

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  15. The twitter name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Probably wanted to convey the idea of being in many places at once and making sure what you had to say would be heard, no matter what. Over and over and over again.

    Oh, and also annoy the hell out of everyone.

    What do you guys think?

    What? Wait... this is the microblogging service we're talking about, right?

  16. The real travesty by Liath · · Score: 1

    10 pages of less text than the average "First POSTO!" and non-photoshopped images to boot. This is worse than reading IDLE

  17. German naming process... by zappepcs · · Score: 5, Funny

    A couple decades back there was a German man with his own branding/naming company. A Japanese company, not satisfied with their experience for English speaking markets, called him up and asked him to help out with a new car. Naturally, he inquired as to the project timeline, due dates etc.

    Nervously, the Japanese marketer replied that they needed something for the following Monday.

    After a few moments pause, the German replied "Dat Soon? eh?"

    Later that same year he took a trip to London on business. While eating at a local steakhouse, he asked "what's dis here sauce?"

    1. Re:German naming process... by AdamWeeden · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have mod points, but I can't seem to find the "-1 Groan" or "-1 Throw a Tomato" mod options.

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    2. Re:German naming process... by dingen · · Score: 1

      I get Datsun, but what's the British car brand you're trying to joke about?

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    3. Re:German naming process... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not a car brand. The OP is aiming at Worcestershire Sauce .

    4. Re:German naming process... by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      Worcestershire sauce, but knowing German, it took me a while, because it really would have sounded like "Vawt ist here sauce"

    5. Re:German naming process... by carou · · Score: 4, Informative

      Pun fail.

      It's pronounced like ""wuster"".

    6. Re:German naming process... by zappepcs · · Score: 1

      Not in North America ... we tend to pronouce all those letters, why the hell else would they be in the word, if you are not supposed to pronounce them?

      Of course there are a lot of people here who think yall and y'all are different words, not to mention their frustration when trying to look up the spelling.

    7. Re:German naming process... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > It's pronounced like ""wuster"".

      Not around here, it ain't. "I'd like me some of that fancy worst-tee-shire sauce, please."

    8. Re:German naming process... by MythMoth · · Score: 1

      Not in North America ... we tend to pronouce all those letters

      Just for your information then, "herb" has an H in it. Also I look forward to hearing your pronunciation of "meringue".

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    9. Re:German naming process... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Again, fail.

      Worcester, the city in MA, is pronounced "wuster". The sauce, Worcestershire, is pronounced "woostasha" (says so in the first sentence of the Wikipedia article)

    10. Re:German naming process... by pcgabe · · Score: 1

      Not to be confused with Rooster Sauce.

      Speaking of "Wuster" sauce, when I lived in Japan my co-workers told me about a sauce they called "uster" sauce. Thinking that it was just another mispronunciation, and they really meant worcestershire sauce, I said I'd try it.

      Turns out, it was oyster sauce. Made with real oysters.

      Have I mentioned the part where I can't eat shellfish? :-(

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  18. Douchebag Tech. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to use this thread to advertise "Douchebag Tech".

    We make speakers to fit in windows to face to others in the neighborhood. We make software that writes songs for acoustic guitar the feigns sensitivity. We also provide fancy ear buds for your favorite MP3 music player. And we also provide BMW and Audi dealership coupons for the well-to-do douchebag that can make payments - we all know that really rich people who can pay cash don't buy shit like that!

    We, Douchbag Tech, offer your everyday show-off, low value, fancy tech needs.

  19. TEN pages?! by NorQue · · Score: 2, Insightful

    WTF? No way I'm clicking through that. Not even a fig leaf "print this article"-link there. And for what? A huge picture and three lines of text? Abominable.

    1. Re:TEN pages?! by residieu · · Score: 1

      For the most part, the stories aren't even that interesting. Wikipedia... that one's obvious. Windows and Mac OS, the 7th and 10th release. Android... well they bought a company called Android, no discussion of where THEY picked the name. Thinkpad, it just sounded good... Only mildly interesting one was the iPod.

    2. Re:TEN pages?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Here you go, I did the legwork for you
      ---------------------
      iPod: "Open the pod bay door, Hal"
      During Apple's MP3 player development, Steve Jobs spoke of Apple's strategy: the Mac as a hub to other gadgets. Vinnie Chieco, a freelance copywriter Apple hired to help name the gadget before its debut in 2001, fixed on that idea, according to Wired. He brainstormed hubs of all kinds, eventually coming to the concept of a spaceship. You could leave it, but you'd have to return to refuel. The stark plastic front of the prototype inspired the final connection: pod, a la 2001. Add an "i" and the connection to the iMac was complete.

      BlackBerry: Sweet Addictiveness
      Canada's Research in Motion called on Lexicon Branding to help name its new wireless e-mail device in 2001. The consultancy pushed RIM founders away from the word "e-mail," which research shows can raise blood pressure. Instead, they looked for a name that would evoke joy and somehow give feelings of peace. After someone made the connection that the small buttons on the device resembled a bunch of seeds, Lexicon's team (see profile) explored names like strawberry, melon and various vegetables before settling on blackberry - a word both pleasing and which evoked the black color of the device.

      Firefox: Second Time's a Charm
      Choosing a name that evokes a product's essence and is available can be quite complicated, as the Mozilla folks found out. The early version of Mozilla's browser was called Firebird, but due to another open-source project with the same name, the Mozilla elders renamed their browser Firefox, which is another name for red panda. Why? "It's easy to remember. It sounds good. It's unique. We like it," they said. Best of all? Nobody else was using it.

      Twitter: Connecting the Digital Flock 140 Characters at a Time
      When cofounder Biz Stone saw the application that Jack Dorsey created in 2006 he was reminded of the way birds communicate: "Short bursts of information...Everyone is chirping, having a good time." In response, Stone came up with "twttr," and the group eventually added some vowels. It's hard to think of a more evocative name in the tech world than twitter, but what began as what Stone described as "trivial" bursts of communication developed into a powerful means of networking, breaking news, and forum for the 44th U.S. president's campaign.

      Windows 7: Counting on the Power of 7
      While Microsoft's next OS is kind of a "Ho-hum" name, one has only to look at what happened with the most recent Windows release to understand why Microsoft might have gone back to a tried-and-true naming philosophy: Vista? Ouch. Windows 95 and XP? Those have done much better. Microsoft's Mike Nash announced the name this way: "Simply put, this is the seventh release of Windows, so therefore 'Windows 7' just makes sense." We're betting that Microsoft execs are hoping that number 7 will deliver on its promise of luck-they could sure use a win after Vista.

      ThinkPad: Simplicity Wins Out
      The venerable line of PC notebooks rolled onto the scene in 1992. While the concept was spot on, there was turmoil at IBM as to what to call it. IBM's pen-computing group wanted to keep it simple; they liked ThinkPad. But IBM's corporate naming committee didn't-it didn't have a number, and every IBM product had to have a number, and how would ThinkPad translate into other languages? Due to the chutzpah of the IBMer who unveiled it, ThinkPad won out, and it was a huge hit for IBM, which eventually sold it to Lenovo in 2005.

      Android: Secretive, But Still Not Exciting
      You'd think the story behind the naming of the Open Handset Alliance's new open-source platform for mobile devices, which includes the brand-new G1 loaded with Google's goodies, would be cool. But, uh, not so much. Back in 2005, Google quietly acquired a mysterious startup named Android Inc., which had been operating under "a cloak of secrecy" on "making software for mobile phones," reported Businessweek. The result of all Google's secrecy and Internet hype was the debut

  20. I wonder if the namer ever went to Malta... by StickInTheMud94 · · Score: 1

    The first thing I thought of when I heard about "Windows Azure" was whether mr. placek & co. had ever been to Malta... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azure_Window (I was there last year...it does the word "awesome" justice.)

  21. At least by jslarve · · Score: 1

    ..the Slashdot naming people did a great job. It speaks to it's reader base.

  22. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Indeed, the parent is right.

    It wasn't Debian which had any problems with the name "Firefox"; rather, Mozilla's terms of use for the trademarked name "Firefox" did not allow Debian to ship a version of the browser under that name with patches apply unless they'd received an OK from Mozilla first.

    Debian, naturally, was not able and willing to allow an outside party to have that kind of influence on the project; but Mozilla wasn't willing to budge on this, either, so therefore, Debian had to change the name (thereby avoiding the whole trademark issue altogether).

    1. Re:MOD PARENT UP by Cowmonaut · · Score: 1

      Which is another boon for Open Source but people would rather complain that Debian is stupid or FireFox is stupid, depending which fanboyism is stronger in the individual.

    2. Re:MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stupid weazel. I R make own web brozer.

  23. Re:Microsoft by dedazo · · Score: 1

    Maybe. But who's laughing now :)

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  24. For those interested in naming... by Radhruin · · Score: 1

    I read Wordcraft recently, and was highly entertained. It talks about the process of naming and follows a few names in detail, including BlackBerry and a few others.

  25. Thinkpad by doconnor · · Score: 1

    I thought the Thinkpad was named after IBM decades old corporate slogan, which is THINK.

  26. Gimp by mfh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Quick, someone mail this article... (Score:4, Funny)

    Yes, what you said is funny, but seriously now I had to pitch using a free image suite to a customer who was kinda penny-pinching, and when I suggested that we "bring out the GIMP" the customer started laughing at me, and they became somewhat violent. I ducked the coffee she threw at me, but only after I explained (while dodging numerous other desk utensils) that GIMP stood for "GNU Image Manipulation Program" did the abuse dwindle.

    And then she said, "What the hell does a GNU have to do with anything? You people are all fucking crazy!! ARRRRRGHHHHH!!!!" And she had a coronary and passed out from too much bacon and eggs... cholesterol rich, fatty foods, apparently add up over the years.

    Why couldn't they call it something like "Expensive Looking Free Graphics Suite" so like people could present it and be cheered for mentioning the product? The customer might have invited me to join her for a cup of coffee instead of hurl the damn thing at me. Although that tends to be reduced to "ELFGS" which sounds equally as annoying.

    Let's have a name-fork of the project! I vote for the name "Rez". That way, I could say, "MRS. Customer, we have just what you need in the Rez project, a free graphics utility. I'm not sure what this GIMP project is you keep balking at, but the last guy who brought up that project is a fool. Go with our project instead and we'll use Rez. It sounds cooler."

    Of course I'm joking around a little but apart from my exaggeration, this was the level of irritation expressed by said customer in regards to the GIMP moniker.

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    1. Re:Gimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's have a name-fork of the project! I vote for the name "Rez". That way, I could say, "MRS. Customer, we have just what you need in the Rez project, a free graphics utility.

      You forgot the most important part. Tell the customer is costs 500.00 per seat annually or 10,000.00 for a one-time site license. Business types do not want to hear free when it comes to software as they think free means unsupported.

    2. Re:Gimp by steelfood · · Score: 1

      What's really amusing is that you got modded interesting while GP got modded funny.

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    3. Re:Gimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think ELF GS or ELF Graphic Suite have a bad ring to them. Heck, with ELF GS, if someone asks what the GS stands for, you just say "Great software!"

    4. Re:Gimp by Dusthead+Jr. · · Score: 1

      If I were to create the end-all-be-all of graphics programs, being that IANAP, I would call it either 'Graphica', in the vein of Mathematica. I'm not quite sure what it does but I know it has something to do with math. Or I would call it 'Graphium' which sounds like a radioactive element and is the name of a butterfly.

    5. Re:Gimp by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      Let's have a name-fork of the project! I vote for the name "Rez".

      Taken.

    6. Re:Gimp by lennier · · Score: 1

      "Or I would call it 'Graphium' which sounds like a radioactive element and is the name of a butterfly."

      You might think you're kidding, but Adobe are right ahead of you, they already went there with their Creative Suite 3 icon sets that push the two-letter 'element' designations. Ps for Photoshop, Fl for Flash, etc.

      I kind of like Rez myself. Except it's got to have already been taken, right?

      But yes, GIMP is not quite the worst name ever, but up there in the top ten. It's deliberately and aggressively offensive and not open to discussion, and that is not an attitude that reflects well on the core dev team.

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    7. Re:Gimp by David+Gerard · · Score: 1

      This has already been done: CinePaint.

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    8. Re:Gimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PGs Progratis (professional graphics suite, Pro and gratis) yes extra pro.

      G-IMPressions-Pro

      ok too bad suggestions for renaming the GIMP. but you can do better (I hope)
      seriously how about an article dedicated to renaming the GIMP. A million or so Slashdot readers should be able to come up with a better name.

      Follow it up with a poll for the best names.

    9. Re:Gimp by arth1 · · Score: 1

      But yes, GIMP is not quite the worst name ever, but up there in the top ten. It's deliberately and aggressively offensive and not open to discussion, and that is not an attitude that reflects well on the core dev team.

      GIMP is only offensive if you think of the derogatory meaning of the word before the other more valid meaning of the word. And if so, that shows a problem with your attitude and/or education.

      There was a music program a couple of decades ago named "Fagott". I guess you would object to that too?

    10. Re:Gimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recently had an FDIC security examiner (I work in the banking industry) pressure my boss to make me remove the GIMP from my laptop - even after I explained what it was and that I use it for editing screenshots for software documentation. He said that any software with such an unprofessional name (especially open-source, therefore created by and for hackers) was "suspect." Not kidding.

    11. Re:Gimp by Raenex · · Score: 1

      I would call it either 'Graphica'

      Sounds like the name of a movie with sinister overtones.

    12. Re:Gimp by vuo · · Score: 1

      Actually they could rename it "Expensive Photo Shop". That'd take care of two things at once: dissing the competitor and promoting the software.

    13. Re:Gimp by Nesman64 · · Score: 1
      I've seen "Gimper" used to describe the person that applies finishing touches.

      The Prayer of Jabez [*] gives this explanation:

      A gimper, as Seume explained it, was someone who always does a little more than what's required or expected. In the furniture business, for example, gimping is putting the finishing touches on the upholstery, patiently applying the ornamental extras that are a mark of quality and value.

      There is also a GIMP community at gimper.net
      [*] Sorry for second-hand link, couldn't find good link to original.

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  27. Microsoft "Innovates" a lot by jonaskoelker · · Score: 3, Funny

    Who cares if we find out that you people at Microsoft haven't done any real work since 1990... we ALREADY KNOW THAT.

    Nah, their consumer OSes have seen the addition of memory protection. Beore then, Microsoft did some real doesn't-work.

  28. Red Hat by sorak · · Score: 1

    I am surprised that Red Hat had nothing to do with White Hat and Black Hat Hackers...I always assumed Red Hat was an option C; Not necessarily good, and not necessarily evil.

    1. Re:Red Hat by greatslack · · Score: 1

      I am surprised that Red Hat had nothing to do with White Hat and Black Hat Hackers...I always assumed Red Hat was an option C; Not necessarily good, and not necessarily evil.

      Yeah, that's what I always thought, too. Kind of like how a Red Mage is in between a Black Mage and a White Mage.

  29. "Pacific Telesis Group" by macraig · · Score: 1

    What I wanna know is why the idiot(s) who came up with this stinker of a name - Pacific Telesis Group - for Pacific Bell's holding company were able to not only keep their jobs but make out like bandits, to the tune of three quarters of a million dollars. That, of course, does not include the expense of re-signing the corporate vehicle fleet, changing stationery, and the like. Guess who got to foot the whole bill? (Forget about GOVERNMENT taxes: we're being "taxed" far worse as consumers by corporate excess and stupidity.)

    There's just as much stupidity in evidence in product and DBA names as there is genius; for every brilliant one there's a hundred mediocre ones and more than a few really bad ones. Logo design suffers and benefits about the same. I think this story would have been far more enlightening if it had focused on the boneheaded rather than the brilliant.

  30. A pretty poorly researched article by SageinaRage · · Score: 2, Insightful

    even considering the subject matter. It covers that wikipedia is wiki + encyclopedia, but offers nothing on how wikis got their name (a hawaiian bus system), it just says that android was made by a company named Android, and says that OSX is the 10th mac os, without even bothering to look into the cat names at all. The only one with an actual interesting answer was Red Hat.

    1. Re:A pretty poorly researched article by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      The only one with an actual interesting answer was Red Hat.

      Which is at least in part apocryphal. Anybody who's been to Lynah Rink or the basement lab in Upson Hall knows that red Cornell hats turn orange rapidly with regular wear. There's no way that "his grandfather's lacrosse cap" would still be recognizably red, some 40-plus years after first being worn.

    2. Re:A pretty poorly researched article by kitgerrits · · Score: 1
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  31. Now if we can just by The+Cisco+Kid · · Score: 2, Funny

    get online news websites to understand how the scrollbars work in a web browser, instead of breaking one 'page' into a dozen small ones that, instead of the whole article loading at once, and then being able to scroll smoothly, instead of having to click next, next, next, and have frustrating pauses while trying to read.

    After I read the first 'bit' and realized Id have to click, wait, click, wait to read the rest, I just closed the tab instead of bothering.

    Occasionally on sites like that there is a 'printable version' that gives the whole article as one, but lately it seems to just give a 'printable version' of that one bit of the story. /. editors - lets not encourage these sites by linking to them and giving them the ad traffic.

  32. Third time's a charm by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The article says that Firefox was the browser's second name, but during development Firebird was known as Phoenix. I forget what the reason for the first change was, but they're definitely on their third name.

    1. Re:Third time's a charm by the_other_chewey · · Score: 1

      ...during development Firebird was known as Phoenix.
      I forget what the reason for the first change was...

      The BIOS vendor.

    2. Re:Third time's a charm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a company by that name that brought it to their attention and they happily changed it to Firebird only to find out there was alrady an OSS database named Firebird.

  33. Why the vista bad mouthing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really I can't see whats wrong with Vista, I use the 64-Bit version and it runs happily on my computer; I know this sounds hard to believe but I haven't had any serious issues, the worst thing that has happened is my net dying and just using a simple winsock reset but apart from that its been fine. What am I missing thats such a problem?

  34. Re:Microsoft by BronsCon · · Score: 1

    I'd have to say, the ones who saw him peeping called him Windows and the ones who didn't called him Microsoft.

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  35. Think about it by mfh · · Score: 1

    It would be the moment he sold them.

    You need someone to be willing to purchase something, before you can sell it. $15bil today is $1mil tomorrow. I still wouldn't sneeze at $1mil, but in a world where $15bil can erode to $1mil, that $1mil is gonna be gone pretty quick.

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    1. Re:Think about it by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Are you saying that if he sold all his holdings then his personal net worth would still be linked somehow to Microsoft's market cap? Care to explain how?

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  36. Wiki by rossdee · · Score: 1

    I am sure the name "wiki' predates any Hawaiin bus system. (My mother had an Auntie Wiki, thpugh it was by marrige only, I can't claim any Maori ancestry)

    In 1840 the tribal chiefs of Aoteoroa signed the Treaty of with the British crown. The Sovereign at that time was Queen Victoria, who the Maori refered to as Wikitoria. That name became very popular for girls, many of whom were nicknamed "Wiki"

  37. Proposed new name for MS by Chicken_Kickers · · Score: 1

    Amen. And think about it... Micro-soft itself is a pretty ho-hum name, in fact it's downright lame.

    I couldn't agree more. I mean, what was Bill Gates thinking? When you hear Micro + Soft what is the first thing that comes to your (dirty) mind? Maybe it's time to rename the company to MacroHard or TurgidBlimb or RibbedGiant etc.

  38. Naming of Panasonic and Epson by jasmak · · Score: 3, Interesting
    My grandfather was involved in the naming of both of these rather large Japanese companies as a VP when they were trying to cross over to the U.S. and I have heard the stories hundreds of times so I figured this is a good venue to share them.

    Panasonic (Originally Matsushita) actually got the name of their company from a review of one of their speaker systems. The article said that they had great "all around sound." All around translates to pana and sound translates to sound.

    Epson (Originally Seiko) made a small printer named the EP-101 which was the worlds first compact, lightweight digital printer. My grandfather found large demand in it in the U.S. so they needed to create a new name to use(Seiko is a watch corp in the US). He told them the story about how Panasonic came about the name and left on a flight back stateside.

    When he got back, he had a message waiting already and they told him that they were naming it Epson. He told them that is a horrible idea because people would confuse it with epsom salt. They told him it was his fault because it was his idea and explained that they were naming it based on their first product sale like panasonic did. So the name comes from "son of EP" to the more consumer friendly Epson.

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    1. Re:Naming of Panasonic and Epson by novakreo · · Score: 1

      All around translates to pana and sound translates to sound.

      Sound translates to sound? Genius!

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  39. Hall of Fame by PMuse · · Score: 0

    Add your naming nominations here (tech or otherwise):

    • Pentium II
    • Celeron
    • Centrino
    • Athlon
    • Sempron
    • Opteron
    • Altria
    • Sensient
    • AT&T (2006 version)
    • viagra
    • claritin
    • zoloft
    • celebrex
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  40. Fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article hardly explores anything. Epic fail.

  41. Anonymous Howard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The name of Windows doesn't make a bit of difference. They could have called Windows XP "Windows Turd" If it works, it works, and people will use it. Vista doesn't work, therefore they decided to create Windows Turd, and call it Vista.

  42. Wiki is Hawaiian for "fast" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Quoth Wikipedia:

    WikiWikiWeb was the first site to be called a wiki. Ward Cunningham started developing WikiWikiWeb in 1994, and installed it on the Internet domain c2.com on March 25, 1995. It was named by Cunningham, who remembered a Honolulu International Airport counter employee telling him to take the "Wiki Wiki" shuttle bus that runs between the airport's terminals. According to Cunningham, "I chose wiki-wiki as an alliterative substitute for 'quick' and thereby avoided naming this stuff quick-web."

  43. Xtree Xtree by Aussie · · Score: 1

    Xtree Xtree, Read all about it.

    Now that was a good product name. Xtree History

  44. How Windows Azure got its name - True Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The code name for the project was "Blue." I guess "Azure" sounded more sophisticated.

    How much did MS pay for someone to come up with that?

  45. My favorite... by msauve · · Score: 1

    was always Soroc Technology, which made great terminals back in the '70s. The name came from a rearrangement of the beer brand Coors, and their logo looked like the top of a beer can.

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  47. Obligatory PA comic by macshome · · Score: 1

    http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/4/28/whence-wii/

    There is even a good podcast that goes along with the creation of this strip...

  48. How hard it is? by mike_sucks · · Score: 1

    It couldn't have been too hard, Microsoft clearly just stole "Azure" from me: http://web.vee.net/projects/azure/

    Hmph.

    /Mike

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  49. Tech names used to be meaningful....mostly by markh1967 · · Score: 1

    It seems that these days tech names don't have to mean anything and, in fact, the more meaningless the better; if you make up a new word you can be sure that searches for it will only return sites relevent to your product. I miss the old days where tech names were generally meaningful, if a bit obscure, but there were some noteable exceptions that sounded meaningful but weren't. A couple that spring to mind are KERMIT (an old BBS file transfer protocol) which had several theories about what it was an acronym for before its creator finally admitted he just named it after the muppet and TWAIN (scanner data protocol) which stands for 'Technology Without An Interesting Name'.

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  50. Speaking of names by Dave+Tucker+Online · · Score: 1

    I have a product that switches a video CODEC between multiple networks of different security classifications. Anybody have any ideas for a good name?