Britain's First "Web-Rage" Attack
brown-eyed slug writes "The BBC is reporting what is claimed to be Britain's first "web-rage" attack. A man drove seventy miles to assault his victim with a pick-axe handle after they exchanged insults in a Yahoo! chat room." From the article: "Det Cons Christopher Creagh, of the Metropolitan Police, said: 'This is the first instance of a web-rage attack.' Det Sgt Jean-Marc Bazzoni, of Essex Police, added the case demonstrates the importance of protecting one's identity on the internet. 'Mr Jones had posted pictures of his family on the web and had chatted to Gibbons on an audio link,' he said. 'It demonstrates how easily other users can put two and two together and also shows how children could also find themselves in danger.'"
no one here but us anonymous cowards ... oi.
That is why I do not give my home address here :-)...
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This doesn't have as much to do with the internet as they'd want you to think, I mean the guy drove 70 miles with an axe, obviously he wasn't stable to begin with.
In a world of acronyms, the words are the real victims.
..maybe it just shows how demented the attacker was
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Fucking great, he pulled the "think of the children" line...expect politicians to get involved and new laws passed to "protect the children".
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When asked by the police what his motives were, the attacker simply replied "I did it for the lulz".
"It demonstrates how easily other users can put two and two together and also shows how children could also find themselves in danger." ...which, in turn, demonstrates why children should not be allowed unfettered access to the Net. Of course, it's probably just easier to pass legislation than to watch what your kids are doing - that makes it somebody else's problem.
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He travelled 70 miles to Mr Jones' home in Clacton, Essex, and beat him up with a pickaxe handle in December 2005.
You've got to hand to the guy for travelling 70 miles just to beat someone up.
I can't wait for news about someone travelling to the other side of the globe just to beat someone up because they kept fragging them / stealing their gold / beat them double perfect in Street Fighter...
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A while back some 12 year old girl in Japan cut a classmate's throat over some stuff the classmate said about her on a personal web page.
On one hand, I find it sad that a network with the potential to unit the world, and bring us all closer together became the catalyst for such a sick, frenzied and unnecessary attack.
On the other hand, I am happy that my TCP-enabled pickaxe handle may have a market.
glad somebody else thought the same... I care not for the "children" any more.
that aside.. it is rather comic that a chat room brawl spilled out into the real world.
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"The pair met in an internet chatroom called Yahoo, Islam 10 as both had an interest in the Muslim faith, the Old Bailey was told. "
that back in the GOOD OLD DAYS(tm), that some members from both LoD and MoD were in a pissing match on Lutzifer, someone from the MoD flew out wherever this LoD member lived and beat his ass and flew home...now of course there were other details that just made this an even jucier rumor that just fueled the lore of the underground scene, such as this MoD mem ber carded his ticket. At the time didn't see too far fetch considering MoD was well known for harassing folks they didn't like (dumping their CBI records all over the place, changing their telephone services, etc)... but it was just probably a rumor :)
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You should check what they were talking about. One can't but wonder if it's a coincidence.
I wonder what the argument was about, exactly.
Police report that this guy owns not just one, but several ax-handles! He's an ax-handle nut! I wish the ax-handle lobby would own up to the fact that these things are not just dangerous, but potentially DEADLY!
Effective ax-handle control legislation is long overdue! Think of the children!
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which, in turn, demonstrates why children should not be allowed unfettered access to the Net
Boy did you miss the point entirely. That statement has nothing to do with "kids having unfettered access to the Net". The point is that even with seemingly innocuous usage of the net (posting pictures of your family or kids posting pictures of themselves, yes, even "safe" pictures) that one can leave themselves open. I know you're getting modded up because of your off the cuff but completely off the mark populist BS, but you are completely off the mark.
You're right. Sadly, misguided politicians use unfortunate incidents like this to hammer through legislation. This has less to do with the internet than one might think. Assault has been illegal long before the birth of the internet.
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This has nothing to do with the web, thugs regularly set about each other down every local pub. Is the news here that there are violent elements to society? O RLY?
The dead guy must have been some other shade of annoying to warrant the effort to drive seventy miles to kill him. I would need at least forty grand large.
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Shame! If he channeled that anger on spammers he'd be doing the world a favour!
"Psycho attacks man over perceived slight" is the dog bites man story no matter how you wrap it up for media consumption. The man bites dog story would be "Psycho drives 70 miles to clean man's snowed-in driveway with a shovel after an online exchange."
He's psychotic, what did you expect? Him to drive up with a bouquet of fresh flowers for the women of the family and a bottle of Dom Perignon for the gentlemen to savor over fine Cuban cigars?
This is one reason why I plan to live in the South as long as I live in America. Most of the South is still relatively sane. Someone comes at you with any sort of axe, ice pick, knife, etc. you're going to be hard-pressed to find a jury that will convict you for blowing their head off.
I read stories online all the time about youths beating up or murdering people in Britain and the police harassing the 50 year old Brit who asked them to just be quiet. Who are the psychos? The punk youths, the British cop and the institution he represents. I thought the definition of psychosis is a pathological inability to tell right from wrong, and last time I checked, state power harassing law-abiding British subjects set upon by violent punks is the definition of injustice--right and wrong!--making the British legal system technically psychotic.
I thought yahoo's chatrooms were IM based. Not web based. Are journalists still having difficulty with the concept of non-web internet, or do yahoo have web based chatrooms?
I remember a story of someone killing another person because the victim sold a virtual sword of the killer.
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All events like this are bad in themselves... but the more it happens, the more people might stop and think for a second before they do their utmost to cut someone to shreds, safe behind the anonymity of the internets.
The attacker was clearly a dick, but then I've little doubt that the victim was too. No, it doesn't vindicate it, but it does give me a vicious, guilty little flinch of pleasure.
Note to flamers: the interweb is full of games for bored, vicious little pillocks. Don't play one-up in chat.
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Then look at the wider picture here, with binge drinking also increasing and parts of our city centres becoming virtual war-zones on weekend evenings and you begin to wonder whatever happened to self-discipline and restraint in our society. Even take violence at football games - yes, it's decreased here in the past 20 years but only because there are so many police involved in crowd control, no violence ever has the chance to break out.
I'm certain that advertising and the media is at the core of this - kids today are constantly pounded with messages of not being "cool" until they buy, use or wear certain brands of electronic devices, clothing or music. But then, where's the education from parents that their kids just cannot have everything they want right there on the spot?
Maybe I'm wearing "rose-tinted spectacles" but I go out to other European countries a lot, particularly Spain, and I don't hear or see any of these kinds of behaviours - go out in the city streets at night and it's always a lot of people, particularly families, just out having a good time.
This is a really sad incident and we should be ashamed that it happened here.
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...welcome our web-raging, pick-axe wielding overlords (c'mon, it was inevitable..if I didn't say it, someone else would).
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There was never rage before the web was invented! What other base emotions will this new fangled technology reveal?!
Stay tuned, possibly we will see things like Web-Lust and Web-Sloth in the future. Protect the children!
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Clearly pick-axe handles should be banned straight away.
Right you are. The problem is with the attacker, not the web.
This has happened before, and not infrequently, and demonstrates that it's not the Internet at fault. Pharaceutical companies in the UK reguarly brief their employees not to wear their company ID badge off-campus, and to not leave identifying items on or about their vehicles, and coached not to leave personal information on the internet (e.g. full name) if using a company email address, for fear that the animal-rights crazies will damage person or property.
Another case -- what about the MMO game "bounty hunters" which hunt down player-killers? now THAT'S a real case of internet Web-Rage!
Finally, how many people get stiffed by a seller on a "Popular Web Auction Site" and decide to go pick up their goods/refund "in person..." occasionally with a few friends along just for fun?
People demand respect on the internets too.
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I think the case demonstrates that the internet is no different than the real world. Trade insults with a guy you just met (online or not) and he may be a violent person that will come over to your house with his buddy and kick your ass. I'm glad he wasn't killed and I hope he'll completely recover but I don't have too much sympathy.
Too many people use the supposed anonymity of the internet as an excuse to be asshats. Always remember...the other guy could be a bigger asshat.
Some of what I say is fact, some is conjecture, the rest I'm just blowing out my ass...you guess.
First Video games get heat for violence now this, more poeple goin against the web, and sure that Jack Tompson gonna have a say-so in this. (sigh) i just hope that the internet dodges this bullet so that way stuff like SlashDot (most shameful plug EVER!) will survive to see another decade.
... get away from the computer now ! Your pal John is here, he says he's bringing your shovel back. Let your dad use the computer, I saw him cleaning up his chainsaw last night. He kept babbling something... "Chat room... Annoyance... Must kill !"
I basically agree with your points, but would put a bit more emphasis on the role of the internet demonstrated by this incident. There are two factors, IMHO, that the internet contributed.
The first is the rise of chat rooms and other venues of communication that facilitate communication among people. It's often observed that they enable people from around the world to communicate, but, what is often not remarked is that people not so distant, but who would not likely have met, are also able to interact, most relevantly as illustrated in this case in a "reasonably close" proximity for physical contact. The second is the ability of the internet to facilitate "data mining" for information leading to the physical contact.
Now, it is clear that the attacker in this case is off the wall and does not represent the average antagonist on the net, but the ever widening embrace of the net is going bring an increase of the number of such unstable people in contact with others, illustrating that point that in addition to the benefits of such widespread communication are a number of pitfalls.
He should have let him know up front who he was dealing with.
"On one hand, I find it sad that a network with the potential to unit the world, and bring us all closer together became the catalyst for such a sick, frenzied and unnecessary attack."
Telegraph, Telephone. They united us, but not in the "happy go lucky" way you all expect the Internet to be.
Did anyone else notice the use of "partner" in the article? It might just be a culture thing between Britian and America, but "partner" over in the US is generally used when referring to a same sexed spouse (that is until MA approved of gay marriage).
Also, I noticed "Their exchanges soured after Gibbons accused Mr Jones of spreading rumours about him." Am I the only one making a connection?
... I now understand the true potential in this bash.org quote.
"Let's face it, it's a good story. Accuracy would kill it."
What would you expect a wee-little japanese girl to do BUT to cut the throat out of her worst enemy for writing bad things about her ?
these kinds of "rage" attacks are definitely on the increases p
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WRONG
http://www.crimestatistics.org.uk/output/Page63.a
(And thats before taking Victorian London into account)
with binge drinking also increasing
LOL ! Getting shitfaced is obviously a new phenominon
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Even take violence at football games - yes, it's decreased here in the past 20 years but only because there are so many police
Nothing to do with the rise of MDMA in the late 80's & early 90's then?
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Stop reading the News of the Screws / Daily Hate and get a grip.
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Don't believe what you read is the truth.
I'm surprised that there are ever two or more real people in a Yahoo chat room these days. Every time I go into one it seems to be me and 49 bots (a problem Yahoo could easily solve by making users pass a Turing test after every couple of hours online - maybe they could also require provision of a 'real' (i.e. ISP-based - not hotmail, etc.) email address when registering).
Drifting further off-topic along this train of thought, I wonder if Yahoo's advertisers realise how many of their reported user base is non-existent.
Its about time 2 internet tough guys met up. god knows you see that shit in chat all the time. I do think its imoportant to protect your identity bvut when you are in business like web hsoting, server admin, otr whatever you cant hide your identity and expect for people to trust sedning you money. Some people take the internet wayyy too seriously.
I'm embarrassed on behalf of all of us that nobody was on the ball enough to camcorder the assault and get it up onto YouTube. Without the supporting video link this is nothing but a Fark headline.
These stories are free but worth money.
With a little time and paitence, most anyone can get an address if they have an IP. Why give them that chance?
anoNet gives you the opportunity to have as much anonymity as you want. It doesn't prevent someone from being a dumbass, but it does give that extra little bit to people that do want their privacy.
It is what the Internet was back before big brother stopped by.
Give it a chance, you may like it.
First Incident of Web-Rage or the millionith (ish) incident of one Human going nuts and attacking another.
So, What's new?
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Every time you OMGWTF on the internet it bring an axe-wielding psychopath 70 miles closer
You'd think that it would have been an attack against a spammer. I'm always amazed at the number of people that spammers piss off and yet, there isn't some nut-case willing to take the law into their own hands. Perhaps it means that there aren't as many nut-cases as one would want to believe.
If they had access to personal firearms, there would be no such danger. A bit of blood and gore to clean up, perhaps, but that guy would be the dead guy on my lawn.
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This just in, insulting strangers turns out to be a bad idea. "Yeah, I felt like a big man when I cursed that guy with my foul language, but I realized that might have been unwise when he drove 70 miles to kick my ass", said the man after the incident. "As it turns out, my talk was much tougher than I was."
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This is one reason why I plan to live in the South as long as I live in America. Most of the South is still relatively sane. Someone comes at you with any sort of axe, ice pick, knife, etc. you're going to be hard-pressed to find a jury that will convict you for blowing their head off.
.00001% percent. Don't put yourself in this situation, and there's really no need to own a gun to blow someone's brain out.
And us yankees are up here are tilting our eyebrows at the fact that in the south you have people that are coming at you with a pick axe in the first place.
This is typical short sighted thinking. I'm not trying to start a yankee/southern war, just saying this is short sighted in general. The internet is only inflaming already existant problems in any society when things like this happen.
1) The idiot who got into the argument who got beaten didn't think that there were repercussions on the internet. Lots of people think they have total anonymity. They do not.
2) The idiot who did the beating has a severe problem with reality and anger management. He's a problem that needs to be dealt with, using whatever conservative or liberal means you deem fit. The internet just allowed him to see the fucknut in #1 as an object of anger and not as a human, and the internet enabled him to find this guy and unleash his rage, which he obviously doesn't know how to control.
3) I try very hard not to put myself in either of these positions. It's really easy. 99.99999% of the time people have an easy to descern reason as to why they want to hurt you if they indeed are going to try to hurt you. None of this "whackos are stalking you randomly" bullshit, that's the remaining
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Rage?
He just wanted to axe him a question.
By calling it "web rage". Obviously, this man was not in control of himself. Clearly someone who drives 70 miles doesn't have any time to think about their actions at all, it's completely impulsive.
maybe something to think about the next time some punk wants to trash talk on xbox live...
*set to anonymous*
What this man was lacking was a safe way to act out his aggressions on the person he was chatting with. And what do they call a chat application where you can bludgeon the other users with a blunt object? Deathmatch.
No, it demonstrate the importance of acting civilized and how people should stop acting like savages just because they are not in front of the person they are communicating with.
;-)
I dunno about that, I mean, if I could tell the judge "look at these post, he was a troll" and get off with a warning about feeding trolls, then it would be worth the drive
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Okay class, this concludes today's example of Social Engineering.
Yes, of course we should live by a cop's advice on how to avoid picking a fight with a homicidal maniac, through secrecy. It sounds like he's marketing to encourage more copwork.
How about not picking a fight with a homicidal maniac, either in person, on the phone, over an "audio link" (like VoIP), email, the Web, in Letters to the Editor...
Unless you can take them. I recommend a garbage can lid, a can of mace, and a sawed off shotgun.
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In the UK partner just means 'the other one in the relationship' not nessicarily gay or straight, or even married at all.
He's psychotic, what did you expect? [...] This is one reason why I plan to live in the South as long as I live in America. Most of the South is still relatively sane. Someone comes at you with any sort of axe, ice pick, knife, etc. you're going to be hard-pressed to find a jury that will convict you for blowing their head off.
If that story had taken place in the southern united states, the guy would have driven the 70 miles with his gun and blown the victim away when he opened the door.
When guns are illegal, only pickaxe handles are handy to psycho net ragers.
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The two people lived 70 miles apart. Without the invention of the automobile this would be at least a 4 day trip both ways. Or maybe we can blame the pick-axe for this one. Without the damn pick-axe he'd have to attack him with his bare hands.
The GP is right. The story has little to do with the internet. It has at least as much to do with automobiles as it does the internet.
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I know that I've been in some pretty heated debates with people myself wishing I could take a board to their heads. I hope this phenomena converges with "flash mobs". Just imagine the fun that could be had. (I'm a true anarchist at heart!)
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Yahoo Chat is full of pornbots with profiles containing links with a URL something like blogs.blogopt (a play on blogspot?) and they number in the thousands and constant spam the chatrooms...
plus the trolls and social mis-fits with no life with nothing to do but fight & argue, i abandoned Yahoo completely earler this year because of the sorry state of chat and email with poor spam filters...
yhoo is losing stock value big time too, i expect yahoo to be either bought or up for sale or auction soon...
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70 miles? Even in GTA missions I wouldn't drive 70 miles to plant an axe in some poor schmuck's head. You've got to be a dedicated kind of killer to do that - a murderer with a yahoo chat room agenda. Ordinary murderers get bored/lose interest/get high before anything like 70 miles is behind them. Kudos to this guy. He has strengthened my faith in reality, and given us all a remarkable example of determination and endurance in the business of wacking the trolls.
Like others have said however, if you're a nut on the tubes, you're a nut anywhere.
London really is a great place to lounge and idle (so long as you have money).
The parent should be modded Informative.
should they already be coining a term "web-rage" for it??
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In polite society you do not verbally assult someone you disagree with. It was a common opinion that if the best you could do in a discussion was to insult or threaten it pointed to a weakness in your own intellect and that you were uncouth at best. Amongst rational, intelligent people you may have a passionate discussion, make your point (or counterpoint) and still remain civil. Maybe it is the belief that the Internet, email, chat rooms or IRC are anonymous and you can be as ignorant and belligerent as you can. There was a time when people put much thought into the written word. Eg, letters, newspaper articles and in public speaking. At the moment, personal communication through chat, email or blogs is the most base form of expression. You can see "evolution in action" (thanks Larry Niven for that phrase) on the Jerry Springer Show. That is what is becoming of human discourse. Eventually we will devolve back into screaming apes, throwing twigs at each other across tree-tops.
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This only demonstrates that the Internet is merely a conduit human behavior; all the things, whether condoned by society or not, that have been going on for thousands if not millions of years, simply move online.
A man drove seventy miles to assault his victim with a pick-axe handle after they exchanged insults in a Yahoo! chat room.
Subject says it all...
In 1992 Dr. Frabricant ranted about slights from his collegues at Concordia university in sci.research.careers, before killing some of them. Usenet people thought this was another typical usenet flame war until the murder story appeared in the regular news. They we were horrified.
Rage is something different then this. You don't have coherent thought, your unable to speak. I'd really doubt you'd be able to drive 70 miles in a "rage" to kill someone.
This more "web-assholishness" which does exist but has been documented more then enough times.
In conclusion rage != being really angry.
Though I must admit he certainly "went the distance".
(Please refrain from passing judgement on this, or calling me an idiot) I once dated this girl in another country. She had a boyfriend. I knew about that, but I didn't know him, so played some moral arithmetic to cancel everything out. One day he knocked on my door, having travelled from yet another country to come and find me. And he wasn't a happy camper. The moment I saw his face I knew what had happened. She'd left her email account open. My emails came from a domain registered by me. My home address was in the registration. Not smart at all. But hell can I empathise with this story. People on the Internet are real. Heck, I'm real, and a punch still hurts no matter what the techno-background of the story.
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Yeah, because no one ever gets murdered with a firearm in the UK.
Who ever said the world was perfect?
The point is it's easier to kill with a gun than with a big stick and a knife, so when someone unstable is looking for a wepon, the harder it is to find a gun, the safer we are.
You can't take the sky from me...
No so different from a traditional web-page attack. With a pick-ax handle? Just a web attack, but in person... the guy got de-faced... It was de-facement... get it? *yawn*
The Yahoo chatroom was called Islam 10.
Reduce, reuse, cycle
and everything to do with the fact that these guys were regulars in some weird Islamic chatroom. I mean, in the times article it seems like one of the first things he did was brag to the people in the channel about how he cut the other guy's throat. Obviously this isn't your regular yahoo literati crowd.
Don't be a twat on the internet, just because you think you're anonymous. Somebody will eventually snap, hunt you down, and beat you silly.
Well as everyone posting here missed UK, US and the "coalition forces" went all the way to the other side of the globe to beat the f@#$%@3ing crap outta millions of people as well as killing them. Now bbc doesn't go into question whether this is a "civilized" or sane act. Nowhere in the official news take these actions as savage. The whole article is at best cynical and worthless. I think police should arrest all those involve in the occupation, including blairwitch, bush and et.al, and question their sanity. I mean it would be fun to see a slashdot post, "Third, or fourth, TVnews-attack, internet-brouhaha-attack on third coutnries..." ha ha ha
get a grip lusrs
What kind of internet showdown is that?? Clearly he should have used the Bastard Sword of G'lyea with the +3 stamina mod.
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No matter how thin you slice it, its still baloney.
At least they are using a hammer and not a pickaxe.
This is way more related to the cold blooded violence than the fact that is in the Internet or in Britain or whatever.
In fact, expect much more 'Internet' violence as soon as the muslims learn more to use the technology.
Posting anonymously because I want to keep my head on my neck.
This underscores the concept that any communication medium is only as safe/dangerous as the people using it. I am sure there have been cases of "FAX Rage" too, but that is not sexy enough to make the news.
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Clearly the problem is that pick axes and chat rooms are too easy to access to the general public. It is madness that any person can just boot up their computer and access a chat room, or just walk into a hardware store and purchase a pick axe, with no sort of government supervision or licencing. It is undeniable that if chat rooms and pick axes were restricted the same way firearms are restricted now, then a brutal chat-room-pick-axe attacks like this would have never happened.
How anyone can look at this violent crime, and not support chat-room-control and pick-axe control is proof that they are brainwashed by the chat room industry and the pick-axe industry!
the guy probably ninja'd his thorium vein in WoW.
Definitly best to carry this out with a pickaxe.
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Umm... we only have to ban pick-axe handles, he didn't attack him with the actual pick-axe.
That aside, if it wasn't for the UK's stupid gun control laws he could have met the guy at the door with a 12 gauge rather than a kitchen knife.
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if they think needlessly insulting someone could cause them to get unexpected and violent visitors.
I'm serious actually, we seem to have built a society wehre it's normal to score points by getting in peoples faces and not even spending a second thinking about stuff from someone else's point of view. I'm not just talking about schoolyard teasing either. It's become normal to think people are weak if they show the ability to consider not just their immediate interests when expressing their viewpoints.
Learning to control your desire to dump on someone that is somehow offensive to you is like an early childhood lesson, or it should be.
Couple that with the general frustration people are feeling (at least over her in the US) with how stagnant wage is and how hard it is to afford the basics of education, healthcare and retirement and you got a bad mix of emotions.
It doesn't help that the current US gov't is teaching a new generation that violence is an acceptable solution to problems, but I guess people could have more than one view on that.
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Sheesh Slashdot is letting me down these days...
I suppose the UK will ban pick axe handles now. They've already banned certain kitchen knives and jsut about all guns. Next will be banning anger.
This guy is way out there
The normal URL won't load for me, but this one does (I got it from the mirrordot copy)
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http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/
"The pair met in an internet chatroom called Yahoo, Islam 10 as both had an interest in the Muslim faith"
Guess they're getting the hang of it then.....
Obviously we need laws making it illegal to communicate on the internet.
Hard to believe a member of the Muslim faith would overreact and become violent at an imagined insult.
I suppose because this is releated to the internet that they will now have to create a new law for this sort of offence so that people are aware that it can happen. But the sentance will be 3 times worse than a normal attack ?
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You can't take the sky from me...
This is a good reason to keep the tubes small enough that man with an axe-handle can't fit through.
Why do I have little sympathy for someone being an asshat, saying things you'd never say to someone else's face, and getting attacked for it?
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Just can't put my finger on it
Wow, I find it interesting that there's only one tiny small eeenie weenie reference to this fact mentioned anywhere that I saw:
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"The court was told that Mr Jones, 43, had posted personal details about himself online and used his real name when participating in a Yahoo! chatroom dedicated to Islam, where he met Gibbons." - from http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2409469
What a surprise, an act of violence occurs after some people were in a chatroom about that peaceful religion we kep hearing about lately, Islam, and furthermore, the media barely even mentions the fact. They don't even say whether Gibbons, or Jones, or both, were muslims - I for one would actualy like to know whether it was the muslim getting beat up, or the muslim doing the beating (or both).
Really, I would like to know. Does anyone have any other links giving more detail on the story?
Anyway, I don't mean to start a religious flame war here, but it makes it hard when this whole big 'first case in britain of web rage' headline comes along - and it's about an argument on an Islamic chat room.
AND PEOPLE DON'T EVEN NOTICE.
Early bird may get the worm.. but the second mouse gets the cheese.
I, for one, Welcome our new axe-handle wielding Overlords!
All the loonies have a modem