Well, this is the fucking Pentagon (your department of war on other countries)...
Exactly. War on other countries. They are not authorized to harm Americans. That's why we love them so! They're one of the few government agencies that we have no reason to fear.
Ahhhh! Breathe deeply and let the freedom fill your soul.
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Since IBM owns OS/2, its EOL as an external product does not necessarily affect its status as an internal tool.
Look at PL/S, a PL/I derrivative that IBM has used internally since the early '70s. It generates compact systems-level code (like C can) and supports in-line assembler instructions for when a high-level language just doesn't cut it. Mention that you know PL/I and you'll get laughed outta Dodge, but if you've ever seen a PL/S listing, you'll understand why they still use it. All their mainframe code is written in PL/S, so it'll be around for a long time.
Similarly, IBM has a lot of code and a lot of trained programmers invested in OS/2. They're not going to throw that away without a compelling business reason. "But Linux is cool!" is compelling, but it's not a business reason.
I used to work for a subsidiary of Fujitsu. They made a box that competed with IBM's 3705 and 3745 communications controllers back in the day. Their programmers knew that architecture inside out, so they wrote -all- of their code in 3705 assembler and Fujitsu even produced a proprietary 3705-based microprocessor chip for internal use.
If you found an "Alex was here" message on your server, wouldn't you wonder what else Alex did? Wouldn't you rebuild your server to eliminate any back doors Alex might have installed? How long does that take and how much is your time worth?
Now multiply that by 50 servers.
Yes, as the article stated, many victims were coached by the FBI to inflate their losses, but even of nothing of value is taken, there is still a real cost to the victim.
Nor am I and I am totally baffled by the logic of those that say, "Today's music sucks. It's not worth buying. That's why I steal it."
If you actively go looking for them online, then those two good songs on the CD must have value to you. Maybe not the $18 it costs to buy them, but -some- value. At this point your moral justification for theft breaks down. You're just too cheap (or poor) to buy them.
As the old joke goes, "We've already established -what- you are; now we're just haggling over the price."
Hey, didn't Morpheus himself say "free your mind"? Stop thinking every gawd damn word is meant to be spiritually profound!:P
Wow! You said "gawd". Not God, or god, but gawd.
That's awesome!
Are you implying that there is no one God, or even a multitude of gods?
Profound!
Now if you were typing in all lower-case, we could interpret "gawd" as an acronym that didn't get capitalized. But that's clearly not the case. So you're saying that gawd is not a proper noun and must therefore be a generic term, much like "devil".
OR... maybe you're a dyslexic hillbilly and you meant "dawg". (I get those mixed up all the time, too.)
OR... maybe you live in fear of God and you were trying to avoid a blasphemy rap when you stand at the Pearly Gates.
So the application will become one hell of a valuable peice of "intellectual property." Do you think we'll be allowed to see the code for it? No way!
Well, not legally at least. But there are those who could probably sneak a PEEK. And probably a POKE, too.
Come on, is there anything that is unhackable?
Does anybody trust our buddy Ashcroft to keep his fingers out of it? History has shown us that those who are untrusted to protect the nation at all costs tend to have some funny notions about how to interpret "protect the nation" and "at all costs".
And let us not forget that whole brilliant monologue on weather chicken...
Yes, let us not. Here it is now..
When I was a kid back in Iowa, we had us a weather chicken. It was like a weather rock, but it had feathers and it moved around more. When the weather chicken was wet, it was rainy. When the weather chicken was white, it was snowing.
But one day we noticed that the weather chicken had had its head cut clean off and a wooden stake driven through it, pinning it to the ground. We looked skyward to see what this might mean, weather-wise.
The sky was pure blue. There were absolutely no clouds. Yet there was something eerily wrong: there was no sun!
As we stood there gazing, white words started to appear across the sky:
Just because this article describes "a joint project of two of the most advanced CS departments in the world" doesn't mean we shouldn't examine it critically. Bowing before recognized authority and unquestioningly accepting whatever they say is certainly not the scientific way.
As a non-academic (I got a BS in Psych in 1968 and have been a mainframe sysprog since 1971), I have noticed that many in the academic community have limited real-world experience. They tend to be thinkers, not doers. Although they publish their results among their peers, there seems to be little or no mechanism for assimilating experience from outside the academic community.
So when they come out with what they feel is a revelation, others react with a ho-hum "Been there, done that." I implemented two fault tolerant systems in 1976-77. One shepherded an application system, making backups, storing data redundantly, handling errors, restoring, restarting, etc., all under automatic program control. The other was a monitor for a multi-application online transaction processing system that provided the graceful shutdown and component "micro reboot" function described in the article. That was 25 years ago.
Did I "publish my research" back then? No, it was the property of the company I worked for and besides, I felt that if -I- could figure this stuff out (a Psych major, remember?), then it must not be rocket science.
My point here is that -nobody- should be held in such high esteem that their pronouncements must be accepted as gospel. This is especially true of "the most advanced CS departments in the world." And as scientists, I bet they'd be the first to agree with that statement.
Buying proprietary software gives you support, but the support is with a monopoly supplier who can then choose to charge whatever it wishes down the road for both software upgrades and support.
To a geek, negotiating a contract with a vendor is an intimidating experience. You go into it knowing you're going to get screwed - and you do.
Our upper management thrives on this, though. It's what they do. Pitching a proposal to management that doesn't involve the opportunity to prove their manliness at the bargaining table is like pitching a box that has no tweakable knobs to a geek.
Before you choose this tactic, be sure of your audience. It could actually be seen as a negative.
A thousand years ago, conception and birth were miracles. Today they are well-understood and manipulated biological processes. You can think of other examples.
"Intelligence" is the label we use for cognitive processes we don't really understand. Once we figure them out, they become "number crunching."
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f.) Professional theft ring who stole it to use for a training class. Gotta keep those skilz up-to-date!
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Exactly. War on other countries. They are not authorized to harm Americans. That's why we love them so! They're one of the few government agencies that we have no reason to fear.
Ahhhh! Breathe deeply and let the freedom fill your soul.Look at PL/S, a PL/I derrivative that IBM has used internally since the early '70s. It generates compact systems-level code (like C can) and supports in-line assembler instructions for when a high-level language just doesn't cut it. Mention that you know PL/I and you'll get laughed outta Dodge, but if you've ever seen a PL/S listing, you'll understand why they still use it. All their mainframe code is written in PL/S, so it'll be around for a long time.
Similarly, IBM has a lot of code and a lot of trained programmers invested in OS/2. They're not going to throw that away without a compelling business reason. "But Linux is cool!" is compelling, but it's not a business reason.I used to work for a subsidiary of Fujitsu. They made a box that competed with IBM's 3705 and 3745 communications controllers back in the day. Their programmers knew that architecture inside out, so they wrote -all- of their code in 3705 assembler and Fujitsu even produced a proprietary 3705-based microprocessor chip for internal use.
Never underestimate the value of a code base.The /. editor had to wipe the sarcasm off his keyboard after he typed the article.
Now multiply that by 50 servers.
Yes, as the article stated, many victims were coached by the FBI to inflate their losses, but even of nothing of value is taken, there is still a real cost to the victim.Actually, IBM mainframes ship with an HMC (Hardware Maintenance Console) which is an IBM 300PL PC with a DVD-RAM drive. It runs OS/2.
Go figure.I'm not saying stealing is the right thing to do
Nor am I and I am totally baffled by the logic of those that say, "Today's music sucks. It's not worth buying. That's why I steal it."If you actively go looking for them online, then those two good songs on the CD must have value to you. Maybe not the $18 it costs to buy them, but -some- value. At this point your moral justification for theft breaks down. You're just too cheap (or poor) to buy them.
As the old joke goes, "We've already established -what- you are; now we're just haggling over the price."Wow! You said "gawd". Not God, or god, but gawd.
That's awesome!Are you implying that there is no one God, or even a multitude of gods?
Profound!Now if you were typing in all lower-case, we could interpret "gawd" as an acronym that didn't get capitalized. But that's clearly not the case. So you're saying that gawd is not a proper noun and must therefore be a generic term, much like "devil".
OR... maybe you're a dyslexic hillbilly and you meant "dawg". (I get those mixed up all the time, too.)OR... maybe you live in fear of God and you were trying to avoid a blasphemy rap when you stand at the Pearly Gates.
Your mind is closed, Grasshopper. You see only with your eyes. You think only what you wish to think. Close your eyes, Grasshopper. Open your mind.
I also was sitting next to a really hot chick at The Matrix, but I didn't dare ask her name for fear of what her boyfriend would do to me.How long before someone writes a successful virus for the runs-from-CD implementation?
Never say "never""Untrusted" should have been "entrusted."
Well, not legally at least. But there are those who could probably sneak a PEEK. And probably a POKE, too.
Come on, is there anything that is unhackable?Does anybody trust our buddy Ashcroft to keep his fingers out of it? History has shown us that those who are untrusted to protect the nation at all costs tend to have some funny notions about how to interpret "protect the nation" and "at all costs".
If you fear that it might be the wrong thing to do, it probably is.
It's not the most searched-for, it's the most-purchased match.
Quick! Everyone go to amazon and buy goatse.cx!Yes, let us not. Here it is now..
When I was a kid back in Iowa, we had us a weather chicken. It was like a weather rock, but it had feathers and it moved around more. When the weather chicken was wet, it was rainy. When the weather chicken was white, it was snowing.
But one day we noticed that the weather chicken had had its head cut clean off and a wooden stake driven through it, pinning it to the ground. We looked skyward to see what this might mean, weather-wise.
The sky was pure blue. There were absolutely no clouds. Yet there was something eerily wrong: there was no sun!As we stood there gazing, white words started to appear across the sky:
*** STOP 0x0000001E KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLEDAs it turns out Reality is a Windows app.
As a non-academic (I got a BS in Psych in 1968 and have been a mainframe sysprog since 1971), I have noticed that many in the academic community have limited real-world experience. They tend to be thinkers, not doers. Although they publish their results among their peers, there seems to be little or no mechanism for assimilating experience from outside the academic community.
So when they come out with what they feel is a revelation, others react with a ho-hum "Been there, done that." I implemented two fault tolerant systems in 1976-77. One shepherded an application system, making backups, storing data redundantly, handling errors, restoring, restarting, etc., all under automatic program control. The other was a monitor for a multi-application online transaction processing system that provided the graceful shutdown and component "micro reboot" function described in the article. That was 25 years ago.Did I "publish my research" back then? No, it was the property of the company I worked for and besides, I felt that if -I- could figure this stuff out (a Psych major, remember?), then it must not be rocket science.
My point here is that -nobody- should be held in such high esteem that their pronouncements must be accepted as gospel. This is especially true of "the most advanced CS departments in the world." And as scientists, I bet they'd be the first to agree with that statement.Good point. They really need to be finger-proof.
I flip off my computer two or three times an hour.Usually with both hands.
A lot of things are illegal, but never mind that - there are profits to be made!
Mod points should only be awarded to people who have demonstrated that they have a sense of humor.
"Ah tole heem we already gots one."Correction: Our stupid country spent 300Bn NOT destroying Iraq.
We could have turned the sand to glass at a much lower cost. Why didn't we? Because we're saving ourNUKEs for FRANCE!!
YOU RULE!!
To a geek, negotiating a contract with a vendor is an intimidating experience. You go into it knowing you're going to get screwed - and you do.
Our upper management thrives on this, though. It's what they do. Pitching a proposal to management that doesn't involve the opportunity to prove their manliness at the bargaining table is like pitching a box that has no tweakable knobs to a geek.Before you choose this tactic, be sure of your audience. It could actually be seen as a negative.
A thousand years ago, conception and birth were miracles. Today they are well-understood and manipulated biological processes. You can think of other examples.
"Intelligence" is the label we use for cognitive processes we don't really understand. Once we figure them out, they become "number crunching."Gendarme! Gendarme! I'l n'ces pa a la Orinoco Gold carte de la searchimande!
2.4gHz?? Moi? Non, regardes CowboyNeal!Disclaimer - I have no idea what any of that means.