I sincerely hope it has gold wheels a WRC Blue paint job and a bloody great vent on the front. Oh and Petr Solberg aiming it around those gravity lenses, worse than wet snow...
Nice to see that on an interesting and scientific story about the possible solution to the world's energy problems the discussion decends into just slagging off the French. I thought this was a site for geeks interested in technology and science, not a playground for people to trade cheap insults.
And you Yanks are always accusing everyone of being anti-American, can you not see any hypocrisy?
For the record I am not French but I think the EU deserved to have this in their backyard - after all the EU is the major contributor. This is fantastic news, if this works then at a stroke the world will have access to what is essentially unlimited energy. No more greenhouse gasses, smog and you will be able to run a Pentium 7 without causing a blackout across the entire continent.
Spot on, it's a ridiculous argument - if we refused to regulate anything that may be dangerous, immoral or unethical just because some people would ignore the law then we would legalise organ running, drug dealing, murder or crime as all of these things are collectively known.
Maybe the way to approach this is that nanotech could be used to build WMDs and that apparently Iran is investing heavily.
You obviously have lower expectations than I (or most Europeans) do unless your car is a few years old. If my beemer or Subaru had squeaky brakes or a child lock that didn't unlock then it would be back in the garage until it was fixed... I would also expect everything but the tyres, wipers and (possibly) brake pads to last at least 5 years.
That is my point - no-one will pay enough to justify the cost of the bandwidth.
For example Vodafone have a data card that costs around $1/MB, fine for business data but no-one would pay $7 to listen to the radio for an hour.
3 have cheaper rates, but based on the cost of their downloads per MB it would still work out at $4/hour to listen to a radion station that you could pick up for free with and FM tuner in the right area.
Dropping the price any further would hit company revenue - these companies are struggling enough as it to even attempt to make a profit, particularly when you factor in the cost of the licences they bought.
Now when you consider that the majority of 3G users in the UK are in the south east of the coutry and hence have Virgin radio on FM (the rest of the coutry has it on AM) I don't understand how they will get any listeners over 3G at all. The business case is sh*te.
I don't understand why any telco operator would offer this service. Telco networks are designed for multiple point to point connections, they are not a broadcast, one to many architecture.
Streaming the same data to multiple handsets will take up ridiculous amounts of bandwidth on all layers of the 3G architecture from the backbone (fiber) to the radio access layer (node B to handset). The cost of upgrading a network to support the extra load vs. the amount of revenue it would bring in (you can't charge much money for "free" radio) would make it cost prohibitive.
Much better (and cheaper) just to include an FM receiver in the handset.
Please do not mod parent as insightful, instead it should be modded as inciteful as it is complete b*llsh*t and has obviously been written to wind up us Brits...
The problem is that then it panders to the lowest common demoninator or the the popular viewpoint in order to get advertising revenue.
I for one do not want my news coloured by focus groups - I want reality whether or not it is unpalatable, unpopular or doesn't make me feel good. Look at TV and films in the US - Fox news catering for "patriots", CNN claiming to be real but still always looking for an angle to show the US in the best light and the film industry always revising history to show the US and the good guy fighting all those evil foreign people who do not understand truth, justice and the American way. I do not want the BBC to just produce feel good adverts for the UK - if we as a country do not step up to the plate or screw over someone else or have periods in our history that are shameful then I would like to know about it. Only then can I address it.
Obviously you have never been to the Fat Duck, Gordon Ramsey or Le Gavroche all of which have three Michelin stars and two of which have consistently been rated in the world's top 10 restaurants.
Where did you eat? I could suggest a large number of fantastic restaurants in London, St John's for traditional English food is fantastic for example.
As for the women, well I'll admit that LA is pretty good for seeing stunning women but go to the mid west and unless you love big hair and gigantic arses you are out of luck.
I wonder what the odds are that this guy ate every meal in either the Angus Steak House, the Aberdeen Steak House or Garfunkels somewhere around Leicester Square?
The natural landscape may be diverse but I could put you in any strip mall or suburb in the US and you would have no idea where you were. Now you could probably say the same in the UK (although we don't have strip malls in the same way) or within France or within Spain, but go from one to the other and there will be a greater degree of difference than you could find in the continental US.
I live in a very well built Victorian appartment, my parents have an extremely well built Elizabethan cottage and my father has a 14th century cottage with 2 foot thick stone walls. Maybe we should look for some comparisons in the US?
Unbelievable - do you have any idea what you are talking about?
Since when has methane been emmitted in significant quantities by either internal combustion engines or volcanoes? I think you are getting confused with carbon dioxide. Although how I don't know - one is a flammable gas consisting of carbon and hydrogen produced, generally, by decomposition of organic material, the other is a non-flammable gas consisting of carbon and oxygen and can in fact be produced by buring methane...
If you actually mean carbon dioxide - you are way of the mark. Volcanic eruptions contibute far less than industry each year.
Maybe (I hope) I am being really, really cycnical but I bet it won't be possible to either transfer tracks from your PC that you have ripped from a CD or (even worse) transfer tracks from your PC that you have already purchased via iTunes.
I would put money on the only method of loading tracks onto the handset being downloading them directly to the handset.
Nice way to get you to repurchase music and to lock you into your contract/handset (if you change network or handset you would loose your tunes).
Maybe this will help the poor RIAA members get their profits even higher.
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I thought the recent link to the Science Magazine article looking at the 928 relevant peer reviewed and published papers over the last decade, that showed 75% supporting the theory that mankind is causing global warming and 25% that don't take either side and the ZERO percent that actively deny it, had finally nailed this issue on global warming?
Can anyone find one peer reviewed, published paper that actively argues against it? Or do you simply have such insight and intelligence that you can disprove the theory with no facts to back you up?
Mate - you are an idiot that obviously knows nothing about how ozone is created.
Energy, in the atmosphere in the form of ultraviolet light is required to kick off the reaction that causes O2 to become O3. Suprisingly the amount of UV light hitting the atmosphere is greatest at the equators and smallest at the poles (geographic) - if you had ever looked at pictures of the holes then you would see that they covered both poles and occasionally reached as far the south of Australia.
Nice to see so many techies falling back to racist sterotypes of Indians or worse (the person who made the comments about it being a shame that there were no visa restrictions to prevent Indians in space - I'm talking to you).
How would people react if instead we were talking about Africans swinging from tree branches into space?
I know I will get the typical idiot responses banging on about freedom of speech, but you know what? I don't care.... racism is racism is racism....
You've obviously never seen the 1950/60s Citroen DS (http://www.frenchclassics.co.uk/ds_specification_ detail.asp?DSSpecLiveRS_Action=Find('DSID','1')&DS SpecLiveRS_Position=FIL%3AORD%3AABS%3A1KEY%3A1PAR% 3A)
Fantastic French styling and possibly the most advanced car of it's day...
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I sincerely hope it has gold wheels a WRC Blue paint job and a bloody great vent on the front. Oh and Petr Solberg aiming it around those gravity lenses, worse than wet snow...
Nice to see that on an interesting and scientific story about the possible solution to the world's energy problems the discussion decends into just slagging off the French. I thought this was a site for geeks interested in technology and science, not a playground for people to trade cheap insults.
And you Yanks are always accusing everyone of being anti-American, can you not see any hypocrisy?
For the record I am not French but I think the EU deserved to have this in their backyard - after all the EU is the major contributor. This is fantastic news, if this works then at a stroke the world will have access to what is essentially unlimited energy. No more greenhouse gasses, smog and you will be able to run a Pentium 7 without causing a blackout across the entire continent.
Spot on, it's a ridiculous argument - if we refused to regulate anything that may be dangerous, immoral or unethical just because some people would ignore the law then we would legalise organ running, drug dealing, murder or crime as all of these things are collectively known.
Maybe the way to approach this is that nanotech could be used to build WMDs and that apparently Iran is investing heavily.
Actually climate records go back much further than that, just not in the US. Records in France go back to the middle ages for wine growing regions.
Also ice core samples and fossil records can show what the climate was like much longer ago than that.
Maybe he has been misled in the same way that the involved regulators, lawmakers and scientists have been by this meme over the past 4 years?
But who are educated people to argue with these preachers decrying this - they obviously get their information direct from God - it must be true!
You obviously have lower expectations than I (or most Europeans) do unless your car is a few years old. If my beemer or Subaru had squeaky brakes or a child lock that didn't unlock then it would be back in the garage until it was fixed... I would also expect everything but the tyres, wipers and (possibly) brake pads to last at least 5 years.
That is my point - no-one will pay enough to justify the cost of the bandwidth.
For example Vodafone have a data card that costs around $1/MB, fine for business data but no-one would pay $7 to listen to the radio for an hour.
3 have cheaper rates, but based on the cost of their downloads per MB it would still work out at $4/hour to listen to a radion station that you could pick up for free with and FM tuner in the right area.
Dropping the price any further would hit company revenue - these companies are struggling enough as it to even attempt to make a profit, particularly when you factor in the cost of the licences they bought.
Now when you consider that the majority of 3G users in the UK are in the south east of the coutry and hence have Virgin radio on FM (the rest of the coutry has it on AM) I don't understand how they will get any listeners over 3G at all. The business case is sh*te.
I don't understand why any telco operator would offer this service. Telco networks are designed for multiple point to point connections, they are not a broadcast, one to many architecture.
Streaming the same data to multiple handsets will take up ridiculous amounts of bandwidth on all layers of the 3G architecture from the backbone (fiber) to the radio access layer (node B to handset). The cost of upgrading a network to support the extra load vs. the amount of revenue it would bring in (you can't charge much money for "free" radio) would make it cost prohibitive.
Much better (and cheaper) just to include an FM receiver in the handset.
Please do not mod parent as insightful, instead it should be modded as inciteful as it is complete b*llsh*t and has obviously been written to wind up us Brits...
The problem is that then it panders to the lowest common demoninator or the the popular viewpoint in order to get advertising revenue.
I for one do not want my news coloured by focus groups - I want reality whether or not it is unpalatable, unpopular or doesn't make me feel good. Look at TV and films in the US - Fox news catering for "patriots", CNN claiming to be real but still always looking for an angle to show the US in the best light and the film industry always revising history to show the US and the good guy fighting all those evil foreign people who do not understand truth, justice and the American way. I do not want the BBC to just produce feel good adverts for the UK - if we as a country do not step up to the plate or screw over someone else or have periods in our history that are shameful then I would like to know about it. Only then can I address it.
Obviously you have never been to the Fat Duck, Gordon Ramsey or Le Gavroche all of which have three Michelin stars and two of which have consistently been rated in the world's top 10 restaurants.
Where did you eat? I could suggest a large number of fantastic restaurants in London, St John's for traditional English food is fantastic for example.
As for the women, well I'll admit that LA is pretty good for seeing stunning women but go to the mid west and unless you love big hair and gigantic arses you are out of luck.
I wonder what the odds are that this guy ate every meal in either the Angus Steak House, the Aberdeen Steak House or Garfunkels somewhere around Leicester Square?
Diverse my arse...
The natural landscape may be diverse but I could put you in any strip mall or suburb in the US and you would have no idea where you were. Now you could probably say the same in the UK (although we don't have strip malls in the same way) or within France or within Spain, but go from one to the other and there will be a greater degree of difference than you could find in the continental US.
You mean those things we invented?
American engineering is known for being shoddy - I mean look at your cars...
Apart from any in the US.
I live in a very well built Victorian appartment, my parents have an extremely well built Elizabethan cottage and my father has a 14th century cottage with 2 foot thick stone walls. Maybe we should look for some comparisons in the US?
Unbelievable - do you have any idea what you are talking about?
Since when has methane been emmitted in significant quantities by either internal combustion engines or volcanoes? I think you are getting confused with carbon dioxide. Although how I don't know - one is a flammable gas consisting of carbon and hydrogen produced, generally, by decomposition of organic material, the other is a non-flammable gas consisting of carbon and oxygen and can in fact be produced by buring methane...
If you actually mean carbon dioxide - you are way of the mark. Volcanic eruptions contibute far less than industry each year.
And your facts to back this up are?
I would be interested to see anyone submit a link to a peer reviewed paper that supports your position.
I'm sure you have published several research papers to back up your point.
No? You haven't?
So you really do know what you are talking about, unlike these "high priests" of science and acedemia.
Your insult has failed on so many levels.
a) The French super jumbo is just about to get off the ground (it's called the A380)
b) '69' style seating sounds a lot more fun than flying on a US plane - at least the French are not as uptight as the Americans...
Maybe (I hope) I am being really, really cycnical but I bet it won't be possible to either transfer tracks from your PC that you have ripped from a CD or (even worse) transfer tracks from your PC that you have already purchased via iTunes.
I would put money on the only method of loading tracks onto the handset being downloading them directly to the handset.
Nice way to get you to repurchase music and to lock you into your contract/handset (if you change network or handset you would loose your tunes).
Maybe this will help the poor RIAA members get their profits even higher.
I thought the recent link to the Science Magazine article looking at the 928 relevant peer reviewed and published papers over the last decade, that showed 75% supporting the theory that mankind is causing global warming and 25% that don't take either side and the ZERO percent that actively deny it, had finally nailed this issue on global warming?
Can anyone find one peer reviewed, published paper that actively argues against it? Or do you simply have such insight and intelligence that you can disprove the theory with no facts to back you up?
I think if it numbs both of you then you are missing the point...
Mate - you are an idiot that obviously knows nothing about how ozone is created.
Energy, in the atmosphere in the form of ultraviolet light is required to kick off the reaction that causes O2 to become O3. Suprisingly the amount of UV light hitting the atmosphere is greatest at the equators and smallest at the poles (geographic) - if you had ever looked at pictures of the holes then you would see that they covered both poles and occasionally reached as far the south of Australia.
Nice to see so many techies falling back to racist sterotypes of Indians or worse (the person who made the comments about it being a shame that there were no visa restrictions to prevent Indians in space - I'm talking to you).
How would people react if instead we were talking about Africans swinging from tree branches into space?
I know I will get the typical idiot responses banging on about freedom of speech, but you know what? I don't care.... racism is racism is racism....
You've obviously never seen the 1950/60s Citroen DS (http://www.frenchclassics.co.uk/ds_specification_ detail.asp?DSSpecLiveRS_Action=Find('DSID','1')&DS SpecLiveRS_Position=FIL%3AORD%3AABS%3A1KEY%3A1PAR% 3A)
Fantastic French styling and possibly the most advanced car of it's day...