Funny, cause most of the people i download from aren't from Amerika[sic].
When the RIAA or MPAA start sueing some Chineese T1 users, that's when i'll beleive this is something other than a scare tactic.
Oh, and the file-sharer with a conscience is not an urban legend. "Try before you buy" does happen, whether you belive it or not. (though i doubt it happens much).
the only hard part, IMHO, about Gentoo install is installing X (which is automatically installed and configed in some other distros). Well, ALSA can be a pain sometimes too. =/
step 1-find yourself a pair of tighly-fitting gloves
step 2-put on some latex gloves
step 3-try (and fail) to put the gloves on over the latex gloves
step 4-kill yourself for being an idiot.
When Kazaa, Napster, eDonkey, WinMX and all the others have bitten the dust, I will still be trading MP3's on a fairly old internet chat service (wink wink).... which is where i started, if you don't count forwarding emails with.wav attachments on AOL.
sound is broken (sound processing delay punctuated with random bursts of noise at max volume) under KDE 3.2 for me.
maybe i installed it wrong, but that's kind of hard to do using Gentoo.
Gnome comes alot closer to what i want from a desktop environment, but i can't quite bring myself to work at getting double-click and right click behavior working right in..... damn, which one of those apps was Gnome's 'official' file browser? Nautalus? Hell, couldn't even get it to "view as" in any way that was asthetically and ergonomically acceptable to me. Installing Gnome themes is also semi-broken. (i managed to to it once, a long long time ago)
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AVG?
Now why would anyone in their right mind run a perfectly good program that likes to dissable/cripple/delete other perfectly good programs?
Here's a few examples of how the AVG programmers think:
example 1-
Problem: worms/virii that use built-in IRC clients or exploit IRC as a propegation medium.
Solution: mIRC.exe is a virus. delete.
example 2-
Problem: a few worms exist that install and run the distributed.net client software on infected computers.
Solution: Dnet-*.exe is a virus. delete.
Yeah. I think ill take my chances with an NAT gateway and a strict policy of not downloading ANYFUCKINGTHING that isn't from a source i trust and/or contains executable code.
Our children will be more computer savy than we are. This will all sort itsself out in a few years. Hopefully the america they inherrit won't be completely fucked... but i suspect it will be.
Some might think that this is a sign that the callender is about to change to 1984, but i dissagree. No matter how the government might try to control us, this is the information age, and as long as companies can make money connecting us together in a global information network, we will be empowered.
Anyone who doesn't understand technology (or anything else for that matter) gets defensive about it as their first reaction when someone dissagrees with them.
Being steadfastly wrong has more PR value for politicians than being corrected by authorities on the subject, because the general public doesn't understand technology much better than the politicians, so how do they know who's right? Much better to shout about how right you are than to defer to another.
Anyway, im not sure i really understand the issue here. IANAL, so i don't really get why something that's copyrighted would also need to be patened, except as amunition for more IP wars.
>but even they dont use thier windowsupdate site to check if your cdkey is valid
Try installing XP SP1 with a known bad key.
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File-shareing is of dubious legality. Personaly, i think its no different than listening to songs on the radio (which i never do anymore thanks to Clear Channel Communications).... well, more like recording songs off the radio, which is perfectly legal. I used to do this years ago, back when i was in highschool and had little or no money to go buy tapes (forget about those new-fangled CD things).
Why i file-share mp3's boils down to 1. i'd rather listen to music on my computer (which i sit in front of more than most people watch TV). 2. I don't know of any good way to move songs from my tapedeck to my PC. 3. The radio stopped playing good music about 7 years ago. Clear Channel needs to DIE a horrible death. I refuse to fucking pay for XM. 4. about half of the songs I download end up getting deleted. Those that stay affect my future CD buying habbits (Yes RIAA, I DO BUY CDS!!!!!)
I'd eventually like to learn all about the dirty underbelly of linux like i did with Windows, but there's too much information to learn all at once. I need to be fully functional in GUI before I feel confortable messing with the command line, that way I'll have an easy way to fix mistakes. I'm starting to think that people who call Linux intuative were born with a unix server as a conjoined twin.
Seriously, why do i have to type -zxfv(yeah, i can alter bash aliases, but that has complications) every time i use tar? From what i read, its because tar was originally designed for tape backup operations. How much work would it be to rework this utility to not need certain options, and automatically detect which other options were needed? Tar can't be altered to detect wheter or not a file is gziped, or better yet, have gzip integrated into it?
I guess my only option is to suck it up and start memorizing, but I don't like it. I don't think this is a very professional way to make an operating system targeted at the general public. CLI should enhance productivity by making things faster, and in some limited cases, add funcitonality. I shouldn't need to use bash on a regular basis.
assuming you have the correct versions of [insert programs/libraries here] installed.... most of the time it does. (note the fact that i said 'most of the time', because due to badly written packages, sometimes it doesn't)
and just in case you missed the fucking point of what is was saying: there needs to be a way to install linux software that requires a double click on a file, and perhaps a few clicks on [ok] dialouge boxes. This is the main reason i do not recommend linux to friends. As far as 'ease of use', its about equall to windows... but installing software/hardware and configuring system settings is a fucking rootcanal.
your post is typical of the arogance of the linux comunity. You think that anyone who doesn't feel like memorizing dozzens of command line commands, options, switches, etc. is lazy or stupid. FUCK YOU! I don't want to have to reinvent the god damn wheel in order to install a god damn screensaver. I don't care about the power and versitility of the bash shell; i just want to browse the web and listen to mp3's.... and i shouldn't need a degree in computer science to do this. LET GO OF THE GOD DAMN PAST!!! THE COMMAND LINE DIED WHEN WINDOWS 3.1 WAS RELEASED!!! DEAL WITH IT!
I really wish the nix community would quit trying to be leet and make an OS for the rest of us already.
(oh, and in case anyone thinks im a newb, im currently in school for computers, have an A+, will soon have Net+ and w2k MCP, and i've been running linux for 6 months.)
Thank god. I am so sick of switching between KDE and Gnome because one or the other doesn't like a certain app too much. (bugs in linux?!?! *GASP*)
maybe next we'll get a standardized installation system (rpm is almost there...), and if we're REALLY GOD DAMN LUCKY, all software will have an alternate installer for it that includes all of its dependancies.
While im on the subject of this, how mnay people do you hear complain about wasted space in W2k because of all programs having their own copy of previously(in other MS os's) shared DLLs and such? For christ's sake, include commonly used libs in the install, and include miscelaneous ones in software RPMs. If i've installed every fucking file from my 3 cd install set, i shouldn't have to search around the web for a whole fucking lot.
good thing: better quality picture of Pikachu doing the nasty with Snoopy on my cell phone.
bad thing: Having pictures to go with annoying rings might increase the popularity of the really really god damn annoying rings. I swear to god, if i hear another cell phone imitating "its a hard knock life" i will kill.
Oh, and since when do cellphone batteries hold enough juice to support more than 2 seconds of signifigant bandwith?
ya, some of the *nix fonts are pretty.... ick.
Gimp is just as good as photoshop from what i've seen, though im not a graphix guy.
Personally i keep XP around for games, file shareing and compatability with certian devices nix has problems with (dvd player, cdburner, mp3 player, etc.)
its also nice to have a backup system in case your main one goes goofy.
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I'm really not sure why people think they have a right to privacy when at work, working on their employeer's computer.
MOD PARENT UP!!!
>The RIAA is going after the big offenders.
Funny, cause most of the people i download from aren't from Amerika[sic].
When the RIAA or MPAA start sueing some Chineese T1 users, that's when i'll beleive this is something other than a scare tactic.
Oh, and the file-sharer with a conscience is not an urban legend. "Try before you buy" does happen, whether you belive it or not. (though i doubt it happens much).
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the only hard part, IMHO, about Gentoo install is installing X (which is automatically installed and configed in some other distros). Well, ALSA can be a pain sometimes too. =/
+ If the glove did not fit, you must acquit.
ok.
step 1-find yourself a pair of tighly-fitting gloves
step 2-put on some latex gloves
step 3-try (and fail) to put the gloves on over the latex gloves
step 4-kill yourself for being an idiot.
not where "it" started, where "I" started, as in, where I got started in mp3 downloading.
When Kazaa, Napster, eDonkey, WinMX and all the others have bitten the dust, I will still be trading MP3's on a fairly old internet chat service (wink wink).... which is where i started, if you don't count forwarding emails with .wav attachments on AOL.
God bless the good ole mass-mailer progs.
sound is broken (sound processing delay punctuated with random bursts of noise at max volume) under KDE 3.2 for me.
maybe i installed it wrong, but that's kind of hard to do using Gentoo.
Gnome comes alot closer to what i want from a desktop environment, but i can't quite bring myself to work at getting double-click and right click behavior working right in..... damn, which one of those apps was Gnome's 'official' file browser? Nautalus? Hell, couldn't even get it to "view as" in any way that was asthetically and ergonomically acceptable to me. Installing Gnome themes is also semi-broken. (i managed to to it once, a long long time ago)
AVG? Now why would anyone in their right mind run a perfectly good program that likes to dissable/cripple/delete other perfectly good programs? Here's a few examples of how the AVG programmers think: example 1- Problem: worms/virii that use built-in IRC clients or exploit IRC as a propegation medium. Solution: mIRC.exe is a virus. delete. example 2- Problem: a few worms exist that install and run the distributed.net client software on infected computers. Solution: Dnet-*.exe is a virus. delete. Yeah. I think ill take my chances with an NAT gateway and a strict policy of not downloading ANYFUCKINGTHING that isn't from a source i trust and/or contains executable code.
Or maybe the bloat-nazis got a hold of them, and convinced them that usefull features==wasted harddrive space.
Our children will be more computer savy than we are. This will all sort itsself out in a few years.
Hopefully the america they inherrit won't be completely fucked... but i suspect it will be.
Some might think that this is a sign that the callender is about to change to 1984, but i dissagree. No matter how the government might try to control us, this is the information age, and as long as companies can make money connecting us together in a global information network, we will be empowered.
Anyone who doesn't understand technology (or anything else for that matter) gets defensive about it as their first reaction when someone dissagrees with them.
Being steadfastly wrong has more PR value for politicians than being corrected by authorities on the subject, because the general public doesn't understand technology much better than the politicians, so how do they know who's right? Much better to shout about how right you are than to defer to another.
Anyway, im not sure i really understand the issue here. IANAL, so i don't really get why something that's copyrighted would also need to be patened, except as amunition for more IP wars.
>but even they dont use thier windowsupdate site to check if your cdkey is valid Try installing XP SP1 with a known bad key.
File-shareing is of dubious legality.
Personaly, i think its no different than listening to songs on the radio (which i never do anymore thanks to Clear Channel Communications).... well, more like recording songs off the radio, which is perfectly legal. I used to do this years ago, back when i was in highschool and had little or no money to go buy tapes (forget about those new-fangled CD things).
Why i file-share mp3's boils down to
1. i'd rather listen to music on my computer (which i sit in front of more than most people watch TV).
2. I don't know of any good way to move songs from my tapedeck to my PC.
3. The radio stopped playing good music about 7 years ago. Clear Channel needs to DIE a horrible death. I refuse to fucking pay for XM.
4. about half of the songs I download end up getting deleted. Those that stay affect my future CD buying habbits (Yes RIAA, I DO BUY CDS!!!!!)
Does it have IR ports so i can trade my pokemon with friends?
Hand held computers are for kids, and adults who choose to let their jobs intrude into their personal life more than it has to.
you make some very good points.
I'd eventually like to learn all about the dirty underbelly of linux like i did with Windows, but there's too much information to learn all at once. I need to be fully functional in GUI before I feel confortable messing with the command line, that way I'll have an easy way to fix mistakes. I'm starting to think that people who call Linux intuative were born with a unix server as a conjoined twin.
Seriously, why do i have to type -zxfv(yeah, i can alter bash aliases, but that has complications) every time i use tar? From what i read, its because tar was originally designed for tape backup operations. How much work would it be to rework this utility to not need certain options, and automatically detect which other options were needed? Tar can't be altered to detect wheter or not a file is gziped, or better yet, have gzip integrated into it?
I guess my only option is to suck it up and start memorizing, but I don't like it. I don't think this is a very professional way to make an operating system targeted at the general public. CLI should enhance productivity by making things faster, and in some limited cases, add funcitonality. I shouldn't need to use bash on a regular basis.
assuming you have the correct versions of [insert programs/libraries here] installed.... most of the time it does. (note the fact that i said 'most of the time', because due to badly written packages, sometimes it doesn't)
and just in case you missed the fucking point of what is was saying: there needs to be a way to install linux software that requires a double click on a file, and perhaps a few clicks on [ok] dialouge boxes. This is the main reason i do not recommend linux to friends. As far as 'ease of use', its about equall to windows... but installing software/hardware and configuring system settings is a fucking rootcanal.
your post is typical of the arogance of the linux comunity. You think that anyone who doesn't feel like memorizing dozzens of command line commands, options, switches, etc. is lazy or stupid. FUCK YOU! I don't want to have to reinvent the god damn wheel in order to install a god damn screensaver. I don't care about the power and versitility of the bash shell; i just want to browse the web and listen to mp3's.... and i shouldn't need a degree in computer science to do this. LET GO OF THE GOD DAMN PAST!!! THE COMMAND LINE DIED WHEN WINDOWS 3.1 WAS RELEASED!!! DEAL WITH IT!
I really wish the nix community would quit trying to be leet and make an OS for the rest of us already.
(oh, and in case anyone thinks im a newb, im currently in school for computers, have an A+, will soon have Net+ and w2k MCP, and i've been running linux for 6 months.)
thank you for explaining that to me Mr. SmartyMan. you're deffinately smarter than me, cause i didn't know that. teach me more about teh computar.
Thank god. I am so sick of switching between KDE and Gnome because one or the other doesn't like a certain app too much. (bugs in linux?!?! *GASP*)
maybe next we'll get a standardized installation system (rpm is almost there...), and if we're REALLY GOD DAMN LUCKY, all software will have an alternate installer for it that includes all of its dependancies.
While im on the subject of this, how mnay people do you hear complain about wasted space in W2k because of all programs having their own copy of previously(in other MS os's) shared DLLs and such? For christ's sake, include commonly used libs in the install, and include miscelaneous ones in software RPMs. If i've installed every fucking file from my 3 cd install set, i shouldn't have to search around the web for a whole fucking lot.
wassamatter? AOL community forums get boring?
good thing: better quality picture of Pikachu doing the nasty with Snoopy on my cell phone. bad thing: Having pictures to go with annoying rings might increase the popularity of the really really god damn annoying rings. I swear to god, if i hear another cell phone imitating "its a hard knock life" i will kill. Oh, and since when do cellphone batteries hold enough juice to support more than 2 seconds of signifigant bandwith?
That would explain all the Hive Failure BSODs i've been getting lately.
ya, some of the *nix fonts are pretty.... ick.
Gimp is just as good as photoshop from what i've seen, though im not a graphix guy.
Personally i keep XP around for games, file shareing and compatability with certian devices nix has problems with (dvd player, cdburner, mp3 player, etc.)
its also nice to have a backup system in case your main one goes goofy.
dear god. another aritificial intelligence experiment with access to a spell-checker has learned hypertext transfer. we are doomed.
This is just a thinly veiled attempt by the Chineese to position thier buisness sector for the upcomming Palladium/TCPA shit-storm.