If you are face to face you don't need to hunt someone down, and as comically pointed out in "fight club", it's more difficult than you think to pick a fight.
Someone typing random abuse into a chat room is not "in your face" and are about as threatening as someone scrawling random abuse on a toilet wall. The guy with the axe handle is mentally unstable, he should be locked up and forced to seek proffessional help.
"You can reasonably make a decision to not watch TV. Not being able to buy fuel without being exposed to something is very different."
You are not seeing porn in a servo, but you know the porn is hidden behind the mag wrappers, just like people taking a dump are hidden but you still know they are there and what they are doing.
"Would it really be so oppresive to "overtly sexual" people if they didn't foist it on me?"
Nobody is foisting porn on you, it is illeagal to display porn unless access is physically restricted to over 18's. You simply don't want to be reminded it exists, using a sign on a door that says "porn this way" is no different to an opaque wrapper saying "porn inside". Check out the movie I suggested, it's entertaining and highlights the issues far better than I can.
"So school be voluntary, so those with parents too poor to afford the possible injuries could keep their kids out?"
Yeah, but whatever you do don't implement universal health cover since that would mean joining the communists./sarcasm
Practically ALL developed countries provide some sort of universal health cover paid for by taxation, if you are injured you can get yourself fixed up in a clean modern hostpital with competent doctors and nurses, the bill is settled by the government regardless of your financial position. Sure the US has some (but not all) of the best hospitals on the planet, but how many citizens can afford to use them and what about the hospitals that are not so good?
Health outcomes and the overall cost of medical treatment to society are both vastly superior in a country with universal cover as opposed to the no cover, no doctor countries. The costs of all that private profit is still distributed throughout the community via insane insurance premiums, bankrupt sick people and mind numbingly stupid "insurance requirements" such as the one described in TFA.
Like I said I TFV is slashdotted. As you describe it, it sounds more like one of those slot machine "hands" that pick up prizes, I hope their tiny version has a better grip.
"No, it demonstrate the importance of acting civilized and how people should stop acting like savages just because they are not in front of the person they are communicating with."
Yeah, because it's a reasonable assumption that someone will hunt you down and beat you with an axe handle for something you said in a chat room./sarcasm
I don't like everything I see either, I can't get away from sport on the TV at certain times of the year. I have two grown children, when they were kids they knew there was a part of the adult world that was "adult bussiness", (ie: grog, smokes, porn, violent movies,..). We have some strong legal deternts to ensure none of these "adult pastimes" are open to kids, but to deny their existance turns it into a "wedge issue".
I'm not suggesting that porn should not "irk" you, I'm suggesting your "taste" should not be allowed to push "overtly sexual" people into dark alleys. Have a look at a movie called "The people vs Larry Flint", don't let the cover put you off, it's a great political drama based around the founder of Hustler magazine, it is also a great example of how the US constitution should work.
"I'm guilty of nothing more than bad taste" - Larry Flint.
I agree, I was expecting to see more than two "fingers" but saw nothing because TFV is slashdotted. So, ignoring TFV, if the "hand" is a pair of "tweezers" then this is the "world's smallest robotic hand".
I think the real breakthrough is not size, I mean how the hell do they make a "fist" with two fingers and no palm?
"Using new technology they found extra reserves where they couldn't have looked before."
Crap, uneconomic sources are simply becoming economic due to increased demand and the finite nature of oil reserves. During the nineties I read about how oil sands would be economical by about 2010. I think they were a tad optomistic, mining oil sand is exactly what they are doing in Canada today.
There is no "correct" definition of species but yours works well for many "higher order" animals, geek jokes aside many species don't even mate, they have sex with themselves.
"The problems in Africa aren't our fault. We send plenty of aid, but it ends up lining the pockets of Robert Mugabe and his ilk more than the people who need it. It's not a racial issue; it's a cultural issue."
What a bullshit cop out, culture can be said to be responsible for ALL manmade problems. The "problem" is 100+yrs of military and economic colonialism, racisim was endemic but was not specific to Africa, the real motivators of money and power have not changed. "We" systematically bled the continent dry, used it as the battle ground for the cold war and then made sure they would never rise out of poverty by preaching free trade while practising crippling protectionism. The industrialized nations have taken far more from Africa than they will ever give back through aid.
"Mugabe and his ilk" are political reactions to colonialisim, OTOH: Mandela and Gandhi also came to power fighting colonialisim.
Meanwhile the rest of the planet will treat an unenforcable court order from this judge about as seriously as they would a court order from the judge in this case.
"I think Spamhaus is trolling after making an ass out of itself in court."
Ummmm, they didn't go to court and they have not accepted anything, Spamhaus are demonstrating their view that the court does not have jurisdiction, Spamhaus seem to have a clue what they are talking about but the judge isn't listening since they refused to recognise the court by showing up. And if push really did come to shove then Spamhaus would probably just "reboot the company" in a different country.
I've been in front of a few judges in my time and IMHO many of them are the most arrogant people you could possibly imagine. I know very little about the US court system but I am guessing a district judge is not very high up the judicial foodchain and would have a hard time shutting down the internet no matter how hard he bangs his gabble. Meanwhile the rest of the planet will treat an unenforcable court order from this judge about as seriously as they would a court order from the judge in this case.
In Australia there are similar restrictions if you want to keep a handgun at home. My brother-in-law had one set up for his gun collection but compliance was a pain so he switched to using the gun club's armoury, I have never heard of cops knocking on the door in the middle of the night to inspect a private armory.
I personally couldn't be happier that the authorities demand a demonstration of responsibility from people with dangerous toys.
I live in Oz, take a good look at the porn in the servo, the "bits" you can see are no worse than "TV week's" front cover. It just looks like "porn" because they are in hermetically sealed bags and the models wear too much make-up. The strange thing is: I have never, ever, seen anyone buy them, yet they take up a fair bit of rack space????
"That's not what it means. It means to issue a currency, not to make profit from something."
Go to google, type in 'define: monetize', look at definition 1. I checked before I posted becuse it is true that in the most common usage refers to "creating currency" and I wanted to see if "monetize the transactions" would fit that definition.
"It's offensive because people are using words they don't understand, just to sound flashy. It insults the intelligence of the reader."
While your over at google try 'define: irony', just for a laugh.
Like I said: Lot's of luck changing the world but I still think the doctrine of "premtive and overwhelming force" so beloved by the neo-cons is like pouring petrol onto smoldering ashes. You are wittnessing the death throws of medievil style theocracies as a governing force, the only way that kind of ideology will make a comeback is if the crash of civilization comes to fruition and even then it will be your christian neighbours forcing it on to you.
Preachers say some terrible things, so does talkback radio and those evangelical TV shows. Hate speech is protected under the US constitution, ( provided your not the target, eh? )
"Not all participants in the movies are entirely willing though...You kinda hope both sides annihilate each other."
I contend that since the BBS days nothing has done more to get "rock spiders" out into the daylight than investigating material found on networked computers. One particular investigation almost brought down the Danish government and had 100,000 people marching in the streets. Denmark is renowned for it's sexual freedoms but the people that produce and consume this filth are mentally disturbed criminals in the minds of the overwhelming majority of people, including those who produce and consume adult porn.
If you actually do know of any sites that have evidence of snuff films, rape, kiddie porn or gang bashings,.. then report the fuckers to the FBI, Interpol, MP, whatever...if not then STFU and let the rest of us get our rocks off in peace.
"The question should be "why shouldn't they have it"?
The have a default answer nowadays: Terroists.
The question is now, how is it a usefull tool to terrorists? The answer is "it's not". Terrorists are attempting to orchestrate the mayhem, this tool mearly allows them to watch the response.
A common statergy with terrorists (eg: AQ, Isreal) is to attck twice in the same spot. Once to get the target, the second time to get the responders. AFAIK, "wait 20-30min" is not a fucking secret!
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If you are face to face you don't need to hunt someone down, and as comically pointed out in "fight club", it's more difficult than you think to pick a fight.
Someone typing random abuse into a chat room is not "in your face" and are about as threatening as someone scrawling random abuse on a toilet wall. The guy with the axe handle is mentally unstable, he should be locked up and forced to seek proffessional help.
"You can reasonably make a decision to not watch TV. Not being able to buy fuel without being exposed to something is very different."
You are not seeing porn in a servo, but you know the porn is hidden behind the mag wrappers, just like people taking a dump are hidden but you still know they are there and what they are doing.
"Would it really be so oppresive to "overtly sexual" people if they didn't foist it on me?"
Nobody is foisting porn on you, it is illeagal to display porn unless access is physically restricted to over 18's. You simply don't want to be reminded it exists, using a sign on a door that says "porn this way" is no different to an opaque wrapper saying "porn inside". Check out the movie I suggested, it's entertaining and highlights the issues far better than I can.
"So school be voluntary, so those with parents too poor to afford the possible injuries could keep their kids out?"
/sarcasm
Yeah, but whatever you do don't implement universal health cover since that would mean joining the communists.
Practically ALL developed countries provide some sort of universal health cover paid for by taxation, if you are injured you can get yourself fixed up in a clean modern hostpital with competent doctors and nurses, the bill is settled by the government regardless of your financial position. Sure the US has some (but not all) of the best hospitals on the planet, but how many citizens can afford to use them and what about the hospitals that are not so good?
Health outcomes and the overall cost of medical treatment to society are both vastly superior in a country with universal cover as opposed to the no cover, no doctor countries. The costs of all that private profit is still distributed throughout the community via insane insurance premiums, bankrupt sick people and mind numbingly stupid "insurance requirements" such as the one described in TFA.
Like I said I TFV is slashdotted. As you describe it, it sounds more like one of those slot machine "hands" that pick up prizes, I hope their tiny version has a better grip.
"No, it demonstrate the importance of acting civilized and how people should stop acting like savages just because they are not in front of the person they are communicating with."
/sarcasm
Yeah, because it's a reasonable assumption that someone will hunt you down and beat you with an axe handle for something you said in a chat room.
I don't like everything I see either, I can't get away from sport on the TV at certain times of the year. I have two grown children, when they were kids they knew there was a part of the adult world that was "adult bussiness", (ie: grog, smokes, porn, violent movies,..). We have some strong legal deternts to ensure none of these "adult pastimes" are open to kids, but to deny their existance turns it into a "wedge issue".
I'm not suggesting that porn should not "irk" you, I'm suggesting your "taste" should not be allowed to push "overtly sexual" people into dark alleys. Have a look at a movie called "The people vs Larry Flint", don't let the cover put you off, it's a great political drama based around the founder of Hustler magazine, it is also a great example of how the US constitution should work.
"I'm guilty of nothing more than bad taste" - Larry Flint.
10 million troops! Sorry, but you really are just as nutty as the people you are sterotyping.
I agree, I was expecting to see more than two "fingers" but saw nothing because TFV is slashdotted. So, ignoring TFV, if the "hand" is a pair of "tweezers" then this is the "world's smallest robotic hand".
I think the real breakthrough is not size, I mean how the hell do they make a "fist" with two fingers and no palm?
"Using new technology they found extra reserves where they couldn't have looked before."
Crap, uneconomic sources are simply becoming economic due to increased demand and the finite nature of oil reserves. During the nineties I read about how oil sands would be economical by about 2010. I think they were a tad optomistic, mining oil sand is exactly what they are doing in Canada today.
There is no "correct" definition of species but yours works well for many "higher order" animals, geek jokes aside many species don't even mate, they have sex with themselves.
"The problems in Africa aren't our fault. We send plenty of aid, but it ends up lining the pockets of Robert Mugabe and his ilk more than the people who need it. It's not a racial issue; it's a cultural issue."
What a bullshit cop out, culture can be said to be responsible for ALL manmade problems. The "problem" is 100+yrs of military and economic colonialism, racisim was endemic but was not specific to Africa, the real motivators of money and power have not changed. "We" systematically bled the continent dry, used it as the battle ground for the cold war and then made sure they would never rise out of poverty by preaching free trade while practising crippling protectionism. The industrialized nations have taken far more from Africa than they will ever give back through aid.
"Mugabe and his ilk" are political reactions to colonialisim, OTOH: Mandela and Gandhi also came to power fighting colonialisim.
Sorry, I misspelt hammer.
Yes, but the point is would someone with a goat fetish in the UK take any notice if ordered to marry a goat by an African "judge"?
Meanwhile the rest of the planet will treat an unenforcable court order from this judge about as seriously as they would a court order from the judge in this case.
GP was missing the link above.
"I think Spamhaus is trolling after making an ass out of itself in court."
Ummmm, they didn't go to court and they have not accepted anything, Spamhaus are demonstrating their view that the court does not have jurisdiction, Spamhaus seem to have a clue what they are talking about but the judge isn't listening since they refused to recognise the court by showing up. And if push really did come to shove then Spamhaus would probably just "reboot the company" in a different country.
I've been in front of a few judges in my time and IMHO many of them are the most arrogant people you could possibly imagine. I know very little about the US court system but I am guessing a district judge is not very high up the judicial foodchain and would have a hard time shutting down the internet no matter how hard he bangs his gabble. Meanwhile the rest of the planet will treat an unenforcable court order from this judge about as seriously as they would a court order from the judge in this case.
"Or was astrology more the forte of the Reagans?"
I think the religious right started burning astrologers at the stake last week.
Shooting "prowlers" is considered murder here in Oz. OTOH: nobody seems to care if you beat them to death with a cricket bat.
In Australia there are similar restrictions if you want to keep a handgun at home. My brother-in-law had one set up for his gun collection but compliance was a pain so he switched to using the gun club's armoury, I have never heard of cops knocking on the door in the middle of the night to inspect a private armory.
I personally couldn't be happier that the authorities demand a demonstration of responsibility from people with dangerous toys.
I live in Oz, take a good look at the porn in the servo, the "bits" you can see are no worse than "TV week's" front cover. It just looks like "porn" because they are in hermetically sealed bags and the models wear too much make-up. The strange thing is: I have never, ever, seen anyone buy them, yet they take up a fair bit of rack space????
"fo' shizzle yo nizzle"
OMG, I have to call my broker!
"That's not what it means. It means to issue a currency, not to make profit from something."
Go to google, type in 'define: monetize', look at definition 1. I checked before I posted becuse it is true that in the most common usage refers to "creating currency" and I wanted to see if "monetize the transactions" would fit that definition.
"It's offensive because people are using words they don't understand, just to sound flashy. It insults the intelligence of the reader."
While your over at google try 'define: irony', just for a laugh.
Like I said: Lot's of luck changing the world but I still think the doctrine of "premtive and overwhelming force" so beloved by the neo-cons is like pouring petrol onto smoldering ashes. You are wittnessing the death throws of medievil style theocracies as a governing force, the only way that kind of ideology will make a comeback is if the crash of civilization comes to fruition and even then it will be your christian neighbours forcing it on to you.
Preachers say some terrible things, so does talkback radio and those evangelical TV shows. Hate speech is protected under the US constitution, ( provided your not the target, eh? )
"Not all participants in the movies are entirely willing though...You kinda hope both sides annihilate each other."
I contend that since the BBS days nothing has done more to get "rock spiders" out into the daylight than investigating material found on networked computers. One particular investigation almost brought down the Danish government and had 100,000 people marching in the streets. Denmark is renowned for it's sexual freedoms but the people that produce and consume this filth are mentally disturbed criminals in the minds of the overwhelming majority of people, including those who produce and consume adult porn.
If you actually do know of any sites that have evidence of snuff films, rape, kiddie porn or gang bashings,.. then report the fuckers to the FBI, Interpol, MP, whatever...if not then STFU and let the rest of us get our rocks off in peace.
"The question should be "why shouldn't they have it"?
The have a default answer nowadays: Terroists.
The question is now, how is it a usefull tool to terrorists? The answer is "it's not". Terrorists are attempting to orchestrate the mayhem, this tool mearly allows them to watch the response.
A common statergy with terrorists (eg: AQ, Isreal) is to attck twice in the same spot. Once to get the target, the second time to get the responders. AFAIK, "wait 20-30min" is not a fucking secret!
Monetize: To turn something into money. In this case transactions taking place on youtube.
How is that offensive?