It's also a little more than just computers. I drove past my old school busstop on a quick trip through the neighbourhood one morning, just before work. One of those spur of the moment things.
At the busstop were 5 schoolkids waiting for the bus - and at the time I went past EVERY one was on their cell phone, none talking to the other. (not face to face anyway, hell they could have all been on a party line to each other for all I know:)
While that's not a complete lack of human interaction, neither is a lot of computing. Networked gameplay, AIM/AOL/email/MSNmessenger/IRC, webcam chats, forums, newsgroups, slashdot... it's all a form of human-human interaction, and quite a bit bigger IMHO than just plain using a computer to interact with non-human objects.
No, I have no point - just a few comments inspired by your post.
How do you figure that the amiga used those icons before the mac, when the first amiga was released in 1985, more than a year after the first mac which used icons from the lisa, which was demonstrated in 1982, the GUI of which had been under development for 18 months already; Before hi-toro existed, even.
Screwy Amiga-user revisionism
Buy a laptop and separate the base.
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Buy a laptop and take off the base. ta-dah, problem solved!. You have a flat-panel monitor AND a small headless server.
Of course, you do then need to make the interface to connect the flat panel to something useful, but thats where the fun comes into it:)
Does being an early adopter really have much benefit besides bragging rights?
Curiosity. Somewhat like nabbing and installing a beta copy of some software and checking out where it's at. If I had the cash and felt the satisfaction of my own curiosity was worth it, I'd have a few SATA drives running, just for the hell of it.
It gives some geektypes something to talk about, ponder over, and throw opinions around on where stuff's heading.
Then yes, there's bragging rights:)
It's nothing too serious, really. People are people and some of us just like new stuff
One of the things I love about SATA is the simple clean wiring, but it's not something I see done very well in most case mods. Anyone seen images or sites related to making a truly minimal case inside? Hidden or extremely tidy floppy, CD, power and drive cables? I'd love to see how others have handled their tidy up jobs.
Agreed. perhaps not in such harsh terms but hey, I agree all the same. Is there some inbuilt expectation that if you're in music, you're not successful unless you're exceptionally rich? It's a side effect of the social phenomenon of 'celebrity' that goes along with whether you make music, act, write, are a politician, famous scientist etc. It's all well and good when that's deserved fame that can be used to reach a wide audience (as say, stephen hawking) but not when it seems to be pushed as an entire reason to exist. Who the hell is Zsa Zsa Gabor anymore? she's famous for being famous.
Just a little thing I noticed. i thought the xserve was identical, but its cdrom now seems to be a slot loader, rather than a laptop-style-tray as it was before.
Is this really a cheap solution? I like apple stuff as much as the next obsessive (I can admit it:) but there's no hope in hell I could ever understand the high level above a personal workstation/computer.
To me 2.52TB is like a gigabyte would have been in the mid 80s. Far beyond even thinking about. I'm curious how it really matches to comparable hardware that's already out there, with respect to drive space, redundability(!) and connectivity.
Not having dollar notes here (australia) any more, I can't say - but it's still very common to come across the older style first-issue polymer $5 notes. They're running on to over 10 years old now. Occasionally the first-issue $10 polymer notes pop up, but as they were a first-off trial and a bit rarer, it's not so common. They date from 1988.
seems to be the x86 response to the PowerBook series
And with a name like Centrino, sounds like a response to the apple Centris series too.
But that was a dumb name that apple didn't keep around for long. I suspect within 6 months we'll see it renamed, and my dreams of a Quadra resurrection will be fulfilled
If I switch, the Microsoft area of my brain will atrophy and I'll won't be able to answer the tech questions and assistance asked of me by my friends and family.
That is EXACTLY what happened to me
It's bliss, really. Part of my job used to be Windows tech support, and while I knew it, trying to get a family member/friend/neighbour to do what they wanted on windows was horrible stuff. I wasn't doing something I enjoyed
I use linux and macs mainly, now. The macs that relatives have work simply and do what they need. the linux support is quite a bit less, but more often than not the people I know using linux are cluey enough to only need a poke in the right direction, instead of handholding through hours of crud. (yes, thats what I find crud. I know other people don't have a problem with it, but I'm just like that)
There's new iMacs too
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Please do submit this as an ask-slashdot. I'm in much the same boat, but with little training. I'm just very graphical, very interested in humancomputer interfaces, and it's just one of those things I'm known to rant on quite a bit by people who know me:).
I'd love to see the concept of good UI design kept in the forefront of the minds of the OSS community.
There's an extra character who was never seen in the original matrix. Instead of taking just one pill, she took the red pill, the blue pill, and had morpheus cook up a dozen other types.
Agreed - my chair wasn't up around $800, but it wasn't the cheapest & nastiest I could find either - it's just comfortable and suits my butt/back/knees fine:)
Macs are expensive, given, but I have to say that it is my prefered platform, and somthing that I am going to be spending so much time using, I won't use somthing that I don't prefer. It really is as simple as that
I find it rather interesting to see techs whose main criticism of a mac is its price, quoting the difference between a top G4 and a top PC they've built themselves, with price differences in the low few thousands...
...And then see them driving a $30,000 car they spend less than an hour in each day.
It's priorities. Occasionally I spend upwards of 10-14 hours a day in front of my mac. It gets -used-, it affects me, and I want to be comfortable with it.
They're already discovering just how they CAN make money on OSS, and it's not even in the quasi-traditional "support" line of business that people seem fixated on.
Oh mark this up as insightful!. Apple are leading in pop-kind-of-way the demonstration of "we're commercial, we also use open source". IBM have been doing the same with their support of linux, but for some reason it doesn't have the mass appeal of "Apple's using OSS and it's smooth! polished! slick!".
There's 2 things apple are giving the OSS community. Changes to OSS software projects themselves, and marketing! marketing! marketing!:)
I think you've summed it up well there. Opera on the macs I've used it on (400Mhz G3 with Jaguar, and a few G4/Dual G4s also with Jaguar) just doesn't compete. It's noticeably slower than IE, chimera and Safari, and featurewise doesn't offer anything I can't get on the other browsers.
That's not to say there aren't other people with needs that Opera addresses just perfectly, however.
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It's also a little more than just computers. I drove past my old school busstop on a quick trip through the neighbourhood one morning, just before work. One of those spur of the moment things.
:)
At the busstop were 5 schoolkids waiting for the bus - and at the time I went past EVERY one was on their cell phone, none talking to the other. (not face to face anyway, hell they could have all been on a party line to each other for all I know
While that's not a complete lack of human interaction, neither is a lot of computing. Networked gameplay, AIM/AOL/email/MSNmessenger/IRC, webcam chats, forums, newsgroups, slashdot... it's all a form of human-human interaction, and quite a bit bigger IMHO than just plain using a computer to interact with non-human objects.
No, I have no point - just a few comments inspired by your post.
How do you figure that the amiga used those icons before the mac, when the first amiga was released in 1985, more than a year after the first mac which used icons from the lisa, which was demonstrated in 1982, the GUI of which had been under development for 18 months already; Before hi-toro existed, even.
Screwy Amiga-user revisionism
Buy a laptop and take off the base. ta-dah, problem solved!. You have a flat-panel monitor AND a small headless server.
:)
Of course, you do then need to make the interface to connect the flat panel to something useful, but thats where the fun comes into it
Absolutely!. Incredibly impractical with current tech, probably highly expensive, and a bit pointless for 99% of users. But utterly cool all the same
Does being an early adopter really have much benefit besides bragging rights?
:)
Curiosity. Somewhat like nabbing and installing a beta copy of some software and checking out where it's at. If I had the cash and felt the satisfaction of my own curiosity was worth it, I'd have a few SATA drives running, just for the hell of it.
It gives some geektypes something to talk about, ponder over, and throw opinions around on where stuff's heading.
Then yes, there's bragging rights
It's nothing too serious, really. People are people and some of us just like new stuff
One of the things I love about SATA is the simple clean wiring, but it's not something I see done very well in most case mods. Anyone seen images or sites related to making a truly minimal case inside? Hidden or extremely tidy floppy, CD, power and drive cables? I'd love to see how others have handled their tidy up jobs.
Tetris is so unrealistic too.
4 billion times lots ought to be enough for anybody.
Uhhh it comes up as light grey on black for me. I suggest you change your browsers.
Agreed. perhaps not in such harsh terms but hey, I agree all the same. Is there some inbuilt expectation that if you're in music, you're not successful unless you're exceptionally rich? It's a side effect of the social phenomenon of 'celebrity' that goes along with whether you make music, act, write, are a politician, famous scientist etc. It's all well and good when that's deserved fame that can be used to reach a wide audience (as say, stephen hawking) but not when it seems to be pushed as an entire reason to exist. Who the hell is Zsa Zsa Gabor anymore? she's famous for being famous.
:)
(way off topic rant sorry. ignore this post
Yes, it's changed recently.
For quite a while it was "The way skriptkiddies interact with people's PCs is a key component of development at Microsoft"
Just a little thing I noticed. i thought the xserve was identical, but its cdrom now seems to be a slot loader, rather than a laptop-style-tray as it was before.
:)
small things amuse... etc
Is this really a cheap solution? I like apple stuff as much as the next obsessive (I can admit it :) but there's no hope in hell I could ever understand the high level above a personal workstation/computer.
To me 2.52TB is like a gigabyte would have been in the mid 80s. Far beyond even thinking about. I'm curious how it really matches to comparable hardware that's already out there, with respect to drive space, redundability(!) and connectivity.
What's the oldest dollar in your wallet?
Not having dollar notes here (australia) any more, I can't say - but it's still very common to come across the older style first-issue polymer $5 notes. They're running on to over 10 years old now. Occasionally the first-issue $10 polymer notes pop up, but as they were a first-off trial and a bit rarer, it's not so common. They date from 1988.
This is the third time you've posted this
Quick - someone submit it again. see if we can't get to 4...
seems to be the x86 response to the PowerBook series
And with a name like Centrino, sounds like a response to the apple Centris series too.
But that was a dumb name that apple didn't keep around for long. I suspect within 6 months we'll see it renamed, and my dreams of a Quadra resurrection will be fulfilled
muahahaha!
If I switch, the Microsoft area of my brain will atrophy and I'll won't be able to answer the tech questions and assistance asked of me by my friends and family.
That is EXACTLY what happened to me
It's bliss, really. Part of my job used to be Windows tech support, and while I knew it, trying to get a family member/friend/neighbour to do what they wanted on windows was horrible stuff. I wasn't doing something I enjoyed
I use linux and macs mainly, now. The macs that relatives have work simply and do what they need. the linux support is quite a bit less, but more often than not the people I know using linux are cluey enough to only need a poke in the right direction, instead of handholding through hours of crud. (yes, thats what I find crud. I know other people don't have a problem with it, but I'm just like that)
Ghz ones, even.
w00t, or something.
Please do submit this as an ask-slashdot. I'm in much the same boat, but with little training. I'm just very graphical, very interested in humancomputer interfaces, and it's just one of those things I'm known to rant on quite a bit by people who know me :).
I'd love to see the concept of good UI design kept in the forefront of the minds of the OSS community.
There's an extra character who was never seen in the original matrix. Instead of taking just one pill, she took the red pill, the blue pill, and had morpheus cook up a dozen other types.
Picture here
Agreed - my chair wasn't up around $800, but it wasn't the cheapest & nastiest I could find either - it's just comfortable and suits my butt/back/knees fine :)
If they're the typical prepubescent teen h4>0r, they'll make it give rude gestures or masturbate over afghanistan or something.
Macs are expensive, given, but I have to say that it is my prefered platform, and somthing that I am going to be spending so much time using, I won't use somthing that I don't prefer. It really is as simple as that
...And then see them driving a $30,000 car they spend less than an hour in each day.
I find it rather interesting to see techs whose main criticism of a mac is its price, quoting the difference between a top G4 and a top PC they've built themselves, with price differences in the low few thousands...
It's priorities. Occasionally I spend upwards of 10-14 hours a day in front of my mac. It gets -used-, it affects me, and I want to be comfortable with it.
They're already discovering just how they CAN make money on OSS, and it's not even in the quasi-traditional "support" line of business that people seem fixated on.
:)
Oh mark this up as insightful!. Apple are leading in pop-kind-of-way the demonstration of "we're commercial, we also use open source". IBM have been doing the same with their support of linux, but for some reason it doesn't have the mass appeal of "Apple's using OSS and it's smooth! polished! slick!".
There's 2 things apple are giving the OSS community. Changes to OSS software projects themselves, and marketing! marketing! marketing!
I think you've summed it up well there. Opera on the macs I've used it on (400Mhz G3 with Jaguar, and a few G4/Dual G4s also with Jaguar) just doesn't compete. It's noticeably slower than IE, chimera and Safari, and featurewise doesn't offer anything I can't get on the other browsers.
That's not to say there aren't other people with needs that Opera addresses just perfectly, however.