That raises a question for me - what does qualify as a programming language per se? Does it have to be compiled, or have a certain syntax, or what? Does that mean Perl isn't a programming language?
And I erroneously left VB, C# and Perl out of my list - what a dipshit I am sometimes.:)
Why oh why does this remind me of that hilarious episode of Robot Chicken. Ok - I know - they're ALL hilarious, but the one where Cobra was like a corporation...
Oh crap - if you don't know what I am talking about, then go watch some adult swim!
That is a sweet but short tutorial on some common command line uses! I'll definitely find uses for that! Thanks so much for posting that instead of just defending it - that's a fantastic explanation.
My eyes crossed when I tried to read those two lines. Being a Linux newbie, I understand what the pipes are for, and I understand kill, grep and awk. However, I have no clue what the hell you are trying to do with that. That's one of the main disadvantages I think of CLI, they are generally not as readable to people who don't know how it works already. That's one of the advantages of OOP - I can jump from language to language and can generally pick it up quickly because the types of interfaces and systems of syntax are generally quite similar because of the structure of OO systems.
I am not disagreeing with you that OOP is better. It's just for a different audience, one that is more interested in extensible, reusable code that's easy to understand.
I use CLI all the time for various tasks, but not on your level yet!
I'll comment on yours, as I am using the same: Ubuntu - I'm actually using the AMD64 build - I've found that it is a pain in the ass sometimes to get certain software installed - some of it doesn't work at all in 64 because no one has ported it yet and it refuses to install or run. I suspect most of the problem lies in running on the bleeding edge. Windows XP - This works GREAT pretty much all the time. However, take that with a grain of salt, as I completely wipe and rebuild XP every three months because I get tired of the registry spider web that ends up happening with any flavor of Windows.
I haven't got the time or I would look myself - does anyone have any more informative sources on the specific information about the cause of the problem? And WTF is a "Message Storm"? God - another catchphrase - great!
All I can say is: CK: So, if there's anything I can do for you, or, more to the point, to you, you just let me know. SS : Can you hammer a six-inch spike through a board with your penis? CK : Not right now. S : A girl's gotta have her standards.
Tom - that line: render porn at acceptable jerk rates just slayed me. I can just see some teenager, sweaty palm and all, swearing at his computer as it tries to display the latest Playmate in all her glory at 1 line per second...
That is interesting. It only ever lists the latest version that is installed for me - it seems to automatically get rid of the older one. What OS are you using?
When reading your comment, I just about crapped myself laughing.
"I'm stuffed, I can't take no more input for a while"
I get the image of an overweight NY truck driver sitting at a greasy spoon holding his belly groaning.
"Oh dear, I'm confused, I'll be doing totally silly crap now"
This one is Winnie the Pooh on LSD. Man - that was hilarious, thanks!
Having created an online store application, I have struggled with security issues. If it weren't for those, it would have easily taken 1/2 the time that it did to create the application.
One of the main things I concentrated on for the back-end db piece was to verify the data that comes in against the DB itself, and it never accepts data from the end user on pricing (whether or not it's in the form or hidden in the form).
I built the application with two assumptions: 1) Never trust the client. 2) Be wary of the 3rd tier - you never know when it will become hacked.
Thankfully I've never had to deal with #2, but expect to someday! Access information for the DB isn't even stored on the 3rd tier, it's on the 2nd tier, and the 3rd tier has to ask the 2nd tier for access to query the 2nd tier. It's a relatively simple setup but seems to be effective.
I get the feeling that someone really does not like me. Every single one of my posts in this topic have been moderated -1 Overrated. Mind you, I do not really care one way or the other, but I do find it interesting that they were all moderated at about the same time and were all in the same thread.
LOL - I really shouldn't read this at work, but no one is here to hear my guffawing.
I'm going to take it that you've played Doom obsessively in the past, because one who had not would not be able to paint such a nice description of it in such a short number of words.
The space conquest game BTW is a LOT simpler than that. I don't remember the name of it specifically but it's a game that came with my distro - Mandrake 10.1 You never actually see any violence, it's a lot like Risk in a way.
But to see him shouting at the computer screen calling it "jerk" or "meanie" was rather disconcerting. When he would win, he'd dance and taunt the computer. Don't get me wrong a little celebration is certainly in order but he REALLY got into it. It got to the point that I simply had to make him stop playing it because he started displaying the same behaviour towards his siblings. That stopped within a couple days of denying access to that game.
He can still play it, but only with me or my wife, as he's not about to start calling us names when we beat the pants off him. I have to say he is really improving at strategy though.
That's a very good question. Actually, right now he does in fact have a multi-day assignment, a book report. Last night his task for that assignment was to do the research (reading). Tonight he will write 1/2 of his report, and tomorrow night finish it.
I don't know how well something like that will work once he gets into the really heavy stuff, but part of the point of growing up is that you learn to take responsibility for your own actions and duties. As time passes, I will leave more and more of the decision making to him.
I do not know of anyone who has actually sat down and planned out their parenting plan for years ahead of now. I can tell you what I am thinking about for the next month or two for him specifically, but farther than that is wishful thinking about my prognostication ability!
It's actually quite violent. It doesn't have blood/guts, but there sure is a lot of fighting. Of course, he probably identifies with it a lot better because he actually performs in Renaissance Faires with us too.
We do in fact currently do this sort of thing, but the problem is the budgeting of time. If, for example, I state that he gets 5 hours per week to play video games in and am able to leave the actual budgeting of the time up to him, I fully expect that he is going to go in and play 4 hours the first day, the last hour the second day and then grumble about it for the rest of the week.
Currently, the time management we use is usually along the lines of: "If you get your homework completed, your chores finished, and you do an extra chore of then you will get 45 minutes to play tonight, with the latest you can stay up being 9:00PM".
Given those parameters, he does pretty well under that system. However this is another of those parenting nuggets you can sometimes find, in that you can actually use it as an educational tool at the same time. Teaching good time management and budgeting is an important part of being a parent, and this is another opportunity to do that.
I could do this with a piece of paper, a spreadsheet, or whatever on my own of course, but having the energy and time to do that for each child is difficult.
You just named the highlights of my life growing up too.
My other two sons have actually had their IQ tested, one's 129, the other 156. My youngest though, he scares me, because he seems to easily be smarter than the other two.
I know I'm going to have problems motivating those three, just because of how far ahead they already are. My oldest son who is 9 and in the third grade is already at a 6th grade reading level. He is about to graduate to junior high books and I just lent him my copy of LOTR which he is just devouring.
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Who let the dogg out... snoop snoop
That raises a question for me - what does qualify as a programming language per se? Does it have to be compiled, or have a certain syntax, or what? Does that mean Perl isn't a programming language?
:)
And I erroneously left VB, C# and Perl out of my list - what a dipshit I am sometimes.
And what about all of us who write the:
:)
HTML
CSS
JS
XSLT
ASP
SQL
COM+
from end-to-end - what the hell are we?
Dude...
All I can say is that I really hope that was a joke. If not, I think you need to move to Fark.
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You have Got To Be Kidding Me
Why oh why does this remind me of that hilarious episode of Robot Chicken. Ok - I know - they're ALL hilarious, but the one where Cobra was like a corporation...
Oh crap - if you don't know what I am talking about, then go watch some adult swim!
Ok - you officially RAWK.
That is a sweet but short tutorial on some common command line uses! I'll definitely find uses for that! Thanks so much for posting that instead of just defending it - that's a fantastic explanation.
Holy crap.
My eyes crossed when I tried to read those two lines. Being a Linux newbie, I understand what the pipes are for, and I understand kill, grep and awk. However, I have no clue what the hell you are trying to do with that. That's one of the main disadvantages I think of CLI, they are generally not as readable to people who don't know how it works already. That's one of the advantages of OOP - I can jump from language to language and can generally pick it up quickly because the types of interfaces and systems of syntax are generally quite similar because of the structure of OO systems.
I am not disagreeing with you that OOP is better. It's just for a different audience, one that is more interested in extensible, reusable code that's easy to understand.
I use CLI all the time for various tasks, but not on your level yet!
I'll comment on yours, as I am using the same:
Ubuntu - I'm actually using the AMD64 build - I've found that it is a pain in the ass sometimes to get certain software installed - some of it doesn't work at all in 64 because no one has ported it yet and it refuses to install or run. I suspect most of the problem lies in running on the bleeding edge.
Windows XP - This works GREAT pretty much all the time. However, take that with a grain of salt, as I completely wipe and rebuild XP every three months because I get tired of the registry spider web that ends up happening with any flavor of Windows.
Nice reference....
If you don't get it, think Sigourney Weaver and Bill Paxton.
Hoo Boy - I wish I had points - just for:
"written by a man who could be described as the love child between John Dvorak and Satan"
It just brought the image to my mind of Dvorak and Satan debating who got to be the woman.
I haven't got the time or I would look myself - does anyone have any more informative sources on the specific information about the cause of the problem? And WTF is a "Message Storm"? God - another catchphrase - great!
All I can say is:
CK: So, if there's anything I can do for you, or, more to the point, to you, you just let me know.
SS : Can you hammer a six-inch spike through a board with your penis?
CK : Not right now.
S : A girl's gotta have her standards.
Tom - that line: render porn at acceptable jerk rates just slayed me. I can just see some teenager, sweaty palm and all, swearing at his computer as it tries to display the latest Playmate in all her glory at 1 line per second...
I liked it so much, I changed my sig...
COME ON moderators - how the heck is the parent a troll?
Someone please mod parent up - it is a valid question.
Do they call the excrement Slurm by chance?
Woohoo!
That is interesting. It only ever lists the latest version that is installed for me - it seems to automatically get rid of the older one. What OS are you using?
When reading your comment, I just about crapped myself laughing.
"I'm stuffed, I can't take no more input for a while"
I get the image of an overweight NY truck driver sitting at a greasy spoon holding his belly groaning.
"Oh dear, I'm confused, I'll be doing totally silly crap now"
This one is Winnie the Pooh on LSD. Man - that was hilarious, thanks!
I like the problem you give at the bottom.
Having created an online store application, I have struggled with security issues. If it weren't for those, it would have easily taken 1/2 the time that it did to create the application.
One of the main things I concentrated on for the back-end db piece was to verify the data that comes in against the DB itself, and it never accepts data from the end user on pricing (whether or not it's in the form or hidden in the form).
I built the application with two assumptions:
1) Never trust the client.
2) Be wary of the 3rd tier - you never know when it will become hacked.
Thankfully I've never had to deal with #2, but expect to someday! Access information for the DB isn't even stored on the 3rd tier, it's on the 2nd tier, and the 3rd tier has to ask the 2nd tier for access to query the 2nd tier. It's a relatively simple setup but seems to be effective.
That and those damned buffer overflows! ARGH.
I get the feeling that someone really does not like me. Every single one of my posts in this topic have been moderated -1 Overrated. Mind you, I do not really care one way or the other, but I do find it interesting that they were all moderated at about the same time and were all in the same thread.
If you hate me, please tell me so.
LOL - I really shouldn't read this at work, but no one is here to hear my guffawing.
I'm going to take it that you've played Doom obsessively in the past, because one who had not would not be able to paint such a nice description of it in such a short number of words.
The space conquest game BTW is a LOT simpler than that. I don't remember the name of it specifically but it's a game that came with my distro - Mandrake 10.1 You never actually see any violence, it's a lot like Risk in a way.
But to see him shouting at the computer screen calling it "jerk" or "meanie" was rather disconcerting. When he would win, he'd dance and taunt the computer. Don't get me wrong a little celebration is certainly in order but he REALLY got into it. It got to the point that I simply had to make him stop playing it because he started displaying the same behaviour towards his siblings. That stopped within a couple days of denying access to that game.
He can still play it, but only with me or my wife, as he's not about to start calling us names when we beat the pants off him. I have to say he is really improving at strategy though.
That's a very good question. Actually, right now he does in fact have a multi-day assignment, a book report. Last night his task for that assignment was to do the research (reading). Tonight he will write 1/2 of his report, and tomorrow night finish it.
I don't know how well something like that will work once he gets into the really heavy stuff, but part of the point of growing up is that you learn to take responsibility for your own actions and duties. As time passes, I will leave more and more of the decision making to him.
I do not know of anyone who has actually sat down and planned out their parenting plan for years ahead of now. I can tell you what I am thinking about for the next month or two for him specifically, but farther than that is wishful thinking about my prognostication ability!
LOTR: ROTK
It's actually quite violent. It doesn't have blood/guts, but there sure is a lot of fighting. Of course, he probably identifies with it a lot better because he actually performs in Renaissance Faires with us too.
Of course it would work and does currently work.
We do in fact currently do this sort of thing, but the problem is the budgeting of time. If, for example, I state that he gets 5 hours per week to play video games in and am able to leave the actual budgeting of the time up to him, I fully expect that he is going to go in and play 4 hours the first day, the last hour the second day and then grumble about it for the rest of the week.
Currently, the time management we use is usually along the lines of:
"If you get your homework completed, your chores finished, and you do an extra chore of then you will get 45 minutes to play tonight, with the latest you can stay up being 9:00PM".
Given those parameters, he does pretty well under that system. However this is another of those parenting nuggets you can sometimes find, in that you can actually use it as an educational tool at the same time. Teaching good time management and budgeting is an important part of being a parent, and this is another opportunity to do that.
I could do this with a piece of paper, a spreadsheet, or whatever on my own of course, but having the energy and time to do that for each child is difficult.
You just named the highlights of my life growing up too.
My other two sons have actually had their IQ tested, one's 129, the other 156. My youngest though, he scares me, because he seems to easily be smarter than the other two.
I know I'm going to have problems motivating those three, just because of how far ahead they already are. My oldest son who is 9 and in the third grade is already at a 6th grade reading level. He is about to graduate to junior high books and I just lent him my copy of LOTR which he is just devouring.