ubuntu is almost the same thing as debian, similar selection of software, same text-mode installer - which you want to be using on an old PC, giving you a text-only installation that you supplement by apt-getting a desktop or window manager.
ubuntu mainly gives you a fresh firefox over debian ; if you're going to run firefox then the latest one will use less memory and cpu than an old version. debian may be better if this is not a big concern and you like doing in-place upgrades every two-three years. or you could be using debian testing or sid but only nerds do that.
sorry. communist France?, are you on crack? you won't feel the same when you realise our brand new president, elected on a slogan of "Change!", just handed over the destiny of our country to Angela Merkel. We won't feel the consequences immediately but eventually, our fiscal and economic policy will be run by foreign, powerful and faceless interests (i.e. Goldman Sachs and friends, weapon industry, oil&gas etc.). We'll become a dictatorship, just like the US is.
well it's a small rip off, I pay 36 € per month (38€, minus 2€ for disabling TV, plus 0€ for the one hour cell phone)
I should have taken the ISP (Alice) that does 20€ per month for triple play, then with 2€ per month for the cell phone with the first ISP we're speaking of, that would amount to 22€ not 36, which I quite feel on my minimum income. sadly, Alice didn't have the commercial offer up on its site at the time. this was back when Free, which actually owns Alice, was launching its new offer and box. After that the Alice deal appeared again! so it's not that bad but I've been ripped off 14€ per month for 1.5 year
a friend got a "netbook" with the same hardware, windows CE 6.0. a "Tec T-book". All software outdated, very few of it (wordpad, calculator and that's all), no apparent way to install software - you can browse web archives for old PDA software meant to run on resolutions below 320x240, but what to do with it?
then, the CPU is too slow for smooth playback of SD divx. you can probably play mp3, but on a lame version of windows media player, I prefer a winamp clone. Internet Explorer on it is like browsing with a 486 under windows 3.1. There's was a youtube app! but it was broken, hard-wired to how youtube was a few years ago, it couldn't load or display anything.
it's a total rip off and my friend had paid 79 euros for this. but interestingly, it has better connectivity that a macbook air : three USB, two audio jacks, SD and ethernet! purportedly you can install Android 1.x on it. too bad my buddy got it stolen, I would have tried to do it, and install busybox or something. it can be interesting for a machine only used to ssh in other machines.
now the best about it : it's incredibly light, solid state and fanless. its keyboard and LCD are standard quality - because they are no factories making terrible versions of them. so the display, helped by its small size looked excellent. So, it was both the worst computer ever and had something to it! I noticed a remotely similar computer : Efila MX smartbook, it's 189 euros but has 10", 800MHz ARM cortex, 3G modem, 512MB memory, 16GB flash, good keyboard. It looks awesome and thin, but you lose the ethernet port which is a tragedy.
If you make the food too healthy, they may be too expensive, also parents have spoiled their kids so they do not like healthy food, so they wont eat it, or they will be foods that require fork and spoon and will take too long to eat.
I'm banging my head around this one. if you eat your meal in 30 seconds, this is not healthy, whatever you're eating.
this is awful. I thought the subject was about meals, not snacks? give them a fork and knife, water, maybe a small portion of bread, and don't kick them out of the cafeteria as soon as you've let them in. teach the kids to eat, not to treat their body as a garbage dump. isn't it possible to find at least 15 minutes for a kid to eat?
I've not tried the tech I will mention yet, but if your motherboard includes an IOMMU you can use physical networking and storage controllers on a virtual machine. it works as long the "passed-through" device is PCIe or PCI, be it onboard or on a card. so you can have racks of physical servers, with for instance one VM on each used as a node for your distributed file system. Virtualization still is useful for using the remainder of your physical server's capacity for other purposes. Or so I imagine it to be, as an armchair datacenter IT worker.
the codecs and flash are a god sent sometimes. have a laptop with a dead hard drive?, you can burn a DVD-R and let it in the tray, yet still play mp3, movies and youtube. or I carry a live USB everyday, for installation but sometimes useful for a quick use.
I only briefly tested it, but the Mate edition looks excellent, it's not quirky. it's like the old gnome 2 is back, with no bugs and small applets such as xeyes. it's the editiion to use, works everywhere, no need for a 3D driver to run it. also in a funny way it feels lightweight nowadays, due to most other desktops being really bloated (or xfce not being that much lighter)
Especially awesome is, despite its Windows XP taskbar set up, with the big Mint menu, you can easily add a top panel if you wish, and choose your menu between three styles including the gnome 2 one.
I can't store 1TB of movies and music on the cloud, this would be a very high recurring fee and I would upload data at 120KB/s. a one-time fee for the HDD and another one for the backup HDD is cheaper. I still get to access files from my cheap ass NAS with VIA CPU, even though at 120KB/s from outside but when I get fiber it will be more like 10MB/s.
I do want to get a 4TB HDD for it, RAID is not so good as you still have to buy one or more backup drives so there aren't any savings. maybe put the OS on a SD card so that when the drive fails, my server willl still work. also I could host backups for a few friends on my huge disk - asking them to pay a bit for it.
it's not that minor, if you need to buy a new display for a toy you've just tripled its price instantly. this is why raspi is a no-go for poors, children and the third world.
the culprit is that you will likely have no video acceleration under linux.
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actually, it's a recent thing but 8GB dimm prices have crashed as well. I can get 32GB for 200 euros, if that, and it can go in a regular motherboard with a low end CPU. lga 2011 will net you 64GB, with an i7 3820 and keeping everything cheap you almost build a complete PC with 64GB for 1000 euros.
Linux kernel does not have a standard ABI, in a sense that the way modules communicate with the kernel and each other is not fixed on binary level. Linux as an OS most certainly does have a standard ABI - how else would you be able to take a binary that was compiled 10 years ago (say, a proprietary game), and run it today?
I would love to be able to do that, but you can't anyway. every library under the hood will have changed several times over and you won't be able to run anything except a text adventure or some card game in raw X11 maybe. also if the source code is available, it doesn't compile. I could never play tty quake:P but maybe you can use a 10 year old distro in a VM.
Actually I've had a handset for a year, because VoIP is offered with virtually no added cost. But I had some pioneering offer from the ISP, now more and more widespread, where voice calls to mobile phones are already included in my internet bill (36 EUR per month). So I can call them for free! it even works properly now that I've increased sensibility on the ISP box's web interface. People couldn't fucking hear me before.
The handset is comfortable enough (it's a piece of crap I picked up somewhere), is a useful back up in case of cell phone failure or loss, and I can give the land phone number to people I wouldn't want to have my cell phone number. A win-win-win situation.
In a professionnal or community setting, you can connect an old handset to a computer or a VoIP box, and rent a SIP "line" for one euro per month. or outright buy an IP phone which comes with, you guessed it, a real handset. Everyone in your company gets a desk phone with a real phone number, for a total cost similar to what one land line used to cost. Oh, and in the far future it's probable you could just pick up any handset regardless of who it belongs to and use it with one of your personal identities.
these are CPUs with unlocked multiplier, just as it was before the pentium 2 and Athlon era. only on the expensive models muiltiplier is unlocked though, and other forms of o/c have been severely limited. What does that mean? pretty much only the CPU clock moves, typicaly at default core voltage. No memory and no bus are overclocked : the biggest offenders against data integrity aren't involved in the O/C at all. so it feels pretty safe.
if you choose a motherboard so that it's got a floppy connector, you can plug the 5"1/2 drive right in. have a stack of old floppy drives as backup. BIOS is still there, or BIOS emulation in UEFI. no emulation needed, you can run 80's software right on your 2012 hardware, unless if there are timing bugs. a lowest end sandy bridge or Athlon will boot MS-DOS or FreeDOS just fine.
an option is to buy a standalone touchscreen, it's readily available but very expensive. you can hook up anything to it.
in particular, many nettops or mini computers can be screwed on the back plate through VESA mounts so you can use an ARM net top, an Atom PC, something like the zotac zbox with an AMD E-350, etc. You get to keep the OS choice and double boot if necessary ; just make sure, if you want to try a linux based solution, to get hardware with usable graphics drivers for linux (dunno if atom is better than AMD there)
the touch screen is horribly expensive but you get a total cost similar to an All-in-one. and yes, windows 8 ARM or PC is the best solution, or using XP or 7 in the interim. or android is similar. it has an important checkbox, "can fucking use all functions included in the hardware". sent from my PC with permanently idle H264 decoder and 3D accelerator.
the "People's Liberation Front", which no one has ever heard of till now, can be easily mistaken for the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.
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ubuntu is almost the same thing as debian, similar selection of software, same text-mode installer - which you want to be using on an old PC, giving you a text-only installation that you supplement by apt-getting a desktop or window manager.
ubuntu mainly gives you a fresh firefox over debian ; if you're going to run firefox then the latest one will use less memory and cpu than an old version. debian may be better if this is not a big concern and you like doing in-place upgrades every two-three years. or you could be using debian testing or sid but only nerds do that.
but people may run an old VIA C3 or some other outlier CPU, which would be only i586 or i486.
this sound like a RJ45 serial port with a USB cable that contains an RS232 UART. or god knows what it is but that's no ethernet.
sorry. communist France?, are you on crack? you won't feel the same when you realise our brand new president, elected on a slogan of "Change!", just handed over the destiny of our country to Angela Merkel. We won't feel the consequences immediately but eventually, our fiscal and economic policy will be run by foreign, powerful and faceless interests (i.e. Goldman Sachs and friends, weapon industry, oil&gas etc.). We'll become a dictatorship, just like the US is.
well it's a small rip off, I pay 36 € per month (38€, minus 2€ for disabling TV, plus 0€ for the one hour cell phone)
I should have taken the ISP (Alice) that does 20€ per month for triple play, then with 2€ per month for the cell phone with the first ISP we're speaking of, that would amount to 22€ not 36, which I quite feel on my minimum income. sadly, Alice didn't have the commercial offer up on its site at the time. this was back when Free, which actually owns Alice, was launching its new offer and box. After that the Alice deal appeared again! so it's not that bad but I've been ripped off 14€ per month for 1.5 year
a friend got a "netbook" with the same hardware, windows CE 6.0. a "Tec T-book". All software outdated, very few of it (wordpad, calculator and that's all), no apparent way to install software - you can browse web archives for old PDA software meant to run on resolutions below 320x240, but what to do with it?
then, the CPU is too slow for smooth playback of SD divx. you can probably play mp3, but on a lame version of windows media player, I prefer a winamp clone. Internet Explorer on it is like browsing with a 486 under windows 3.1. There's was a youtube app! but it was broken, hard-wired to how youtube was a few years ago, it couldn't load or display anything.
it's a total rip off and my friend had paid 79 euros for this. but interestingly, it has better connectivity that a macbook air : three USB, two audio jacks, SD and ethernet! purportedly you can install Android 1.x on it. too bad my buddy got it stolen, I would have tried to do it, and install busybox or something. it can be interesting for a machine only used to ssh in other machines.
now the best about it : it's incredibly light, solid state and fanless. its keyboard and LCD are standard quality - because they are no factories making terrible versions of them. so the display, helped by its small size looked excellent. So, it was both the worst computer ever and had something to it! I noticed a remotely similar computer : Efila MX smartbook, it's 189 euros but has 10", 800MHz ARM cortex, 3G modem, 512MB memory, 16GB flash, good keyboard. It looks awesome and thin, but you lose the ethernet port which is a tragedy.
If you make the food too healthy, they may be too expensive, also parents have spoiled their kids so they do not like healthy food, so they wont eat it, or they will be foods that require fork and spoon and will take too long to eat.
I'm banging my head around this one. if you eat your meal in 30 seconds, this is not healthy, whatever you're eating.
this is awful. I thought the subject was about meals, not snacks? give them a fork and knife, water, maybe a small portion of bread, and don't kick them out of the cafeteria as soon as you've let them in. teach the kids to eat, not to treat their body as a garbage dump. isn't it possible to find at least 15 minutes for a kid to eat?
I've not tried the tech I will mention yet, but if your motherboard includes an IOMMU you can use physical networking and storage controllers on a virtual machine. it works as long the "passed-through" device is PCIe or PCI, be it onboard or on a card. so you can have racks of physical servers, with for instance one VM on each used as a node for your distributed file system. Virtualization still is useful for using the remainder of your physical server's capacity for other purposes. Or so I imagine it to be, as an armchair datacenter IT worker.
if your ethernet controller is crappy you'd better disable it and use an old 3COM 100Mb card or something.
the codecs and flash are a god sent sometimes. have a laptop with a dead hard drive?, you can burn a DVD-R and let it in the tray, yet still play mp3, movies and youtube. or I carry a live USB everyday, for installation but sometimes useful for a quick use.
I only briefly tested it, but the Mate edition looks excellent, it's not quirky. it's like the old gnome 2 is back, with no bugs and small applets such as xeyes. it's the editiion to use, works everywhere, no need for a 3D driver to run it. also in a funny way it feels lightweight nowadays, due to most other desktops being really bloated (or xfce not being that much lighter)
Especially awesome is, despite its Windows XP taskbar set up, with the big Mint menu, you can easily add a top panel if you wish, and choose your menu between three styles including the gnome 2 one.
I can't store 1TB of movies and music on the cloud, this would be a very high recurring fee and I would upload data at 120KB/s. a one-time fee for the HDD and another one for the backup HDD is cheaper. I still get to access files from my cheap ass NAS with VIA CPU, even though at 120KB/s from outside but when I get fiber it will be more like 10MB/s.
I do want to get a 4TB HDD for it, RAID is not so good as you still have to buy one or more backup drives so there aren't any savings. maybe put the OS on a SD card so that when the drive fails, my server willl still work. also I could host backups for a few friends on my huge disk - asking them to pay a bit for it.
it's not that minor, if you need to buy a new display for a toy you've just tripled its price instantly. this is why raspi is a no-go for poors, children and the third world.
the culprit is that you will likely have no video acceleration under linux.
actually, it's a recent thing but 8GB dimm prices have crashed as well. I can get 32GB for 200 euros, if that, and it can go in a regular motherboard with a low end CPU. lga 2011 will net you 64GB, with an i7 3820 and keeping everything cheap you almost build a complete PC with 64GB for 1000 euros.
Linux kernel does not have a standard ABI, in a sense that the way modules communicate with the kernel and each other is not fixed on binary level. Linux as an OS most certainly does have a standard ABI - how else would you be able to take a binary that was compiled 10 years ago (say, a proprietary game), and run it today?
I would love to be able to do that, but you can't anyway. every library under the hood will have changed several times over and you won't be able to run anything except a text adventure or some card game in raw X11 maybe. also if the source code is available, it doesn't compile. I could never play tty quake :P but maybe you can use a 10 year old distro in a VM.
Actually I've had a handset for a year, because VoIP is offered with virtually no added cost. But I had some pioneering offer from the ISP, now more and more widespread, where voice calls to mobile phones are already included in my internet bill (36 EUR per month). So I can call them for free! it even works properly now that I've increased sensibility on the ISP box's web interface. People couldn't fucking hear me before.
The handset is comfortable enough (it's a piece of crap I picked up somewhere), is a useful back up in case of cell phone failure or loss, and I can give the land phone number to people I wouldn't want to have my cell phone number. A win-win-win situation.
In a professionnal or community setting, you can connect an old handset to a computer or a VoIP box, and rent a SIP "line" for one euro per month. or outright buy an IP phone which comes with, you guessed it, a real handset. Everyone in your company gets a desk phone with a real phone number, for a total cost similar to what one land line used to cost. Oh, and in the far future it's probable you could just pick up any handset regardless of who it belongs to and use it with one of your personal identities.
ha, I ententered 20th april 1889 on that birthdate form.
these are CPUs with unlocked multiplier, just as it was before the pentium 2 and Athlon era. only on the expensive models muiltiplier is unlocked though, and other forms of o/c have been severely limited. What does that mean? pretty much only the CPU clock moves, typicaly at default core voltage. No memory and no bus are overclocked : the biggest offenders against data integrity aren't involved in the O/C at all. so it feels pretty safe.
it's sad not to have that great little music playing. the music playback seems improved too.
else this is the first 3D javascript game ever that runs acceptably!, though I have a fast PC (athlon II X2).
if you choose a motherboard so that it's got a floppy connector, you can plug the 5"1/2 drive right in. have a stack of old floppy drives as backup. BIOS is still there, or BIOS emulation in UEFI. no emulation needed, you can run 80's software right on your 2012 hardware, unless if there are timing bugs. a lowest end sandy bridge or Athlon will boot MS-DOS or FreeDOS just fine.
debian is too much outdated for a brand new laptop, and for the other distros : .rpm? are we stuck in the 90s?
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sadly linux stands no chance, that's because we don't know what a "MFG" means. :P
an option is to buy a standalone touchscreen, it's readily available but very expensive. you can hook up anything to it.
in particular, many nettops or mini computers can be screwed on the back plate through VESA mounts so you can use an ARM net top, an Atom PC, something like the zotac zbox with an AMD E-350, etc. You get to keep the OS choice and double boot if necessary ; just make sure, if you want to try a linux based solution, to get hardware with usable graphics drivers for linux (dunno if atom is better than AMD there)
the touch screen is horribly expensive but you get a total cost similar to an All-in-one. and yes, windows 8 ARM or PC is the best solution, or using XP or 7 in the interim. or android is similar. it has an important checkbox, "can fucking use all functions included in the hardware". sent from my PC with permanently idle H264 decoder and 3D accelerator.
oh, I thought Palestinians did it!
the "People's Liberation Front", which no one has ever heard of till now, can be easily mistaken for the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.