Sorry for my posting that article. It seems as if all the news sources were entirely wrong about the whole thing.
Surprising that we've still got a hope for this sort of PDA from Apple, but apparently they aren't listening to their customer base.
I totally agree, it seems that driving is now becoming a luxury instead of a seious thing that people focus on, that is why we have to have speed limits in america. America is worst for this in my opinion, it is discusting, seeing these fat american people smoking, eating, talking on cell phones, talking to friends in the car, all at the same time. It is a discusting thing to see, it makes me think of all the greasy looking people on invader zim.
Nathan isn't going to like this, it might make him anti mac, as you can see here, Nathan of the infamous toasty tech HATES brower intergration, and it said it will be FULLY INTERGRATED INTO OSX.
Keyboards are much faster if you have even a single week of sitting down trying to learn them (assuming you've never used a keyboard before).
Secondly, the only ideal solution to this would be to make the screen touch sensitive with normal fingers (instead of the Wacom pen sort of thing) and allow it to generate an on-screen keyboard which can be touched with said fingers just as a normal keyboard.
Assuming you keep this portion of the screen in clean condition it would work perfectly--assuming it isn't patented already. (see alse: swinging sideways)
The Newton was incredibly powerful for its age. The form factor was perfect for the reasons of readability, larger software size (as far as how much usability they can pack into one window) and to top it all of the thing had a rechargable battery -- something Palm didn't do for a long time.
There is no techniocal reason why OS X can't run on TabletPC hardware --except Classic, of course. Imagine: Cocoa, Carbon, Darwin, not to mention QuickTime all runing on a TabletPC with Intel Inside.
If apple made a tablet pc, type of thing, it would use their PPC processor, not an intel one. This is not only cool, it's a step towards a new-and-improved hardware-independent Apple.
Steve Jobs himself said that they would never put OSX/aqua on the x86 platform himself. The only danger I see is that if it's released for TabletPC, it will be bootlegged and running on a standard wintel box in no time.
See first comment, by tabletpc, they mean their own design/their own platform.
this would be a very logical move for apple.
They have all of the software and equipment necessary to do it:
Low End G3 Processors
Small LCD Screens
Ink Well handwriting recognition
iSync
the iPod's peculiar architecture (in that it was put together by multiple companies)
and of course their head-strong approach to wireless
As you can see, this is the perfect sector for Apple, something that Microsoft can't even do effectively. If they could take the compact design and 3rd party composition of the iPod and mix it with the light weight power of the iBook and the handwriting of Inkwell they're in a very good position to start bargaining for the tablet architecture.
They just need to know how to market it, and as we've seen: they know how to do that.
"Supposed" by who? If I own the bloody box I can damn well do anything I please with it, including prying out chips, soldering in different ones, and running any software I want (I don't own an XBox, of course).
The thing you are not understanding is that you are not buying a big box and silicon chips, you are also buying a liscence to that software. Not all software liscences for an operating system say you have the right to develop for that platform for free. The idea of video game software is different than pc software. The company who manufactures the console makes money from games by making the developers pay royalties, otherwise, there is almost no motivation, since they loose money on every Xbox they sell, but reclaim that in royalties from developers.
People act like microsoft is the bad guys in this situation, but why don't they just buy a liscence to make Linux on XBox? It seems the LinuXbox developers would be the bad guys for developing software on a platform you are susposed to pay royalies on for. Of course, this stirs of lots of things, and just because the platform isn't a free platform where anything can be developed on for free, doesn't make it right to develop for it anyways. It is just a Pentium III with a geforce card in it anyways, why bother with it? I don't see this post as flaimbait, it is just laying out some facts.
As I pointed it out on the subject - no need to buy that expensive Apple hardware any more! THAT is the really great thing about this.. open solutions, no proprietary shit.
It still requires that you have a PPC processor, so it just does software emulation, and not hardware emulation. So you STILL have to buy the expensive hardware.
Our school has these on their computers that are new, they still make keyboards like that, and the click noise does make typing more enjoyable for some reason. They still make these, I think that they were by Accent Systems or somthing.
You seem to have forgotten that Windows is designed for idiots. If anyone truely wants to use their computer they need to to one or more of the following:
1) Try and break it, the best way to understand something is to stress it to the point of where you know its limitations and what you can do with it (when I got my iPod last night that was the first thing I did, crack open some open source software made to use it and I threw MusicMatch away, sure I formatted the thing 7 times but it works now and I don't have to use a bloated piece of software designed for idiots to use it).
2) Read a book. That's right, crack open a book and read about the thing. If people would just attempt to learn about how to use their computer properly we wouldn't have 10 million people using Bonzi Buddy because some advertisement told them they need to download it or "click here."
3) Use the thing and don't worry about the consequences. If I was paranoid (as many people I know are) about how I use my computer I wouldn't be as knowledgable as I am now. I know 11 programming languages and can administer this thing like no one else, but I wouldn't have gotten there if I would have just accepted things as they are. People are just too complacent about computers, they need to learn that there are better options and truely educate themselves before they make a decision. Sure XP and 2k are fairly easy to use and fairly stable for the home user, but does the home user know that if they plug it into a DSL line or another ISP that works as a home network their whole hard drive is visible because of the default shares? Do they know that they are bound to get viruses and not even know about it for months? Do they know that if they forget their password the entire computer is rendered unusable?
NO!
People don't know this. They don't understand computers and that is why we are seeing the move to portable devices that perform one or two functions. People are capable of doing that. They can understand 2 buttons to turn on their CD player and 2 buttons to turn on and answer their cell phone. In the future Microsoft won't even have end-users to target with their software because it will be so integrated into every device. Your fridge will keep it's own spreadsheet of all your groceries. Your microwave will have a database of cook times. Your door bathroom mirror will keep track of your to-do list for the day. Things like these are how the future looks and Microsoft's current offerings don't fit into any of it.
Perhaps if the hardware makers would stop looking to M$ for software then M$ cauld stand on it's own two feet and try to inovate. But because we're stuck in this mode where one device has to do everything for us, Microsoft has no other choice but to continue stealing and copying from every other piece of software out there. Not only are they competative, but they do it without market research or much of a design team because it's already been done. They just have to copy and re-code. And that is exactly what is happening with this new shell. They took all the things from the other operating systems that make them so powerful and are moving it to their own because they know that administators like it and they already have a good idea of how it works.
This is only the beginning of the technological and internet revolution, there is still much more to come. The internet will be perfected when contact lenses act as monitors, connect to the net, with voice recognition, and are disposable.
I never thought this would be sunk into so deep, and I never thought it would warrent a (-1, Troll). People think I am being rasict, but I am not, I am not saying if I am mexican, african, indian, white, or chinese. I just think it is wrong how some companies *cough* microsoft *cough* are paying for people to come from other countries, then allowing them to work for less than Americans, because they are coming from a place where they make alot less money anyways, it is taking advantage of Indians, and it is hurting our economy and workforce by allowing them to work in India after being trained in the United States (even at the companies expence at times). This is not about quality of work, microsoft is hiring all these Indian programmers, and I don't see quality work coming from there. This is also a concern for most of western europe, and other "developed" countries. This is not about the USA being the "biggest and baddest" either, they are not. This discussion could go on and on, maybe I should host a place just for discussing it.
Does it seem like every IT person in America is loosing their jobs to people in india now? It is bad enough everyone in Mexico is stealing our work, now India. I think they need to put Tarrifs on all incoming code to America or somthing, I know it sounds bad, we lost our jobs because of stuff like NAFTA, now it is happening with IT too. I also hear of companies paying for scholarships by using students code in their programs. We are letting people take advantage of us, the GNU/GPL are making us more vulerable to stolen code, how can we profit if people are stealing our work out from under out feet?
It is like the government wants us to have no privacy at all, first tracking our internet connections, now we can't make anonymous calls, next they will get rid of public mailboxes! Somtimes it is nice to have a little privacy, at least UK ISPs said they won't spy. I wish we had a bill of rights or somthing in America. I am 15, if I have children, I don't want them to ask me, "Dad, how come the government watches us 24/7?". I also hope I don't have children in the forseeable future:)
We use the AR program at our school, except that it is required you use it. You take a test at the beginning of the year, and based on how good you do on that test, is how many AR points you have to have. This is turning reading into a punishment for us I think. I read on my own all the time, I enjoy reading and solving problems, that is why I spend alot of time on my PC at home. I think that using computers in the classroom can be a waste of time, nothing ever gets done, and all people do it vandalize the computers "net send * you suck" as my friend told me the other day. I think AR can be a good thing if used properly, but making it a requirement can make reading seem like punishment to some, just like writing can be a punishment (as I wrote on oldcameltoe.com/preston about my SS football coach teacher making me write 1000 words for no reason). I think computers should be an extra thing, and that teachers need to lecutre more. Computers can work in education, if they are used properly, and if the extra work with them is a reward and not a requirement.
I remember my birth, it was painful and my entire body felt like it was stinging and everything was very bright white, and loud (like acid?). I also remember being a baby, and my mom would hold my hands trying to get me to walk. I don't remember much, but I do remember some things of early childhood. Does anyone else remember things from when you were that young? I am 15 now.
I know that you can permanatly damage your eyes with a lazer from a CD burner, but with it reading, it is only temporary. I know someone who did it, and they see a scratch everywhere they look. They might have been lieing, but I thought it was interesting. Think the 16x DVD-R would make you blind maybe?
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Sorry for my posting that article. It seems as if all the news sources were entirely wrong about the whole thing. Surprising that we've still got a hope for this sort of PDA from Apple, but apparently they aren't listening to their customer base.
I totally agree, it seems that driving is now becoming a luxury instead of a seious thing that people focus on, that is why we have to have speed limits in america. America is worst for this in my opinion, it is discusting, seeing these fat american people smoking, eating, talking on cell phones, talking to friends in the car, all at the same time. It is a discusting thing to see, it makes me think of all the greasy looking people on invader zim.
He is really smart, but that is what makes it FUNNY
Nathan isn't going to like this, it might make him anti mac, as you can see here, Nathan of the infamous toasty tech HATES brower intergration, and it said it will be FULLY INTERGRATED INTO OSX.
Keyboards are much faster if you have even a single week of sitting down trying to learn them (assuming you've never used a keyboard before). Secondly, the only ideal solution to this would be to make the screen touch sensitive with normal fingers (instead of the Wacom pen sort of thing) and allow it to generate an on-screen keyboard which can be touched with said fingers just as a normal keyboard. Assuming you keep this portion of the screen in clean condition it would work perfectly--assuming it isn't patented already. (see alse: swinging sideways)
The Newton was incredibly powerful for its age. The form factor was perfect for the reasons of readability, larger software size (as far as how much usability they can pack into one window) and to top it all of the thing had a rechargable battery -- something Palm didn't do for a long time.
There is no techniocal reason why OS X can't run on TabletPC hardware --except Classic, of course. Imagine: Cocoa, Carbon, Darwin, not to mention QuickTime all runing on a TabletPC with Intel Inside.
If apple made a tablet pc, type of thing, it would use their PPC processor, not an intel one.
This is not only cool, it's a step towards a new-and-improved hardware-independent Apple.
Steve Jobs himself said that they would never put OSX/aqua on the x86 platform himself.
The only danger I see is that if it's released for TabletPC, it will be bootlegged and running on a standard wintel box in no time.
See first comment, by tabletpc, they mean their own design/their own platform.
this would be a very logical move for apple. They have all of the software and equipment necessary to do it: Low End G3 Processors Small LCD Screens Ink Well handwriting recognition iSync the iPod's peculiar architecture (in that it was put together by multiple companies) and of course their head-strong approach to wireless As you can see, this is the perfect sector for Apple, something that Microsoft can't even do effectively. If they could take the compact design and 3rd party composition of the iPod and mix it with the light weight power of the iBook and the handwriting of Inkwell they're in a very good position to start bargaining for the tablet architecture. They just need to know how to market it, and as we've seen: they know how to do that.
[this is Nolte, not Preston -- the original poster of the previous comment] I almost puked when I read your signature. That is all.
"Supposed" by who? If I own the bloody box I can damn well do anything I please with it, including prying out chips, soldering in different ones, and running any software I want (I don't own an XBox, of course). The thing you are not understanding is that you are not buying a big box and silicon chips, you are also buying a liscence to that software. Not all software liscences for an operating system say you have the right to develop for that platform for free. The idea of video game software is different than pc software. The company who manufactures the console makes money from games by making the developers pay royalties, otherwise, there is almost no motivation, since they loose money on every Xbox they sell, but reclaim that in royalties from developers.
People act like microsoft is the bad guys in this situation, but why don't they just buy a liscence to make Linux on XBox? It seems the LinuXbox developers would be the bad guys for developing software on a platform you are susposed to pay royalies on for. Of course, this stirs of lots of things, and just because the platform isn't a free platform where anything can be developed on for free, doesn't make it right to develop for it anyways. It is just a Pentium III with a geforce card in it anyways, why bother with it? I don't see this post as flaimbait, it is just laying out some facts.
As I pointed it out on the subject - no need to buy that expensive Apple hardware any more! THAT is the really great thing about this.. open solutions, no proprietary shit.
It still requires that you have a PPC processor, so it just does software emulation, and not hardware emulation. So you STILL have to buy the expensive hardware.
These can come in handy when we are trying to build our own nuclear fusor
Our school has these on their computers that are new, they still make keyboards like that, and the click noise does make typing more enjoyable for some reason. They still make these, I think that they were by Accent Systems or somthing.
You seem to have forgotten that Windows is designed for idiots. If anyone truely wants to use their computer they need to to one or more of the following: 1) Try and break it, the best way to understand something is to stress it to the point of where you know its limitations and what you can do with it (when I got my iPod last night that was the first thing I did, crack open some open source software made to use it and I threw MusicMatch away, sure I formatted the thing 7 times but it works now and I don't have to use a bloated piece of software designed for idiots to use it). 2) Read a book. That's right, crack open a book and read about the thing. If people would just attempt to learn about how to use their computer properly we wouldn't have 10 million people using Bonzi Buddy because some advertisement told them they need to download it or "click here." 3) Use the thing and don't worry about the consequences. If I was paranoid (as many people I know are) about how I use my computer I wouldn't be as knowledgable as I am now. I know 11 programming languages and can administer this thing like no one else, but I wouldn't have gotten there if I would have just accepted things as they are. People are just too complacent about computers, they need to learn that there are better options and truely educate themselves before they make a decision. Sure XP and 2k are fairly easy to use and fairly stable for the home user, but does the home user know that if they plug it into a DSL line or another ISP that works as a home network their whole hard drive is visible because of the default shares? Do they know that they are bound to get viruses and not even know about it for months? Do they know that if they forget their password the entire computer is rendered unusable? NO! People don't know this. They don't understand computers and that is why we are seeing the move to portable devices that perform one or two functions. People are capable of doing that. They can understand 2 buttons to turn on their CD player and 2 buttons to turn on and answer their cell phone. In the future Microsoft won't even have end-users to target with their software because it will be so integrated into every device. Your fridge will keep it's own spreadsheet of all your groceries. Your microwave will have a database of cook times. Your door bathroom mirror will keep track of your to-do list for the day. Things like these are how the future looks and Microsoft's current offerings don't fit into any of it. Perhaps if the hardware makers would stop looking to M$ for software then M$ cauld stand on it's own two feet and try to inovate. But because we're stuck in this mode where one device has to do everything for us, Microsoft has no other choice but to continue stealing and copying from every other piece of software out there. Not only are they competative, but they do it without market research or much of a design team because it's already been done. They just have to copy and re-code. And that is exactly what is happening with this new shell. They took all the things from the other operating systems that make them so powerful and are moving it to their own because they know that administators like it and they already have a good idea of how it works.
Maybe when the internet turns 21, google will advertise for alcohol. It is 18, so pr0n is ok.
This is only the beginning of the technological and internet revolution, there is still much more to come. The internet will be perfected when contact lenses act as monitors, connect to the net, with voice recognition, and are disposable.
I never thought this would be sunk into so deep, and I never thought it would warrent a (-1, Troll). People think I am being rasict, but I am not, I am not saying if I am mexican, african, indian, white, or chinese. I just think it is wrong how some companies *cough* microsoft *cough* are paying for people to come from other countries, then allowing them to work for less than Americans, because they are coming from a place where they make alot less money anyways, it is taking advantage of Indians, and it is hurting our economy and workforce by allowing them to work in India after being trained in the United States (even at the companies expence at times). This is not about quality of work, microsoft is hiring all these Indian programmers, and I don't see quality work coming from there. This is also a concern for most of western europe, and other "developed" countries. This is not about the USA being the "biggest and baddest" either, they are not. This discussion could go on and on, maybe I should host a place just for discussing it.
Does it seem like every IT person in America is loosing their jobs to people in india now? It is bad enough everyone in Mexico is stealing our work, now India. I think they need to put Tarrifs on all incoming code to America or somthing, I know it sounds bad, we lost our jobs because of stuff like NAFTA, now it is happening with IT too. I also hear of companies paying for scholarships by using students code in their programs. We are letting people take advantage of us, the GNU/GPL are making us more vulerable to stolen code, how can we profit if people are stealing our work out from under out feet?
It is like the government wants us to have no privacy at all, first tracking our internet connections, now we can't make anonymous calls, next they will get rid of public mailboxes! Somtimes it is nice to have a little privacy, at least UK ISPs said they won't spy. I wish we had a bill of rights or somthing in America. I am 15, if I have children, I don't want them to ask me, "Dad, how come the government watches us 24/7?". I also hope I don't have children in the forseeable future :)
We use the AR program at our school, except that it is required you use it. You take a test at the beginning of the year, and based on how good you do on that test, is how many AR points you have to have. This is turning reading into a punishment for us I think. I read on my own all the time, I enjoy reading and solving problems, that is why I spend alot of time on my PC at home. I think that using computers in the classroom can be a waste of time, nothing ever gets done, and all people do it vandalize the computers "net send * you suck" as my friend told me the other day. I think AR can be a good thing if used properly, but making it a requirement can make reading seem like punishment to some, just like writing can be a punishment (as I wrote on oldcameltoe.com/preston about my SS football coach teacher making me write 1000 words for no reason). I think computers should be an extra thing, and that teachers need to lecutre more. Computers can work in education, if they are used properly, and if the extra work with them is a reward and not a requirement.
It was 4mb of RAM in a PackardBell 4x86 66mhz.
Wait.... Are those folicles growing on my palm? AAAA!!!
I remember my birth, it was painful and my entire body felt like it was stinging and everything was very bright white, and loud (like acid?). I also remember being a baby, and my mom would hold my hands trying to get me to walk. I don't remember much, but I do remember some things of early childhood. Does anyone else remember things from when you were that young? I am 15 now.
I know that you can permanatly damage your eyes with a lazer from a CD burner, but with it reading, it is only temporary. I know someone who did it, and they see a scratch everywhere they look. They might have been lieing, but I thought it was interesting. Think the 16x DVD-R would make you blind maybe?