IANAL, but look into what happens when you call a place that tells you, "this call may be monitored or recorded for quality blah," which is most of them. If you staying on the line means you consent and they have notice, that likely qualifies as two-party consent.
From TFO. Gives me hope that this will be a movie containing people acting with one another, as opposed to certain other long-awaited sequels filled with monologues in bluescreen chambers...
Then again, Mark Whitby, a witness to the shooting, told Reuters that he observed Menezes wearing a large winter coat, which "looked out of place".
Anthony Larkin, another eyewitness, told the BBC that Menezes appeared to be wearing a "bomb belt with wires coming out."
- Wiki
Unfortunately, we need to remember just how unreliable passer-by eyewitnesses really are; and the ability of your average citizen to suddenly "remember" exciting details about events, when told that those events may be been important, dangerous or controversial.
... which makes it even more important to the powers that be that Wikileaks be made example of. They can't let it stand without a response of some kind. It would be nice if the response consisted of saying "Yeah, that's right, diplomacy can be ugly stuff and every country we deal with knows it and does the same thing, carry on," and tightening up their security, but hey, I'm a dreamer.
And hey, hows about our good friends the Saudis, eh?
I seem to recall a number of economists and poli sci students in the early 90s smugly telling me all about a component of the Soviet Union's cold war "loss" and economic collapse: the US making them think they had to spend more and more in the arms race with us (zomg, USA can destroy the world 10 times over, we can only do it 5 times, build more nukes comrade!). A pretty shaky social contract, to begin with, finally got kicked in the nuts one too many times. C/D?
I would alter "do not mind" to "have no clue and don't understand the potential implications of." The end result will be a highly controlled everything, because people are neither taught nor encouraged to think about things that don't relate to their immediate button-pushing responsibilities, coupled with a fair amount of casual despair about having any control over their own lives.
Most enduser types I've talked to about such things tend to give me lines like "Ah, none of this stuff affects me," "Whaddyagonna do, they'll do what they want anyway" and "Pfff, they wouldn't do anything really bad."
Did you take the computer with all the sensitive info too?
Did you take your brain with all its sensitive info too?
I'm sorry, citizen; you have been fired. We simply cannot allow you to leave the premises until we have proof that you've emptied your brain.
Yes, i know, insert "become management" joke here...
What it tells you, of course, is that the military wants you to keep China Is The Bad Guy And A Growing Threat in the back of your mind, in case this current Terrerist thing backfires or grows old or, who knows, is won some how... the meaningless string of words is typed up by the Pentagon and printed on a piece of letterhead that says For Immediate Release. The "independent" media takes it and parrots it across the infosphere without thought, investigation, criticism, or question... you know, those things we were told made up "journalism." Once it appears with the magic incantation AP as preface, it is now Fact and Truth. The Public Has Been Duly Informed. Go about your business, citizen.
Does this mean China isn't a threat, actual or potential? Not at all. Just cause the gummint decides to tell you something doesn't always mean it's a lie, y'know! And there must be parts of the military that have grade-A migraines watching American businesses get on its collective knees before Chinese gov't demands, again and again - if the time comes when it's necessary to seperate them, how large a crowbar will be necessary?
IT departments are going to keep everything patched, and individuals aren't going to do it to themselves on their LANS.
lolwut?
In other news, management will stop overriding IT's security concerns for the sake of convenience and/or budget, and users will stop clicking random facebook links when bored at work. Are you kidding? Which internet do you spend your time on? 'Cause in the one i frequent, most security problems are caused precisely BECAUSE of a delectable combo of unpatched vulnerabilities, and user gullibilities.
[quote]Covering CO2 under the Clean Air Act would completely hamstring American businesses,[/quote]
Oh god here we go again. You know, only out of complete ignorance of what other countries are doing could you make this statement with a straight face.
Please consider never providing contrived works of fiction as "proof" for important issues.
I can't stand this "scared straight" crap. It undermines the real issue by relegating it to the same level as any other movie special effects. It's like the "crack kills" campagins of the late 80s and early 90s. The only problem with extreme, over the top, graphic fakes is you're showing them to kids who watch graphic horror for fun and have, themselves, done exactly what you're telling them will cause Certain Doom, many time - with no ill effects. For drugs, telling people they'll overdose and die on the first hit only works if the target of your BS has never tried it, or doesn't know anyone who's tried it, or doesn't go out themselves the next day and try it - and not die. Now your credibility is zero, and you'll never get their attention again.
Leave marketing to consumer goods. Provide real examples for real issues.
Are you really naive enough to believe that someone in business is -only- there to make a profit? Do they cease being human beings with wide-ranging values and mores just because they own a company? So all business owners are monsters to you? You've been brain-washed that badly, eh?
I said none of those things; read again. You projected your own bias on to me; then proceeded to call me brain-washed; followed by a wall of text quoting capitalist dogma. Sorry, i can't really take that seriously.
You didn't address what i said; you chose to attack what you think i believe in based on your own preconceptions of someone who criticises any aspect of capitalism. You didn't open a dialogue; you quoted chapter and verse from the most idealistic aspects of business-as-religion, despite the many real-world examples that prove that businesses don't *always* display the rational-actor characteristics we'd like them to.
That's the second nonprofit hospital reference... but we're talking about, i thought, health care as a complete system. That means your GP, specialists, peds, geriatric care, meds, insurers, etc. The whole life cycle of care. Hospitals, hopefully, won't come up too many times per year for the average person.
I'm not sure i should even go into religious schooling.
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IANAL, but look into what happens when you call a place that tells you, "this call may be monitored or recorded for quality blah," which is most of them. If you staying on the line means you consent and they have notice, that likely qualifies as two-party consent.
From TFO. Gives me hope that this will be a movie containing people acting with one another, as opposed to certain other long-awaited sequels filled with monologues in bluescreen chambers...
Way to again mis-state the liberal position. They really need to create an emoticon for you people to save time.
Then fix the statement, instead of resorting to a "you people" insult with no added content.
Then again,
Mark Whitby, a witness to the shooting, told Reuters that he observed Menezes wearing a large winter coat, which "looked out of place".
Anthony Larkin, another eyewitness, told the BBC that Menezes appeared to be wearing a "bomb belt with wires coming out."
- Wiki
Unfortunately, we need to remember just how unreliable passer-by eyewitnesses really are; and the ability of your average citizen to suddenly "remember" exciting details about events, when told that those events may be been important, dangerous or controversial.
Rubbish. The US government has no motive
Right, because we never punish anyone after the fact to make an example out of them...
... which makes it even more important to the powers that be that Wikileaks be made example of. They can't let it stand without a response of some kind. It would be nice if the response consisted of saying "Yeah, that's right, diplomacy can be ugly stuff and every country we deal with knows it and does the same thing, carry on," and tightening up their security, but hey, I'm a dreamer.
And hey, hows about our good friends the Saudis, eh?
I seem to recall a number of economists and poli sci students in the early 90s smugly telling me all about a component of the Soviet Union's cold war "loss" and economic collapse: the US making them think they had to spend more and more in the arms race with us (zomg, USA can destroy the world 10 times over, we can only do it 5 times, build more nukes comrade!). A pretty shaky social contract, to begin with, finally got kicked in the nuts one too many times. C/D?
I would alter "do not mind" to "have no clue and don't understand the potential implications of." The end result will be a highly controlled everything, because people are neither taught nor encouraged to think about things that don't relate to their immediate button-pushing responsibilities, coupled with a fair amount of casual despair about having any control over their own lives.
Most enduser types I've talked to about such things tend to give me lines like "Ah, none of this stuff affects me," "Whaddyagonna do, they'll do what they want anyway" and "Pfff, they wouldn't do anything really bad."
That's why mandatory recount rules kick in,
Oh whew, good thing too. 'Cause as we all know, partisan politics or outright corruption could never stop a mandatory recount. That's crazy talk.
But taxation isn't violent or forceful.
Really? Try not paying.
Did you take the computer with all the sensitive info too?
Did you take your brain with all its sensitive info too?
I'm sorry, citizen; you have been fired. We simply cannot allow you to leave the premises until we have proof that you've emptied your brain.
Yes, i know, insert "become management" joke here...
What it tells you, of course, is that the military wants you to keep China Is The Bad Guy And A Growing Threat in the back of your mind, in case this current Terrerist thing backfires or grows old or, who knows, is won some how... the meaningless string of words is typed up by the Pentagon and printed on a piece of letterhead that says For Immediate Release. The "independent" media takes it and parrots it across the infosphere without thought, investigation, criticism, or question... you know, those things we were told made up "journalism." Once it appears with the magic incantation AP as preface, it is now Fact and Truth. The Public Has Been Duly Informed. Go about your business, citizen.
Does this mean China isn't a threat, actual or potential? Not at all. Just cause the gummint decides to tell you something doesn't always mean it's a lie, y'know! And there must be parts of the military that have grade-A migraines watching American businesses get on its collective knees before Chinese gov't demands, again and again - if the time comes when it's necessary to seperate them, how large a crowbar will be necessary?
IT departments are going to keep everything patched, and individuals aren't going to do it to themselves on their LANS.
lolwut?
In other news, management will stop overriding IT's security concerns for the sake of convenience and/or budget, and users will stop clicking random facebook links when bored at work. Are you kidding? Which internet do you spend your time on? 'Cause in the one i frequent, most security problems are caused precisely BECAUSE of a delectable combo of unpatched vulnerabilities, and user gullibilities.
[quote]Covering CO2 under the Clean Air Act would completely hamstring American businesses,[/quote] Oh god here we go again. You know, only out of complete ignorance of what other countries are doing could you make this statement with a straight face.
Please consider never providing contrived works of fiction as "proof" for important issues.
I can't stand this "scared straight" crap. It undermines the real issue by relegating it to the same level as any other movie special effects. It's like the "crack kills" campagins of the late 80s and early 90s. The only problem with extreme, over the top, graphic fakes is you're showing them to kids who watch graphic horror for fun and have, themselves, done exactly what you're telling them will cause Certain Doom, many time - with no ill effects. For drugs, telling people they'll overdose and die on the first hit only works if the target of your BS has never tried it, or doesn't know anyone who's tried it, or doesn't go out themselves the next day and try it - and not die. Now your credibility is zero, and you'll never get their attention again.
Leave marketing to consumer goods. Provide real examples for real issues.
which led to situations like characters assassinating ''gods'' like Thor to gain their nifty weapons.
...which is basically the endgame of WoW.
Robot season!
Droid season!
Robot season!
Droid season!
NO TOURBOTS.
No, Steve... not pie... Pi!
lolwut...? blue-skinned pointy-eared tall skinny dudes on dragons in a landscape with inexplicably floating landmasses. Uh...
Small nitpick but they aren't 'murderers' when they were found innocent by a jury of their peers.
Whew, I feel so much better about OJ now.
Well, technically i said "responsibility," not "motivation" or even "method" :)
Hmm? That's my point... not enough people DO know about common threats, and if they did, they wouldn't be as effective.
Are you really naive enough to believe that someone in business is -only- there to make a profit? Do they cease being human beings with wide-ranging values and mores just because they own a company? So all business owners are monsters to you? You've been brain-washed that badly, eh?
I said none of those things; read again. You projected your own bias on to me; then proceeded to call me brain-washed; followed by a wall of text quoting capitalist dogma. Sorry, i can't really take that seriously.
You didn't address what i said; you chose to attack what you think i believe in based on your own preconceptions of someone who criticises any aspect of capitalism. You didn't open a dialogue; you quoted chapter and verse from the most idealistic aspects of business-as-religion, despite the many real-world examples that prove that businesses don't *always* display the rational-actor characteristics we'd like them to.
That's the second nonprofit hospital reference... but we're talking about, i thought, health care as a complete system. That means your GP, specialists, peds, geriatric care, meds, insurers, etc. The whole life cycle of care. Hospitals, hopefully, won't come up too many times per year for the average person.
I'm not sure i should even go into religious schooling.