There were people dying of starvation in the 1980's. And the 1990's. And there still are. I think the only reason they didn't riot was because they didn't have the energy as they hadn't eaten a proper meal for months.
Not all of this is environmental - a lot of it is due to cash crops being grown in order to pay off debts to more developed nations - but when parts of Ethiopia don't have rain for a decade and the Sahara Desert gets bigger and bigger every year thus reducing the area on which you can grow arable crops, then you might have to think that part of it is.
Without the Scandanavian countries telling the rest of Europe about acid rain - that didn't fall locally, but damaged the environment hundreds of miles away - who would have known and started looking for causes? Without scientists in Antarctica measuring the depth of the ice sheets, how would we know the global ocean temperature rise or what was causing it? Without satellite images showing the increasingly large hole in the ozone layer, how would we have known about the damage CFCs were causing?
This article is suggesting one possible outcome of our current environmental effect. If this means that more people then work harder to stop that outcome from occurring that doesn't mean that the writer was wrong, it just means people have wised up to the fact that we've fucked the planet and need to do something serious about it, NOW.
Mocking people for their religious beliefs - however cracked they are - really won't help stop the destruction to the environment humans are causing. And neither will whatever deity you happen to believe in.
I can also see the point of the people opposed to this scheme.
As it says in TFA, the people who are most likely to send unsolicited spam are outwith the boundaries of the US legislators, or are already ignoring the laws that are in place.
It would be nice to have a way of shielding childrens mailboxes that didn't involve their parents actively looking through their mails first, but when they're being targetted at school email addresses isn't that the responsibility of whoever is the mail administrator at that school?
I'm not blaming anyone - bar the spammers - but that's my two cents worth.
I think "legally drunk" would refer to being under the blood alcohol limit for driving a car. I'd imagine that "drunk" would refer to any amount over that limit.
My apologies for maybe not getting this straight here, but if I read something on the Register site, or the BBC site, or somewhere else that a lot of people in the tech community read, then I still get kudos for telling you that the story is there and giving a precis to it?
That seems kinda odd to me. Stuff that I'm unlikely to stumble across as part of my daily web trawling is the stuff that I really like to see on/. and that's the sort of stuff I'd like to see rewarded.
If I wanted to see something that was going to be seen by everyone, I'd look elsewhere. If I wanted to see something that was cool, then I'd look here.
Obviously, if I wanted to discuss my opinions on the piece then I'd come here too. Or if I just wanted to be flamed out of existence, then I'd come here and say something bad about Linux or something....;)
I just don't see why reporting what's on other major websites gets you any kind of kudos. Or maybe I just have a flawed idea of what constitutes a major website.
It's not as if there's that many people called Silas in the real world anyway, but if I can't get silasthehobbit as my nick then I'll probably not join the channel\game\email. It may sound petty, but that's who I am online, and have been for about 12 years.
It's not who I am IRL (although I am planning on having just the name Silas - no surname whatsoever) but I kinda live most of my life online now, and if I couldn't be "me" then I probably would have the same reaction as you.
Them then re-releasing the Hot Coffee version as a special adult-only don't-have-to-hack-the-code release (which I'm guessing some people would buy) and making MORE money from this. Which would be exactly the opposite that the original complainants were attempting to achieve, no?
Really? The Chinese government did none of those things? I must have missed the apologists meeting when that position was put forward. May I suggest you read this http://hrw.org/wr2k3/asia4.html ? This is what is coming out of the country, from the people on the ground the situation is far, far worse. People are being murdered for having views the government don't like, and voters who vote for anyone other than the official party representative for local positions are also facing similar attacks on their liberty.
There's supposed to be one in Yellowstone Park (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4326987 .stm)which has been bulging for some time now. If this is indeed another one, then the fallout from Katrina is going to seem mild in comparison.
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silas
No, I'm referring to the human rights violations under the current regime: http://www.derechos.org/human-rights/nasia/china/ and you really shouldn't presume what I thought in the first place and then extrapolate from there and then decide you don't like what you come up with. You're an idiot
More reason to invade then. Seriously, if it weren't for the fact that the US seems oddly keen on pacifying them, wouldn't they be *exactly* the kind of country you'd expect them to invade?
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silas
Ironic, huh.
I wasn't even being flamebait in the original post, I was merely pointing out that it was nice that it had landed successfully, rather than doing that shooting stars thing like last time.
This whole "getting into and back from space" thing really shouldn't be this difficult by now, should it?
You are an idiot. Or a troll. Or both. Now please do us all a favour and go away. The only people who should really have thought about population control were your parents.
I may be mistaken, but I thought it was one dies every three seconds.
Otherwise they'd have to click their fingers MUCH quicker in that advert
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silas
hobbit
london
Slashdot Mirror
There were people dying of starvation in the 1980's. And the 1990's. And there still are. I think the only reason they didn't riot was because they didn't have the energy as they hadn't eaten a proper meal for months.
Not all of this is environmental - a lot of it is due to cash crops being grown in order to pay off debts to more developed nations - but when parts of Ethiopia don't have rain for a decade and the Sahara Desert gets bigger and bigger every year thus reducing the area on which you can grow arable crops, then you might have to think that part of it is.
Without the Scandanavian countries telling the rest of Europe about acid rain - that didn't fall locally, but damaged the environment hundreds of miles away - who would have known and started looking for causes? Without scientists in Antarctica measuring the depth of the ice sheets, how would we know the global ocean temperature rise or what was causing it? Without satellite images showing the increasingly large hole in the ozone layer, how would we have known about the damage CFCs were causing?
This article is suggesting one possible outcome of our current environmental effect. If this means that more people then work harder to stop that outcome from occurring that doesn't mean that the writer was wrong, it just means people have wised up to the fact that we've fucked the planet and need to do something serious about it, NOW.
Mocking people for their religious beliefs - however cracked they are - really won't help stop the destruction to the environment humans are causing. And neither will whatever deity you happen to believe in.
Whatever, mod me down, I'm getting used to it.
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silas
hobbit
I can also see the point of the people opposed to this scheme.
As it says in TFA, the people who are most likely to send unsolicited spam are outwith the boundaries of the US legislators, or are already ignoring the laws that are in place.
It would be nice to have a way of shielding childrens mailboxes that didn't involve their parents actively looking through their mails first, but when they're being targetted at school email addresses isn't that the responsibility of whoever is the mail administrator at that school?
I'm not blaming anyone - bar the spammers - but that's my two cents worth.
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silas
Ah! Then in that case, I'm fine with it.
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silas
hobbit
london
Sorry to reply to my own post, but how is that flamebait?
This was on the BBC's website yesterday. I've given the link and complained about the fact this isn't what I consider news.
I fail to see how this can be considered as flamebait.
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silas
hobbit
london
I think "legally drunk" would refer to being under the blood alcohol limit for driving a car. I'd imagine that "drunk" would refer to any amount over that limit.
Although I'm prepared to be wrong about this.
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silas
hobbit
london
Oh wait, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4598714.stm I did.
And someone gets a referral link for that "news" item?
Jeez
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silas
hobbit
london
You know, $deity may be trying to tell you something...
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silas
hobbit
london
My apologies for maybe not getting this straight here, but if I read something on the Register site, or the BBC site, or somewhere else that a lot of people in the tech community read, then I still get kudos for telling you that the story is there and giving a precis to it?
/. and that's the sort of stuff I'd like to see rewarded.
;)
That seems kinda odd to me. Stuff that I'm unlikely to stumble across as part of my daily web trawling is the stuff that I really like to see on
If I wanted to see something that was going to be seen by everyone, I'd look elsewhere. If I wanted to see something that was cool, then I'd look here.
Obviously, if I wanted to discuss my opinions on the piece then I'd come here too. Or if I just wanted to be flamed out of existence, then I'd come here and say something bad about Linux or something....
I just don't see why reporting what's on other major websites gets you any kind of kudos. Or maybe I just have a flawed idea of what constitutes a major website.
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silas
hobbit
london
You so weren't kidding. That place is like a meat market for 16yr olds.
Why weren't girls that slutty when I was that age?
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silas
hobbit
london
"I think this is a really good move from Microsoft, this way they will be able to" ...finish sentences?
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silas
hobbit
...is completely black! What a surprise! When you zoom in, there's nothing to see.
Move along now, nothing to see.
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silas
hobbit
It's not as if there's that many people called Silas in the real world anyway, but if I can't get silasthehobbit as my nick then I'll probably not join the channel\game\email. It may sound petty, but that's who I am online, and have been for about 12 years.
It's not who I am IRL (although I am planning on having just the name Silas - no surname whatsoever) but I kinda live most of my life online now, and if I couldn't be "me" then I probably would have the same reaction as you.
You have my sympathies.
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silas
hobbit
london
I'd get a much bigger bench.
Have you seen how many bullets the Met Police shot into that Brazilian chap? As I say, exponentially.
A walking target for muggers. Or if you went on the London Underground with it, increase your likelihood of being shot by the Met Police exponentially
Them then re-releasing the Hot Coffee version as a special adult-only don't-have-to-hack-the-code release (which I'm guessing some people would buy) and making MORE money from this. Which would be exactly the opposite that the original complainants were attempting to achieve, no?
Really? The Chinese government did none of those things? I must have missed the apologists meeting when that position was put forward. May I suggest you read this http://hrw.org/wr2k3/asia4.html ? This is what is coming out of the country, from the people on the ground the situation is far, far worse. People are being murdered for having views the government don't like, and voters who vote for anyone other than the official party representative for local positions are also facing similar attacks on their liberty.
There's supposed to be one in Yellowstone Park (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4326987 .stm)which has been bulging for some time now. If this is indeed another one, then the fallout from Katrina is going to seem mild in comparison.
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silas
No, I'm referring to the human rights violations under the current regime: http://www.derechos.org/human-rights/nasia/china/ and you really shouldn't presume what I thought in the first place and then extrapolate from there and then decide you don't like what you come up with. You're an idiot
More reason to invade then. Seriously, if it weren't for the fact that the US seems oddly keen on pacifying them, wouldn't they be *exactly* the kind of country you'd expect them to invade? -- silas
Why not, the Chinese have more human rights violations than Iraq ever did. Less oil though...
Ironic, huh. I wasn't even being flamebait in the original post, I was merely pointing out that it was nice that it had landed successfully, rather than doing that shooting stars thing like last time. This whole "getting into and back from space" thing really shouldn't be this difficult by now, should it?
At least it all landed at once this time...
You are an idiot. Or a troll. Or both. Now please do us all a favour and go away. The only people who should really have thought about population control were your parents.
I may be mistaken, but I thought it was one dies every three seconds. Otherwise they'd have to click their fingers MUCH quicker in that advert -- silas hobbit london