You catch them cheating in whatever mode, you ban them. Taking people who write the tools to, I will repeat, allow people to mess around with the memory in their own machine, is wrong.
I can just about see how it might be framed as some sort of unlawful hacking if your changes are deliberately trying to mess up Blizzard's network, but it's not a copyright or other IP issue, nor is it reasonable to go after the creators of the cheat hacks.
I loved SC1 and brood war, but Blizzard have gone totally overboard on their assumed ownership of everything your machine does with the software you bought from them.
Limited use license my arse, I should be able to do what the hell I like with it in the confines of my own machine, and distribute tools to allow others to do the same.
Sure, ban me from your servers, whatever, but hands off MY computer.
Umm, that's not actually possible unless they have a certification authority with its cert in your browser and are generating MITM certs for every outgoing SSL connection.
Not beyond the realms of the imaginable, perhaps.
If you meant ssh and they were intercepting the initial setup of the signatures then sure, that's more likely,
"To you, maybe, but Microsoft could bankrupt itself inventing a machine that causes piles of food to appear in every village in Africa at the push of a button, and it wouldn't come across as philanthropic to Slashdot."
Hey, the guy or girl you're replying to does not speak for slashdot. Neither do I, just to set the record straight.
I don't like MS. I don't like their business practices. I don't like their efforts to frame things like.Net as cross platform. I don't like them when they're actively trying to screw things up for the FOSS world, and I don't like them when they're pretending to be friends. I have mixed feelings about their OS and office products and I try not to spend too much time using either.
All that said, well done Microsoft for this move. This is a good thing. It's perhaps not going to stop bad governments raiding some of these NGOs, but it does remove one more way they could try and cover it up and pretend it was reasonable.
My car might not look like a badass but I drove 27000K around the outback in her this year. Cars are just becoming more specialised.
If you are a city dweller and all you do is make short drives between different parts of the city, then you get a small, safe, fuel-efficient pod. If you need to cross rivers, climb mountains, tame deserts or take the kids to school, you get a 4x4. They're still awesome when used to do what they're supposed to do.
Luxury and muscle cars are more expensive, the market is in decline due to a lot of factors. The price of fuel is one.
This discussion is about open standards. And whoever is pushing the open standards (no, it doesn't matter a jot whether it's big blue, redhat, google and what ethical issues they may have or even if they implement the standards properly) the BSA's move here is unethical and just plain wrong.
And please don't mention OOXML opposition in the same... universe as money and corruption when we all saw how that utter abortion of a non-standard was pushed through.
Ignore the weirdos, normal people use canned tomatoes all the time. In the UK you can now get chopped tomatoes in cardboard cartons, so that's one option if you can find that. Also lookout for Passata and/or sugocasa, usually in large glass jars though may cost a little more.
"Second, 3D television sales have been a disaster, so it's a pointless technology that only works well on a gigantic screen and not a standard sized television."
Is the "amazing windows mobile 7" shill some sort of meme? Are all the cool kids doing it?
I'm beginning to find it quite amusing. If ever there was a platform that was late to the market and consumers aren't interested in, it's windows mobile.
The ways of business are strange and inscrutable, but in the consumer market who is going to actually purposefully buy a windows phone?
Why should our emotional attachment to bit of dead folks mean that cute, furry, stripy badgers should be killed?
I don't think it's the twilight zone. The UK has already wiped out pretty much every wild animal it ever had that was larger than a badger. And we like badgers.
No, it couldn't, they're not an artificial market. You could build a desktop for the money, sure, a crappy one. And then I wouldn't be able to take it in the car with me to play music, or throw it into a bag with my stuff when I go away for a weekend, or 101 other things that I like it to do.
Nothing like the artificial market that specifically calls for a limited device due to a fairly arbitrary set of rules.
Homeopathy does not operate that way. It makes claims about curing illness with like-like interactions, it makes claims about the alleged memory of water, it makes claims that the further something is diluted the more powerful it is. Homeopathists are frequently quoted in news articles saying things like "science just doesn't understand the mechanisms yet"
Chiropractics is not regulated to the same extent (in the UK at least) and reeks of quackery and pseudoscience. Osteopaths fix your bones, chiropractors believe they can fix pretty much anything by popping your bones around.
"Yet you exercise free will. So which is it, do you have free will, or is God non-extant?"
Wow! A new argument. I've been watching these mud slinging christian-vs-athiest 'debates' on the net for about 15 years and I've never heard that one before.
It's another nonsense argument IMHO, but well done for coming up with someone new.
The problem with rationalising religion is you end up going down the path of the god of the gaps, and end up in a philosophical oubliette in which god cannot and does not interfere with anything, ever, but is still all powerful and self-evidently present.
At this point Christianity has been discarded.
If you simply remain credulous and don't question (a request placed upon the followers of many religions, including pagans) then surely that's better and you can accept the message as it's put forward by your superiors. I mean clergy.
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"Rural folks would have to put them down in order to defend themselves."
LOL.
You like rural folks don't you? Even in your twited anti-city mindscape, they'd be quickly overwhelmed by urban zombies.
Who cares?
You catch them cheating in whatever mode, you ban them. Taking people who write the tools to, I will repeat, allow people to mess around with the memory in their own machine, is wrong.
I can just about see how it might be framed as some sort of unlawful hacking if your changes are deliberately trying to mess up Blizzard's network, but it's not a copyright or other IP issue, nor is it reasonable to go after the creators of the cheat hacks.
No, this about lawsuits against people who make tools to mess around with the memory in a machine you own.
In a sane society Blizzard would be laughed out of court.
Cut them off, don't let them use your network, whatever. Lawsuits are a step too far.
Ummm, did you mean SC2?
Otherwise good going!
I loved SC1 and brood war, but Blizzard have gone totally overboard on their assumed ownership of everything your machine does with the software you bought from them.
Limited use license my arse, I should be able to do what the hell I like with it in the confines of my own machine, and distribute tools to allow others to do the same.
Sure, ban me from your servers, whatever, but hands off MY computer.
Umm, that's not actually possible unless they have a certification authority with its cert in your browser and are generating MITM certs for every outgoing SSL connection.
Not beyond the realms of the imaginable, perhaps.
If you meant ssh and they were intercepting the initial setup of the signatures then sure, that's more likely,
I browse facebook via an encrypted tunnel to a private server!
So it probably just looks like I'm funnelling in and out company secrets or something...
What crap is this?
If one group of developers can do it then there's no reason another cannot. Or was just that an excuse for AC mudslinging?
"To you, maybe, but Microsoft could bankrupt itself inventing a machine that causes piles of food to appear in every village in Africa at the push of a button, and it wouldn't come across as philanthropic to Slashdot."
Hey, the guy or girl you're replying to does not speak for slashdot. Neither do I, just to set the record straight.
I don't like MS. I don't like their business practices. I don't like their efforts to frame things like .Net as cross platform. I don't like them when they're actively trying to screw things up for the FOSS world, and I don't like them when they're pretending to be friends. I have mixed feelings about their OS and office products and I try not to spend too much time using either.
All that said, well done Microsoft for this move. This is a good thing. It's perhaps not going to stop bad governments raiding some of these NGOs, but it does remove one more way they could try and cover it up and pretend it was reasonable.
Speak for yourself, or your own car.
My car might not look like a badass but I drove 27000K around the outback in her this year. Cars are just becoming more specialised.
If you are a city dweller and all you do is make short drives between different parts of the city, then you get a small, safe, fuel-efficient pod. If you need to cross rivers, climb mountains, tame deserts or take the kids to school, you get a 4x4. They're still awesome when used to do what they're supposed to do.
Luxury and muscle cars are more expensive, the market is in decline due to a lot of factors. The price of fuel is one.
Who's talking about FOSS licenses?
This discussion is about open standards. And whoever is pushing the open standards (no, it doesn't matter a jot whether it's big blue, redhat, google and what ethical issues they may have or even if they implement the standards properly) the BSA's move here is unethical and just plain wrong.
And please don't mention OOXML opposition in the same ... universe as money and corruption when we all saw how that utter abortion of a non-standard was pushed through.
Eh, most likely, they are plasticised!
Glass jars or fresh toms then. Problem solved.
Ignore the weirdos, normal people use canned tomatoes all the time. In the UK you can now get chopped tomatoes in cardboard cartons, so that's one option if you can find that. Also lookout for Passata and/or sugocasa, usually in large glass jars though may cost a little more.
"Second, 3D television sales have been a disaster, so it's a pointless technology that only works well on a gigantic screen and not a standard sized television."
So bad sales == technology doesn't work?
FAIL.
I'm pretty sure it was invented for people to trade their interests in particular companies at market rates.
"Providing liquidity" is a nebulous description that could mean pretty much anything.
The computer is an actor, empowered by the trading house to make trades for them. It is an agent of a conscious entity.
Your analogy falls apart there, because a gun is a passive item.
This is more like poking a beehive with a stick and collecting the small amounts of honey that drip out. And then the bees got pissed.
Is the "amazing windows mobile 7" shill some sort of meme? Are all the cool kids doing it?
I'm beginning to find it quite amusing. If ever there was a platform that was late to the market and consumers aren't interested in, it's windows mobile.
The ways of business are strange and inscrutable, but in the consumer market who is going to actually purposefully buy a windows phone?
Why would human remains trump badgers?
Why should our emotional attachment to bit of dead folks mean that cute, furry, stripy badgers should be killed?
I don't think it's the twilight zone. The UK has already wiped out pretty much every wild animal it ever had that was larger than a badger. And we like badgers.
"The same could be said for netbooks."
No, it couldn't, they're not an artificial market. You could build a desktop for the money, sure, a crappy one. And then I wouldn't be able to take it in the car with me to play music, or throw it into a bag with my stuff when I go away for a weekend, or 101 other things that I like it to do.
Nothing like the artificial market that specifically calls for a limited device due to a fairly arbitrary set of rules.
Homeopathy does not operate that way. It makes claims about curing illness with like-like interactions, it makes claims about the alleged memory of water, it makes claims that the further something is diluted the more powerful it is. Homeopathists are frequently quoted in news articles saying things like "science just doesn't understand the mechanisms yet"
It's snake oil, through and through.
Previous attempts?
Don't be ridiculous! Apple invented the tablet! And the touchscreen! There can be no others!
I think you're talking about Osteopaths.
Chiropractics is not regulated to the same extent (in the UK at least) and reeks of quackery and pseudoscience. Osteopaths fix your bones, chiropractors believe they can fix pretty much anything by popping your bones around.
Well kinda. Felix isn't a german name though, it's latin. So in German it means Felix Tree Gardener, and maybe in French it means lucky Baumgartner.
"Yet you exercise free will. So which is it, do you have free will, or is God non-extant?"
Wow! A new argument. I've been watching these mud slinging christian-vs-athiest 'debates' on the net for about 15 years and I've never heard that one before.
It's another nonsense argument IMHO, but well done for coming up with someone new.
I can see his point.
The problem with rationalising religion is you end up going down the path of the god of the gaps, and end up in a philosophical oubliette in which god cannot and does not interfere with anything, ever, but is still all powerful and self-evidently present.
At this point Christianity has been discarded.
If you simply remain credulous and don't question (a request placed upon the followers of many religions, including pagans) then surely that's better and you can accept the message as it's put forward by your superiors. I mean clergy.
Personally, I believe God is omnipresent, because I have not been witness to any divine interventions, nor seen tangible evidence of such an event.
Hey, that's the same reason I believe god is omni-absent!