If this is wireless I can see someone stealing one of these little suckers, getting the encryption code, and getting access to tons of info they shouldn't have. I could be wrong...just a speculation that made my eyes bigger for a second while reading this.
You have to remember that people LOVE to patent something and sue larger corporations like Microsoft. They're probably just being smart & heading off a potential lawsuit when some wise guy decides to patent using skin in this manner & sues the pants off Microsoft in some lame frivolous lawsuit. There are many instances that point the other direction...like Gateway suing the owner of gateway.com, who had owned the domain name long before they came into existance. Microsoft suing over using skin is not likely. I'm pretty sure this is defensive in nature.
I love the idea but Ann Richards said the same thing for funding schools to get the lottery in Texas. Now we're trying to find ways to fund schools again and not a penny goes to schools from the lottery. When state controls the lottery they $$ never goes where they say it will. Its been that way in every state unfortunately. The idea is awesome. The people who carry out the idea are...well....lawyers & politicians.
The problem usually lies in users having dynamic IPs (AOL, dialup, whatever) so that you can't limit by source IP. Using telnet is just crazy since its unencrypted and can be sniffed by any user (with priveliges to the socket of course) on the segment or logged into the server.
Never in my life have I seen so many off-topic posts be moderated up for MS bashing. You can probably count the # of posts actually discussing the bug in the article on one hand.
So...from the article.
Using this exploit to crash Linux systems requires the (ab)user to have shell access. The program works on any normal user account, root access is not required.
This is bad considering how many *nix systems have telnet open on the outside. It also posts the code to crash with on the website. Any idiot can cut & paste it & compile with gcc.
The exploit was reported as gcc bug 15905 2004-06-09.
Wow a story posted within 5 days on slashdot. I'm impressed. Usually everyone knows about an exploit and its patched before we get to MS bash while *nix has a hole. FYI patches are listed on the site if you read the article. I'm interested to know how many used them.
It also doesn't help that it won't autoupdate service packs
Uhh...yeah it does. SP1 came via critical updates and took FOREVER to get on the first day when everyone was getting it at the same time. Also if you don't have something like.net installed it won't make you install critical updates for.net. Same with several other apps.
When I read slashdot I get the opposite feeling. *nix users feel they are secure just because they aren't running Microsoft. I've even got into arguments with people who thing they're secure running out-of-box configs & use telnet to the external interface rather than SSH. I know there are many who update, but there aren't as many as you would think. How many actually go and search for updates to software that up2date or yum doesn't list yet? Very few!
Ok lets get back on topic. This isn't about Windows. Its a story on a kernel bug.
How do you exchange a file with a colleague or a photograph with a family member? Chances are that you cut the desired element and paste it into your e-mail program to send it
I don't know about your friends but I've got some real winners who just keep forwarding until the original info is nested 40 layers deep. argh!
Anyone know much about these things? Speed? Power consumption advantages/disadvantages? This just seems like a VP presentation spew about "we're using this. good day.".
Then really why do I have an email addy in the first place?
Yeah and my friends of the female persuasion can't help but put my email addy on all of those greeting card sites. I had one put my email addy to my cell phone on one of those sites once and I went nuts. 5 cents/email if I go over my limit....I was gonna have to turn my service off.
I read a magazine article addressing the "trickling down of funds". Basically...it doesn't happen in many of them. The few who get the casinos get all the profit and the others on the reservations are living in poverty. Its sad really and I wish I had an online link to the story. I believe it was in National Geographic. I'm sure there are exceptions to this.
I used to work for a company (which will remain nameless) that installed networks for public schools. You wouldn't BELIEVE what they charged. It was way up in the 6 digits just for the cat-5 runs. Then they would have their $15,000 router I was supposed to install with no WAN. I was supposed to "make it blink and serve DHCP or something". Needless to say I quit when I was repeatedly asked to lie for my boss about why they had a million dollars worth of hardware for a grade-school lab. My guess is someone did the same thing to this tribe after they found out how much the grant was. Inflat x% until you use up the whole amount.
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Yeah thats what I'm saying. I'm sure there are much better ways to do this and much better technology to use that isn't so easily hijacked.
If this is wireless I can see someone stealing one of these little suckers, getting the encryption code, and getting access to tons of info they shouldn't have. I could be wrong...just a speculation that made my eyes bigger for a second while reading this.
I dunno. If I had the $$ I'd buy something even better! Everyone could use a 92" flat screen ;)
With less than 256M of RAM, XP *will* run that slow. I don't know how much RAM they had, just a thought to keep in mind.
The scene where the electrician grabs 2 wires to make a connection on the sub in Up Periscope comes to mind...hehe.
You have to remember that people LOVE to patent something and sue larger corporations like Microsoft. They're probably just being smart & heading off a potential lawsuit when some wise guy decides to patent using skin in this manner & sues the pants off Microsoft in some lame frivolous lawsuit. There are many instances that point the other direction...like Gateway suing the owner of gateway.com, who had owned the domain name long before they came into existance. Microsoft suing over using skin is not likely. I'm pretty sure this is defensive in nature.
You guys hiring?
21.06.2004 Skype for Linux; Beta version 0.90.0.3
Initial version
Scary...just says Initial version in the release notes.
I'm not claiming. I'm quoting the link I gave. It was all cut & paste.
I mean come on....sports bras and golf ball aerodynamics....what would the world be without it? Source: here
I love the idea but Ann Richards said the same thing for funding schools to get the lottery in Texas. Now we're trying to find ways to fund schools again and not a penny goes to schools from the lottery. When state controls the lottery they $$ never goes where they say it will. Its been that way in every state unfortunately. The idea is awesome. The people who carry out the idea are...well....lawyers & politicians.
The problem usually lies in users having dynamic IPs (AOL, dialup, whatever) so that you can't limit by source IP. Using telnet is just crazy since its unencrypted and can be sniffed by any user (with priveliges to the socket of course) on the segment or logged into the server.
So...from the article.
Using this exploit to crash Linux systems requires the (ab)user to have shell access. The program works on any normal user account, root access is not required.
This is bad considering how many *nix systems have telnet open on the outside. It also posts the code to crash with on the website. Any idiot can cut & paste it & compile with gcc.
The exploit was reported as gcc bug 15905 2004-06-09.
Wow a story posted within 5 days on slashdot. I'm impressed. Usually everyone knows about an exploit and its patched before we get to MS bash while *nix has a hole. FYI patches are listed on the site if you read the article. I'm interested to know how many used them.
Uhh...yeah it does. SP1 came via critical updates and took FOREVER to get on the first day when everyone was getting it at the same time. Also if you don't have something like .net installed it won't make you install critical updates for .net. Same with several other apps.
When I read slashdot I get the opposite feeling. *nix users feel they are secure just because they aren't running Microsoft. I've even got into arguments with people who thing they're secure running out-of-box configs & use telnet to the external interface rather than SSH. I know there are many who update, but there aren't as many as you would think. How many actually go and search for updates to software that up2date or yum doesn't list yet? Very few!
Ok lets get back on topic. This isn't about Windows. Its a story on a kernel bug.
I don't know about your friends but I've got some real winners who just keep forwarding until the original info is nested 40 layers deep. argh!
I can attest to this. I'm dual booting my Sony Vaio 500MHz with 2K and Fedora. Fedora takes like 5 mins to boot. I still use it but its sickening.
Well I run DOS and it fits on ONE FLOPPY and can run on 640K of RAM (enough for anybody!).
When encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption.
You can have my encrytpion when you pry it from my cold dead hands...er...PDA.
And 640K of memory should be enough for anybody ;)
Anyone know much about these things? Speed? Power consumption advantages/disadvantages? This just seems like a VP presentation spew about "we're using this. good day.".
Then really why do I have an email addy in the first place?
Yeah and my friends of the female persuasion can't help but put my email addy on all of those greeting card sites. I had one put my email addy to my cell phone on one of those sites once and I went nuts. 5 cents/email if I go over my limit....I was gonna have to turn my service off.
I read a magazine article addressing the "trickling down of funds". Basically...it doesn't happen in many of them. The few who get the casinos get all the profit and the others on the reservations are living in poverty. Its sad really and I wish I had an online link to the story. I believe it was in National Geographic. I'm sure there are exceptions to this.
I used to work for a company (which will remain nameless) that installed networks for public schools. You wouldn't BELIEVE what they charged. It was way up in the 6 digits just for the cat-5 runs. Then they would have their $15,000 router I was supposed to install with no WAN. I was supposed to "make it blink and serve DHCP or something". Needless to say I quit when I was repeatedly asked to lie for my boss about why they had a million dollars worth of hardware for a grade-school lab. My guess is someone did the same thing to this tribe after they found out how much the grant was. Inflat x% until you use up the whole amount.
It has one. It's been compiling the 1.0 kernel since 1.0 was new. It should be finished in about 4 years.