That you find a book first. In fact - find Head First Java" IMHO the best book to teach teens about programming. Next arm yourself with a woman of renown to teach object orientation, namely Alice, she will amase you and your teens. Lastly, once they have the basics down after the new year, get them up and running Code Rally and the winner of the Grand Prix gets extra points towards that grade!!
None taken, and it is an interesting thought at that. But I guess I would counter that it is still a passive action. Few people, ok, some guys I know, go out of thier way and actively plan on thier next bowel movement and where they are going to leave it.;) Seriously though - even using the lav you are not shedding cells with a "I could care a less, here have some white blood cells" attitude. To my mind it is still the credit card in the lost wallet. Had I the choice I would drop no genetic material. As I do not have that choice it doesn't give anyone the right to dig into that which I shed do to nature itself.
From a practical standpoint this is like anything else that you discard, it doesn't belong to you any more.
Hmmm...let us discuss the difference between "discard" and "lose". If I walk past a trash can pull out my wallet and it's $50 in cash and toss it in I have "discarded" it and I agree, have at, you just made $50. If however it falls from my pocket, I have "lost" it, and you have no right to anything in it. Even if I "discard" my wallet with my cash card on it with the PIN painted on in it with glitter paint, you still have no legal access to my account, the bank would still consider the card "lost". I can think of no cell that I have ever actively discarded, and even if I had in someway (actively got a hair cut) I still would have "lost" the hair follicle that went with that voluntary hair cut. IMHO to "discard" genetic material is actually very hard to do, and would require purposeful action, not passive flaking, drooling, sweating, etc.
Thank you sir for that, my keyboard and monitor really did need a cleaning and now that I have sprayed water out my nose on them, now is as good of time as any.:)
Penis, weed and toilet humor...egads, how did I ever live without it? And your web site is... well, it is nice for you I am sure. Most of us have gotten past potty humor.
You are not a "classical liberal", you are a libertairian, small 'l'. Why the libertarians are wrong is well - here -
Health care? Solution is to put health care under the control of the government.
See here is the deal, I let you sit in a room for oh, let's say 12 hous, the room is 92F... I come back to the room and I say -
Me: Hey, um, did you drink from that faucet over there?
You: Yeah, I was thirsty - what of it?
Me: Well, it was poisonous
You:What in the hell?... - Jesus Christ who has an unmarked tap in a hot room?
Me: Well we do, I am afraid you have 2 days at the most and it will be very painfull at the end.
You: Jesus! How the hell does this happen?
Me: Well, truth is, we voted out the "nanny" State ages ago, and it is not poisonous for the people that work here, sorry
You: I am going to sue you bastards into next week!!
Me: Good luck, there is a $100k cap now
Me: By the way - there is an antidote.
You: Holy crap - where is it - give it to me
Me: Well, here is the thing - it is well, um, 1 Million dollars, cash. But of course you dont have to buy it
You: I dont have that kind of money
Me: You can make payments - we finance
(And in your world)
You: Screw You... I dont need massive government regulating you, I can fix it myself
Me: Well, enjoy the last 3 hours of your 48 left
Truth is that health care is very much a government thing. you would do *ANYTHING* to get that drug - anything. It needs to have the big hand of government to step in to be on your side.
The government should be about the public good - that is a liberal idea. I admit, the "public good" has run amok lately - but I would rather have "PC" language socially forced on me (liberal Democrat) than "PC" language forced on me through law (Neo-Con)
Look here Child of the Dot Com, Great Minds always think. Perhaps not greatly, but they always think. I have been able to have the luck to have been around "has beens". OMG They do not suffer from a lack of creativity, just (perhaps) focus. Their minds spark more and more as they age, and they have less and less focus to deal with it. If anything they get smarter as they age, but have less capacity to deal with the bullshit involved. They have all the advantages period. Intelligence, Skill, and History - to discount their addition is stupid, myopic, and juvenile.
It's a possibility that HP is letting him go because he isn't innovating or contributing on par with other researchers.
Then the Spirit of Carley lives on... and she was a Moron.
And where the hell is NASA? The Chinese are putting men in space and we cower in our launch craft waiting for the safty teams to tell us it is only "damn dangerous". I will put my life where my mouth is - put me in space, and damn the hazards - let the cowards fly for NorthWest - I want to be on space!!!!
I dunno if anyone has ever said this - but thanks. Being a lawyer, admitting here in the unwashed masses and giving some real legal insight is darn helpfull. So, thank you for being you.
This gut chose the first one - linux had nothing to do with it. If he had gone to a new propriatry system - the SAME thing would have happened. Linux is only a bit player here.
I switched to [linux] on my laptop because of this, and i'll run [linux] on my laptop now, until I get a new one, at which point in time, I can't say that i'll try and get my Windows issue working again. Are there efforts to fix it? Sure. But i've waiting a year and a half for them. You can offer Windows issue, but I think it's too late, i've moved on.
See there is the thing - they all have issues. You want supported Wifi (That - I must point out was designed on a win machine - like a win modem) Me, I want ron jobs, and windows has no such feature. So, you know what? Despite standing on opposite sides - we are both right.
Trust me - Harbor Frieght sells a terrible anvil. Wait till you get to use a good one and then you will appreciate the difference. I work pt (for fun) at Arms and Armor I shudder to think of what it would cost to rebuy our forging equipment (especially the stakes) and we have a couple nice anvils and one that looks like we put it under a surface grinder daily - flat smooth - nice. As for doing the Gingery books - I highly recommend trying the casting ones, but as for the rest - it is a lot like 'roll your own linux' very educational, kinda fun, but man alive - your time is also worth something - try Grizzley tools.They are still junky tiawan/chinese tools - but they are considered the best of the low/pro-sumer tools. Sorry this was so long - meh.
It is a damn shame that education has boiled down to money. I would love to see "free" universities, where people who love a subject give classes. How many 60ish year old retired engineers are there that would love to teach math part time, just because they love it?
IWAACC (I Work At A Community College) and I can answer this question about 60ish Math instructors.
Ahem
None, exactly, and I didnt use a calculator either.
Even at current pay rates (ours are lower - by law even the Superintendents of school districts cant make more than the Governor - $120311) we have a tough time attracting quality faculty as it stands. So to paraphrase your question -
How many 60ish year old retired engineers are there that would love to teach math part time,listen to whiney 18/19 year olds, deal with adult learners that are holding down a full course load, full time job, 3 kids and a house, deal with grade inflation, Deans, working anywhere from 8am to 10pm (sometimes all in one day), create lesson plans and at the end of the day grade papers, tests, and projects?
IMHO teaching is still a thankless task, even with good pay. The amount of plagerism, lying, cheating and unpreparedness I have seen is appalling to say the least, and I am a coder for the college, not an instructor. Most of our students wouldn't take the power to fix things if you gave it to them on a silver platter anyway, they seem to want the "Hey, I plunked down my cash (loan) where is my "A"/Credits/Degree?" model these days.
And though I also hate the branding/sole dealer thing going on (the U of MN sold off naming rights to it's new Stadium - blech), especially when it reaches down into K-12 the reality is that schools are being asked to do more and more with less and less. At my level, we have been hit with 10% budget cuts from the State for 2 years, while our student population has grown by 9 and 8 percent each year. I can see where schools are feeling the pinch and want to generate revenue from something other than tuition.
Where are you that they are paying out that kind of cash to CC instructors?
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That you find a book first. In fact - find Head First Java" IMHO the best book to teach teens about programming. Next arm yourself with a woman of renown to teach object orientation, namely Alice, she will amase you and your teens. Lastly, once they have the basics down after the new year, get them up and running Code Rally and the winner of the Grand Prix gets extra points towards that grade!!
Sera
None taken, and it is an interesting thought at that. But I guess I would counter that it is still a passive action. Few people, ok, some guys I know, go out of thier way and actively plan on thier next bowel movement and where they are going to leave it.
Sera
Hmmm...let us discuss the difference between "discard" and "lose". If I walk past a trash can pull out my wallet and it's $50 in cash and toss it in I have "discarded" it and I agree, have at, you just made $50. If however it falls from my pocket, I have "lost" it, and you have no right to anything in it. Even if I "discard" my wallet with my cash card on it with the PIN painted on in it with glitter paint, you still have no legal access to my account, the bank would still consider the card "lost". I can think of no cell that I have ever actively discarded, and even if I had in someway (actively got a hair cut) I still would have "lost" the hair follicle that went with that voluntary hair cut. IMHO to "discard" genetic material is actually very hard to do, and would require purposeful action, not passive flaking, drooling, sweating, etc.
Sera
Sera
Penis, weed and toilet humor
Sera
Comedy College download a few, use vsound, - laugh your butt off all the way there!
Sera
The answer you are looking for is - 89.3 The current by Minnesota Public radio. CD quality aacPlus no less. Yummy.
Sera
You are not a "classical liberal", you are a libertairian, small 'l'. Why the libertarians are wrong is well - here - See here is the deal, I let you sit in a room for oh, let's say 12 hous, the room is 92F
Me: Hey, um, did you drink from that faucet over there?
You: Yeah, I was thirsty - what of it?
Me: Well, it was poisonous
You:What in the hell?
Me: Well we do, I am afraid you have 2 days at the most and it will be very painfull at the end.
You: Jesus! How the hell does this happen?
Me: Well, truth is, we voted out the "nanny" State ages ago, and it is not poisonous for the people that work here, sorry
You: I am going to sue you bastards into next week!!
Me: Good luck, there is a $100k cap now
Me: By the way - there is an antidote.
You: Holy crap - where is it - give it to me
Me: Well, here is the thing - it is well, um, 1 Million dollars, cash. But of course you dont have to buy it
You: I dont have that kind of money
Me: You can make payments - we finance
(And in your world)
You: Screw You
Me: Well, enjoy the last 3 hours of your 48 left
Truth is that health care is very much a government thing. you would do *ANYTHING* to get that drug - anything. It needs to have the big hand of government to step in to be on your side.
The government should be about the public good - that is a liberal idea. I admit, the "public good" has run amok lately - but I would rather have "PC" language socially forced on me (liberal Democrat) than "PC" language forced on me through law (Neo-Con)
Insightful my ass.
Look here Child of the Dot Com, Great Minds always think. Perhaps not greatly, but they always think. I have been able to have the luck to have been around "has beens". OMG They do not suffer from a lack of creativity, just (perhaps) focus. Their minds spark more and more as they age, and they have less and less focus to deal with it. If anything they get smarter as they age, but have less capacity to deal with the bullshit involved. They have all the advantages period. Intelligence, Skill, and History - to discount their addition is stupid, myopic, and juvenile.
Then the Spirit of Carley lives onSera
And where the hell is NASA? The Chinese are putting men in space and we cower in our launch craft waiting for the safty teams to tell us it is only "damn dangerous". I will put my life where my mouth is - put me in space, and damn the hazards - let the cowards fly for NorthWest - I want to be on space!!!!
Sera
Yes. This is why they are soldiers, if you think that pay is a factor, think again.
Sera
...and you Sir are an asshat... *NO* soldier deserves to have squat done to them for the behavior of the C-n-C. You are an idiot.
Kangarooski?
I dunno if anyone has ever said this - but thanks. Being a lawyer, admitting here in the unwashed masses and giving some real legal insight is darn helpfull. So, thank you for being you.
Sera
Riiiiiight I know the 18,000 residents of Chaska MN would disagree.
Sera
making sure not to strip out the chuck
Dude, if you can strip out a chuck's threads I would like to see it.
Sera's Uncle
...that I do not have "destroyed beauty".
Sera
Ah yes, I love a McBailey's in the morning, or maye 10.
Sera
Look, you have three ways to trasition. -
This gut chose the first one - linux had nothing to do with it. If he had gone to a new propriatry system - the SAME thing would have happened. Linux is only a bit player here.
Sera
I was going to mod you - but WOW - That is the single most thoughtful post I have ever read. Bless You Sir, I hope your life if good and long
Sera
OK, I will bite.
Insert windows issue here
See there is the thing - they all have issues. You want supported Wifi (That - I must point out was designed on a win machine - like a win modem) Me, I want ron jobs, and windows has no such feature. So, you know what? Despite standing on opposite sides - we are both right.a Virginian eh? I knew I liked you for a reason
Sera
Trust me - Harbor Frieght sells a terrible anvil. Wait till you get to use a good one and then you will appreciate the difference. I work pt (for fun) at Arms and Armor I shudder to think of what it would cost to rebuy our forging equipment (especially the stakes) and we have a couple nice anvils and one that looks like we put it under a surface grinder daily - flat smooth - nice. As for doing the Gingery books - I highly recommend trying the casting ones, but as for the rest - it is a lot like 'roll your own linux' very educational, kinda fun, but man alive - your time is also worth something - try Grizzley tools.They are still junky tiawan/chinese tools - but they are considered the best of the low/pro-sumer tools. Sorry this was so long - meh.
Sera
Sera
Ahem
None, exactly, and I didnt use a calculator either.
Even at current pay rates (ours are lower - by law even the Superintendents of school districts cant make more than the Governor - $120311) we have a tough time attracting quality faculty as it stands. So to paraphrase your question -
How many 60ish year old retired engineers are there that would love to teach math part time,listen to whiney 18/19 year olds, deal with adult learners that are holding down a full course load, full time job, 3 kids and a house, deal with grade inflation, Deans, working anywhere from 8am to 10pm (sometimes all in one day), create lesson plans and at the end of the day grade papers, tests, and projects?
IMHO teaching is still a thankless task, even with good pay. The amount of plagerism, lying, cheating and unpreparedness I have seen is appalling to say the least, and I am a coder for the college, not an instructor. Most of our students wouldn't take the power to fix things if you gave it to them on a silver platter anyway, they seem to want the "Hey, I plunked down my cash (loan) where is my "A"/Credits/Degree?" model these days.
And though I also hate the branding/sole dealer thing going on (the U of MN sold off naming rights to it's new Stadium - blech), especially when it reaches down into K-12 the reality is that schools are being asked to do more and more with less and less. At my level, we have been hit with 10% budget cuts from the State for 2 years, while our student population has grown by 9 and 8 percent each year. I can see where schools are feeling the pinch and want to generate revenue from something other than tuition.
Where are you that they are paying out that kind of cash to CC instructors?
Sera
I like your sig
Sera