And she is 15 years old - by every Law on the Books she is a child - not a near Adult, not an adolescent, not a consumer, not a hacker, computer user, not anything legaly at all - a child. She actually has limited constitutional rights. What she knew is immaterial - she is a minor for any other Law - including Murder in the First - she is a very very different creature.
Amen, Brother. Were her Parents ignorant? Yup, Should they have Policed her internet? - um...maybe - let us not forget that the average slashdot reader knows about 10000% more about computers and the internet than the average user. - So no - they wouldnt know to police her - Do I Expect a 15 year old Girl to know what she is doinfg on the net? No. Do I expect her to understand the ramifications?(sp) No, she is 15, this is why they are procecuted as children. Does this show why this is dumb? Yes, exactly
The pricing my school gets is obscene - I have made the pitch to the head of technology about open source - then he showed me in real dollars what we pay for the entire campus for MS products - think everything but servers for a 500 seat computer set up - $14000 a year. Oh, and we are looking into it, but it probably includes free student versions of VS.Net for any student enroled in a.net class.
Give knoppix a try - the install is great IMHO. Just boot up the CD hit Ctrl+f1 type knoppix-installer and away it goes. It will ask you a few uestions about partitioning your drive and it will chrn for a good long time (your screen may go blank - just wait untill the HD and CD-ROM lights go out) knx-hdinstall (I think) willl also work - It is my personal fave, it seems to have fewer issues. But by all means get knoppix and get going - it is how debian gets on my boxen:)
Amazing, aint it?? Now perhaps the Right can have a taste of what it was like to be a liberal while Clinton was in office - perhaps now you can see why Monica 24/7 was so painfull, hurtfull, and why the impeachment that the Right when for with such glee was bad for the country. Perhaps now the Right can see that attcking a sitting president for every pecidillo is so utterly flawed. Perhaps now, the bitter pill of what they themselves have wrought has come home, not so nice and fun when the shoe is on the other foot is it?
Sera
Then again, I would rather Bush got blown under his desk - than blow up his nose, and blowing up Iraqis.
These folks sell a product that has all of the satellite info from the survey of both earth and mars. A side product supposedly lets you see it 3D. Sure it is a gamer's tool, but still pretty neat stuff.
You obviously have never been to the gun shows, or homes of serious gun owners that I have. I count people who own RPG's and Barret Rifles as friends...and they are not a small number..including my father
Consistent, user frienldy computing is not ubiquitous now, faster processing does not equate to better control, all it means is that we can all BSOD in a fraction of a second instead of in 30 seconds. We can build many things that we cannot control; Highways (who needs a speed limit when I am drunk?), a-bombs (hey, how is North Korea these days?) even daycare centers (Oh, dont worry, the kids are *fine*).
What to poster was saying was the processor we use today is insanely faster than the Pentium 100 of yester year, yet the programming , even the software does not take advantage of that speed. Where are the deskops that use my 256MB video card? - where are the Apps that do? - hell, I got video to spare - yet no one but games uses it - and few people are even trying, this amount of computing is going down the drain with each CPU cycle, yet we want more.
Sure - the quantum computer will run Debian, or Mandrake or even (shudder) Windows - but why should it? With 100 or 1000 times the speed what is the point? He is asking what advancements in programming do we need to keep up with the pace of compuing power. Coding every 'If....then' to make a photo-realistic environment for plant simulation for your backyard over the next thirty years is just plain stupid. What he is asking for are better tools to do the job with. The "Great Promise" of OO Design has been reuse - so - where are my Objects? - and even better - Where are my 'Super Objects' and where is the Language to use those Super Objects as just that - objects - not raw code?
Man, you scare me... this is like reading proto-Orwell - cosider expanding this. Quite scary for a Oct night..I am going to email this to every geek I know...
What disturbs me however is that they are allowed to market to children, who cannot make good decisions about what to eat. Now, of course thier parents have to buy it for them you say. To that I add - or grandparents, aunts, uncles, friend's parents, coaches, etc, etc. Tobacco got rid of the Camel, alcohol was never allowed to be marketed to children, so why should something that is just as dangerous (heart disease, cancer, diabetes) be able to be marketed to children?
But do you know a way to get the login from a windows environment to do this? - For example, at my school a student can log into any box. Is there a way to get linux to do this on the network?
Truth be told bittorrent sux. I have a www2 connection and Mandrake gives priority to www2. I hand out copies as fast as I can burn them - life is good
for those of you that misunderstand www2 is a college line, and I give copies out to students:P
Ignore the AC Troll - yeesh "I am 3l33t too!!" cripes.
From what I have seen everyone here gives good advice - even the parent of my post. You are not a software developer - you admit this - (and *That Is Just Fine*)- dont get me wrong. What you will need eventually - as it looks like your project has some big aspirations - is a person who knows a thing or two about design. You being a ME can appreciate design. It (as the parent tries to comically point out) is tragicallly mis-understood about software. Just like a good HVAC system needs a blueprint - so does software. One thing you want to do is find one of your contributers to be the Architect of your software - you can be the Overlord - deciding what does, and what does NOT go in - but let a pro, if you can find one, see to the nitty gritty of design. "OK", you think, "but I get to say where the 'foo' button is - no damn designer for me there" - you are right. Much like a customer gets to tell you - "I want the 'On' button 'there' you still get say-so. But when it comes to code 'I think I have a shorter run time doing it this way' is all thiers. In short - what the parent tried to point out was - you are a professional, you have started a hobby project, you asked what does it need to be a professional job, the parent's answer - a professional.
Or...
just do what my college library is doing - namly the computer version of "We dump our check-out records at the close of business" Hold IP addys for 24 hours then dump em..."No, RIAA, I honestly *cant* tell you who was behind that IP on that day at that time"
-Sera
Slashdot Mirror
And she is 15 years old - by every Law on the Books she is a child - not a near Adult, not an adolescent, not a consumer, not a hacker, computer user, not anything legaly at all - a child. She actually has limited constitutional rights. What she knew is immaterial - she is a minor for any other Law - including Murder in the First - she is a very very different creature.
Sera
Amen, Brother.
Were her Parents ignorant? Yup, Should they have Policed her internet? - um...maybe - let us not forget that the average slashdot reader knows about 10000% more about computers and the internet than the average user. - So no - they wouldnt know to police her - Do I Expect a 15 year old Girl to know what she is doinfg on the net? No. Do I expect her to understand the ramifications?(sp) No, she is 15, this is why they are procecuted as children. Does this show why this is dumb? Yes, exactly
Sera
The pricing my school gets is obscene - I have made the pitch to the head of technology about open source - then he showed me in real dollars what we pay for the entire campus for MS products - think everything but servers for a 500 seat computer set up - $14000 a year. Oh, and we are looking into it, but it probably includes free student versions of VS.Net for any student enroled in a
Here are a few links to get you started
For programming stuff
For OS agreements w/MS
Because the Sun never sets on
Fer the love of God - at least get it right
Sera
Give knoppix a try - the install is great IMHO. :)
Just boot up the CD hit Ctrl+f1 type knoppix-installer and away it goes. It will ask you a few uestions about partitioning your drive and it will chrn for a good long time (your screen may go blank - just wait untill the HD and CD-ROM lights go out) knx-hdinstall (I think) willl also work - It is my personal fave, it seems to have fewer issues. But by all means get knoppix and get going - it is how debian gets on my boxen
it was a joke -i.e. "emacs is everthing", see a funy bone specialist
Peace Corps
yeesh - that was easy = next?
....emacs is an editor too - tell the truth!
Sera
Amazing, aint it?? Now perhaps the Right can have a taste of what it was like to be a liberal while Clinton was in office - perhaps now you can see why Monica 24/7 was so painfull, hurtfull, and why the impeachment that the Right when for with such glee was bad for the country. Perhaps now the Right can see that attcking a sitting president for every pecidillo is so utterly flawed. Perhaps now, the bitter pill of what they themselves have wrought has come home, not so nice and fun when the shoe is on the other foot is it?
Sera
Then again, I would rather Bush got blown under his desk - than blow up his nose, and blowing up Iraqis.
Heh..you said Deprecated...heh
These folks sell a product that has all of the satellite info from the survey of both earth and mars. A side product supposedly lets you see it 3D. Sure it is a gamer's tool, but still pretty neat stuff.
-Sera
lol - tell that to the afgannis who fought Hind Helicopters
/me appaulds
-Sera
You obviously have never been to the gun shows, or homes of serious gun owners that I have. I count people who own RPG's and Barret Rifles as friends...and they are not a small number..including my father
-Sera
NP, thanks for the feed back
I disagree.
Consistent, user frienldy computing is not ubiquitous now, faster processing does not equate to better control, all it means is that we can all BSOD in a fraction of a second instead of in 30 seconds. We can build many things that we cannot control; Highways (who needs a speed limit when I am drunk?), a-bombs (hey, how is North Korea these days?) even daycare centers (Oh, dont worry, the kids are *fine*). What to poster was saying was the processor we use today is insanely faster than the Pentium 100 of yester year, yet the programming , even the software does not take advantage of that speed. Where are the deskops that use my 256MB video card? - where are the Apps that do? - hell, I got video to spare - yet no one but games uses it - and few people are even trying, this amount of computing is going down the drain with each CPU cycle, yet we want more.
Sure - the quantum computer will run Debian, or Mandrake or even (shudder) Windows - but why should it? With 100 or 1000 times the speed what is the point? He is asking what advancements in programming do we need to keep up with the pace of compuing power. Coding every 'If....then' to make a photo-realistic environment for plant simulation for your backyard over the next thirty years is just plain stupid. What he is asking for are better tools to do the job with. The "Great Promise" of OO Design has been reuse - so - where are my Objects? - and even better - Where are my 'Super Objects' and where is the Language to use those Super Objects as just that - objects - not raw code?
Just my thoughts
-Sera
Man, you scare me
-Sera
My God!!
Think of the iBooks, the iPods, iMove, jTunes, jMacs, the...hey, wth?
Sera
What disturbs me however is that they are allowed to market to children, who cannot make good decisions about what to eat. Now, of course thier parents have to buy it for them you say. To that I add - or grandparents, aunts, uncles, friend's parents, coaches, etc, etc. Tobacco got rid of the Camel, alcohol was never allowed to be marketed to children, so why should something that is just as dangerous (heart disease, cancer, diabetes) be able to be marketed to children?
Sera
But do you know a way to get the login from a windows environment to do this? - For example, at my school a student can log into any box. Is there a way to get linux to do this on the network?
Truth be told bittorrent sux. I have a www2 connection and Mandrake gives priority to www2. I hand out copies as fast as I can burn them - life is good
for those of you that misunderstand www2 is a college line, and I give copies out to students :P
Sera
wish I had some mod points....you are 100% correct (as in a total number of all possibilities) -Sera
From what I have seen everyone here gives good advice - even the parent of my post. You are not a software developer - you admit this - (and *That Is Just Fine*)- dont get me wrong. What you will need eventually - as it looks like your project has some big aspirations - is a person who knows a thing or two about design. You being a ME can appreciate design. It (as the parent tries to comically point out) is tragicallly mis-understood about software. Just like a good HVAC system needs a blueprint - so does software. One thing you want to do is find one of your contributers to be the Architect of your software - you can be the Overlord - deciding what does, and what does NOT go in - but let a pro, if you can find one, see to the nitty gritty of design.
"OK", you think, "but I get to say where the 'foo' button is - no damn designer for me there" - you are right. Much like a customer gets to tell you - "I want the 'On' button 'there' you still get say-so. But when it comes to code 'I think I have a shorter run time doing it this way' is all thiers. In short - what the parent tried to point out was - you are a professional, you have started a hobby project, you asked what does it need to be a professional job, the parent's answer - a professional.
Seraphim
Or...
just do what my college library is doing - namly the computer version of "We dump our check-out records at the close of business" Hold IP addys for 24 hours then dump em..."No, RIAA, I honestly *cant* tell you who was behind that IP on that day at that time" -Sera