Nokia sells (*BSD based) firewalls based on CheckPoint's FW-1. I should expect a product announcement/some advertisements shortly telling us that if we have WI-FI we should protect it with a VPN, all costing $$$$/££££.
Sad really this being reported as news.
Nice spin though, calling Nokia a 'phone manufacturer' when they also sell VPN/Firewalls by the bucketload. I wonder how much Nokia paid for that article to be written?
I totally agree, I bought one in Feb, from the local computer store, so I didn't exactly get a great deal on it, but it hooked up to my old JetDirect EX dongle, and just worked:-)
This replaced my old LJ II which used to live on an oilrig, and was my workhorse printer whilst at uni. This unit died with a couple of faults - not bad after 10 years of (abuse)work!
The cost to repair it (£300) was the same price as the 1200, so I reluctantly parted with the cash for a shiny new printer, it took me about 30 seconds to realise that it provided postscript AND PCL, so it was a bit of a no brainer really.
The only thing that pisses me off is w2ks insistance on hogging the network printer port, but since I do most of my printing via w2k I dont *really* care that much./op
Theres a version of "Video CD" that was only playable in Philips CD-I players, it didn't conform to VCD standards, since it didnt use a standard mpeg video stream
The Official Star Trek "Video CDs" were released in the Philips-only CD-I format.
They get read by my DVD player but since the mpeg stream isn't standard it doesn't play sound correctly, nor can you see more than 10 frames before it corrupts and becomes unusable.
I've yet to test it on PowerDVD or used any tools to extract the data, as I've recently moved and it's packed away with some million other CDs *over there* (points)
Anyone know any drivers/programs that can read the Philips CD-I TOC ? or any emulators? last time I looked someone was making a start at an emulation, but since my CDI machines CD Tray isnt working too well, I'd like to at least gain "fair use" of media that I've bought.
I never said AWT wasn't broken. I said I preferred it to the bloat of swing.
Since all you're stuff is drawn to a virtual screen You mean YOUR, what next? Spelling colour "color" ?!!!;-)
I'm still waiting for gjc to support mingw32 and sql, fantastic product in all other cercumstances though:)
Course I believe in making the wheel rounder and not reinventing it everytime the old one gives you a crappy ride. Of course, but you know that the java virtual machine was designed over 10 years ago (when java was oak) is showing its age. JVM has some life in it yet, don't get me wrong... It just might be time for a change... maybe when mono is more mature I'll make a permament switch.
depends what the original poster means with ".NET initiative" - I took it to mean "C# and CLR" which is of course what the original post was about. AFAIK de jure supercedes de facto...
I think Ximian's Mono project may do something unintentially pro-Microsoft: it could turn the entire Microsoft.NET initiative into a
de facto standard before Sun figures out what hit them.
firstly I want to apologise for that missing tag:-)
I agree totally with your comments, but Java has been screwed over totally with swing, and god knows what else Sun dreams up to bolt on it.
The whole point is that the software community has now a virtual machine that is completely independant of Suns tinkering.
For example windows.forms will be a boon for those like me hate swing - yes I prefer awt, sure it was awkward to fiddle with, but swing was not the answer to it!
Java is a fine language and yes, I am a java advocate. Until recently I was in charge of integrating native written APIs into a sensor framework, for an enterprise-level security application - I know all about the benifits of cross-platform compatability.
But! Many real world apps will need to bash native APIs. Mostly this will diminish the advantages that cross platform provides. A rich(er) set of APIs reduce that need. Java keeps getting bloated with APIs that are really badly planned and can break backwards compatability (serialisation appears to change/break per release of the VM)
I for one look forward to writing in the java language with a truely portable and free VM that I have the option of writing modules in other languages. (Right tool for the right job, etc)
LOOK, I'm utterly sick of newbies thinking "M$ wrote SMB" I shall say this:
HEY DID NOT. SMB = NetBIOS Over TCPIP
RFC 1001 / 1002
A Portion of RFC 1001 is below:
OVERVIEW OF NetBIOS
... NetBIOS was designed for use by groups of PCs, sharing a broadcast medium. Both connection (Session) and connectionless (Datagram) services are provided, and broadcast and multicast are supported. Participants are identified by name. Assignment of names is distributed and highly dynamic...
NetBIOS applications employ NetBIOS mechanisms to locate resources, establish connections, send and receive data with an application peer, and terminate connections. For purposes of discussion, these mechanisms will collectively be called the NetBIOS Service. This service can be implemented in many different ways. One of the first implementations was for personal computers running the PC-DOS and MS-DOS operating systems. It is possible to implement NetBIOS within other operating systems, or as processes which are, themselves, simply application programs as far as the host operating system is concerned.
The NetBIOS specification, published by IBM as "Technical Reference PC Network"[2] defines the interface and services available to the NetBIOS user. The protocols outlined by that document pertain only to the IBM PC Network and are not generally applicable to other networks.
[2] IBM Corp., "IBM PC Network Technical Reference Manual", No. 6322916, First Edition, September 1984
Now my little SMB rant is over, I shall rip apart the rest of your comment.
1. C# is a unashamed ripoff of Suns Java Language, submitted to ECMA for standardisation. As has their CLR (or Virtual machine)
What they may do however is add more windows specific extensions (Like they did with Java, which Sun got upset about) in libraries. I doubt that they will make significant changes to the virtual machine nor the core api. They'll just bolt on more and more crap (just like Sun are doing with Java)
2. OLE - wrong, this is another IBM invention Dynamic Data Exchange [DDE], Object Linking and Embedding [OLE] (now known as ActiveX), and Component Object Model [COM] are all derived from IBM technology - If in doubt look Here
3. Direct X - a half baked api to get closer to the hardware than a protected mode O/S normally allowed, in fact they had to move for the most part the display drivers into RING0 to accomplish this. NT 3.x had lots of issues with graphical update speed.
4. ZIP - I'm sure PKWare Inc. would like to know how M$ has hijacked ZIP file compression...
A format, language, or protocol that has become a standard not because it has been approved by a standards organization but because it is widely used and recognized by the industry as being standard.
It IS a standard! Masquerading as CIFS/NetBIOS over TCP/IP etc. It's as much as a standard as POP3 and SNMP.
Samba is forced^H^H^H^H^H^Hchooses to adapt to Redmonds bugs/incompatabilities, due to the plain fact that the userbase of windows clients is so mingboggingly huge.
6. Supporting C# (I think you mean CLR here) under a liberal license, is a good thing. It doesn't make M$ more powerful, any more than jumping up and down makes an effect on earths orbit. CLR is here, and on 90% of windows updated machines right now. Many people would have Loved VB to be available on *nix. Now with M$ making all its languages (If I understand it right) run under CLR their wishes come true.
I Really hate saying this, but I think CLR will actually become what Java promised back in 95 total cross platform compatability.
The CLR Genie is out of the bottle. There is little now Redmond can do to do otherwise. Mono is basically removing a whole bunch of porting work off M$ and putting it back into the hands of the developers (where it should be, fs) - Do you really think we would be in a messed up situation with Java now, if SUN had opensourced the JVM from the word go? No, I didn't think so.
So please, before you post check your facts, and stop presenting (IMO) poorly formed opinions. And who ever modded this troll to +4 needs taken outside with petrol+matches!
Well, I've not seen this mentioned yet...
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I'd just wish someone would start broadcasting on digital terrestrial TV other than the BBC.
And I wish that the admistrators would hurry up with the refund of the money they took, knowing damn well they were about to shut off braodcasting the same day it was taken from my account.
As for Tiscali taking money out of my account three months after unsumbscribing, purportedly for unbilled months, I'm not even going to describe my disgust of the blatent fraud.
heh, Of all the leased lines I have had ( 64K to 2Mbit) my ikkle biz broadband (2mb) has been *FAR* more reliable than any of them.
Ok, so the SLA isn't as good, and 90% of the problems have been LINX routing issues, the other 10% being the fact I'm using DSL that runs over BTs DSL ATM network - Apparently being on an unbundled exchange I can request to be switched over to Easynets own DSLAMs at the exchange, but I've never had an outage lasting more than 30mins.
I think one of the major points here is that Ford didn't even have to decency of saying "Hey guys, thats funny, now can you point it elsewhere"
They sued, and lost. Good.
Usually you would think it is just plain old good manners to say "look, stop that, I don't like it"... oddly enough 2600 are adults, and I'm sure they would have pointed the domain elsewhere.
Also if they had a competent sysadmin, they could have just blocked that url by tweaking IIS. Maybe their MSCEs couldn't work it out perhaps...
Anyhow this smacks of plain ignorance (on Fords part) rather than anything else.
"This isn't just about solving problems, but expanding new realms of possibilities in the way people live and work with computers," says product manager Mario Juarez.
erm, sorry to rain on your parade, but not all us brits are enthusiastic about FOOTBALL. (No we don't call it SOCCER over here, much like we spell properly:-)
As it is, one decent TV provider (ITV Digital) has been hounded out of buisness by the footy clubs, but I'm just being bitter not being able to watch the SG-1 reruns and Enterprise. Ah well - anyone know how to get US TV over here?:-)
If you've ever worked with/on an AS/400 you'll know why it is hard to get off "that bandwagon" as you put it.
To put into perspective my very first "real" O/S was a SysV implentation of Unix, my first "real job" was programming an AS/400.
Being a PFY and loving how you can hack Unix to do pretty much what you want to do, and then trying to grok AS/400 stuff is something that gave me frequent headaches. Sure theres nice OS/400 Unix command references *now*, but how can you explain what a "Logical File" is to a Linux person, or even a display file...
Then again the fact that AS/400 treats nearly everything as a "database", is comparable to how unix treats nearly everything as a filesystem object. (Gross over-generalisation there I know)
A lot of corporate iron out there are racks upon racks of AS/400 kit, and I suspect System/36 kit too... Linux won't replace those beasts in the short to mid term, but may in the long term it will be.
Those IBM engineers have access to (the brains, if not the code directly) of many, many Man-Years of O/S code - Certainly more than Microsoft will ever have:-)
Wandering back on topic for a bit, then I'll hit submit, I promise:-) Mainframe programmers also tend not to be too interested in the nuts and bolts of the hardware, "it just works" this is something only a propriatry hardware/software system can do - Forget setting up the machine, just do your work... Imagine the man-hours you've lost writing code on your M$/Unix machine only to find out that you've just broken the O/S by tickling an obscure bug ? - Just doesnt happen in the mainframe world.:-)
Would I go back and do AS/400 work... no - it's just not sexy enough anymore - unless I needed a decent database server of course:-)
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Big Effin' woop.
Nokia sells (*BSD based) firewalls based on CheckPoint's FW-1. I should expect a product announcement/some advertisements shortly telling us that if we have WI-FI we should protect it with a VPN, all costing $$$$/££££.
Sad really this being reported as news.
Nice spin though, calling Nokia a 'phone manufacturer' when they also sell VPN/Firewalls by the bucketload. I wonder how much Nokia paid for that article to be written?
I totally agree, I bought one in Feb, from the local computer store, so I didn't exactly get a great deal on it, but it hooked up to my old JetDirect EX dongle, and just worked :-)
/op
This replaced my old LJ II which used to live on an oilrig, and was my workhorse printer whilst at uni. This unit died with a couple of faults - not bad after 10 years of (abuse)work!
The cost to repair it (£300) was the same price as the 1200, so I reluctantly parted with the cash for a shiny new printer, it took me about 30 seconds to realise that it provided postscript AND PCL, so it was a bit of a no brainer really.
The only thing that pisses me off is w2ks insistance on hogging the network printer port, but since I do most of my printing via w2k I dont *really* care that much.
or Here for a very-nearly compatable version of dot net. In fact near enough to actually learn C# on linux.
Sounds like somehow you're using Software GL.
:-)
You neglected to also say what O/S You use
Theres a version of "Video CD" that was only playable in Philips CD-I players, it didn't conform to VCD standards, since it didnt use a standard mpeg video stream
The Official Star Trek "Video CDs" were released in the Philips-only CD-I format.
They get read by my DVD player but since the mpeg stream isn't standard it doesn't play sound correctly, nor can you see more than 10 frames before it corrupts and becomes unusable.
I've yet to test it on PowerDVD or used any tools to extract the data, as I've recently moved and it's packed away with some million other CDs *over there* (points)
Anyone know any drivers/programs that can read the Philips CD-I TOC ? or any emulators? last time I looked someone was making a start at an emulation, but since my CDI machines CD Tray isnt working too well, I'd like to at least gain "fair use" of media that I've bought.
Quick someone patent tents now!
FDISK ... install linux/*bsd :-)
I never said AWT wasn't broken. I said I preferred it to the bloat of swing.
;-)
:)
... It just might be time for a change ... maybe when mono is more mature I'll make a permament switch.
Since all you're stuff is drawn to a virtual screen
You mean YOUR, what next? Spelling colour "color" ?!!!
I'm still waiting for gjc to support mingw32 and sql, fantastic product in all other cercumstances though
Course I believe in making the wheel rounder and not reinventing it everytime the old one gives you a crappy ride.
Of course, but you know that the java virtual machine was designed over 10 years ago (when java was oak) is showing its age. JVM has some life in it yet, don't get me wrong
depends what the original poster means with ".NET initiative" - I took it to mean "C# and CLR" which is of course what the original post was about. AFAIK de jure supercedes de facto ...
:-)
Your comment is fair though
I don't think you know what "de facto standard" means.
firstly I want to apologise for that missing tag :-)
I agree totally with your comments, but Java has been screwed over totally with swing, and god knows what else Sun dreams up to bolt on it.
The whole point is that the software community has now a virtual machine that is completely independant of Suns tinkering.
For example windows.forms will be a boon for those like me hate swing - yes I prefer awt, sure it was awkward to fiddle with, but swing was not the answer to it!
Java is a fine language and yes, I am a java advocate. Until recently I was in charge of integrating native written APIs into a sensor framework, for an enterprise-level security application - I know all about the benifits of cross-platform compatability.
But! Many real world apps will need to bash native APIs. Mostly this will diminish the advantages that cross platform provides. A rich(er) set of APIs reduce that need. Java keeps getting bloated with APIs that are really badly planned and can break backwards compatability (serialisation appears to change/break per release of the VM)
I for one look forward to writing in the java language with a truely portable and free VM that I have the option of writing modules in other languages. (Right tool for the right job, etc)
Thanks for that. :-)
HEY DID NOT.
SMB = NetBIOS Over TCPIP
RFC 1001 / 1002
A Portion of RFC 1001 is below:
OVERVIEW OF NetBIOS
NetBIOS applications employ NetBIOS mechanisms to locate resources, establish connections, send and receive data with an application peer, and terminate connections. For purposes of discussion, these mechanisms will collectively be called the NetBIOS Service.
This service can be implemented in many different ways. One of the first implementations was for personal computers running the PC-DOS and MS-DOS operating systems. It is possible to implement NetBIOS within other operating systems, or as processes which are, themselves, simply application programs as far as the host operating system is concerned.
The NetBIOS specification, published by IBM as "Technical Reference PC Network"[2] defines the interface and services available to the NetBIOS user. The protocols outlined by that document pertain only to the IBM PC Network and are not generally applicable to other networks.
[2] IBM Corp., "IBM PC Network Technical Reference Manual", No. 6322916, First Edition, September 1984
In fact dont take my word for it, check out The History Of SMB or Here oh, and Here
Now my little SMB rant is over, I shall rip apart the rest of your comment.
1. C# is a unashamed ripoff of Suns Java Language, submitted to ECMA for standardisation. As has their CLR (or Virtual machine)
What they may do however is add more windows specific extensions (Like they did with Java, which Sun got upset about) in libraries. I doubt that they will make significant changes to the virtual machine nor the core api. They'll just bolt on more and more crap (just like Sun are doing with Java)
2. OLE - wrong, this is another IBM invention
Dynamic Data Exchange [DDE], Object Linking and Embedding [OLE] (now known as ActiveX), and Component Object Model [COM] are all derived from IBM technology - If in doubt look Here
3. Direct X - a half baked api to get closer to the hardware than a protected mode O/S normally allowed, in fact they had to move for the most part the display drivers into RING0 to accomplish this. NT 3.x had lots of issues with graphical update speed.
4. ZIP - I'm sure PKWare Inc. would like to know how M$ has hijacked ZIP file compression...
5. Back to SMB - a "de facto" standard is:
It IS a standard! Masquerading as CIFS/NetBIOS over TCP/IP etc. It's as much as a standard as POP3 and SNMP.
Samba is forced^H^H^H^H^H^Hchooses to adapt to Redmonds bugs/incompatabilities, due to the plain fact that the userbase of windows clients is so mingboggingly huge.
6. Supporting C# (I think you mean CLR here) under a liberal license, is a good thing. It doesn't make M$ more powerful, any more than jumping up and down makes an effect on earths orbit. CLR is here, and on 90% of windows updated machines right now. Many people would have Loved VB to be available on *nix. Now with M$ making all its languages (If I understand it right) run under CLR their wishes come true.
I Really hate saying this, but I think CLR will actually become what Java promised back in 95 total cross platform compatability.
The CLR Genie is out of the bottle. There is little now Redmond can do to do otherwise. Mono is basically removing a whole bunch of porting work off M$ and putting it back into the hands of the developers (where it should be, fs) - Do you really think we would be in a messed up situation with Java now, if SUN had opensourced the JVM from the word go? No, I didn't think so.
So please, before you post check your facts, and stop presenting (IMO) poorly formed opinions. And who ever modded this troll to +4 needs taken outside with petrol+matches!
Corewars
:-)
/op
and
More Core Wars
and
Even More Core Wars
Okay, not virii - but still programs that kill each other are kinda cool
Whats more is people are evolving these little programs to be better.
Oh they have a newsgroup too.( google alt.rec.corewar )
I'd just wish someone would start broadcasting on digital terrestrial TV other than the BBC.
And I wish that the admistrators would hurry up with the refund of the money they took, knowing damn well they were about to shut off braodcasting the same day it was taken from my account.
As for Tiscali taking money out of my account three months after unsumbscribing, purportedly for unbilled months, I'm not even going to describe my disgust of the blatent fraud.
Anyhow,
just my 2p
heh, Of all the leased lines I have had ( 64K to 2Mbit) my ikkle biz broadband (2mb) has been *FAR* more reliable than any of them.
Ok, so the SLA isn't as good, and 90% of the problems have been LINX routing issues, the other 10% being the fact I'm using DSL that runs over BTs DSL ATM network - Apparently being on an unbundled exchange I can request to be switched over to Easynets own DSLAMs at the exchange, but I've never had an outage lasting more than 30mins.
Ho hum.
I think one of the major points here is that Ford didn't even have to decency of saying "Hey guys, thats funny, now can you point it elsewhere"
... oddly enough 2600 are adults, and I'm sure they would have pointed the domain elsewhere.
They sued, and lost. Good.
Usually you would think it is just plain old good manners to say "look, stop that, I don't like it"
Also if they had a competent sysadmin, they could have just blocked that url by tweaking IIS. Maybe their MSCEs couldn't work it out perhaps...
Anyhow this smacks of plain ignorance (on Fords part) rather than anything else.
Juarez
ROTFLMAO
or even Here or Here
:-)
Hint: If you're intent on being a Karma Whore, try harder
erm, sorry to rain on your parade, but not all us brits are enthusiastic about FOOTBALL. (No we don't call it SOCCER over here, much like we spell properly :-)
:-)
....
As it is, one decent TV provider (ITV Digital) has been hounded out of buisness by the footy clubs, but I'm just being bitter not being able to watch the SG-1 reruns and Enterprise. Ah well - anyone know how to get US TV over here?
- oPless grumpy with three modpoints left
If you've ever worked with/on an AS/400 you'll know why it is hard to get off "that bandwagon" as you put it.
:-)
:-) Mainframe programmers also tend not to be too interested in the nuts and bolts of the hardware, "it just works" this is something only a propriatry hardware/software system can do - Forget setting up the machine, just do your work ... Imagine the man-hours you've lost writing code on your M$/Unix machine only to find out that you've just broken the O/S by tickling an obscure bug ? - Just doesnt happen in the mainframe world. :-)
... no - it's just not sexy enough anymore - unless I needed a decent database server of course :-)
To put into perspective my very first "real" O/S was a SysV implentation of Unix, my first "real job" was programming an AS/400.
Being a PFY and loving how you can hack Unix to do pretty much what you want to do, and then trying to grok AS/400 stuff is something that gave me frequent headaches. Sure theres nice OS/400 Unix command references *now*, but how can you explain what a "Logical File" is to a Linux person, or even a display file...
Then again the fact that AS/400 treats nearly everything as a "database", is comparable to how unix treats nearly everything as a filesystem object. (Gross over-generalisation there I know)
A lot of corporate iron out there are racks upon racks of AS/400 kit, and I suspect System/36 kit too... Linux won't replace those beasts in the short to mid term, but may in the long term it will be.
Those IBM engineers have access to (the brains, if not the code directly) of many, many Man-Years of O/S code - Certainly more than Microsoft will ever have
Wandering back on topic for a bit, then I'll hit submit, I promise
Would I go back and do AS/400 work
/op
RIAA
They certainly think they are, because they seem to be "representing" bands that are unsigned
So are they going to stump up the cash to these indie bands? ho ho ho.
Can some of these indie band file a class action lawsuit against the RIAA for anti-trust ?
Just a thought... IANAL
*cough* DEBIAN *cough*
> Gravity does not apply to heads in helmets
...
If you're talking about fetts head not falling out when it was lightsabred off
... Lightsabers seem to vapourise the chopped "limb" (in this case a head - yeah yeah I know your head isnt a limb)
completly in line with the SW physics as I understand it.