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Linux 2.2.18 Released
If you haven't heard yet, another version of the Linux kernel has hit the mirrors. This is the first release to the 2.2 tree in quite some time, so it's probably worth updating on those machines which can afford a reboot. There's a whole bunch of changes, most notably the backport of USB code from the 2.4 tree, so all those neat-o USB devices you get over the holiday season won't be gathering dust.
I yearn for her, her warm supple body pressed up against my fierce British soul.
She dances barefoot through my hair, breathing the spirit of life into the once proud trenchant bones that support my austere form.
I call out to her, oh Haddasah, make me a man once more, Thorne King once again. Away from it all, resenting nothing, feeling wonder, pealing brilliance.
Complete me, ester of pearl, ester of rosin. One with all and none without you. Resplendent and replete, I await.
With the USB backport and all, this sounds excellent to those of us trying out Linux on their I-Macs. I was wondering if anyone with experience buiding these things would be so kind as to either submit instructions on the configure portion, or a config file for this kernel to imaclinus.net, or as a comment below, for those of us who have been relying on prebuilt kernels to power our Linux systems. I've wanted to tinker with it for a while, but I know much less about this platform than I do the intel, and don't want to include lots of cruft, or leave out anything important. A distillation of the procedure would evenbe nice.
TIA- AC
Wow, you're really slipping.
10 minutes and no biters.
I guess even masterful trolls have bad days.
Seriously, that's about as good as you can get on a kernel release article.
Agreed.
KtB has been very off-form today.
What's the matter KtB? Dreaming of your Slashdot lover Perdida?
Solaris has had logging since Sol 7, you can use it on all filesystems, and all you need is "logging" in options in the vfstab or "mount -o logging /filesystem /mountpoint"
Reiserfs is faster though, file creation and deletion several orders of magnitude so. As benchmarked with bonnie on identical hardware, in my test lab.
Agreed, I have my servers chugging on the compile now..... Thank you for a canadian mirror :)
Hey, that's better than ftp.cs.helsinki.fi!
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The USB-scanner driver in the kernel may recognize its device-class ID, but the Umax USB and parallel scanners use a totally different protocol than their SCSI scanners - so AFAIK, you still can't use their USB scanners with SANE, because no one's been able to reverse-engineer the protocol.
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Bitch, bitch, bitch. Is that ALL you can do, bitch and whine because YOU aren't getting what YOU want fast enough? I don't see you paying for Linus', Alan's, Don Becker's, H. Peter Anvin's, or any of the other major kernel contributors' time spent developing the Linux kernel. So, until you start paying them to do what they do, they don't owe you jack.
Be happy for what you do get - it's a gift, not an entitlement...
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Sam: "That was needlessly cryptic."
Max: "I'd be peeing my pants if I wore any!"
I'm pretty sure that Linus doesn't touch the 2.2.x kernel anymore. In fact, I believe that as soon as 2.2.0 was released, he handed it over to Alan Cox and then Linux moved on exclusively to 2.3.
er.. Of course I mean "Linus moved on to 2.3" It's hard to type "Linus" my fingers just seem to jump to the "x" automatically
Even better, try this:
/usr/src
/usr/src/linux-2.2.14.tar.bz2
/usr/src directory (that are of a newer version than your current linux tree).
cd
tar Ixfv
./linux/scripts/patch-kernel
That patch-kernel script is pretty handy, being able to add patches automatically without you even needing to decompress them. That one command will unpack and install all incremental patches it finds in the
Try it, you might like it!
The cover of the June or July 1997 Byte magazine is for NT5. I have a copy of it around here somewhere...
I installed Slackware on my system in 1995, Microsoft surely knew about the OS by then... and honestly the most damage Linux could do to MS is level the VAR playing field. If the market determined that Linux were superior to NT and Win9x/ME, Microsoft would jump all over it.
With their existing customer base, if they were to start selling Linux servers and the like, they would probably be the strongest Linux VAR out there.
Don't underestimate the shrewdness of that company... they're in it for the money. If Open source became more profitable than closed source, they would become a huge contributor... there would probably be some great photo ops of Torvalds, Cox and Gates shaking hands as they make announcements that hardware developers everywhere would be targeting the platform.
For the moment, they have competitive products.
Just feeding the trolls...
Is there any optimization for the K7 core? :-)
I know the PIII is better for Seti@Home, but
I can get an Athlon for less.
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It depends on a backport of 2.4 code that will likely not happen.
Yes, it completely messed up the the dos partition and I couldn't fsck it. I put ext2 instead.
Did you try transferring large amount of data, say copying a bunch of mp3s to your zip drive? I can reproduce the problem instantly by doing an rsync of a bunch of mp3s.
The answer is no. I tested it out, the machine simply locks up hard and I have to power cycle it. 2.4 test12 works like a charm though. Till 2.4 test11 large transfers used to lock up the drive (though the machine was fine), the zip drive light would keep glowing and any processes accessing the device will hang (even kill -9 won't help). But test12, wow, no problems at all :-).
Catch ya later!
well, shit.
/var/log/kern.log*
root!spindle:~# uname -r
2.2.16
root!spindle:~# uptime
9:16am up 186 days, 7 min, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.10, 0.09
root!spindle:~# grep free_page
/var/log/kern.log.0:Dec 5 10:28:40 spindle kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kupdate...
such a pity to waste an uptime like that.
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well, I'm stuck in the fenced in pseudo-prison ghetto of Hinton James which sure as hell feels like it's about ten miles from campus, but just to let you know Metalab isn't located in Phillips but in Manning. Phillips is where the comp sci dept really got started here, but according to http://www.ibiblio.org/wdg/ "
Our base of operations is out of wonderful, window-ful 213 Manning Hall, on the UNC-Chapel Hill campus."
Erik
And something else that will keep RH and Debian people happy (well, mostly RH because of the 7.0 GCC problem):
2.2.18pre12
o Automatically select older compilers for kernel builds on Debian and RH - (Arjan van de Ven)
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Via these links (assuming you have mojonation installed w/ the mojo proxy):
linux kernel source 2.2.18 (tar.bz2) [mojo id 68AieSMlQkDNSi3vaFUpwB9sbIk]
One of the many 2.4 backports that 2.2.18 contains (since somewhere in the -pre series...around 11, I think) is the DRM (direct rendering manager, the part of the kernel that controls access to the hardware through DRI, the direct rendering infratstructure). Anyway, unfortunately, it's not very useful because it only supports DRI v2, and the current XFree86 code uses v1. Until the XFree86 code is upgraded, 3d acceleration under XFree86 4 still won't work. Ah well. At least the codebase is there.
> Linux is better than M$ because it is released when the code is mature, not when it is marketable. The best part about Linux is that if you don't think development is moving fast enough, all you have to do is stop trolling on /., pop up an Xterm, cd to /usr/src/linux, and speed up the development process yourself.
/., FTP over to kernel.org, download a not-quite-ready 2.4 kernel, install it, use it, and pretend the truly ready 2.4 release is a service pack to be applied whenever it comes out.
Or, if you perfer of MS's "ready or not, here it comes" strategy, you can stop trolling on
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Or just use this: /usr/src
/usr/src
/usr/src that is) goes automagically!
Place the Linux-patches in
# cd
# linux/scripts/patch-kernel
And the patching up to the latest release (that you have in
You need to get the stock kernel to run it right. 2.2.18 will make a good update for many because: it's a stock kernel, and all of these back ported features will elieviate the need for umpteen gillion patches.
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Try Debian. Its the distro that finally got me off the monthly distro cycle. apt-get does that for me.
It sounds to me like you don't want a stable 2.4, you just want a 2.4. If you wanted a stable 2.4 you would be willing to wait.
The Information Revolution will be fought on the command line.
Na, you _should_ use the reiserfs, because if nobody uses it, it will never be properly debugged. And that you shouldnt use reiserfs in a production environment is just a rule of thumb: in a production environment you should _always_ do proper testing an you should also know what you are doing.
I`ve been using reiserfs in production for a long time without trouble, but you have to keep in mind that my servers are usually not running under heavy load. No problem. You also have to know that you shouldnt use software-raid5 at the moment and that you prolly should avoid using tar for backups.
Make shure you know what you`re doing. Read the docs and the mailing list and then go for it. Reiserfs is cool. Its somewhat fast, and its very reliable. And dont ever stick to rules of thumb too closely. Proper testing helps a lot, too!
Works for me: External ZIP100 USB. Don't know about corruption problems since I haven't tested it extensively.
-- PsyBorg
Obscure commands won't be known by John Doe researcher who grabbed the Debian box by accident at the bookstore.
Everything cannot be Debian, either for physical (vendor shipped RedHat Linux varient), emotional ("I Love my HP Pascal machine"), or mental reasons ("golly, this essential protein folding software only runs on Digital Unix 4.0A"). Not to mention political reasons, historical reasons, Debian machines that can't be upgraded due to some weird crappy complex thing someone wrote eons ago and has been running in a closet and everyone is scared to touch the macine because it basically works god knows how...
There are often delays between a vulnerability becoming known and the new package coming out, which leaves open univerity networks ripe for scanning, assuming everyone has automated updates installed and running properly. Believe me, I see a lot of linear port scans looking for ftp/rpc/SGI/whatever hacks go by daily...
And a fancy update system won't help you if, after installing Apache-latest with PHP-latest that some goober goes off and writes an insecure database interface to, say, your medical records (damn, damn, damn...). That's where prgrammer education comes in, from kernel assembly hackers to people playing with cute little Java Beans in a cliky IDE.
There are many problems with applying updates in a timely fashion, some of which include:
1) Sparsity of trained system administers who know how to properly secure a system and are paid to spend time tending to such problems. John Doe researcher who grabs RedHat Linux off the shelf in the University Book Store and installs it won't know / won't have the time to do this.
2) General insecurity of most unix distributions out of the box (hey look-- a car with keys in the ignition!), which leads to huge patch lists (e.g. Solaris, RedHat Linux) which need to be installed. Who installs the patches? See 1, above.
3) Custom hardware/software that requires a particular configuration or setup that makes upgrades hard or even impossible. A firewall in front of the problem machine might help, unless the particular design is on a webpage, in which case someone has to sort through reams of ancient code for security problems, hoping they don't screw up the current bailing-wire and duct-tape mess.
Solutions to the problem include more secure Operating System design, e.g. shipping with fewer open ports, keeping daemons up-to-date, auditing the code (e.g. OpenBSD), and programmer education to be aware of security issues and write code accordingly.
Also, automated update systems would be nice, but these generally don't come installed, or do and don't fit into the custom configurations the department might be doing with their unix machine.
I just got the 2.2.18 kernel - quite nice. The Win4Lin kernel patches for 2.2.17 apply just fine, and apparently my USB scanner (UMAX Astra 1220U) is supported by the USB drivers.
However, apparently the sane backend doesn't support the scanner. Does anyone have any tips/ideas/etc. on getting the Astra 1220U working?
I think it is a great benefit for developers and users, that there only exist one source tree.
If harddisk capacity is so scarse, that you have to delete the source tree, then make temporary room by deleting eg. some savegames. Reinstall the source tree from your linux distro, download the patch, apply the patch, recompile kernel, and then delete the source tree again.
The kernel patches are usually rather small (around 100-500k's). The latest 2.2.18 is around 2.4mb though, it must be the backporting of the USB-stuff, that makes it so comparetivly large.
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siri
My condolences. And thanks for the info! Turns out Manning is even closer to me than Phillips ... I didn't bother trying to look it up =)
"Oh, I hope he doesn't give us halyatchkies," said Heinrich.
hmmm.... obviously the kernel has achived sentience and is hacking it's own code. Expect a whole bunch of kernel additions which improve the lot of the computer rather than the developer or user.
And now its happened. There was a time when people who used Linux came up against brick walls AND THEN CLIMBED OVER THEM. The Quickcam for example. Great device, but no Linux drivers. so they wrote them.
Unfortunately everyone sees Linux as this great, magical, free thing which popped up from nowhere and everyone can have it, plus they get to tell the people that gave them this free thing to bloody well hurry up and make it work for them, just so they can go off and tell their mates how crap Windows etc. is and look what I've got, and oh yeah I didn't pay a penny! Ha!
You're right. It's a short patch, so I thought, no harm. I was tickled that that patch was deemed "lame" by slashcode :)
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Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
From what you write, I asume you're a home user.
You should remember that many of us run Linux as server in mission critical services. We don't need no GUI or even USB support.
Nice from the kernel folks that they provide this backport.You should just stop lamenting, after all you have the complete source tree...
Michael
Good god, retch-o-licious. I think I need to hurl...
PS> This is sad that I have to include this disclaimer, but note that this is NOT an anti-OSS posting, NOT and anti-Linux posting, but a posting against people who get sentimental and blubbery over software.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
2.4 is no longer cutting-edge technology, it's getting old by many standards. All of the BSDs have developed wonderful USB stacks and driver support over time, and all of these "shiny new" features of 2.4 are starting to get old. So, it's overdue for release (a year overdue!): it's time to stabilize it and then get more cutting-edge things to keep up with the Joneses :)
-bugg
2.4 is long overdue, Linus was first hoping for fall of 1999, and now here we are: almost in 2001. Now I don't mean to be mean, but if perhaps a bit more time was spent working forward than unnecessairly backwards, we'd all be a lot better off.
If you want to get into 2.4, then you'll need to convince people to switch- and backporting every feature in 2.4 to 2.2 is not the way to do that. I think that if we're not at the point already where we can just through 2.2 into occasional maitenence, then something is wrong. It's akin to backporting SMP support to 0.99 before it even made it into 2.0.
-bugg
An sb live value is only about $45
One thing I noticed right away with 2.2.18 is with the emu10k1 driver the tone controls are disabled. This is annoying, the tone controls work fine, at least for me, maybe others have problems. Anyway, in the linux/drivers/sound/emu10k1 dir, edit the main.c and mixer.c and add a #define TONE_CONTROL 1.
I hope this is fixed in the next kernel.
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
Quiet, ye troll. Linus HIMSELF said that the ONLY reason Rieser hasn't made it into 2.4 is because he didn't want to upset the code freeze. Not because it's buggy. Not because of it's "in development" status. You only have yourself to blame for screwing up your laptop, because LINUX ITSELF is in development. It is nowhere near a finished product, but luckily it is good enough for some of us.
Please put this soapbox back from where you got it.
I took a look at the emu10k drivers... problem is, the instructions tell me to build it as a kernel module, which I'd rather not do. Can I just dump SB's downloaded drivers somewhere into the source tree and still have things work? (ie- will make menuconfig correctly and compile just as my 2.2.17 emu10k drivers did?)
If you _really_ care so much about your precious uptime, I have come up with an excellent solution: don't upgrade.
May I ask, how could you be so stupid? Do you really beleive that we should just strip Cox and Torvalds of their positions just because their OS became popular? Its not their fault that it became popular, neither is it their fault that that people have become dependent on it©
Say, for instance, you were writting a killer app© This app became so popular that everyone and their brother were using it© Would you give up your rights to the development of the program just because a couple of dickhead users thought it would be cool for it to be controlled by a democratic board ¥*cough* ICANN *cough*?
BTW, if you have a problem with the way things are being ran, why don't you use Windows or something? If all you can do is bitch about the system, maybe you shouldnt be using it©
Buying a Dell computer is equivalent to dropping the soap in a prison shower.
I'd like to wait for Mandrake to put out a 2.2.18 update (i like all the good stuff they have in there, like supermount), but I want to get the better sound too then!
Thanks!
Mike Roberto
- GAIM: MicroBerto
Berto
I realize this is an old discussion but.... I just read it and noticed this. Maybe someone will care (I am posting anonymously so that noone can trace back what I have to say to the institution that I speak about).
.login rather than setup as the shell)
I worked at a hospital. A big one that did alot of research. The security there was absolutely disgusting. Some things were secure... fairly so. Many things were not.
Firewall? Yea...but it had more ways into it than you can count. They are never hard to get through. Patient data was going out in plain text on many segments. They were just starting to install switches (which fixes the problem somewhat).
No exageration at all...I was talking with a friend at the helpdesk (I was a tech; so we worked somewhat closely at times to coordinate problem fixes). We were talking about the patient care system (the system used for assigning beds to patients check-ins etc), ran on some obscure unix flavor. We had a root shell on the machine in about 30 seconds because the limited access account for the helpdesk was setup in a really stupi dmanner (root login, with a restricted menu shell - run from the
It was really disgusting - lots of systems with easy to guess or even default passords. It was just amazing the stuff I saw (as a tech who bounced from system to system and problem to problem, I saw ALOT).
Of course, physical security was a joke too, Firewall? what firewall? Wouldn't take much to walk in and connect a laptop up to a network jack if you were even mildly cluefull.
-Steve
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
Indeed, this is huge. With this kernel, I believe NFS (esp NFSv3) moves from something you either have to pray your distribution vendor got right, or something you have to cobble together from patches, to a snazzy and high-functioning part of the Linux kernel right out of the box. Many thanks are owed to Trond Myklebust, David Higgen, Alan Cox, and the rest of the NFS gang.
Jumping Jeebus on a Pogo Stick, what is the world coming to? Fork the code and release your own linux-derivitive operating system. You can slap any goddamn version number on it you want - just watch the marketshare coming pouring in.
XML causes global warming.
It was almost this time of year last year that I picked up a copy of the Linux Magazine at the Toronto airport. And it said that 2.4 should be out by time the magazine is on the shelve. I was so excited!!! Almost a year later, it is still not out. Talk about project delay... I know I know. In Open source software, there is never a delay because no one commits to any firm dead line. But that's the difference between a commercial and a open source software. With commercial software, you know (roughly) when something will be out. With open source, all you can do is just hope. I want my stable 2.4!
Now we just need a method of reloading a kernel without a reboot... sounds like a fun (read: hard) project. :-)
Peace out.
what about prozilla ?
oh, i thought the FSF provided most of the tools for the OS, and linus developed the kernel and integrated minix support... my bad.
three letters - BSD Slow down cowboy! Slashdot requires you to wait 1 minute between each submission of /comments.pl in order to allow everyone to have a fair chance to post.
It's been 1 minute since your last submission!
Do you mean that mschapv2 is part of redhat 7.0 after the patch?? I used to use this on the 2.2.12 kernel, and have been waiting for it to come back :) I have been using mpd for FreeBSD, but there are some parts of linux I miss :)
I just know that the first mirror I checked did not have it...
The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.
--Henry Kissinger
SuSE has had it for a while now. It is the way to go. No more long waits for fsck to finish. It would be nice to have it in the stock kernel source though.
Yep, I never spell check.
More incorrect spellings can be found he
'mirrors' points right to www.kernel.org!
That's because Kernel.org is the Linux kernel mirror system.
Now, for a cute link, try here. Or here. (Ness looks so precious.) Or here.
(it's a lot cuter than goatse.cx...)Will I retire or break 10K?
My old Compaq LTE 5200 has no USB port, but has 2 unusued PCMCIA slots. Would I be able to make use of the new USB capabilities using something like the Belkin "BusPort Mobile" pc card (PCMCIA -> 2 USB ports). Has anyone tried this so far?
I just started using Reiserfs yesterday, I was so cutting edge until I saw this was out! 2.4.1 until it's included, huh :(
chris@xanadu:~$ whatis /.
/.: nothing appropriate.
Anyone know if you have to do anything special to compile a kernel on RedHat 7 other then having kgcc*.rpm installed? :)
Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
> One incident is the one at University of Washington Medical Center where a hacker gained access to thousands of medical records and confidential patient data.
What's up with that? Don't they have the funding to get them selves a decent sysadmin?
IMHO if you have data to protect, then either hire someone who know how to make a system secure or don't use the system at all.
If neither of these are acceptable, then there's only one thing to do: openbsd.
Just my 2cents.
Thanks for the info. Now I won't build mass storage in 2.2. BTW, it should corrupt your data too. Wait 2.4.
How to contact me - http://www.pervalidus.net/contact.html
In the meanwhile SuSE and others have tested ReiserFS a lot and it is stable.
Linux does think it is to late to put it in 2.4 now (rightfully so IMHO) but thinks it 'll be in 2.4.1.
At least that was what I read in C't and on an articel on The Register.
Monkey sense
> The guys who made "My Network Places" have their >award every time they drive to work But what if I prefer to drive a BMW, rather than a Yugo?
Replace 'IE' with 'NT' and read the story again...
makes sense now eh???
I had to revert to 2.2.17, which is what I have at home now. When I get the chance I'll grab the latest 2.4 and try again. I'm ever optimistic!
I'd love to test thing more thoroughly. I've written software before and am fully aware of the difficulties. I'm extremely appreciative of the effort that the contributers-- all of them-- have put in. I only wish I had the time to help as well! Right now, however, my (real?) job is draining just about every ounce of energy I've got. By the end of another day fighting with software at work, I'm in no mood to do any real hacking at home :( . Sorry, guys.
On the bright side, I'm very happy with what I've got. I can install new software and my mail client doesn't break like my wife's Outlook 97. I can play around to my heart's content. Whee! Yes, it'd be nice to be able to use that camera that we got for Christmas last year (wife's Win machine is a P100 with no USB, my RH6.2 box has USB) but it's not killing us.
I'm happy that I have a floppy based system that allows my computers to share the modem (LRP). I'm happy to have productivity tools that I can grab and use (StarOffice 5.2). All in all I'm happy with my box!
It's evident that those that are complaining the loudest have done the least when it comes to writing software. Those of us that have done it understand the work involved and are much more happy with what we have! Hey, they are giving it away, you know!
Quit your bitching.
Its not like 80 other sites as well as a hel of a lot of mailing lists havent annouced it as well. The slashdot community isn't the only linux-using community out there, in case you were not aware.
If you dont want to be responsible for kernel.org getting bogged down, dont click on the link. I have the patience to wait a fe days, maybe you do, I guess many dont. Either way, you are not responisble for the actions of the slashdot community.
And if you are going to post garbage like that, at least have the testicular fortitude to log in and do i.
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-isnt it strange to be anything at all.... -jeff mangum
Even the samurai
have teddy bears,
and even the teddy bears
Even the samurai
have teddy bears,
and even the teddy bears
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I might suggest that you reread the article from SecurityFocus, you might notice the paragraph : "The hacker gained initial access through a Linux system in the hospital's pathology department. That system was running the client side of a remote administration tool called VNC, which allowed him access to a Windows NT box. From there he exploited file shares and remote administration relationships, and used trojan horses, to expand his access throughout the network. " Gee, that sounds like improperly installed and run user software in combination with NT security flaws. But I am not blaming NT here ... security is a process and goal, not a piece of hardware.
To sort of quote Dave Dittrich (Terry Gray actually I think) ... "the percieved value of a firewall is greater but the real value of a firewall actually varies inversely (goes down) with an increasing number of machines protected by the firewall."
A firewall at the UW would be an administrative nightmare and so full of holes, swiss cheese would be envious. Meanwhile people would say "oh we are protected by the firewall so we don't have to worry." And a firewall does NOT protect against anybody on the inside.
Security needs to be implemented lower in the foodchain ... at the lab and device level ... encrypt all network streams ... have firewalling software installed on any device not behind a lab firewall ... and encrypt sensitive data!
ejm
Erm, well, I don't know why you should use it but my 2.2.18 just happens to work fine. Plus all the application programs I've use it for. But it's a good question.
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1) A researcher or an MD has time. I know that for sure. I do not know the details of the Univ. of Washington incident in the Pathology Department, but I know that when a profesional as an MD or a PhD wants to venture into the field of computing and Medical informatics, he needs to act responsibly. some stay the whole night to complete a 15 min. presentaion. There is no room for mistakes; as a professional, you are expected to know what you are doing.
2) Same as above.
3) I have a friend who established a Medical Informatics company. He is an MD with a good knowledge in computers. After installing Red Hat on his server, it was hacked in less than an hour! He switched to NT (!). The unused ports can be blocked by third party software as "WinRoute Pro" by Tiny Software (http://www.tinysoftare.com/). I do not know what software is avilable for Linux, but the one managing the PC is expected to detect such a breach.
An automated system for updates would be nice.
There is still a lot of ignorance in the medical community. One article on the British Medical Journal addressed the usage of open source:
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/321/7267/97
I found this article stupid (with all my respect to the author). Do they expect people to provide free software for a high income industry?
I think that the author of the article is dreaming.
I think that you are in the wrong site!
You probably wanted to post on the Microsoft site, whatever that thing is!
:)
Linux is becoming more user friendly with time. It is true that Win2k is more stable than Win98 or NT, but the only reason Miscrosoft improved its products is Linux.
If you check appwatch, you'll see that 2.2.18 has been available for quite some time, maybe you should check to make sure your information is correct before you go flaming.
<high-level position here>
<name of stupid small company here>
And not even a very good troll, at that.
"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master."
Right. Because mounts named /dev/FUfs/rdsk/c02303394023048304230290 will ensure that Linux sells into the billions of copies next year. There's a place for "My Network Places" and there's a place for /dev/FU. Give you one guess which one is like hotcakes and which barely makes it out of the hands of geeks. The guys who made "My Network Places" have their award every time they drive to work in it, while you're still scratching your head over this.
"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master."
OK, code monkey, that sounds like you volunteered. Start cranking out those dollar-signs and semicolons!
"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master."
Oh please.
When was work started on nt5? It was just released early this year. OTOH, I first started running linux in mid 1997. Sure, I've been running it off and on for years. I'm running win2k right now for three reasons only. 1) It's slightly more stable than win98. 2) for some reason I can't run linux or qnx on my hardware.. altho beos is strangely fair game. 3) games.
I can't believe it's been over 2 years and noone's worked on a linux port of Halflife!
Yeah, you, might have heard of nt5 before you heard of linux.. but then a friend of mine just got into computers 2 months ago, he runs winME and heard of linux only a few weeks ago.
Don't generalize for the rest of us.
ah, in case you haven't heard linux started in 1992, I first *heard* of linux back in '94 when I was getting a catalog selling slackware cd's. I finally got to install a copy (albeit "monkey" or "mini"-linux) in 1997
Since then I've used RH 5.0, RH 5.2, RH 6, mandrake 6, mandrake 6.2, and suse (I dunno.. 5?)
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when /. can mention a kernel has problems with a new piece of hardware and they have the next kernel out within ten hours! Even if the kernel really doesn't have problems with the hardware, and /. has done it's usual piss-poor job of reporting the facts in it's stories, to jumpstart kernel development like that. Here I thought /. just DDOSed websites.
Come on guys, use this power for good. Start saying that the P4 doesn't work with the 2.4 kernel, I want a kernel upgrade!
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Soundblaster LIVE!/emu10k1 support has been in the kernel atleast since 2.2.17. Before that one i used 2.4.0-test which also had support for it. As for ntfs support its easy to set up a small fat32 partition. Linux can read and write those.
Yea, but there's no difference between using a Live! and a cheap soundcard with clean-sounding circitry. Linux doesn't use any of the acceleration features on the sound card, and for the money, there are a lot of cards that have cleaner sound, sans 3D hardware.
I've yet to see a cheap soundcard with anything like as low a S/N ratio as the SB Live! or a DAC even approaching the same quality. I doubt such a beast exists. Of course, unless you've got it hooked up to a decent amp/speakers then you won't hear the differenece.
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Mandrake comes with a seriously non standard, patched kernel. (They are actually more than likely using fairly recent emu10k1 drivers, which were probably from opensource.creative.com), they also more than likely patched for usb support and other such little things.
Yup, in fact that should be kernels, it actually comes with two - a 'standard version' which is pretty heavily patched and a 'secure' version with improvements like a non-executable stack and ps showing only the current user's processes. Last time I checked both were still at 2.2.16 (although I'm still using 7.1, don't know if there are more updates for 7.2).
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What a load of Bull. I have used an ISA SB16, an Ensonique PCI, and a SB Live! Trying to play an mp3 on the SB16 while doing *anything* else on the computer will result in much static and skipping.
The Ensonique PCI is much better. But, believe it or not, the SB Live! is even better. First, all four speakers are supported (unlike in BeOS, which you apparently seem to like). Second, the quality of audio recording is noticably improved over the Ensonique.
Ranessin
Not sure what models you were looking at but SANE now has alpha support for the Canon CanoScan 300, 600, and 2700F.
Ranessin
My apologies... A closer look shows them all to be SCSI, not USB.
Ranessin
BeOS supports up to 24 seperate audio channels, so if you ever find a card with 24 line outs...
Interesting... So why doesn't it support the two line outs on the SoundBlaster Live!
Ranessin
Windows and Linux. Why can't we work out our differences? Why can't we work things out? Why can't we all just get along?
Test 12 is released -- on 12/12/00!
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I suppose you think they should give you your money back, eh?
wow, the kernel compiled on my machine in under 5 mintues, as opposed to the usual 30 min to an hour. i'm impressed.
my $.05
>>This is the first release to the 2.2 tree in quite some time,
>> so it's probably worth updating on those machines which can afford a reboot.
This is going to be a problem for one of my coworkers. I work for a company that does cross-platform development where I program the windows software and he programs the linux software. Several months back, we made a wager regarding whose machine would stay up the longest before a reboot - the loser of the wager must wear a t-shirt of the others choosing. If I win, then he must wear a "Windows Rocks" or "I love Bill" shirt, and if he wins, I must wear a "Linux Rocks" or "I love Linus" shirt.
He likes to remain current with the software on his machine and will download and recompile the latest code for the tools on his machine. However, since the kernal changes will require a reboot, what will he do? I think that it will be a fun day at work today.
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"Microsoft has made computing accessible to a population who would otherwise not be able to use computers" - B. Kernigha
The local collage that I attend was recently hacked. They were running, NT4 and NT5.
It seems that the administrator had failed to apply the SAME patch that should have been applied
by M$, when they were hacked!. They are now in the process of switching to Slackware 7.1 as
recommended by myself, and 3 of my co-workers. Their samba servers, which runs FreeBSD, and Linux havn't been touched since boot (2 years ago), and remain that way today.
About 1 year ago a local company's webpage was defaced on the grounds that "just because he ran NT4". M$ din't fix that but, and he got no support on the phone. He is now running Linux 2.2.12 as his webserver.
When I first started using NT (1996), I would get on irc, and chat around. Then someone would start knocking people out of irc. Nt acted in a rather weird manner. Every time I re-entered the NT4 machine would either lock up, blue screen, or reboot. (SP3) for no real reason. M$ was contacted, and they did not point me to a fix, nor did they fix it untill 2 months later.
Ive been running Linux for 2 1/2 years now, with no problems accept the average sendmail daemon being overloaded, or inetd dropping a port, in which now im using xinetd with no trouble. 482 days uptime, somthing I could NEVER accomplish with NT.
NOTE: ANY administrator that doesn't update their machine, no matter what OS it is almost deserves to be hacked... Period.
M$ stock dropped in 1/2 since last year. If you are a MCSE, you will be broke.
Yes, the new kernel works great.
OSS has released the commercial sound drivers already also, if you are using them as I am.
M$ stock dropped in 1/2 since last year. If you are a MCSE, you will be broke.
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"Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
I wasn't really talking about splitting off the source tree, just providing different source files. linux-2.2.18-i386.tar.bz2 is worth just as much to an Intel compiler as the entire tar ball. The source tree remains one, but for the purposes of smaller downloads, you only need to download the source of the architecture you're on.
And I'd love to delete some savegames et al from my machine because it would mean that the machine that I run Linux on could play games. The system is pretty stripped down bare-bones.
Pardon my naivete about things kernel-based, but I've noticed that the tar.bz2 file for the entire kernel is now a whopping 15+MB. That's a big file to download if you don't keep sources around with which to patch or are downloading a new kernel for the first time.
Would it be appropriate or even possible to break out all the architecture-dependent files into separate packages so that you could, say, download the source that would compile on Intel's chips only? Or is the the source so closely linked as to prevent this (I for one always delete all the architecture-dependent stuff after I'm done compiling, except for that of whatever machine I'm on).
Is USB storage supported now? The USB patches for 2.2.17 explicitly mention that usb-storage is not supported for 2.2 kernels. I have a USB zip disk, accessing it under 2.2.8pre21 and doing a large transfer would reboot the machine :-(.
Anyone know?
> I use it exclusively. VA has had no trouble with using it on Sourceforge. I have never lost any data.
Really really really freakin good for you. Most owners of firestone tires are still in one piece too. On the other hand, unless you just recently upgraded to the most bleeding edge version of ReiserFS, don't hit suspend on that laptop -- causes unrecoverable filesystem corruption. But hey, my fault right? I should have used the latest version even when that was the latest version, the fact that a bug may get caught in the future is no excuse to not use it now, right?
I may come back to ReiserFS in a couple years. I've been burned too badly with it now.
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This was with the stock kernel and stock ReiserFS that came with SuSE. You're saying I get what I deserve for using Linux? Couldn't agree more. tah-tah.
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> Are you sure that ReiserFS did it and not a buggy laptop BIOS? That sort of thing is pretty common due to crappy APM implementations.
... you tell me. Linux never properly updated the clock on resume (FreeBSD did fine). ReiserFS being journalled is not happy when the clock goes wacky, but corruption isn't an acceptable failure condition. I believe this is a documented problem and fix in ReiserFS.
Sony VAIO PCG-F480 laptop
Ok, I could deal with corruption, but it was *irreparable* corruption, and the repair tool (which made much noise about being "alpha quality" -- also unacceptable, to have recovery as an afterthought) hosed the entire *partition* when it failed. It wasn't backed up because I hadn't yet put valuable data on it, but I'm not sure what to expect even with backups now...
Moot point now, Linux is no longer on my laptop, though I still plan to run it on a server if its nfs3 support is solid.
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It may not be apparent from the changelog, but there are also some important fixes to NFS version 2 (along with the v3 updates mentioned elsewhere) in the 2.2.18 kernel.
If you are using NFS at all with a 2.2.x kernel, then you really should upgrade. Yes, even if you're using NFSv2 over UDP.
Props out to trond, dhiggen, hjl, ac and all the guys on the NFS list.
P.S. Oh yeah, upgrade your NFS-utils too.
This is the first release to the 2.2 tree in quite some time, so it's probably worth updating on those machines which can afford a reboot.
I know, the slashback article talked about the ability to avoid rebooting, but it dosen't support SMP. Wouldn't the mission critical machines be the ones not needing a reboot, and usually having multiple processors? Maybe I missed something here.
Canon wasn't releasing programming info last time I checked. Just got an Epson 1200U photo. Excellent picture quality and speed. Works well under linux
I use it exclusively. VA has had no trouble with using it on Sourceforge. I have never lost any data.
Actually, I've lost a *lot* of data with ext2. I've lost a lot of time, too. I had to fly to Boston one time because of ext2. Someone just turned off a system and the drive got corrupted.
Just because it isn't in the kernel does not mean that it's not stable. Just because something is *in* the kernel does not mean that it *is* stable.
Are you sure that ReiserFS did it and not a buggy laptop BIOS? That sort of thing is pretty common due to crappy APM implementations.
Myself, and the rest of my department have run stock ReiserFS (SuSE 6.4, 7.0) on our various Toshiba laptops without a hitch. I actually suspended mine a few times today.
When I first installed it, I went around hitting the reset button all the time, completely amazed at the stability.
I've been burned many times by ext2, and I probably won't ever be going back to it. It was great when I had no other choice (unless I wanted to use UMSDOS, shudder) and it was fast, too, but it doesn't quite satisfy me with larger hard drives and more data.
I love being a half-block from Philips Hall, where (I believe, anyhow) >a href="http://www.ibiblio.org">ibiblio (aka metalab, aka sunsite) and their kernel mirror resides. Avg. speed of download: 1.5 MB/s ...
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"Oh, I hope he doesn't give us halyatchkies," said Heinrich.
Yea, but there's no difference between using a Live! and a cheap soundcard with clean-sounding circitry. Linux doesn't use any of the acceleration features on the sound card, and for the money, there are a lot of cards that have cleaner sound, sans 3D hardware.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Oh please.
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.90-beta(still undercooked), (btw, I switched distros several times in a month when I left RedHat)
When was work started on nt5?
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Around 1996/7. Knowing MS, NT5 and NT4 were in parallel development for the last months of NT4's release. I remember ZDNet having Beta copies around '98 or so.
It was just released early this year.
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Believe it or not, NT5 took longer to release than kernel 2.2!
OTOH, I first started running linux in mid 1997.
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So? You don't count. I'm talking about the general public. NT5 was in development LONG before MS even knew about Linux, much less considered it a threat. Hell, OS/2 was probably stronger on their radar at the time (tounge in cheek
I can't believe it's been over 2 years and noone's worked on a linux port of Halflife!
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Strangely, QuakeII is ported, so a half-life port should be a chinch? And since it is such an easy game for today's hardware to run, Linux should have no problem with it!
Yeah, you, might have heard of nt5 before you heard of linux.. but then a friend of mine just got into computers 2 months ago, he runs winME and heard of linux only a few weeks ago.
Don't generalize for the rest of us.
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Stranglely, I did. But that was because I heard about NT5 when Linux still hadn't gotten halfway through 2.0.
ah, in case you haven't heard linux started in 1992, I first *heard* of linux back in '94 when I was getting a catalog selling slackware cd's. I finally got to install a copy (albeit "monkey" or "mini"-linux) in 1997
Since then I've used RH 5.0, RH 5.2, RH 6, mandrake 6, mandrake 6.2, and suse (I dunno.. 5?)
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Slack 3.5, RH 5.0, 5.1, 6.1, 6.2 Slackware 7.0, 7.1, Mandrake 7.0, 7.1, Suse 6.4 (for 5 minutes before I got scared off), Stampede
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Actually, I'm underwhelmed by Win2K. It takes more memory, it runs slower, and it is less stable (for me) than NT4. NT4 only crashed on me twice, but Win2K has crashed at least a dozen times, usually running OpenGL code (RivaTNT, det3)
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Unless there is something wrong with them to begin with, they shouldn't improve your XMMS performance. Decoding an MP3 is entirely CPU, and the only thing the soundcard does is send a stream to the speakers. I don't even know what the point of running such a great soundcard under Linux is. Its not like there is any API that takes advantage of it outside Windows-land.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Halflife is NOT based on Quake I. Don't even get me started on the reasons why HalfLife could not be Quake I. (Ex. No chrome mapping, limited lighting effects, less 3D accelerator integration, etc). Secondly, Quake I has already been ported. The main hangups would be that HalfLife uses a very customized version of Quake II. What in god's name ARE you talking about?
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
I was just talking about MP3 playback, which would be fine on any OS. I mean you can go and get a sound card with some high quality circutry (hint, Ensoniqe AudioPCI ain't it) and it would be no different from an SBLive on Linux. Second, BeOS supports up to 24 seperate audio channels, so if you ever find a card with 24 line outs...
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Most likely a driver issue. The 24 channel support is (for the present) limited to Pro-level cards that actually support that many *seperate* (not mixed) streams. Of course, the game_audio kit is being released (as in they have sample source on their website), which should allow these new "prosumer" cards to use their multi-channel capabilities. Check out game audio and 24 channel support here.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
>>I can't believe it's been over 2 years and >>noone's worked on a linux port of Halflife! >Strangely, QuakeII is ported, so a half-life port >should be a chinch? And since it is such an easy >game for today's hardware to run, Linux >should have no problem with it! Half life is based on Quake 1 not Quake 2. Porting the engine over while not overly difficult for peope experienced in porting 3d games(say... Loki) it would still be a large project. And probably not worth the expense for Sierra/Valve to order. Keep in mind that Half Life is a very old game, and although it's still popular, it's probably not generating a lot of new revenue from it's sales.
treke
I wouldn't chastise them too much either. The developers the wrote the drivers have left creative, but probably just to get a higher paying job. Their contracts with creative probably prevent them from working on the drivers now. If they are continuing to build on the emu10k chip then it is completly possible that they are adding things that are covered by licenses that would prevent them from releasing this, much like Nvidia's situaton. I think we should thank them for what they have given us, and consider the future as it appears. A few details on why specs aren't available would be nice though.
treke
Linus and Cox supply you with a completely free operating system. Linux is better than M$ because it is released when the code is mature, not when it is marketable. The best part about Linux is that if you don't think development is moving fast enough, all you have to do is stop trolling on /., pop up an Xterm, cd to /usr/src/linux, and speed up the development process yourself.
I've never been part of the kernel development effort except to do some testing and to report bugs, so it would be completely inappropriate for me to try to do something like that.
What I do want to do is make it easier for more users to participate in the testing process, in part so that a wider variety of configurations gets tested quicker, and so that novice users can be guided along in the steps needed to provide a meaningful bug report.
I've seen lots of reports saying "it doesn't work" or "this driver doesn't work" without really providing enough background info, and hopefully this would make it easier to capture and archive that.
Really all you'd need to know to participate in the use of this is to build your own kernel - all! - or hopefully to apply test patches. Then you'd fill out a web form.
Kernel developers who didn't want to participate wouldn't have to, or maybe we could post summary information in some helpful way to the linux-kernel list.
Michael D. Crawford
GoingWare Inc
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This is a really notable advance. It takes linux nfs from junky v2 userspace to fast state-of-the-art v3 kernel support.
The kernel has a stripped down version of the driver from opensource.creative.com. Last I checked, the kernel(2.4.0-test1x) had version 0.6 of the emu10k1 driver, which is probably a snapshot from last July or August.
Since then the mixer has changed to use the ac97 module, and work has begun on a multipurpose mixer/effect-loader to take advantage of the more advanced features. There's also an assembler for writting dsp effects, and a few other miscellaneous utils.
If you do not need any of this stuff, then the kernel driver should be just fine.
BTW, creative's employees did write the original driver, but it is now maintained by the opensource community. Creative has completely forgotten that Linux even exists
I would not praise creative too much. Yes, it was a big step for them to opensource their drivers, but alot has changed since Nov '99.
They never released any official document on the card (only the source-which was missing many features), all the employees responsible for getting it opensourced have left creative, and creative now refuses to release any new info on the card. Questions the developers have asked are usually is replied with "oh, you're going to need to sign a NDA" (that's when there actually is a reply)
To make matters worst, creative is milking the emu10k1 for all it's worth and are continuing to release new cards based on it. They add new features without telling the linux guys how to support it. (which in some cases renders the card semi-useless)
I somehow doubt that future generations (based on the emu10k2, or whatever) will be support under Linux. Creative is a Very Windows-centric company. To them, any other OS is simply not worth supporting.
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Tell me what makes you so afraid
Of all those people you say you hate
If they are better, though, I'll be sure to get them to improve my xmms performance.
Tell me what makes you so afraid
Of all those people you say you hate
Also, if you have a win32 box nearby, you can try downloading it with FlashGet and opening up 10 sessions getting different sections of the file. I'm not saying that's good for all the mirrors if everybody opens up 10 connections, I'm just saying that you can get an unfair advantage over the single-connection people once the server starts restricting bandwidth to individual connections. I used it to get Red Hat 7 and CounterStrike 1.0, and it works damn well.
Tell me what makes you so afraid
Of all those people you say you hate
Tell me what makes you so afraid
Of all those people you say you hate
Tell me what makes you so afraid
Of all those people you say you hate
Anyone else have problems with finding linux compliant USB devices?
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Even the samurai
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Get the optimizing compiler here. Then tweak arch/i386/Makefile for the required compiler flag. At least that's what I'm doing on my K6, running 2.2.18 OK.
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I currently run 2.2.17 with the IDE patch set - this allows my VIA MVP3 to work in UDMA mode.
I'll have to wait for the IDE patch for 2.2.18 before upgrading. Pity as I want to try out USB at some point, and 2.4.0-test wasn't too stable on my hardware last time I tried it.
Maybe the IDE patches will make 2.2.19, but as there are IDE chipsets out there that can't implement DMA safely, I doubt wether this will happen.
I'm holding fire until it appears in a stable kernel release, before it goes onto live systems.
P.S. Service Pack 1 installed without a hitch. Didn't really need it though.
- I don't care if they globalize against free speech. All my best free thoughts are done in my head.
By the way, can we say FUD?
- I don't care if they globalize against free speech. All my best free thoughts are done in my head.
You're joking right? I haven't had to reboot my box since I installed it (barring a video card upgrade once).
- I don't care if they globalize against free speech. All my best free thoughts are done in my head.
Hey look! 2.2.18 is out! Here's the full kernel source! Copy and paste it from your web browser! Oh yeah, and I got first post.
That's lameness.
I rebooted so many times, now look at MY version number!
E:\>uname -a
'uname' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
E:\>ver
Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
Want to hear my story about stability?
I install Windows 2000 on WHQL hardware.
I went to change the default wallpaper, and Win2k locked hard, having to hit the reset button.
I hit "use current" in Internet Options to set the homepage, it froze solid, with the sound making the same stupid windows "ding" stuttering in an infinite loop. Hard reboot.
Oh, I installed SP1, and now black and white pages being printed out on my out-of-the-box supported printer take over a minute PER LINE.
There is no way for me to fix this, I haven't got a fucking clue what Microsoft did to cause this. When I try to "uninstall" SP1, it says "Setup will uninstall the Service Pack 1 but will not uninstall the Service Pack 1" and I hit OK and it exits. I did choose to backup files so that I may uninstall it later. Now for me to print, I need to reinstall Windows 2000 (takes over an hour) and not install SP1.
And they charge money for this.
to an early /. story -- 2.2.18 fixes the CPUID "bug" that causes problems for Linux on the Pentium IV.
Never meant half of the things I said to you. So you know, there's a half that might be true - G. Phillips
'mirrors' points right to www.kernel.org!
Well, first of all, this isn't a security kernel release.So no need to upgrade for that reason.
But speaking of security updates; there really isn't any difference between running Linux and MS-windows servers, regarding security updates. In both cases, the sysadmin has to subscribe to his vendors security lists, read them, and apply the patches.
It is very easy, to apply new patches to eg. a Red Hat Linux box: get the files as described in the security mail. Instructions are provided in the mail, but in most cases, one just do a 'rpm -Fvh [filename]' This will update the system, if the program is installed.
There is even a program, that automatically fetch and update all the needed rpms for you.(this may require some setting up).
And if you want really easy upgrades, then pay a minor amount, and get priority access,web instructions and a nice graphical userinterface, for automatic security upgrades (Red Hat Network). As an ordinary web-surfer, this would basically mean, that you can forget about following security lists.
Regarding the hacking as described in:
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/122
"It's a story of great incompetence," said the hacker, a 25-year-old Dutch man who calls himself "Kane." "All the data taken from these computers was taken over the Internet. All the machines were exposed without any firewalls of any kind."
This has less to do, with security upgrades, than sheer incompetent network designing, and administration. Really basic stuff, like NAT/Masquerading, firewalls etc, would likely have prevented that hack.
just after the slashback with Two Kernel Monte comes the announcement for a new kernel threatening to obliterate uptimes around the world. :-)
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is different than both 2.2.17 and 2.4.0. I tried to post a patch to fix it here, but amusingly, slashdot's lamness filter rejected it.
.. whatver/everything, especially kswapd, in 2.2.16 and 2.2.17. It seems to have gone away with 2.2.18.
The two big things I like about 2.2.18 (I've been running the -pre kernels) is that they include a working, and version 3, NFS client, and the VM seems more stable. I used to get "VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for"
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Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
Yes, the Creative open-source drivers for the SB Live!/512 are very different than the current ones included in the kernel sources, and use an extra ac97_codec module, in addition to the emu10k1 module. I've extensively tested both, and I'd say that both performance and quality _sound_ better. I've also found the ones included in the 2.2.18 kernel to be a bit buggy, in addition to being outdated. Starting and stopping a .wav file with the 2.2.18 drivers often causes a small burst of static, which is simply unacceptable.
Interested in open source engine management for your Subaru?
Want to help? Write crawford@goingware.com I know how to code in a variety of languages, but I don't know squat about designing a database schema.
I thought something like this would be helpful after I subscribed to the linux-kernel mailing list for a while to report a bug in 2.4.0 and work with the kernel developers to get it fixed. The bug got fixed, but I sure got a lot of mail and it was a little hard getting the fix nailed down.
Michael D. Crawford
GoingWare Inc
-- Could you use my software consulting serv
This is good news..
I was wondering about the disadvantages of open source systems.
The problem is in security bugs (as in Red Hat) with people who are not IT professionals. One incident is the one at University of Washington Medical Center where a hacker gained access to thousands of medical records and confidential patient data. The start was with a Linux server in the Pathology Department:
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/122
The frequent updates are great, but I am thinking that some updates are starting to resemble those of Internet Explorer; in the IE case, less than 5% of users have the time or awareness to update their browsers and operating system. In Linux, a minority will face this problem, but it seems that it is the same issue.
I know that this is a bit different than the above topic, but I think that this problem will be more apparent with time.
- A.P.
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"Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
Let me just say that the NFS (network file system) support in 2.2.18 is vastly improved over the previous kernels. Alan rolled in the patches that most distros had been adding to the 2.2 kernel, fixed their bugs, and made me a very happy man. NFS v3 support is there for the taking, folks... enjoy.
The man wrote (most of) an operating system. If his socks were any higher, he'd be wearing pantyhose.
Who do Linus and Cox answer to?
Themselves. I think you're forgetting that this is a free operating system. In the "Real World" we answer to whoever's writing the paycheque. It's mildly nauseating to see people download their free iso and then complain about release dates.
I'd like to see some sort of body set up that has soveriegnty over Linus and Cox,
Okay, these people, who are working for free, aren't meeting you're timeline. You're solution is not to write a cheque or organize some other funding effort to encourage the development process or to pitch in yourself, but rather to demand some sort of "linux police force".
If you want to complain about customer service, I suggest you call your Sun sales representative
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Keep in mind before upgrading that if you're running ReiserFS (as you should be =) ), the latest 2.2.17 won't patch correctly, be it 2.2.18 + patch or 2.2.17 + patch + 2.2.18 patch. These should be out imminently, however, so keep an eye on their web site. Also, be sure to check out opensource.creative.com for the latest EMU10K1, as the drivers are far more recent than the ones included in 2.2.18, and a great bit better, I've found. This is definitely worth the upgrade, for no other reason than the USB backporting, as well as the AGPgart and DRI drivers.
Interested in open source engine management for your Subaru?