Assuming those terms are fair I would agree with you. Say you want to buy a house, and the terms of the sale specify that you can never allow any "people of color" to enter that house. Ever. Your choice is either to buy that house and accept those terms, or buy something else. Maybe a harmonica. You say that you could buy a different house? Well, there are only 5 sources in the world for houses now, and they all specify those same terms.
Given those circumstances I think a lot of people would be building their OWN houses. Kind of like the way a lot of people are now burning their own cd's.
When you buy a DVD you are buying the media AND the right to watch it. When the DVD is damaged, you still have the right to watch, although now it's unwatchable. Your money bought you both a tangible and an intangible product. You make a backup you are only protecting your right to the intangible product that you paid for.
If jack valenti or anyone else wants to deprive you of that right they are stealing from you.
I don't know when the systems of the world shifted to the point where consumers stealing from companies are criminal but companies stealing from consumers is just plain good business, but I for one don't like it. But who knows, maybe my opinion would change if I was on the other end of all this stealing.:/
how long before the system is hacked, and you can download highly optimized driving profiles ready to upload to your insurance company right off the web.:)
Given his emphasis on profits over, well, pretty much anything else in the world, has anyone taken action to test Orrin to verify that he is actually well, HUMAN? I can't help but think he might actually be a cleverly disguised Ferengi. Please see http://www.dmwright.com/html/ferengi.htm and tell me if I am completely off base with this concern.
Why stop there, why not just eliminate children altogether? Then the entire country could eventually be populated by short-sighted OLD FARTS like Orrin Hatch who could sell out the country without those nagging and inconvenient issues like "What effects are my corrupt actions going to have on future generations?".
Orrin Hatch is just one member of my list of people that would make the world a better place by simply changing location to roughly six feet closer to its center.
Actually I have seen the combination/crossover devices but see one problem with them. Compare any of those to my phone (basically free after rebate when I signed up for service) and my PDA which was about $200. I've never seen a good combination phone/PPC for anything like that price. And With a combination device, when it dies it's dead. With separates if one dies I can still either call someone and complain or play a game of Hot Death Uno.
Well, I use my PDA to read books and would think a phone would be a really poor reader given the small screen and smaller battery life. Personally, I don't find carrying a PDA in my shirt pocket and a cell phone on my hip to be that cumbersome.
So, my choice is either to purchace an expensive new proprietary player and then buy music that is severely limited in how I can use it, else use the hardware I have now and download from the net?
Huh, pay lots of money and screw myself, or go the free route and live a happy life.
Why am I always confronted with choices like this?
The Amiga still lives, and it's not gonna die without a fight
Kind of reminds me of that knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. The one that keeps taunting the King even as his limbs are being hacked off. Yeah, Amiga won't die.:P
Pity they didn't do something interesting 15 years ago when it might have mattered. I really liked my 2000.:(
Since the name "Lindows" is off limits, how about another name for something you can look through. I suggest they change the name to "Gates". I can't see how M$ could object to that, it contains no "W"'s or "indows" at all.
Sounds like just another reason to stick with the tvs I already have.
What the hay, they all look just fine to me anyway. Especially when viewing DVDs.
YOu know, I thought that would be totally true. But I bought a PDA and found that I actually like reading books on it. Page flips almost become transparent, where the same on a physical book is a conscious act. Also, the screen is lit which makes reading much easier in unlit or lowlit situations.
Where I would find this perfect is if there was a place to aquire books that are out of print. Maybe instead of letting out of print books rot until the copyright runs out there could be a clearinghouse where they could be released as eBooks for a small fee?
So the choice is to either buy cd's that may be crippled and have absolutely no recourse, or to download music. Pay and have something that MAY work, or get it for free and easily copy it to my mp3 player or play it on an Amiga.
This is freekin' me out. I'm way more used to getting free limited use demo's and then paying to get the version that has all the features.:/
Well I think of it as selling a key to fit a lock that I bought. I don't like buying anything that I can't back up. But sometimes that can't be avoided. Makes me feel kind of stupid when I download a hack of a program to try it out, find that I like it a lot and buy it. Then end up using the friggin' crack version because of the copy protection on the one I paid for.
If each song available for download is worth from $750-150,000, why are the music companies not being charged equivalent amount for each cd they have sold over the years at prices inflated through pricefixing?
File sharers profited nothing through sharing, where the music companies reaped HUGE returns through price fixing and that continues today unabated.
That is what the government should be looking into. If anyone is stealing, it is the music industry itself.
Add to that, how much of what is within the products of M$ was borrowed from other sources? I know they've been caught at it more than once, how much more code is still there owing it's existance to other than M$ programmers?
Every site on the planet that is harrassed by SBC should replace the frames with a small announcement declaring that this site would be totally bitchen cool, if not for the blatant blackmail tactics of SBC. Second hand patents should be torn up. Companies should not be able to aquire them like baseball cards.
If you do business with SBC, switch! Tell your friends, tell your family. SBC SUCKS!
What about the cave drawings, aren't the decendants of those cave dwellers due money for the display of those stick figures and any works based on them? Where does all of this frelling end? Copyright should run for a REASONABLE amount of time. Say seven years. At that point this "art" should be tossed back into the intellectual genepool to be reused. The current system is strangling innovation.
Where does all that money go?
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It can't take much to produce the crap that is coming from the music studios these days. The only thing I can think of that has any real costs is all that coke going up the music exec's noses. They expect you to pay ~$20 for a cd, to hear one song? The rest of the disk filled with filler material? No thanks! I PAID for that song when I went to the bar and paid $6 for a drink! I paid for it by listening to four hours of crap music on the radio, just to hear one song that DIDN'T suck too much! If the industry wants to kill p2p, big deal! It will just make the next new and better thing pop up to take its' place. They have a product that people like, we like to be entertained. But as long as they use that carrot to screw their customers there will be some form of resistance.
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Assuming those terms are fair I would agree with you. Say you want to buy a house, and the terms of the sale specify that you can never allow any "people of color" to enter that house. Ever. Your choice is either to buy that house and accept those terms, or buy something else. Maybe a harmonica. You say that you could buy a different house? Well, there are only 5 sources in the world for houses now, and they all specify those same terms. Given those circumstances I think a lot of people would be building their OWN houses. Kind of like the way a lot of people are now burning their own cd's.
When you buy a DVD you are buying the media AND the right to watch it. When the DVD is damaged, you still have the right to watch, although now it's unwatchable. Your money bought you both a tangible and an intangible product. You make a backup you are only protecting your right to the intangible product that you paid for. If jack valenti or anyone else wants to deprive you of that right they are stealing from you. I don't know when the systems of the world shifted to the point where consumers stealing from companies are criminal but companies stealing from consumers is just plain good business, but I for one don't like it. But who knows, maybe my opinion would change if I was on the other end of all this stealing. :/
Didn't they "pirate" that acronym from the Boy Scouts of America?
how long before the system is hacked, and you can download highly optimized driving profiles ready to upload to your insurance company right off the web. :)
Given his emphasis on profits over, well, pretty much anything else in the world, has anyone taken action to test Orrin to verify that he is actually well, HUMAN? I can't help but think he might actually be a cleverly disguised Ferengi. Please see http://www.dmwright.com/html/ferengi.htm and tell me if I am completely off base with this concern.
Why stop there, why not just eliminate children altogether? Then the entire country could eventually be populated by short-sighted OLD FARTS like Orrin Hatch who could sell out the country without those nagging and inconvenient issues like "What effects are my corrupt actions going to have on future generations?".
Orrin Hatch is just one member of my list of people that would make the world a better place by simply changing location to roughly six feet closer to its center.
Actually I have seen the combination/crossover devices but see one problem with them. Compare any of those to my phone (basically free after rebate when I signed up for service) and my PDA which was about $200. I've never seen a good combination phone/PPC for anything like that price. And With a combination device, when it dies it's dead. With separates if one dies I can still either call someone and complain or play a game of Hot Death Uno.
Well, I use my PDA to read books and would think a phone would be a really poor reader given the small screen and smaller battery life. Personally, I don't find carrying a PDA in my shirt pocket and a cell phone on my hip to be that cumbersome.
So, my choice is either to purchace an expensive new proprietary player and then buy music that is severely limited in how I can use it, else use the hardware I have now and download from the net? Huh, pay lots of money and screw myself, or go the free route and live a happy life. Why am I always confronted with choices like this?
Kind of reminds me of that knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. The one that keeps taunting the King even as his limbs are being hacked off. Yeah, Amiga won't die. :P
Pity they didn't do something interesting 15 years ago when it might have mattered. I really liked my 2000. :(
Since the name "Lindows" is off limits, how about another name for something you can look through. I suggest they change the name to "Gates". I can't see how M$ could object to that, it contains no "W"'s or "indows" at all.
Extortion? I prefer to think of it as state sponsored terrorism. Oooops, does that make America a terrorist state? Huh, I guess it does. :/
Sounds like just another reason to stick with the tvs I already have. What the hay, they all look just fine to me anyway. Especially when viewing DVDs.
The report was full of "flaws in both design and execution"? Maybe it was done by the same teams that ordinarily are involved with their products?
YOu know, I thought that would be totally true. But I bought a PDA and found that I actually like reading books on it. Page flips almost become transparent, where the same on a physical book is a conscious act. Also, the screen is lit which makes reading much easier in unlit or lowlit situations. Where I would find this perfect is if there was a place to aquire books that are out of print. Maybe instead of letting out of print books rot until the copyright runs out there could be a clearinghouse where they could be released as eBooks for a small fee?
Who has SCO been sleeping with? One hint, it is really really small, and soft. And has the initials Bill Gates.
So the choice is to either buy cd's that may be crippled and have absolutely no recourse, or to download music. Pay and have something that MAY work, or get it for free and easily copy it to my mp3 player or play it on an Amiga. This is freekin' me out. I'm way more used to getting free limited use demo's and then paying to get the version that has all the features. :/
This must be what Bill G. and M$ got for that cash they paid out to SCO recently. :P
Well I think of it as selling a key to fit a lock that I bought. I don't like buying anything that I can't back up. But sometimes that can't be avoided. Makes me feel kind of stupid when I download a hack of a program to try it out, find that I like it a lot and buy it. Then end up using the friggin' crack version because of the copy protection on the one I paid for.
If each song available for download is worth from $750-150,000, why are the music companies not being charged equivalent amount for each cd they have sold over the years at prices inflated through pricefixing? File sharers profited nothing through sharing, where the music companies reaped HUGE returns through price fixing and that continues today unabated. That is what the government should be looking into. If anyone is stealing, it is the music industry itself.
Add to that, how much of what is within the products of M$ was borrowed from other sources? I know they've been caught at it more than once, how much more code is still there owing it's existance to other than M$ programmers?
Every site on the planet that is harrassed by SBC should replace the frames with a small announcement declaring that this site would be totally bitchen cool, if not for the blatant blackmail tactics of SBC. Second hand patents should be torn up. Companies should not be able to aquire them like baseball cards. If you do business with SBC, switch! Tell your friends, tell your family. SBC SUCKS!
before the California media moguls will be shipped to Iran to face beheadings for making movies and music that does not conform to the laws of Islam?
What about the cave drawings, aren't the decendants of those cave dwellers due money for the display of those stick figures and any works based on them? Where does all of this frelling end? Copyright should run for a REASONABLE amount of time. Say seven years. At that point this "art" should be tossed back into the intellectual genepool to be reused. The current system is strangling innovation.
It can't take much to produce the crap that is coming from the music studios these days. The only thing I can think of that has any real costs is all that coke going up the music exec's noses. They expect you to pay ~$20 for a cd, to hear one song? The rest of the disk filled with filler material? No thanks! I PAID for that song when I went to the bar and paid $6 for a drink! I paid for it by listening to four hours of crap music on the radio, just to hear one song that DIDN'T suck too much! If the industry wants to kill p2p, big deal! It will just make the next new and better thing pop up to take its' place. They have a product that people like, we like to be entertained. But as long as they use that carrot to screw their customers there will be some form of resistance.