SCO is distributing the entire bleepin' KERNEL under the terms of the GPL. That's the real point of this -- they are saying their precioussssss is in the Linux kernel against their will, yet until recently they were allowing unrestricted access to their FTP server for anyone who wanted to download the kernel, and are still to the best of my knowledge offering the kernel for updates for anyone who has previously received a copy of their Linux distribution. And guess what? The GPL is ALL OVER that kernel, so even if their precioussssss is in the kernel, they distributed it under the GPL for anyone to use according to its terms. Game, set, match.
They will try to convince the court that they did it unknowingly, or that they didn't know what they were getting into, or some such whitewash. Don't believe it. For a very long time, both as Caldera and after they became the pod-people SCO, they were trumpeting the advantages that Linux would bring you as their customer.
As for GPL code in Unixware . . . there is some speculation that there is GPL code in their Linux Personality Module for Unixware, but that's all it is -- speculation. Someone smarter than me would have to determine whether there really is.
Albums predate the LP. You're right about songs being under three minutes in the days of the 78, but back then you could buy an "album" of six double-sided 78s. It looked a lot like a photograph album, hence the name.
And yes, we have "albums" today because That's The Way We've Always Done It. With digital music there's nothing to stop artists from releasing their songs one at a time if they like, but I suspect a lot of them will still release CDs for the time being because they and we have grown comfortable with the format.
Marconi didn't invent the radio. Most people will admit that. What Marconi did was prove that you could use it as something other than a local curiosity, to send signals outside your back yard and indeed across an ocean.
This was a very important discovery for the time because once a ship was out of the harbor and out of sight of land it was cut off from the rest of the world, other than communications with other passing ships. Radio allowed ships at sea to communicate with land stations and each other. In fact in the United States, wireless came under the control of the Navy Department in its early years.
However, despite some dramatic rescues out of sight of land where ships in distress were able to use radio to signal for help, it wasn't until after the sinking of the Titanic that ships were required to carry wireless equipment.
It's not only that. Performers and the RIAA brass are only the most visible components of the music wing of the entertainment industrial complex. In between the performers and the listeners you have agents, A&R men, delivery boys, lawyers, presidents, vice presidents, assistant vice presidents, associate vice presidents, assistant associate vice presidents, associate assistant vice presidents, board members, hangers-on, suppliers of everything from CD blanks to recreational pharmaceuticals, and at least two or three layers of distributors. And guess what, every single one of these middle-men, hangers-on and add-on suppliers sees their jobs threatened by file sharing and other alternative means of supply. You bet your butt they're going to fight to keep their sources of income.
I can see why musicians would have strong opinions on what goes onto their albums. The songs after all their "offspring". On the other hand, since time-in-a-memorial plays have done road trials before they open on Broadway. The Marx Brothers toured "Coconuts" and "Animal Crackers" on stage before they filmed them, refining the show as they went along. A combination of road-testing songs during live shows and tracking what gets downloaded (especially if you can get feedback) seems like it would be a useful way to determine what would be commercially viable. Then, if you just have to do that experimental track that sounds like a bagpipe in a blender, you can add that in with the stuff that's been proven to be successful.
Well that's where the TiVo comes in. We can watch Bab-5 no matter what gawdawful time they decide to air it, through the magic of timeshifting.
Plus, if it weren't for TiVo and the ability to skip through commercials for complete and utter crap like Scare Tactics and Mad Mad House we'd find it hard to watch Sci-Fi at all. Unfortunately I suspect those shows help to pay the bills in a big way so they can run real shows like Stargate SG-1, Andromeda, Babylon-5 and Tremors (OK, so it's a guilty pleasure). As it is I've now gotten to where I know how many times to hit the "skip ahead 30 seconds" button to get through the commercial break.
Fine. Whatever. What I'm saying is that a cable company will cancel Sci-Fi, where there are at least two or three shows I watch, before they'll cancel something like Oxygen that I've never seen and by the looks of it would have no reason to ever visit.
All the more reason to use my TiVo, I guess, so I can find shows I like on the channels that are left. That is, until they cancel TiVo too.
Your math is off..05% of 260 million is 130,000, not 13 million.
That's still the rough equivalent of a city the size of Alexandria, Virginia; Berkeley, California; Cedar Rapids, Iowa; New Haven, Connecticut; or Fort Collins, Colorado.
Not to take away from the rest of your post, I just wanted to help readers visualize just how many people we're talking about.
Sorry to reply to myself but the "Waist Deep" incident did not happen until 1968. Seeger's first appearance on the show, however, was in 1967. (He was scheduled to sing "Waist Deep" in the first airing, but it was cut due to a dispute over cutting one of the verses.)
The blacklist was breaking down by the early sixties, but some blacklisted entertainers had trouble getting jobs long after. For instance, it was primarily because Tommy Smothers stood up to CBS that Pete Seeger got onto The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour in 1967 (where he proceeded to completely hack off LBJ by singing "Waist Deep In The Big Muddy"), well after other folk entertainers had made it to TV.
Yes, I know. My post was intended to be humorous, since all current BSDs that I know of are open source. Obviously many people are seeing this as "open source == Linux" and completely bypassing all other open source code out there, including BSD and open-source applications for platforms such as OS X, Palm and Windows.
Every time I hear the phrase "trusted computing" or "trustworthy computing" I think of the "trusted" prisoners who get to work in the prison library. It's the same level of trust, and the same overseers doing the trusting.
I don't see why this wouldn't work, after all crap has been used to power an Internet website for years now.
Somebody had to say it . . .
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Stop saying how bad windows is
Quite some contradictory statements you've made there. You might want to rethink things.
Nothing contradictory there. Even if you argue that Windows is good, you can also argue that Linux is better. In any case, and in my opinion, it's much better to talk <fill in the blank> up than to talk <fill in the blank differently> down. Think of it in terms of talking about your girl friend, or your religion, or your car. Nobody minds if you think you have a hot girl friend, or a better religion, or a flashier car and back up your beliefs so long as you don't hit people over the head with them. Few people are receptive if you tell them their girl friend is ugly, their choice of religion is a vertical drop to Hell or their car is the worst thing ever to sputter and belch its way out of Detroit.
Yes I read the article, or at least I thought I did, but apparently missed the part you reference. Thanks for asking.
This still doesn't address the idea that a user isn't going to get very far if he's looking for information on cda files when he should be looking for information on wavs. Also, I haven't checked, but if either of those distributions come with xmms at all I believe the disk write plugin I mentioned is standard, so should have been available to him. (Not that a first time user would necessarily know that, of course.)
Find an antique set anyway. When I was a kid we had two sets of the Book of Knowledge, one from 1962 and one from 1911. The 1911 one was a look into the past, filled with French lessons (apparently assuming all well-educated children should speak French), articles about pre-revolutionary Russia (the only kind that existed back then) and stories and poems that are almost forgotten now, among many other things. I remember in particular a picture of "the train of the future" which was apparently what we would now call a maglev. The caption accompanying the picture stated that the train would be stable enough for one to play billiards while the train was in motion -- something that hasn't yet happened in the 93 intervening years.
Maybe this just attests to my particular weirdness, but I thought it was fascinating. You might as well.
He's probably just not using the right tools, or the right terminlogy, or something along those lines. My CD-creating life got much easier the day I figured out that if xmms can play something, it can store it to disk with the "Disk Writer Plugin" and the resulting.wav file works just fine for burning to CD via a tool like xcdroast.
After all the trumpeting Caldera did about Linux there is no way in hell The SCO Group, which is essentially Caldera in wolf's clothing, can claim they didn't know about, authorize or understand the ramifications of distributing any code they may have had rights to under the terms of the General Public License. I know it, you know it, IBM's lawyers know it, soon Judges Wells and Kimball will know it, and most important, The SCO Group knows it.
IBM's lawyers would be able to blow this one out of the water in less time than it would take to . . . um . . . well in less time than it would take to do a very fast thing.
Not me, I send it as "hee hee" even though I think I first learned it as "hi." (Like you this was too many years ago to contemplate.) Once I got on the air everyone I QSO'd used "hee hee," and I just liked the sound of it better than "hi".
I never got the impression that Parrot was out to knock the core out of Python. My impression was that you would be able to write a Python interpreter as a Parrot module. Python would still be executable outside of Parrot, but if for instance I wanted to write the guts of my program in Perl but use Python to nail the GUI together, I would be able to do it and run the resulting bytecode on a Parrot VM in Windows, Mac, Linux or any other machine that had one.
I know that if the Python community suggested that they rewrite Perl's internals so that it ran on top of some Python project, the Perl programmers out there would get a bit, um, excited.
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SCO is distributing the entire bleepin' KERNEL under the terms of the GPL. That's the real point of this -- they are saying their precioussssss is in the Linux kernel against their will, yet until recently they were allowing unrestricted access to their FTP server for anyone who wanted to download the kernel, and are still to the best of my knowledge offering the kernel for updates for anyone who has previously received a copy of their Linux distribution. And guess what? The GPL is ALL OVER that kernel, so even if their precioussssss is in the kernel, they distributed it under the GPL for anyone to use according to its terms. Game, set, match.
They will try to convince the court that they did it unknowingly, or that they didn't know what they were getting into, or some such whitewash. Don't believe it. For a very long time, both as Caldera and after they became the pod-people SCO, they were trumpeting the advantages that Linux would bring you as their customer.
As for GPL code in Unixware . . . there is some speculation that there is GPL code in their Linux Personality Module for Unixware, but that's all it is -- speculation. Someone smarter than me would have to determine whether there really is.
Albums predate the LP. You're right about songs being under three minutes in the days of the 78, but back then you could buy an "album" of six double-sided 78s. It looked a lot like a photograph album, hence the name.
And yes, we have "albums" today because That's The Way We've Always Done It. With digital music there's nothing to stop artists from releasing their songs one at a time if they like, but I suspect a lot of them will still release CDs for the time being because they and we have grown comfortable with the format.
Yes I know. Some Hollywood starlet from the thirties was credited with the mangled phrase, and what the heck, I happen to like it. :)
Marconi didn't invent the radio. Most people will admit that. What Marconi did was prove that you could use it as something other than a local curiosity, to send signals outside your back yard and indeed across an ocean.
This was a very important discovery for the time because once a ship was out of the harbor and out of sight of land it was cut off from the rest of the world, other than communications with other passing ships. Radio allowed ships at sea to communicate with land stations and each other. In fact in the United States, wireless came under the control of the Navy Department in its early years.
However, despite some dramatic rescues out of sight of land where ships in distress were able to use radio to signal for help, it wasn't until after the sinking of the Titanic that ships were required to carry wireless equipment.
It's not only that. Performers and the RIAA brass are only the most visible components of the music wing of the entertainment industrial complex. In between the performers and the listeners you have agents, A&R men, delivery boys, lawyers, presidents, vice presidents, assistant vice presidents, associate vice presidents, assistant associate vice presidents, associate assistant vice presidents, board members, hangers-on, suppliers of everything from CD blanks to recreational pharmaceuticals, and at least two or three layers of distributors. And guess what, every single one of these middle-men, hangers-on and add-on suppliers sees their jobs threatened by file sharing and other alternative means of supply. You bet your butt they're going to fight to keep their sources of income.
I can see why musicians would have strong opinions on what goes onto their albums. The songs after all their "offspring". On the other hand, since time-in-a-memorial plays have done road trials before they open on Broadway. The Marx Brothers toured "Coconuts" and "Animal Crackers" on stage before they filmed them, refining the show as they went along. A combination of road-testing songs during live shows and tracking what gets downloaded (especially if you can get feedback) seems like it would be a useful way to determine what would be commercially viable. Then, if you just have to do that experimental track that sounds like a bagpipe in a blender, you can add that in with the stuff that's been proven to be successful.
Well that's where the TiVo comes in. We can watch Bab-5 no matter what gawdawful time they decide to air it, through the magic of timeshifting.
Plus, if it weren't for TiVo and the ability to skip through commercials for complete and utter crap like Scare Tactics and Mad Mad House we'd find it hard to watch Sci-Fi at all. Unfortunately I suspect those shows help to pay the bills in a big way so they can run real shows like Stargate SG-1, Andromeda, Babylon-5 and Tremors (OK, so it's a guilty pleasure). As it is I've now gotten to where I know how many times to hit the "skip ahead 30 seconds" button to get through the commercial break.
Fine. Whatever. What I'm saying is that a cable company will cancel Sci-Fi, where there are at least two or three shows I watch, before they'll cancel something like Oxygen that I've never seen and by the looks of it would have no reason to ever visit.
All the more reason to use my TiVo, I guess, so I can find shows I like on the channels that are left. That is, until they cancel TiVo too.
This would just be an extension of the rule that has been in effect since I discovered TV: "Every show I like gets cancelled sooner than later."
Now every channel I like can get cancelled sooner than later. Lucky me.
Your math is off. .05% of 260 million is 130,000, not 13 million.
That's still the rough equivalent of a city the size of Alexandria, Virginia; Berkeley, California; Cedar Rapids, Iowa; New Haven, Connecticut; or Fort Collins, Colorado.
Not to take away from the rest of your post, I just wanted to help readers visualize just how many people we're talking about.
Sorry to reply to myself but the "Waist Deep" incident did not happen until 1968. Seeger's first appearance on the show, however, was in 1967. (He was scheduled to sing "Waist Deep" in the first airing, but it was cut due to a dispute over cutting one of the verses.)
The blacklist was breaking down by the early sixties, but some blacklisted entertainers had trouble getting jobs long after. For instance, it was primarily because Tommy Smothers stood up to CBS that Pete Seeger got onto The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour in 1967 (where he proceeded to completely hack off LBJ by singing "Waist Deep In The Big Muddy"), well after other folk entertainers had made it to TV.
Yes, I know. My post was intended to be humorous, since all current BSDs that I know of are open source. Obviously many people are seeing this as "open source == Linux" and completely bypassing all other open source code out there, including BSD and open-source applications for platforms such as OS X, Palm and Windows.
No, I'm not trolling. Don't most of those reasons also apply to the BSDs?
Only the ones that are open source. The article is about why open source will prevail, so closed source BSDs are going to fall by the wayside.
Every time I hear the phrase "trusted computing" or "trustworthy computing" I think of the "trusted" prisoners who get to work in the prison library. It's the same level of trust, and the same overseers doing the trusting.
I don't see why this wouldn't work, after all crap has been used to power an Internet website for years now.
Somebody had to say it . . .
Stop saying how bad windows is
Quite some contradictory statements you've made there. You might want to rethink things.
Nothing contradictory there. Even if you argue that Windows is good, you can also argue that Linux is better. In any case, and in my opinion, it's much better to talk <fill in the blank> up than to talk <fill in the blank differently> down. Think of it in terms of talking about your girl friend, or your religion, or your car. Nobody minds if you think you have a hot girl friend, or a better religion, or a flashier car and back up your beliefs so long as you don't hit people over the head with them. Few people are receptive if you tell them their girl friend is ugly, their choice of religion is a vertical drop to Hell or their car is the worst thing ever to sputter and belch its way out of Detroit.
Yes I read the article, or at least I thought I did, but apparently missed the part you reference. Thanks for asking.
This still doesn't address the idea that a user isn't going to get very far if he's looking for information on cda files when he should be looking for information on wavs. Also, I haven't checked, but if either of those distributions come with xmms at all I believe the disk write plugin I mentioned is standard, so should have been available to him. (Not that a first time user would necessarily know that, of course.)
Find an antique set anyway. When I was a kid we had two sets of the Book of Knowledge, one from 1962 and one from 1911. The 1911 one was a look into the past, filled with French lessons (apparently assuming all well-educated children should speak French), articles about pre-revolutionary Russia (the only kind that existed back then) and stories and poems that are almost forgotten now, among many other things. I remember in particular a picture of "the train of the future" which was apparently what we would now call a maglev. The caption accompanying the picture stated that the train would be stable enough for one to play billiards while the train was in motion -- something that hasn't yet happened in the 93 intervening years.
Maybe this just attests to my particular weirdness, but I thought it was fascinating. You might as well.
He's probably just not using the right tools, or the right terminlogy, or something along those lines. My CD-creating life got much easier the day I figured out that if xmms can play something, it can store it to disk with the "Disk Writer Plugin" and the resulting .wav file works just fine for burning to CD via a tool like xcdroast.
After all the trumpeting Caldera did about Linux there is no way in hell The SCO Group, which is essentially Caldera in wolf's clothing, can claim they didn't know about, authorize or understand the ramifications of distributing any code they may have had rights to under the terms of the General Public License. I know it, you know it, IBM's lawyers know it, soon Judges Wells and Kimball will know it, and most important, The SCO Group knows it.
IBM's lawyers would be able to blow this one out of the water in less time than it would take to . . . um . . . well in less time than it would take to do a very fast thing.
(seen on Groklaw, or someplace)
Q: How many SCO lawyers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A: Just one. He hands SCO's case to the lightbulb and it screws itself.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. You're probably just annoyed because you didn't think of it first.
Not me, I send it as "hee hee" even though I think I first learned it as "hi." (Like you this was too many years ago to contemplate.) Once I got on the air everyone I QSO'd used "hee hee," and I just liked the sound of it better than "hi".
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I never got the impression that Parrot was out to knock the core out of Python. My impression was that you would be able to write a Python interpreter as a Parrot module. Python would still be executable outside of Parrot, but if for instance I wanted to write the guts of my program in Perl but use Python to nail the GUI together, I would be able to do it and run the resulting bytecode on a Parrot VM in Windows, Mac, Linux or any other machine that had one.
I know that if the Python community suggested that they rewrite Perl's internals so that it ran on top of some Python project, the Perl programmers out there would get a bit, um, excited.