There is no need to complicate the scenario. This is what typically happens when people describe this stuff which is great for explaining the theory but they sometimes forget to mention what happens in practice.
Here is what they often forget to mention: 1) I want to make a journey I measure as 100LY. I accelerate then decelerate at 1g for equal amounts of time to stop at my destination. 2) A bunch strange perceptual shit happens.. 3) The journey takes less than 100 Y for me.
I never said it was easy at all. I said that it was not theoretically impossible at all in practical terms. Also that the the above simplification leads people who don't understand the theory to assume it is impossible.
This is a huge difference which you are wilfully ignoring in your desperation to construct a straw man to burn at the stake.
Just because you cannot understand something, does not mean it is rubbish.
This is a gross oversimplification and has been misleading people for decades.
When communicating velocity for practical purposes we always do so in terms of relative velocity with a common frame of reference. We do this because to do otherwise is utterly ridiculous.
It is perfectly "legal" to travel at relative velocities faster than C - even if your starting relative velocities were zero. Now I understand and I assume you know: as you accelerate towards C, wierd things happen to the frames of reference of the traveller and external observer. But this really is irrelevant for practical purposes.
The important point is that to YOUR OWN measurements as taken BEFORE the trip, you travelled faster than the speed of light. This is the common and practical frame of reference that we would use to communicate our velocity. i.e. This was 100 LY away and I covered it in this amount of my time so I travelled at...
THAT, my friend, is what counts here for practical purposes of travel - as opposed to the esoteric world of the theory.
What many here are suggesting (practically speaking) is metaphorically akin to taking a velocity reading of your own body while sprinting on a supersonic jet and concluding you are travelling 6 km/hr as relative to the jet.
And it is a stupid thing to tell the average person because they fail to see the value in jet travel (durrr...I could never run to Paris!). (which is what has happened with space travel)
And likewise you can make anything relative to anything else and make it seem like that comparison is somehow more important.
The important point is that to an independent "observer" and to YOUR OWN measurements as taken BEFORE the trip, you travelled faster than the speed of light.
THAT, my friend, is what counts here for practical purposes.
What you are suggesting (practically speaking) is metaphorically akin to taking a velocity reading of your own body while seated on a supersonic jet and concluding you are travelling 0 km/hr because you are not moving relative to the jet.
And it is a stupid thing to tell the average person because they fail to see the value in jet travel. (which is what has happened with space travel)
Answer: Decades of chanting USA USA and believe that they are the "greatest country in the world" and "stand for all that's good in the world" etc while ignoring the reality of increasing political corruption, inequality in many areas and not just economic, immoral government policy both foreign and domestic, etc. Add to this relativistic comparisons to the completely sorry state of competing super powers. (e.g. "Well go live in russia then...")
And this does not apply to all americans: Just the ignorant ones which unfortunately make up the voting majority as well as the main media organisations...
QED
There is probably a theory about "empires" and the momentum of public opinion long after the rot has set in...but I just don't give enough of a fuck TBH...
Abetted by most of the citizens of the US, either by apathy, ignorance or acceptance.
It brings to mind this wonderful quote oft. paraphrased by unionists:
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me." -- Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)
Well US IT workers, welcome to the real world. While you have been living in your tech bubble for over a decade, this has been happening in one form or another to US factory and other workers for a very long time. People bellyached of course but nothing of substance was done. Everybody lined up behind the republican or democrat soup kitchen line or just opted out and the country continued as it always has.
I cannot remember how many anti-union posts I have read on this very website over the years (although less so lately...too little too late of course) The ridiculous pontificating for "free-market", "libertarianism" or other bollocks with no scientific, moral or any other foundation at all.
And while you might cry "everyone else is the same, why pick on us?". But you are not the same. You had access to the tools of change the whole time, you are smart and capable.
This is what comes from being asleep at the wheel. You get what you vote for...even if you don't vote.
PS: I am not talking to the extreme minority who did something - congrats to you and I wish there were more of you.
The buck not stopping is a perfectly valid situation.
In fact one could argue it is exactly how the world got so ridiculous in the first place. Everyone complains and blames the other guys who in turn blames someone else until the graph with cycles is formed.
And while this pointless circular finger pointing goes on, the world burns. And it turns out we are almost meaning that literally...
Positions of power attract sociopathic and authoritarian personalities. They in turn tend to create toxic environments that push other types out and allow and even reward bad behaviour.
>I am sick and tired of them Islamists --- they create trouble EVERYWHERE >Not only in the United States, Europe, they also make troubles in Australia, in Russia, in Thailand, in Kenya, in China, in Nigeria, and so on, and so forth >The world at large has been very tolerant with them, but there is a limit to everything
I think the truth is probably buried in the spin and reductive reporting.
Taking it at face value however (like some chump would ) I would say this is one of those situations where it a morally undefendable position theoretically but in practice a very wise idea.
But their solution is bogus. How hard will it be to find a man willing to tow the line?
The hard reality is that in science is deeply pervasive and in many different ways. To think that you can solve it by adding more sexes to the mix...well that is just plain stupid.
We should ASSUME bias in all scientific research as a baseline and work to disprove that hypothesis with further research and more studies. A devil's advocate approach.
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There is no need to complicate the scenario. This is what typically happens when people describe this stuff which is great for explaining the theory but they sometimes forget to mention what happens in practice.
Here is what they often forget to mention:
1) I want to make a journey I measure as 100LY. I accelerate then decelerate at 1g for equal amounts of time to stop at my destination.
2) A bunch strange perceptual shit happens..
3) The journey takes less than 100 Y for me.
QED.
I never said it was easy at all. I said that it was not theoretically impossible at all in practical terms. Also that the the above simplification leads people who don't understand the theory to assume it is impossible.
This is a huge difference which you are wilfully ignoring in your desperation to construct a straw man to burn at the stake.
Just because you cannot understand something, does not mean it is rubbish.
This is a gross oversimplification and has been misleading people for decades.
When communicating velocity for practical purposes we always do so in terms of relative velocity with a common frame of reference. We do this because to do otherwise is utterly ridiculous.
It is perfectly "legal" to travel at relative velocities faster than C - even if your starting relative velocities were zero. Now I understand and I assume you know: as you accelerate towards C, wierd things happen to the frames of reference of the traveller and external observer. But this really is irrelevant for practical purposes.
The important point is that to YOUR OWN measurements as taken BEFORE the trip, you travelled faster than the speed of light. This is the common and practical frame of reference that we would use to communicate our velocity. i.e. This was 100 LY away and I covered it in this amount of my time so I travelled at...
THAT, my friend, is what counts here for practical purposes of travel - as opposed to the esoteric world of the theory.
What many here are suggesting (practically speaking) is metaphorically akin to taking a velocity reading of your own body while sprinting on a supersonic jet and concluding you are travelling 6 km/hr as relative to the jet.
And it is a stupid thing to tell the average person because they fail to see the value in jet travel (durrr...I could never run to Paris!). (which is what has happened with space travel)
And likewise you can make anything relative to anything else and make it seem like that comparison is somehow more important.
The important point is that to an independent "observer" and to YOUR OWN measurements as taken BEFORE the trip, you travelled faster than the speed of light.
THAT, my friend, is what counts here for practical purposes.
What you are suggesting (practically speaking) is metaphorically akin to taking a velocity reading of your own body while seated on a supersonic jet and concluding you are travelling 0 km/hr because you are not moving relative to the jet.
And it is a stupid thing to tell the average person because they fail to see the value in jet travel. (which is what has happened with space travel)
Not at all. The patent system is a god given right that must be defended at all costs.
Billions of dollars in legal fees is a small price to pay to protect the little guy....
No politician wants everything to stay the same. They ALL run on platforms of change.
To think these terms mean anything just betrays a very primitive understanding of politics.
That is a meaningless term when referring to a politicians position.
Hitler was a progressive using the dictionary definition of the term....
I meant in government or with a functional membership and enough funding to make a difference...
Yes, there are fringe parties all over the world and I am aware of that.
Yes, your straw man is irrelevant.
You can mod it down, won't stop it being true.
Truth hurts...
There are no left parties in the US.
You are one of the ignorant majority I see.
Answer:
Decades of chanting USA USA and believe that they are the "greatest country in the world" and "stand for all that's good in the world" etc while ignoring the reality of increasing political corruption, inequality in many areas and not just economic, immoral government policy both foreign and domestic, etc.
Add to this relativistic comparisons to the completely sorry state of competing super powers. (e.g. "Well go live in russia then...")
And this does not apply to all americans: Just the ignorant ones which unfortunately make up the voting majority as well as the main media organisations...
QED
There is probably a theory about "empires" and the momentum of public opinion long after the rot has set in...but I just don't give enough of a fuck TBH...
I hate morons who don't know the meaning of the world "liberal" more.
Hilary is not a liberal.
Abetted by most of the citizens of the US, either by apathy, ignorance or acceptance.
It brings to mind this wonderful quote oft. paraphrased by unionists:
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me."
-- Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)
Well US IT workers, welcome to the real world. While you have been living in your tech bubble for over a decade, this has been happening in one form or another to US factory and other workers for a very long time. People bellyached of course but nothing of substance was done.
Everybody lined up behind the republican or democrat soup kitchen line or just opted out and the country continued as it always has.
I cannot remember how many anti-union posts I have read on this very website over the years (although less so lately...too little too late of course) The ridiculous pontificating for "free-market", "libertarianism" or other bollocks with no scientific, moral or any other foundation at all.
And while you might cry "everyone else is the same, why pick on us?". But you are not the same. You had access to the tools of change the whole time, you are smart and capable.
This is what comes from being asleep at the wheel. You get what you vote for...even if you don't vote.
PS: I am not talking to the extreme minority who did something - congrats to you and I wish there were more of you.
Who says it has to stop?
The buck not stopping is a perfectly valid situation.
In fact one could argue it is exactly how the world got so ridiculous in the first place. Everyone complains and blames the other guys who in turn blames someone else until the graph with cycles is formed.
And while this pointless circular finger pointing goes on, the world burns. And it turns out we are almost meaning that literally...
That wasn't equivalence in total. Apparently the one needing help is yourself - specifically remedial reading.
I was restricting the example to the passage quoted...
But feel free to pretend that your WWF-style straw man take-down was a victory.
Its slightly worse than that:
Positions of power attract sociopathic and authoritarian personalities. They in turn tend to create toxic environments that push other types out and allow and even reward bad behaviour.
HAHA! Flamebait!
My karma can take it. You mods can go back to chanting "USA" over and over while you chew your cud.
>I am sick and tired of them Islamists --- they create trouble EVERYWHERE
>Not only in the United States, Europe, they also make troubles in Australia, in Russia, in Thailand, in Kenya, in China, in Nigeria, and so on, and so forth
>The world at large has been very tolerant with them, but there is a limit to everything
One could say the same about the USA...
It will be inevitably filled with humans... ...at least until we destroy ourselves...
WRONG.
Unity does not use this model.
And if you think there is not value in the time-value of money then you need to study business more...
You are wrong. Having seen this in action first hand in my own country I can predict this has NOTHING to do with religion.
Typically this is more about the gravy not being forthcoming to the local "leaders".
You are still talking shit...and being very small minded.
This is a verified experimental result.
It needs further investigation and is an exciting result.
All your jibber jabber does not change this fact or my previous one.
errr...
Hang on a sec.
So you are saying that they have less shielding than a tin foil hat??
If not, then you have missed my point entirely...
I think the truth is probably buried in the spin and reductive reporting.
Taking it at face value however (like some chump would ) I would say this is one of those situations where it a morally undefendable position theoretically but in practice a very wise idea.
But their solution is bogus. How hard will it be to find a man willing to tow the line?
The hard reality is that in science is deeply pervasive and in many different ways. To think that you can solve it by adding more sexes to the mix...well that is just plain stupid.
We should ASSUME bias in all scientific research as a baseline and work to disprove that hypothesis with further research and more studies. A devil's advocate approach.
I thought the space capsules were essentially wearing those already?
Revised news headline: Astronauts leave earth the best, fittest and brightest of us; come back as space jocks.