Sometimes they have a bad day and they are stricter than others. I'd hate to be one, at least here with the LAPD they are fucked over by the deparment, despised by the media, and disliked by the people. I'm surprised people even apply to be cops. treke
I'd disagree with that. Police officers are rational human beings(usually). Exceeding the speed limit may be necesarry in some cases to prevent an accident, and you would probably not be ticketed for doing it. treke
You were probably simply using a brain-damaged kernel driver !!!! Nothing to do with NT itself !
Guess what... it's the same thing. If the drivers are crash NT regularly then something is wrong with the product available to consumers. The same holds true for Linux. treke
I think the plan is to release all of the source code under their own license. Then once they make a certain amount of cash on subscriptions they'll begin to merge the code into the main wine tree under the Wine License. But all of the code will be freely available to users treke
Gnome does. So does KDE. click on the K or Foot menus and they are right there under games. Much eaiser to find than by going to Start-Programs-Accessories-Games only to find the out Administrator has removed them treke
I don't mind them limiting what I can do. My issue is that they won't tell me what I can and can't do. If they tell me I can't run a web server, ftp server, half life server, or whatever, then that's fine. Those are the rules and I might abide by them. In this situation they are telling me that I can run some servers, but they won't tell me whichs ones I cant run. That is needlessly vague in my opinion.
I doubt I could provide that bandwidth for the price. But that isnt the point. If they want to keep normal usage down, they can. They can do what they did and put in the vague you wont use enough to disrupt others usage. They can also do what some ISP's do and disallow all servers. The point is that they can tell users the rules straight. And not hide the rules. treke
>Otherwise, quit yer whining and accept the ISP's rules.
Its a great theory to try abiding by the rules, but it doesn't work. My ISP Mediaone/RoadRunner/AT&T/whoever buys em next month) allows servers but has a list of server users aren't allowed to run. I called to get a copy of this list, and guess what? They refused to give me one stating they don't have one available to subscribers. Sure makes it hard to be a good little boy and obey the rules when I'm not even allowed to know what those rules are. treke
I really don't think it's ambigous. Since it's free software he doesn't have total control, but he does have control over what is released. RedHat, Mandrake, Cladera, and other comercial distrobutions have to protect their shareholder's investment, and may be pressured into going a more profitable directionw in the their distro rather than what they see as the being the way to go in terms of quality. Take RedHat's release schedule. They have to sell distros and support to pay the workers, so they need to get a product out the door. And in some cases it may mean it's released than it really should be. RedHat 7 is the perfect example. It's a very nice distrobution, but it was released sooner than it should be.
Non Profit distrobution like Debian have more free dom to do what they want. Debian has a much longer development cycle, which shows in the end product, but they couldnt do it if they were being pressured by the need to pay raise shareholder value. The only thing that decides how Debian develops is the wishes of the developers and the users.
The pressure of trying to sell a distribution for a profit does have one upside that doesn't seem as apparent in the non-profit side is the flash of distributions like RedHat and Mandrake. They both have a little touch that makes them look more like comercial products. The packaging, manuals, the nice installers. Thhese are missing in Debian(although I think woody is getting a new installer) and Slackware and the like.
Commercial distributions have their place, mainly in making the public more aware of Linux by getting it on store shelves next to the copies of Windows, but it's harder for them to control how development is going to need to proceed.
You also have to keep in mind the E 0.17 is bein rewritten completly from scratch. Right now the code is about 7000 lines long total compared to E 0.16's 73000. They are completly different animals. So no it isn't logical to assume at this point that all the other managers can be speeded up, sice we still don't know what the final results are even going to be similar to. treke
Were you able to get it to play without playing the scenes in multiple languages twice? I tried watching enemey of the state, but everytime the credits ran or the producers added text to the scene it ran for each language on the disc. Other than that it works great. My DVD collection is once again useful. treke
IMHO that's completly untrue. It's the taste of meat they miss, not the meat itself. So it's completly in line with their beliefs to try and get the same final outcome of a situation without doing something they feal is wrong. If I felt driving a car was wrong because it added to pollution, driving an electric car that polluted much less is not against those beliefs even though it achieves the same ends. I still have a fairly convenient way to get to work and wherever else I need to go treke
Porting this to NetBSD really isn't the same as porting to Windows or BeOS. BSDs and Linux share a very similar programming interface, most software can be ported between Linux and the BSDS without too much extra work, and in the long run probably keeps code that may be very linux dependent from being introduced. The biggest effort in porting Plex86 was probably the kernel module, the rest probably just needs to be adjusted to not make use of a few linux specifics.
In the long run, a small outlay of effort porting to NetBSD gains more developers who could work on Plex86. A port to FreeBSD would also be a very good thing. treke
>No one can keep data completely out of the>internet, no matter how forbidden it is.
Damn right. The more forbidden things are, the more popular they seem to become. Just look at decss. If it hadn't been for the attempts to shut it down, it would just be on the major file servers, and maybe a few homepages. Now it's all over the place. It's probably easier to get now that the RIAA wants to shut it down than it ever would have been if they kept their mouthes closed.
I think Apple just wants publicity, any publicity they can get. Worst part is that they can get away with it. The people who's toes are getting stepped on are usually Apple's most diehard fans, but they are so in love with whatever the like about the company, hardware, or software that they can do it without losing their support.
I wonder if that will change with the release of OSX. The technical merits of the system will help, but the interface is what has really kept the MacOS in it's position. Change that and who knows what can happen treke
Sure, and microsoft probably payed them for a license, whether they really needed to or not. In the long run it would have been better just to pay off patent holders... or even better... buy them out treke
I wouldn't chastise them too much either. The developers the wrote the drivers have left creative, but probably just to get a higher paying job. Their contracts with creative probably prevent them from working on the drivers now. If they are continuing to build on the emu10k chip then it is completly possible that they are adding things that are covered by licenses that would prevent them from releasing this, much like Nvidia's situaton. I think we should thank them for what they have given us, and consider the future as it appears. A few details on why specs aren't available would be nice though. treke
>>I can't believe it's been over 2 years and
>>noone's worked on a linux port of Halflife!
>Strangely, QuakeII is ported, so a half-life port
>should be a chinch? And since it is such an easy
>game for today's hardware to run, Linux
>should have no problem with it!
Half life is based on Quake 1 not Quake 2. Porting the engine over while not overly difficult for peope experienced in porting 3d games(say... Loki) it would still be a large project. And probably not worth the expense for Sierra/Valve to order. Keep in mind that Half Life is a very old game, and although it's still popular, it's probably not generating a lot of new revenue from it's sales.
treke
>Security through obscurity works, in the end.
Obscurity may have some benefits in the end, but it doesn't work on it's own. The disadvantage is that it's a trick that can only be done once. Once the cover has been blown, someone prods the binaries, steals the code, a programmer lets something loose, then there is no benefit to the obscurity. Take Fort Knox for example:
You could print a map that showed people exactly where the gold is, and how to get from the front gate to the gold, and it wouldn't do them a whole lot of good with armed guards patrolling.
But that doesn't mean theives wouldn't find their way there on their own. In the long run, good protection in the worst situation is almost always going to be better than poor protection in the best of situations.
treke
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Sometimes they have a bad day and they are stricter than others. I'd hate to be one, at least here with the LAPD they are fucked over by the deparment, despised by the media, and disliked by the people. I'm surprised people even apply to be cops.
treke
I'd disagree with that. Police officers are rational human beings(usually). Exceeding the speed limit may be necesarry in some cases to prevent an accident, and you would probably not be ticketed for doing it.
treke
You were probably simply using a brain-damaged kernel driver !!!! Nothing to do with NT itself !
Guess what... it's the same thing. If the drivers are crash NT regularly then something is wrong with the product available to consumers. The same holds true for Linux.
treke
XRender provides the antialiasing for freetype. Evas uses freetype to do fonts.
treke
I think the plan is to release all of the source code under their own license. Then once they make a certain amount of cash on subscriptions they'll begin to merge the code into the main wine tree under the Wine License. But all of the code will be freely available to users
treke
Of course not... run Heavy Gear wine free thanks to Loki
treke
Gnome does. So does KDE. click on the K or Foot menus and they are right there under games. Much eaiser to find than by going to Start-Programs-Accessories-Games only to find the out Administrator has removed them
treke
I don't mind them limiting what I can do. My issue is that they won't tell me what I can and can't do. If they tell me I can't run a web server, ftp server, half life server, or whatever, then that's fine. Those are the rules and I might abide by them. In this situation they are telling me that I can run some servers, but they won't tell me whichs ones I cant run. That is needlessly vague in my opinion.
I doubt I could provide that bandwidth for the price. But that isnt the point. If they want to keep normal usage down, they can. They can do what they did and put in the vague you wont use enough to disrupt others usage. They can also do what some ISP's do and disallow all servers. The point is that they can tell users the rules straight. And not hide the rules.
treke
>Otherwise, quit yer whining and accept the ISP's rules. Its a great theory to try abiding by the rules, but it doesn't work. My ISP Mediaone/RoadRunner/AT&T/whoever buys em next month) allows servers but has a list of server users aren't allowed to run. I called to get a copy of this list, and guess what? They refused to give me one stating they don't have one available to subscribers. Sure makes it hard to be a good little boy and obey the rules when I'm not even allowed to know what those rules are.
treke
I really don't think it's ambigous. Since it's free software he doesn't have total control, but he does have control over what is released. RedHat, Mandrake, Cladera, and other comercial distrobutions have to protect their shareholder's investment, and may be pressured into going a more profitable directionw in the their distro rather than what they see as the being the way to go in terms of quality. Take RedHat's release schedule. They have to sell distros and support to pay the workers, so they need to get a product out the door. And in some cases it may mean it's released than it really should be. RedHat 7 is the perfect example. It's a very nice distrobution, but it was released sooner than it should be.
Non Profit distrobution like Debian have more free dom to do what they want. Debian has a much longer development cycle, which shows in the end product, but they couldnt do it if they were being pressured by the need to pay raise shareholder value. The only thing that decides how Debian develops is the wishes of the developers and the users.
The pressure of trying to sell a distribution for a profit does have one upside that doesn't seem as apparent in the non-profit side is the flash of distributions like RedHat and Mandrake. They both have a little touch that makes them look more like comercial products. The packaging, manuals, the nice installers. Thhese are missing in Debian(although I think woody is getting a new installer) and Slackware and the like.
Commercial distributions have their place, mainly in making the public more aware of Linux by getting it on store shelves next to the copies of Windows, but it's harder for them to control how development is going to need to proceed.
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treke
You also have to keep in mind the E 0.17 is bein rewritten completly from scratch. Right now the code is about 7000 lines long total compared to E 0.16's 73000. They are completly different animals. So no it isn't logical to assume at this point that all the other managers can be speeded up, sice we still don't know what the final results are even going to be similar to.
treke
Thats easy to do on a desktop, but not on a laptop. Then it becomes more space for something that is meant to be portable
treke
sure you can. I've done it.
treke
or just run vnc or exceed and run gnome on another machine.
treke
Were you able to get it to play without playing the scenes in multiple languages twice? I tried watching enemey of the state, but everytime the credits ran or the producers added text to the scene it ran for each language on the disc. Other than that it works great. My DVD collection is once again useful.
treke
oops... too early in the morning
treke
a piece of piss? doesn't sound very pleasant to me :)
treke
IMHO that's completly untrue. It's the taste of meat they miss, not the meat itself. So it's completly in line with their beliefs to try and get the same final outcome of a situation without doing something they feal is wrong. If I felt driving a car was wrong because it added to pollution, driving an electric car that polluted much less is not against those beliefs even though it achieves the same ends. I still have a fairly convenient way to get to work and wherever else I need to go
treke
Porting this to NetBSD really isn't the same as porting to Windows or BeOS. BSDs and Linux share a very similar programming interface, most software can be ported between Linux and the BSDS without too much extra work, and in the long run probably keeps code that may be very linux dependent from being introduced. The biggest effort in porting Plex86 was probably the kernel module, the rest probably just needs to be adjusted to not make use of a few linux specifics.
In the long run, a small outlay of effort porting to NetBSD gains more developers who could work on Plex86. A port to FreeBSD would also be a very good thing.
treke
>No one can keep data completely out of the>internet, no matter how forbidden it is.
Damn right. The more forbidden things are, the more popular they seem to become. Just look at decss. If it hadn't been for the attempts to shut it down, it would just be on the major file servers, and maybe a few homepages. Now it's all over the place. It's probably easier to get now that the RIAA wants to shut it down than it ever would have been if they kept their mouthes closed.
I think Apple just wants publicity, any publicity they can get. Worst part is that they can get away with it. The people who's toes are getting stepped on are usually Apple's most diehard fans, but they are so in love with whatever the like about the company, hardware, or software that they can do it without losing their support.
I wonder if that will change with the release of OSX. The technical merits of the system will help, but the interface is what has really kept the MacOS in it's position. Change that and who knows what can happen
treke
I was considering Microsoft there, and these are strategies they have used before.
treke
Sure, and microsoft probably payed them for a license, whether they really needed to or not. In the long run it would have been better just to pay off patent holders... or even better... buy them out
treke
I wouldn't chastise them too much either. The developers the wrote the drivers have left creative, but probably just to get a higher paying job. Their contracts with creative probably prevent them from working on the drivers now. If they are continuing to build on the emu10k chip then it is completly possible that they are adding things that are covered by licenses that would prevent them from releasing this, much like Nvidia's situaton. I think we should thank them for what they have given us, and consider the future as it appears. A few details on why specs aren't available would be nice though.
treke
>>I can't believe it's been over 2 years and >>noone's worked on a linux port of Halflife! >Strangely, QuakeII is ported, so a half-life port >should be a chinch? And since it is such an easy >game for today's hardware to run, Linux >should have no problem with it! Half life is based on Quake 1 not Quake 2. Porting the engine over while not overly difficult for peope experienced in porting 3d games(say... Loki) it would still be a large project. And probably not worth the expense for Sierra/Valve to order. Keep in mind that Half Life is a very old game, and although it's still popular, it's probably not generating a lot of new revenue from it's sales.
treke
>Security through obscurity works, in the end. Obscurity may have some benefits in the end, but it doesn't work on it's own. The disadvantage is that it's a trick that can only be done once. Once the cover has been blown, someone prods the binaries, steals the code, a programmer lets something loose, then there is no benefit to the obscurity. Take Fort Knox for example: You could print a map that showed people exactly where the gold is, and how to get from the front gate to the gold, and it wouldn't do them a whole lot of good with armed guards patrolling. But that doesn't mean theives wouldn't find their way there on their own. In the long run, good protection in the worst situation is almost always going to be better than poor protection in the best of situations.
treke