As people have noted above, this case shouldn't even exist. I challenge you to find one mention of mine supporting MS above and beyond the fact that they do in fact deserve to win this lawsuit.
My comments reflected the fact that this case has absolutely no grounds, for multiple reasons. First and foremost is the disclaimer in the MS EULA. Second, the monstrous lack of end-user provided security is obviously the fault which led to infection.
I haven't been talking about Microsoft security versus GNU security when THEY ARE PROPERLY ADMINISTERED. These MS SQL servers were run by the worst admins in the world, obviously, seeing as how I'm about to enter my FRESHMAN year of Computer Systems and Networking and I know vastly more than them.
Perhaps I would even have used MySQL or an open-source equivalent. Don't read between the lines of my posts looking for the secret MS support. It's not there. I support the rule of logic, and this case has no basis in it.
I take it from your attitude that you're not a programmer, or if you are, you have some sort of access to a magical AI that fixes every miniscule bug for you. Bear in mind that this lawsuit is potentially dangerous for every kind of programmer, not just the noodleheads at MS.
Why don't you go take a look at how many remote root exploits exist for GNU software before you decide MS is to blame for all the world's ills. Believe it or not, sysadmins are given lots of little green pieces of paper for keeping their wits about them when it comes to patching and firewalling; this is what we call a JOB.
Maybe those people and businesses affected by Slammer should have gotten their lazy asses in gear and patched and/or firewalled like all the half-decent sysadmins in the world. Great idea, guys, run a SQL server connected to the net.
I hope the Judge kicks these people through the goalposts of life.
iPod: I may be missing something but it looks like an mp3 player to me. Putting a backlight in and loading Solitaire aren't revolutionary. It's small, it's light, but it really isn't all that special.
Desktop *nix: This is true, it's impressive in terms of human engineering and "ergonomics". It may even be the most sophisticated desktop OS there is.
Online music: Worthless to me. I'm a Canadian PC user who can actually hear the difference between 128 (even AAC) and CD. The AAC>CD>mp3 DRM workaround bugs me, a lot. It's called lossy compression for a reason, and at.99 US a song, I can stick to my existing collection of legal music.
I admit the store's a step in the right direction, but further steps are needed, and in my case, these steps need to be taken by a distributor who isn't platform-dependent.
All your points have a solid foundation in logic. Then, the fact that Apple's market share is miniscule must be based on external conditions. Which is true, to a point. Microsoft has got a grip on the PC world. The software industry is in their pocket. But Apple has made a number of choices that were theirs to make, yet have relegated them to a weak financial position. Particularly before Jobs rode back in on his white horse.
BTW, I was under the impression that no advances were made before Jobs' return, that was why he came back, to bail their asses out. Could you give me a link so someplace that has a detailed history?
As a Canuck, I feel obligated to inform you that although I was taught French in the first six years of my schooling, I exercised my willpower as a descendant of the Saxons and forgot it all.
I now speak German and Japanese but not a word of French.:)
My post wasn't meant to be a flame, it was meant to point out the obvious flaws in the parent's suggestions, particularly those pertaining to moving away from MS software. I'm well aware of the ramifications of the story's concept, for example, that you don't need Linux or a Mac to connect to the Internet with a fixed IP. (Holy mother of God the complexity of it all)
However, I maintain that no one is going to listen to someone recommending an alternative computer make or operating system just for simple internet security. If you doubt it, go proselytize your "Switch" doctrine down on the street corners and watch the crowds congregate. (Or not) Windows is in very few ways superior to its alternatives, but as absolutely anyone with any grasp of the computing industry should know by now, people are locked into Windows because of "killer apps".
I'd appreciate if you didn't insist on promulgating the myth that Windows is so terribly insecure and unfit for the Internet. By far the most common ailment, as I understand it, is end-user stupidity; deploying unnecessary services, not firewalling, and clicking on any shiny attachment that ends up in Outlook. What say we wait and see how many Wal-Mart patronizing Lindows users get owned by remote-root exploits before we start slinging accusations?
By the way, in future, I'd appreciate it if anyone deciding to call me an "ass" would be so kind as to refrain from using childish terms like "Windoze", "M$", and their ilk; they really don't reflect level-headed thought.
All: One! chorus line of people,
Dancing till they make us stop,
Willie: Two!
All: Many dancing people,
Covered with blood, gore and glop.
Just one sniff of that fog and you're inside out,
It's worse than that flesh-eating virus you've read about.
Vital organs, they are what we're dressed in.
The family dog is eyeing Bart's intestine.
Happy Halloween!
Come on man, put a little thought into your posts.
He's talking about providing "communal" Internet access for his condominium. With affordable, professionally administered, tech-supported alternatives, such as telco DSL and cable, do you honestly think people are going to spend days (potentially weeks or months) learning a whole new style of computing, just so they can fit into his geek experiment?
I'm a geek for crying out loud, and if getting in on a cool little deal like this meant learning Linux or buying a Mac, and ditching all my commercial software, I'd tell him to hit the road, hard.
Tell me, do you see ads for "Doctor Approved!" penis enlargment in any of the media listed? Those media all advertise for identifiable, accountable corporate entities; scammers can't afford a huge publication of fliers in the Daily Rag, nor could they avoid a law-enforcement backlash after their scam is exposed.
It's due to the anonymous nature of electronic communication that these types are able to sell anything. Regulatory agencies would come down, BLAMMO, on a telemarketer phoning you and screaming pornographic lines at you. Spammers don't ask questions when taking jobs. Newspaper editors and TV commercial producers do.
Sounds like Jobs to me... "Well, let's see... we have an open standard, developed by a community with a vested interest in the well-being and openness of the computer world. It has superior quality at lower bitrates... hah!"
But this is The New Hotness, AAC, as brought to you by the Jobs Reality Distortion field. In a way, I'm surprised he didn't take parts of OGG and wrap them up in a proprietary GUI.:P
I know well about Google.:) As for free porn, I choose other distribution methods.
The link I referred to was Showtime. Those fucks. Are they afraid foreign terrorists will learn the arcane secrets of Penn & Teller, and then proceed to catch American bullets with their teeth?
This is offtopic, but I hit your link and those asswipes blocked me from viewing the page because I live in Canada. What's on it? I'd like to know how it relates to your post.
Ralsky is an idiot. Those Romanians sold him snake oil. It's just run-of-the-mill Messenger popup spam, (not MSN Messenger, the administrative service) which is easily blocked by disabling the service, or by installing virtually any firewall on the face of the planet.
No, no one anywhere, much less in the septuagenarian-dominated legal system, has a clue.
I could provide links to the anti-VPN and NAT laws recently passed, or to the press release where the RIAA describes a Samba search engine as a "Napster-like" program. Hell, I could provide numerous instances in the popular media, even on CNN for example, where Napster is referred to as a WEBSITE for trading files. (That one really makes me gnash my teeth in pain)
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My comments reflected the fact that this case has absolutely no grounds, for multiple reasons. First and foremost is the disclaimer in the MS EULA. Second, the monstrous lack of end-user provided security is obviously the fault which led to infection.
I haven't been talking about Microsoft security versus GNU security when THEY ARE PROPERLY ADMINISTERED. These MS SQL servers were run by the worst admins in the world, obviously, seeing as how I'm about to enter my FRESHMAN year of Computer Systems and Networking and I know vastly more than them.
Perhaps I would even have used MySQL or an open-source equivalent. Don't read between the lines of my posts looking for the secret MS support. It's not there. I support the rule of logic, and this case has no basis in it.
It was supposed to be a joke, mods. ;) Perhaps it was lame enough to warrant the one Troll mark.
I don't see how unplugging your computer is going to be conducive to downloading patches. :)
Why don't you go take a look at how many remote root exploits exist for GNU software before you decide MS is to blame for all the world's ills. Believe it or not, sysadmins are given lots of little green pieces of paper for keeping their wits about them when it comes to patching and firewalling; this is what we call a JOB.
I hope the Judge kicks these people through the goalposts of life.
Please note Tubgirl link in parent. You naughty boy.
They were the contractors he hired after he'd finished his blueprints!
iPod: I may be missing something but it looks like an mp3 player to me. Putting a backlight in and loading Solitaire aren't revolutionary. It's small, it's light, but it really isn't all that special.
Desktop *nix: This is true, it's impressive in terms of human engineering and "ergonomics". It may even be the most sophisticated desktop OS there is.
Online music: Worthless to me. I'm a Canadian PC user who can actually hear the difference between 128 (even AAC) and CD. The AAC>CD>mp3 DRM workaround bugs me, a lot. It's called lossy compression for a reason, and at .99 US a song, I can stick to my existing collection of legal music.
I admit the store's a step in the right direction, but further steps are needed, and in my case, these steps need to be taken by a distributor who isn't platform-dependent.
All your points have a solid foundation in logic. Then, the fact that Apple's market share is miniscule must be based on external conditions. Which is true, to a point. Microsoft has got a grip on the PC world. The software industry is in their pocket. But Apple has made a number of choices that were theirs to make, yet have relegated them to a weak financial position. Particularly before Jobs rode back in on his white horse.
BTW, I was under the impression that no advances were made before Jobs' return, that was why he came back, to bail their asses out. Could you give me a link so someplace that has a detailed history?
Apple Computer 1 year chart.
I now speak German and Japanese but not a word of French. :)
I've actually seen it; they're much too kind. ;)
To paraphrase the boy from "Time Bandits": "Don't touch it, it's EVIL!"
He's getting richer because people have to upgrade their Macs from G3s to G4s to get adequate performance. ;)
Deadly Towers
Bokosuka Wars
Action 52
These are the games that will never be surpassed in craptacularity.
However, I maintain that no one is going to listen to someone recommending an alternative computer make or operating system just for simple internet security. If you doubt it, go proselytize your "Switch" doctrine down on the street corners and watch the crowds congregate. (Or not) Windows is in very few ways superior to its alternatives, but as absolutely anyone with any grasp of the computing industry should know by now, people are locked into Windows because of "killer apps".
I'd appreciate if you didn't insist on promulgating the myth that Windows is so terribly insecure and unfit for the Internet. By far the most common ailment, as I understand it, is end-user stupidity; deploying unnecessary services, not firewalling, and clicking on any shiny attachment that ends up in Outlook. What say we wait and see how many Wal-Mart patronizing Lindows users get owned by remote-root exploits before we start slinging accusations?
By the way, in future, I'd appreciate it if anyone deciding to call me an "ass" would be so kind as to refrain from using childish terms like "Windoze", "M$", and their ilk; they really don't reflect level-headed thought.
All: One! chorus line of people,
Dancing till they make us stop,
Willie: Two!
All: Many dancing people,
Covered with blood, gore and glop.
Just one sniff of that fog and you're inside out, It's worse than that flesh-eating virus you've read about.
Vital organs, they are what we're dressed in. The family dog is eyeing Bart's intestine. Happy Halloween!
He's talking about providing "communal" Internet access for his condominium. With affordable, professionally administered, tech-supported alternatives, such as telco DSL and cable, do you honestly think people are going to spend days (potentially weeks or months) learning a whole new style of computing, just so they can fit into his geek experiment?
I'm a geek for crying out loud, and if getting in on a cool little deal like this meant learning Linux or buying a Mac, and ditching all my commercial software, I'd tell him to hit the road, hard.
For once, someone was actually misquoted. (Rather grievously)
It's due to the anonymous nature of electronic communication that these types are able to sell anything. Regulatory agencies would come down, BLAMMO, on a telemarketer phoning you and screaming pornographic lines at you. Spammers don't ask questions when taking jobs. Newspaper editors and TV commercial producers do.
But this is The New Hotness, AAC, as brought to you by the Jobs Reality Distortion field. In a way, I'm surprised he didn't take parts of OGG and wrap them up in a proprietary GUI. :P
The link I referred to was Showtime. Those fucks. Are they afraid foreign terrorists will learn the arcane secrets of Penn & Teller, and then proceed to catch American bullets with their teeth?
This is offtopic, but I hit your link and those asswipes blocked me from viewing the page because I live in Canada. What's on it? I'd like to know how it relates to your post.
At least it's not Kelvin. IQ 273 herbal Viagra buyers?
Ralsky is an idiot. Those Romanians sold him snake oil. It's just run-of-the-mill Messenger popup spam, (not MSN Messenger, the administrative service) which is easily blocked by disabling the service, or by installing virtually any firewall on the face of the planet.
"Past anything" my ass.
"You are a VIRUS... a cancer... and we are the cure..." ;)
I could provide links to the anti-VPN and NAT laws recently passed, or to the press release where the RIAA describes a Samba search engine as a "Napster-like" program. Hell, I could provide numerous instances in the popular media, even on CNN for example, where Napster is referred to as a WEBSITE for trading files. (That one really makes me gnash my teeth in pain)
But in the end, it would be way too much HTML. :)