Well, yes, but unfortunately no one else running has a snowball's chance in hell of being elected, we don't have "None of the above is acceptable" on the ballot and the thought of four more years of Himself is even less palatable than putting Kerry into office.
I can see your point, but I hope your plan is to throw the thong in one direction, the gun in another, and run like hell.
Because any other plan when facing a pissed off Grizzly is going to get you dead.
So will this one, since grizzlies can run faster than humans. The only defense against a bear I've ever heard that makes any sense is to make yourself look bigger and scarier than it is, and if possible sound louder than it does -- which I can't help but think would be difficult if you're out there wearing nothing but that thong.
And in point of fact, depending on just how pissed off that grizzly is, even the Big and Scary Defense might not work. If you've been daft enough to look like you're going to threaten a she-bear's cubs, you might as well tuck your head firmly between your legs, because it's time to kiss your ass goodbye.
Do you have to be running Windows to download the service pack? If not, boot the machine from the Knoppix CD, download the service pack ISO via Konqueror, unplug the machine from the net, boot back up in Windows, burn the ISO to CD and go forth, update and reboot a dozen times before you reconnect.
Or just buy one service pack from CD for your department/company/whoever. Hey, it's got to be cheaper than the downtime you're going to suffer while you deal with all that Internet wildlife that loaded itself onto the machine.
Not only that, but it is a very large business organization that contains a huge number of SCOG's current and potential customers*. Point of sale systems are a large percentage of SCOG's non-litigation business; think companies like McDonald's and Goodyear.
* Assuming this business still exists for them and that anyone would be foolish enough to buy one of their systems, of course.
As for the average user, stage3 indeed does not include X support, restricting you to a command prompt, rather than a GUI. Great for servers, not so hot for most people's desktops.
But assuming you have net support, you're just an "emerge gnome"/"emerge kde"/"emerge fluxbox"/whatever away from having a functioning system with X installed. Granted it may take a while to compile, but if you're in a hurry you can grab the binary packages instead and recompile them later as the need to update arises.
The only drawback to this I can see is if you don't have a net connection, in which case you shouldn't be using Gentoo anyway.
What can I say? I just assumed that if something is masked out, there's a good reason for it. I removed the mask and emerged it, and it does seem to be working so far (although the current version won't emerge sync, which is no big deal since I emerge sync through a crontab every morning).
Porthole is currently masked out in packages.mask with the note "does not work, will not maintain atm". St it sounds like a good idea, but not yet ready for prime time.
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Gentoo per se, you might be right, especially if people are doing things like rolling their own kernels. But, consider a company that promises to provide support. The company installs Gentoo on the client machines, does all the necessary security upgrades and the like, and then tells the client not to mess with portage and genkernel or they void their service contract on that machine. The company can remotely kick off portage or kernel compiles on client machines via ssh, so they always know what's on a particular machine.
Looks like a great opportunity for someone who can make it work.
I'm confused. How is what you describe different from doing a stage 3 install, then adding in packages compiled through portage as you go along (either because they weren't in the stage 3 tarball, or because you're upgrading something that was in stage 3)?
(I notice you claim a lack of familiarity with Linux in general and Gentoo in particular. That's OK, I may be answering the question you're asking. In essence, a stage 3 install unwinds a big tarball onto your machine, giving you precompiled binaries for all the basic stuff you need to get a Gentoo box running. From there you can emerge packages that were updated since the CD was created, or add your own -- for instance, IIRC X support is not included in stage 3.)
I'd order an installation CD from LinuxCentral or Cheapbytes, or take the plunge and go to the Gentoo Store and get the "official" install CD for $15. Lots faster than trying to download an ISO over a dialup connection.
As for binary packages, some folks don't want to have to sit through the compilation process for something like gcc, mozilla or OpenOffice that takes for-freakin'-ever, even if you have a good fast machine. For them, binary packages make sense. Note also that in an enterprise situation, you could create binary packages on a master machine and dole them out to all the machines on your network (assuming that you either make them suffficiently generic or that you have a homogenous environment where all the machines are set up the same).
Portage shouldn't be a problem over dialup. Few ebuilds are going to be larger than 4-5 MB, and for those, use an equivalent binary package if you need to.
Disclaimer: I have a nice fast connection and can download a full CD worth of ISO in less than 40 minutes, so take anything I say about dialup with a grain of salt.
That's GM. I have a friend who has a Town & Country Limited van, and she has GPS tracking so she can tell where she is at any given moment, but you can't use it to communicate with the mothership, or get them to unlock your car for you.
Once the Babelfish people get that Lawyerese-to-English translator working you'll see that this is exactly what they did. Lawyers just take longer to say things like this because they get paid, very handsomely, by the word.
As someone says further down the chain, you should also do an "etc-update" after you finish emerging the new version so you have all of your configuration files up-to-date.
Assuming you're using a 2.4 kernel, you might also want to consider whether you want to keep your existing kernel, upgrade within the 2.4 kernel series (gentoo-sources), move to the new 2.6 kernel (gentoo-dev-sources), or one of the other kernel choices (hardened-sources, gaming-sources, etc). Assuming, that is, that you're on an x86 processor and not emerging onto a Mac or something.
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Sounds like a great idea for a contribution to the project to me. The syntax highlight files are named {lang}.jsf; on my Gentoo system they are in/etc/joe/syntax, and on other systems you can probably just do a locate to find them. c.jsf is particularly well commented, so it's likely that you would only have to copy the file and change the list of keywords to add the C++ keywords you want. (I haven't tried this, so I'm not sure how you would name the new file.)
In my case I was writing a Perl program and noticed that some keywords were not being highlighted. So I kept a list of the missing words, logged in as root, edited perl.jsf and added them in. Easy.
Oral arguments were heard before the Supreme Court last month in a case meant to try to settle this very question. Check out the defendant's web site for more details.
Executive summary (according to the defense, and copied from the web site):
Meet Dudley Hiibel. He's a 59 year old cowboy who owns a small ranch outside of Winnemucca, Nevada. He lives a simple life, but he's his own man. You probably never would have heard of Dudley Hiibel if it weren't for his belief in the U.S. Constitution.
One balmy May evening back in 2000, Dudley was standing around minding his own business when all of a sudden, a policeman pulled-up and demanded that Dudley produce his ID. Dudley, having done nothing wrong, declined. He was arrested and charged with "failure to cooperate" for refusing to show ID on demand. And it's all on video.
There are other elements to the story -- for instance, at the time of the incident he was standing at the side of a public highway next to his truck. Check out the web site for details.
You mention several things the label pays for, but don't those get charged back to the artist? I'm not a working musician or anything, and all I know is what I read on the Internet, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd gotten the impression that all those expenses you mention get deducted from the band's royalties (along with paying back the advance), which is why most bands don't make any money. Not that a record label would do anything unfair to the artists or anything.
It's also possible that, since many bands don't end up making back their advances on their CDs, the record company would effectively eat any involved production costs. Perhaps someone who's been through the process can enlighten us -- I'd be interested in the breakdown.
The real problem is when parents let their children sit in front of a TV or computer all day. There's a lot more to life than just staring at screens.
Yes, of course, if that's all you do. Now if you sit with them and interact with the screen, you help them get through the maze the first time, you show them how to change Polly Pockets' dress color, you help them sound out the words they don't yet know, you ask what they think Lilo and Stitch are going to do next, you help them think through the problems in Crashbox . ..
In short, when you make TV and the computer interactive instead of expecting them to be electronic babysitters, you're accomplishing two things. You're reinforcing what they learn, and more important, you're spending time with them.
And the same can be said for going to the zoo, or the park, or to the theater or doing homework or playing the violin or whatever you and your children can do together.
Re:The whole streaming audio/video field's gone cr
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Um, you do know that Hungary has implemented the Berne convention just like most other countries, don't you?
Um, you do know that the Berne Convention concerns copyrights and not patents, don't you?
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At the first nastygram from any big patent-wielding corporation, MPlayer's going bye-bye. As far as I'm concerned, thanks to our pal the DMCA, it's just another DeCSS waiting to happen.
Um, you do know that Mplayer is made by a merry band of coders from Hungary, don't you? They have a great deal less regard for US copyright concerns than Norway.
I share some of your concerns but I don't think this is one we really need to worry about. In fact if by some perversion of nature, law and justice F/OSS were to be banned in this country it would move to places like Hungary and Taiwan, and flourish there. And yes, it would make criminals out of a lot of us.
Well, yes, but unfortunately no one else running has a snowball's chance in hell of being elected, we don't have "None of the above is acceptable" on the ballot and the thought of four more years of Himself is even less palatable than putting Kerry into office.
Generalizing groups of people, companies, or ideas is always unfair biased bull shit.
In other words, all generalizations are invalid. Presumably including this one.
I can see your point, but I hope your plan is to throw the thong in one direction, the gun in another, and run like hell.
Because any other plan when facing a pissed off Grizzly is going to get you dead.
So will this one, since grizzlies can run faster than humans. The only defense against a bear I've ever heard that makes any sense is to make yourself look bigger and scarier than it is, and if possible sound louder than it does -- which I can't help but think would be difficult if you're out there wearing nothing but that thong.
And in point of fact, depending on just how pissed off that grizzly is, even the Big and Scary Defense might not work. If you've been daft enough to look like you're going to threaten a she-bear's cubs, you might as well tuck your head firmly between your legs, because it's time to kiss your ass goodbye.
Do you have to be running Windows to download the service pack? If not, boot the machine from the Knoppix CD, download the service pack ISO via Konqueror, unplug the machine from the net, boot back up in Windows, burn the ISO to CD and go forth, update and reboot a dozen times before you reconnect.
Or just buy one service pack from CD for your department/company/whoever. Hey, it's got to be cheaper than the downtime you're going to suffer while you deal with all that Internet wildlife that loaded itself onto the machine.
Not only that, but it is a very large business organization that contains a huge number of SCOG's current and potential customers*. Point of sale systems are a large percentage of SCOG's non-litigation business; think companies like McDonald's and Goodyear.
* Assuming this business still exists for them and that anyone would be foolish enough to buy one of their systems, of course.
I would have believed it was an accident if you hadn't stopped four times to reload and twice to chug a beer.
As for the average user, stage3 indeed does not include X support, restricting you to a command prompt, rather than a GUI. Great for servers, not so hot for most people's desktops.
But assuming you have net support, you're just an "emerge gnome"/"emerge kde"/"emerge fluxbox"/whatever away from having a functioning system with X installed. Granted it may take a while to compile, but if you're in a hurry you can grab the binary packages instead and recompile them later as the need to update arises.
The only drawback to this I can see is if you don't have a net connection, in which case you shouldn't be using Gentoo anyway.
What can I say? I just assumed that if something is masked out, there's a good reason for it. I removed the mask and emerged it, and it does seem to be working so far (although the current version won't emerge sync, which is no big deal since I emerge sync through a crontab every morning).
Porthole is currently masked out in packages.mask with the note "does not work, will not maintain atm". St it sounds like a good idea, but not yet ready for prime time.
Gentoo per se, you might be right, especially if people are doing things like rolling their own kernels. But, consider a company that promises to provide support. The company installs Gentoo on the client machines, does all the necessary security upgrades and the like, and then tells the client not to mess with portage and genkernel or they void their service contract on that machine. The company can remotely kick off portage or kernel compiles on client machines via ssh, so they always know what's on a particular machine.
Looks like a great opportunity for someone who can make it work.
I'm confused. How is what you describe different from doing a stage 3 install, then adding in packages compiled through portage as you go along (either because they weren't in the stage 3 tarball, or because you're upgrading something that was in stage 3)?
(I notice you claim a lack of familiarity with Linux in general and Gentoo in particular. That's OK, I may be answering the question you're asking. In essence, a stage 3 install unwinds a big tarball onto your machine, giving you precompiled binaries for all the basic stuff you need to get a Gentoo box running. From there you can emerge packages that were updated since the CD was created, or add your own -- for instance, IIRC X support is not included in stage 3.)
I'd order an installation CD from LinuxCentral or Cheapbytes, or take the plunge and go to the Gentoo Store and get the "official" install CD for $15. Lots faster than trying to download an ISO over a dialup connection.
As for binary packages, some folks don't want to have to sit through the compilation process for something like gcc, mozilla or OpenOffice that takes for-freakin'-ever, even if you have a good fast machine. For them, binary packages make sense. Note also that in an enterprise situation, you could create binary packages on a master machine and dole them out to all the machines on your network (assuming that you either make them suffficiently generic or that you have a homogenous environment where all the machines are set up the same).
Portage shouldn't be a problem over dialup. Few ebuilds are going to be larger than 4-5 MB, and for those, use an equivalent binary package if you need to.
Disclaimer: I have a nice fast connection and can download a full CD worth of ISO in less than 40 minutes, so take anything I say about dialup with a grain of salt.
That's GM. I have a friend who has a Town & Country Limited van, and she has GPS tracking so she can tell where she is at any given moment, but you can't use it to communicate with the mothership, or get them to unlock your car for you.
Too bad too, because I really like your idea.
Once the Babelfish people get that Lawyerese-to-English translator working you'll see that this is exactly what they did. Lawyers just take longer to say things like this because they get paid, very handsomely, by the word.
Dismissal with prejudice is what judges do to people who sue the government for alien mind control.
That's because the Bavarian Illuminati tells them to fnord.
As someone says further down the chain, you should also do an "etc-update" after you finish emerging the new version so you have all of your configuration files up-to-date.
Assuming you're using a 2.4 kernel, you might also want to consider whether you want to keep your existing kernel, upgrade within the 2.4 kernel series (gentoo-sources), move to the new 2.6 kernel (gentoo-dev-sources), or one of the other kernel choices (hardened-sources, gaming-sources, etc). Assuming, that is, that you're on an x86 processor and not emerging onto a Mac or something.
Sounds like a great idea for a contribution to the project to me. The syntax highlight files are named {lang}.jsf; on my Gentoo system they are in /etc/joe/syntax, and on other systems you can probably just do a locate to find them. c.jsf is particularly well commented, so it's likely that you would only have to copy the file and change the list of keywords to add the C++ keywords you want. (I haven't tried this, so I'm not sure how you would name the new file.)
In my case I was writing a Perl program and noticed that some keywords were not being highlighted. So I kept a list of the missing words, logged in as root, edited perl.jsf and added them in. Easy.
That's because he didn't want to be laughed at when we all found out it was a Soundblaster 16.
Oral arguments were heard before the Supreme Court last month in a case meant to try to settle this very question. Check out the defendant's web site for more details.
Executive summary (according to the defense, and copied from the web site):
Meet Dudley Hiibel. He's a 59 year old cowboy who owns a small ranch outside of Winnemucca, Nevada. He lives a simple life, but he's his own man. You probably never would have heard of Dudley Hiibel if it weren't for his belief in the U.S. Constitution.
One balmy May evening back in 2000, Dudley was standing around minding his own business when all of a sudden, a policeman pulled-up and demanded that Dudley produce his ID. Dudley, having done nothing wrong, declined. He was arrested and charged with "failure to cooperate" for refusing to show ID on demand. And it's all on video.
There are other elements to the story -- for instance, at the time of the incident he was standing at the side of a public highway next to his truck. Check out the web site for details.
You mention several things the label pays for, but don't those get charged back to the artist? I'm not a working musician or anything, and all I know is what I read on the Internet, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd gotten the impression that all those expenses you mention get deducted from the band's royalties (along with paying back the advance), which is why most bands don't make any money. Not that a record label would do anything unfair to the artists or anything.
It's also possible that, since many bands don't end up making back their advances on their CDs, the record company would effectively eat any involved production costs. Perhaps someone who's been through the process can enlighten us -- I'd be interested in the breakdown.
The real problem is when parents let their children sit in front of a TV or computer all day. There's a lot more to life than just staring at screens.
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Yes, of course, if that's all you do. Now if you sit with them and interact with the screen, you help them get through the maze the first time, you show them how to change Polly Pockets' dress color, you help them sound out the words they don't yet know, you ask what they think Lilo and Stitch are going to do next, you help them think through the problems in Crashbox . .
In short, when you make TV and the computer interactive instead of expecting them to be electronic babysitters, you're accomplishing two things. You're reinforcing what they learn, and more important, you're spending time with them.
And the same can be said for going to the zoo, or the park, or to the theater or doing homework or playing the violin or whatever you and your children can do together.
Um, you do know that Hungary has implemented the Berne convention just like most other countries, don't you?
Um, you do know that the Berne Convention concerns copyrights and not patents, don't you?
At the first nastygram from any big patent-wielding corporation, MPlayer's going bye-bye. As far as I'm concerned, thanks to our pal the DMCA, it's just another DeCSS waiting to happen.
Um, you do know that Mplayer is made by a merry band of coders from Hungary, don't you? They have a great deal less regard for US copyright concerns than Norway.
I share some of your concerns but I don't think this is one we really need to worry about. In fact if by some perversion of nature, law and justice F/OSS were to be banned in this country it would move to places like Hungary and Taiwan, and flourish there. And yes, it would make criminals out of a lot of us.
Hmmm... I wonder what color parachute Darl has...
I'm hoping for "gray," as in "lead."
As someone on Groklaw mentioned, they are hoping to split their completely hopeless claims from their almost-as-hopeless-but-not-quite claims.