The Federalist Party went away ~1825 as the Democrat-Republicans were winning just about every election there was. The Whig party formed, and started campaigning to the more conservative voters. This started the migration. Over the next 150 years or so, the Democratic Party continued moving towards a more liberal plank, with the Whigs dissolving and the current Republican party forming on the conservative side again. With the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s, the segregationists of the Democratic party were fed up, and several moderate Republican presidents managed to get many of them to migrate over - Nixon in the 1970s, and Reagan in the 1980s.
The "Southern Democrats" of the 1960s were the "Reagan Republicans" of the 1980s.
How can you not see the exchange of ideology? Jefferson's Democrat-Republican party (now the Democrats, today's Republican party came about ~40 years later with Abraham Lincoln) was a party of mostly farmers, who were opposed to a powerful central government authority. They opposed a party (the Federalists) that was mostly populated from cities in the Northeast, who wanted the Federal government to be the answer to most questions.
Today, the farmers who are opposed to a powerful central government authority are predominantly Republican, and the cities of the Northeast who want the Federal government to be the answer to most questions are overwhelmingly Democrat. Slavery, and the Civil Rights Act tore the Democratic party in half, and the party plank landed where it should be - on the side of all people regardless of race. The segregationists, unfortunately, found refuge in the Republican party, except they couldn't direct their hate at blacks anymore (publicly).
By the way, I'm a registered Republican, so don't paint me as being some GOP-basher. I'm ashamed of the direction that the Party of Lincoln is going. If it keeps up, they'll be going the way of the Whigs and the Federalists - losing elections until they are irrelevant, and the party dissolves.
The Democrats started out as an opposition party to the Federalists under Thomas Jefferson, and didn't want a strong central government. If you don't like their brand of governing, you really wouldn't have liked the Federalists.
Andrew Jackson was a member of the "Democratic Republican" party, which completely dominated and dissolved the Federalist party over a span of about 20 years from when Thomas Jefferson was elected President. The Federalists had public opinion turn against them for many partisan acts that make today's political splits look like a crack in a parking lot. In a lame duck session of the Senate right before John Adams left office, they created a series of Federal Appeals Courts and packed it with Federalist judges to prevent things from getting to the Supreme Court, promoted officers in the Army based on if they were Federalist or not, and campaigned on the wrong side of history on many historical events, such as the Alien and Sedition Acts, the Louisiana Purchase, and the ensuing Lewis and Clark Expedition. in 1798, the House of Representatives was 57% Federalist and the US Senate was 69% Federalist. By 1820, the House was 83% Democratic-Republican, and the Senate was 92% Democratic-Republican.
Over the course of history, the "Democratic Republican" party dropped the "Republican" word from their name; though the current Republican party is referred to as the "Grand Old Party", it was born from the ashes of the Whig party in the time of Lincoln, 40 years later. The current Democratic party is actually older, and the same party that Jefferson founded.
You are, however, correct when you say that the doctrine of the Democratic party has shifted - it began as a party that was mostly populated with farmers, opposed to a strong Federal government. Cities in the northeast were Federalist strongholds, where the southern and mid-atlantic states were Democratic. These are now deeply Democratic territories.
There was a permanent solution decided on in the 70s, built in the 80s and 90s, and then suspended / cancelled by everyone's favorite Senior Senator from Nevada after the >$90B was spent on construction jobs in his state.
But somehow people think that's the engineers' fault?
The Columbia Nuclear Generating Station would disagree with your assertion that Hanford does not also have a nuclear power plant at the site.
The Hanford Site began life as a plutonium production facility, but as time went on, the site has migrated from specifically being a weapons manufacturing facility to a DoE facility for all-things-nuclear. And, if Yucca Mountain could ever open, they could start cleaning the god damn place up a little.
Remember 10 years ago when the iPhone came out, and all it had was web apps, and everyone bitched and moaned that they hadn't published developer tools and an API to code against?
And this was when there actually was enough innovation in mobile browsers, as Safari Mobile made every other browser on every other phone look like a joke, leading to WebKit (and it's descendants) to rule the browser market today.
And it's absolutely Apple's fault that Intel isn't increasing the performance of their chips.
There's people in this thread complaining that they haven't refreshed the CPUs in MacBook Pro, and at the same time bitching that there isn't a large delta of performance between this MacBook and the last one. What is Apple supposed to do when their supplier doesn't deliver components that compel an upgrade? Should they release a new version or not?
Short version: people are just bitching because Apple. Apple is doing nothing here that Lenovo, HP, and Dell haven't already done; for some reason Lenovo, HP, and Dell get a pass on it.
I completely forgot about all those times we threatened to move the Abraham Lincoln carrier battle group into the North Sea if Brussels if they didn't do what they were told. And I also completely forgot about how France had been a full participant in the completely misguided war in Iraq in 2003 - no wait, that's right - they completely abstained and said it was stupid and unnecessary. And then we bombed Paris... no, that didn't happen either.
I think it's clear why you posted that drivel as Anonymous Coward.
I really don't know how you got all that from my single sentence, except that you have your head wedged WAY up your ass, and enjoy putting words in people's mouths.
Yeah, because decades of research into particle physics and fusion power is definitely something that a private corporation is going to do with no practical immediate uses available in the next 6 quarters.
Government R&D definitely has it's place, and anyone that says otherwise is a damn fool.
Yeah, because there's absolutely nothing to worry about when another government says that they are going to preemptively strike you or your allies with nuclear weapons on a weekly basis.
There's no place in the world today for that kind of bullshit, and even China is acting against them at the UN. I have no idea what the hell is with people defending North Korea's behavior here.
He got some porn on the battery?
Alexander Hamilton is on the $10 and the closest he got to being President was Treasury Secretary, and a senior aide to George Washington.
Benjamin Franklin was also not a President, and he's on the $100 bill.
It didn't happen like that.
The Federalist Party went away ~1825 as the Democrat-Republicans were winning just about every election there was. The Whig party formed, and started campaigning to the more conservative voters. This started the migration. Over the next 150 years or so, the Democratic Party continued moving towards a more liberal plank, with the Whigs dissolving and the current Republican party forming on the conservative side again. With the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s, the segregationists of the Democratic party were fed up, and several moderate Republican presidents managed to get many of them to migrate over - Nixon in the 1970s, and Reagan in the 1980s.
The "Southern Democrats" of the 1960s were the "Reagan Republicans" of the 1980s.
How can you not see the exchange of ideology? Jefferson's Democrat-Republican party (now the Democrats, today's Republican party came about ~40 years later with Abraham Lincoln) was a party of mostly farmers, who were opposed to a powerful central government authority. They opposed a party (the Federalists) that was mostly populated from cities in the Northeast, who wanted the Federal government to be the answer to most questions.
Today, the farmers who are opposed to a powerful central government authority are predominantly Republican, and the cities of the Northeast who want the Federal government to be the answer to most questions are overwhelmingly Democrat. Slavery, and the Civil Rights Act tore the Democratic party in half, and the party plank landed where it should be - on the side of all people regardless of race. The segregationists, unfortunately, found refuge in the Republican party, except they couldn't direct their hate at blacks anymore (publicly).
By the way, I'm a registered Republican, so don't paint me as being some GOP-basher. I'm ashamed of the direction that the Party of Lincoln is going. If it keeps up, they'll be going the way of the Whigs and the Federalists - losing elections until they are irrelevant, and the party dissolves.
Correct - we have two corporatist parties, where one is for abortion and the other is not.
The Democrats started out as an opposition party to the Federalists under Thomas Jefferson, and didn't want a strong central government. If you don't like their brand of governing, you really wouldn't have liked the Federalists.
Yes and no.
Andrew Jackson was a member of the "Democratic Republican" party, which completely dominated and dissolved the Federalist party over a span of about 20 years from when Thomas Jefferson was elected President. The Federalists had public opinion turn against them for many partisan acts that make today's political splits look like a crack in a parking lot. In a lame duck session of the Senate right before John Adams left office, they created a series of Federal Appeals Courts and packed it with Federalist judges to prevent things from getting to the Supreme Court, promoted officers in the Army based on if they were Federalist or not, and campaigned on the wrong side of history on many historical events, such as the Alien and Sedition Acts, the Louisiana Purchase, and the ensuing Lewis and Clark Expedition. in 1798, the House of Representatives was 57% Federalist and the US Senate was 69% Federalist. By 1820, the House was 83% Democratic-Republican, and the Senate was 92% Democratic-Republican.
Over the course of history, the "Democratic Republican" party dropped the "Republican" word from their name; though the current Republican party is referred to as the "Grand Old Party", it was born from the ashes of the Whig party in the time of Lincoln, 40 years later. The current Democratic party is actually older, and the same party that Jefferson founded.
You are, however, correct when you say that the doctrine of the Democratic party has shifted - it began as a party that was mostly populated with farmers, opposed to a strong Federal government. Cities in the northeast were Federalist strongholds, where the southern and mid-atlantic states were Democratic. These are now deeply Democratic territories.
Of course it was complete bullshit. This is why the parent post is ridiculous.
Yeah, that really helps after 60 years of waste has already been made.
Why don't you go back to the 1940s and give General Leslie Groves your oh-so-insightful commentary and see how that works out.
There was a permanent solution decided on in the 70s, built in the 80s and 90s, and then suspended / cancelled by everyone's favorite Senior Senator from Nevada after the >$90B was spent on construction jobs in his state.
But somehow people think that's the engineers' fault?
You have to remember that Hanford doesn't exactly have a long history of trust with the local populous. From the 'downwinders' of the 1950s and 60s, and the several TBq of radioactive material that was released into the Columbia River daily for several decades, there isn't exactly a whole lot of "well if you say so" left in the local populations.
The Columbia Nuclear Generating Station would disagree with your assertion that Hanford does not also have a nuclear power plant at the site.
The Hanford Site began life as a plutonium production facility, but as time went on, the site has migrated from specifically being a weapons manufacturing facility to a DoE facility for all-things-nuclear. And, if Yucca Mountain could ever open, they could start cleaning the god damn place up a little.
Because smoking a cigarette has completely different physical effects than excess drinking of alcohol?
False equivalence is false.
Except that porn cannot be completely banned by government, as it is the inevitable expression of free speech, which is enshrined in the Constitution.
Short version: Good luck with that.
Wow, so the worm has turned.
Remember 10 years ago when the iPhone came out, and all it had was web apps, and everyone bitched and moaned that they hadn't published developer tools and an API to code against?
And this was when there actually was enough innovation in mobile browsers, as Safari Mobile made every other browser on every other phone look like a joke, leading to WebKit (and it's descendants) to rule the browser market today.
Delete the 'somewhat' from that last sentence and you are describing the United States Presidential Primary.
And it's absolutely Apple's fault that Intel isn't increasing the performance of their chips.
There's people in this thread complaining that they haven't refreshed the CPUs in MacBook Pro, and at the same time bitching that there isn't a large delta of performance between this MacBook and the last one. What is Apple supposed to do when their supplier doesn't deliver components that compel an upgrade? Should they release a new version or not?
Short version: people are just bitching because Apple. Apple is doing nothing here that Lenovo, HP, and Dell haven't already done; for some reason Lenovo, HP, and Dell get a pass on it.
Really.
I completely forgot about all those times we threatened to move the Abraham Lincoln carrier battle group into the North Sea if Brussels if they didn't do what they were told. And I also completely forgot about how France had been a full participant in the completely misguided war in Iraq in 2003 - no wait, that's right - they completely abstained and said it was stupid and unnecessary. And then we bombed Paris... no, that didn't happen either.
I think it's clear why you posted that drivel as Anonymous Coward.
I really don't know how you got all that from my single sentence, except that you have your head wedged WAY up your ass, and enjoy putting words in people's mouths.
Yeah, and bioscience, particle energy research, fusion power, etc. have absolutely zero military applications.
Yeah, because decades of research into particle physics and fusion power is definitely something that a private corporation is going to do with no practical immediate uses available in the next 6 quarters.
Government R&D definitely has it's place, and anyone that says otherwise is a damn fool.
I'm sure it absolutely won't end with a lot of car dealerships opening shop on the borders.
Yeah, because there's absolutely nothing to worry about when another government says that they are going to preemptively strike you or your allies with nuclear weapons on a weekly basis.
There's no place in the world today for that kind of bullshit, and even China is acting against them at the UN. I have no idea what the hell is with people defending North Korea's behavior here.
Not "all" people in North Korea are slim. Their 'dear leader' is pretty fat, actually.