Programs from the 70s that run on linux still are updated and maintained, though. Try to run something that uses GTK1 (xmms was a good example), or some other wildly outdated library, or perhaps even something that will only work with libfoo-1.4 and not libfoo-1.5 : it won't run or compile.
How can you be saying it is 0.467 times smaller? That doesn't mean anything according to the language police and worse, that must mean it's 2.14 times bigger!
You have put data on the net in clear, I've found it and here is the proof:
Seriously.. I don't put data on the web, in the cloud or anyplace I don't completely control and monitor unless it is absolutely necessary. IF it's necessary, it only goes encrypted. So here are my rules...
1. Don't put data on the net if you can help it. Avoid it at nearly costs.
2. When you *do* need/want to put data on the net, ENCRYPT it first, even if it's not sensitive.
3. NEVER put sensitive data on the net unless you have no other choices, then encrypted it using the best encryption possible.
4. REMOVE any and all data on the net you have no more need for right away.
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Some people have an iMac and only run the web browser on it.
I think Unity is fine for the same limited kind of use. It's literally a left-side launcher for Firefox and Libre Office, and a bar for clock and wifi and shit.
There are similar ideas about sending spent water from the shower to the toilet, or plumbing that uses rain water. But the costs of installing and maintaining separate, additional, parallel plumbing makes such schemes counter-productive. Worse, with more pipes around you will end up with more leaks.
48V DC in the home sounds kind of neat though. Not sure if it is worth it. About half an amp (like Power over Ethernet) is plenty for a lamp, a speaker or amp, a monitor or a low power desktop or laptop.
Bring e10s and kill the old extensions, even XUL if it be although I've always liked it.
Likely most everyone is fed up now, users are less technical than ever too and so good luck explaining them that the browser making 5-second pauses all the time is good for them. On a former story's comment someone compared it to Mac OS 9, which is about right. Mac OS 9 was a consumer OS from the 1980s, but sold around 1999. It was killing the parent company.
I'm sorry for you people with extension XYZ but extensions are updated, rewritten, replaced by something else or just die. There may be workarounds too : install developer or custom edition, disable e10s, install the unsigned old extension. I do fine with a handful vital extensions instead of hoarding them. In fact over the years Firefox incorporated features such as crash recovery, opening text-only links etc. though there's been some dumb crap (removing setting to disable images? etc.) And Flash doesn't even get killed yet if you still want it. Yes I'm a fairly traditional user (most applications must have a menu bar), tradition includes having Flash available and I still kind of like it.
Sometimes, physical access to the machine is the whole point of having that machine around. You provide local keyboard, mouse, monitor or even worse things to annoying and/or weird walking meatsacks called "users".
32 bit saves memory use and storage (the latter by not needing duplicate libraries for running both 32 bit and 64 bit software)
That makes it still important. Same thing on a random old 64bit-capable desktop : they're mostly starved for RAM so running a 32 bit OS (or at least 32 bit Firefox) is very much worth it. "Every processor runs 64 bit" and "RAM is cheap" are pointless arguments when you're stuck at 1GB or 2GB and there's no way or cheap way around it.
Yes when watching the original again it's amazing how few lines Obi-Wan says in the entire movies. Perhaps the conversation felt deep when watching as kid even though it's very short. I still want to believe the movie is about Obi-Wan. It's something that can happen in real life. You encounter an old man that you instantly recognise as trustworthy and caring, like some aura is emanating of him. Benevolence and well-being, wisdom.
That's about the opposite of depictions of old people as old-fashioned, bigoted, inflexible, repulsive or downright evil (e.g. the big bad corporate executive, the remorseless senator or vice-president that has shady deals with the aliens and a rogue intelligence organization, etc.)
Nope, Obi-Wan is your ideal grandpa or dad right away, or that one teacher that got a full classroom of whiny bastard children complying from the first to the last day, doing nothing other than, er, teaching.
Yes, but you, your kids, your spouse, your visitors, etc. can all do that at the same time without slowing down. As video streaming is taking off, you can all stream in HD without stuttering.
But the upload bandwidth is unchanged and so is the latency. Every time you load a web page and it makes a billion requests to load images, ads and scripts there's a latency round trip for each element ; at 20Mb/s down, 1Mb/s up the TCP acknowledgment packets become a problem too (if your HD streaming is done in UDP, good)
I would choose a 10/10 connection with 15 ms latency over a 20/1 with 30 to 40 ms latency any day.
This happened in old days too. Take a Celeron 300A, itself a Pentium II variant that was as fast as a Pentium II anyway ; put the bus at 100MHz instead of 66MHz.
I had the Celeron 500 instead : put the bus at 75MHz instead of 66MHz. That wasn't as dramatic but directly translated to framerate increase in Quake 3 games. 83MHz worked at the cost of more or less slowly killing the motherboard.
In older days overclocking was about unheard of because it was pre-internet days (including all of the 90s in most countries because dial up was expensive). Could have had a DX2/66 @ 80 (and some upgrades)
Any recommendation from say, Mozilla? So, you were proudly making a non-spyware cell phone OS and now you're abruptly announcing you're quitting? I guess that means that if we wish to run a smartphone, then we need to run a spyware OS. Well, crap. Was waiting for version 2.5 : now that looked promising. Also waiting for 1GB RAM, or 768MB RAM, to be on a bit more of a safe side.
I will simply continue to use and recommend using a dumb phone, but what about eventually needing a "smart" one for business reasons? Bringing the Internet to homeless people, or whatever?
This phone was a horrid failure, but ZTE Open C was well received, with 512MB RAM. I was waiting for the next ZTE, Open L, with 1GB RAM and FF OS 2.x out of the box. I guess the launch won't happen although the phone does exist.
The logical conclusion is that nuclear reactors and plants have to be owned, insured and operated by the State (which I've capitalized on purpose haha, but well any company or agency gets a capital letter too.)
There is not even any incompatibility with capitalism : about any country on Earth has a plural economy that involves the State or government, free markets and companies of varied size and kind, public agencies, panhandlers, self-employed individuals, employees, black market labor, crime, non-profits and even tasks like house keeping and gardening, and gifts.
Capitalistic approaches are likely to be needed and welcome : "cost reduction" is what real environmentalism should be about (e.g. spending $30k instead of $20k on a car is "green" according to the general media, but spending $500 on a bicycle is greener still. Guess which is cheaper) The ideological rigidity that poses a threat is that in the camp of deregulate everything, privatize everything, free trade everything. "Freedom" indeed.
Exactly, this is even the heart of the problem. It's easy for governments and organizations to communicate about everyday "acts" or gestures" you can do to help but not only it is meaningless in the end : it's becoming outright fraud, not only as a cover for inaction but as an extension of the dominant, individualist neoliberal ideology. It is like believing that getting rid of collective bargaining will help workers negociate better pay, safety and working conditions : that doesn't happen.
Let's take the problem of cars as an example. I propose a simple measure, ban cars more powerful than 100 HP or 100kW. Make them not even street legal. Doesn't change fuck all for 80-90% of the population (at least in non-US countries) and a perfect step to signify that no one deserve the privilege to waste so much energy on personal transportation. There's likely fuck all chance for that to happen e.g. in the European Union (although it is the land of feel-good self-righteousness) and harm the Mercedes, BMW etc. industries (and turn Ferrari back into a racing-only house, etc.) moreover the famous, the rich and the over-spending middle class ones "need" their "glamorous", "manly" or "pedigree" vehicles. But we need not accept defeat before the fight.
The smartphone is a full-fledged computer, that's true and I will be the first to point out that computer are computers not appliances, but it's also a computer where you have no keyboard or mouse and that you can't boot from a USB drive. Immediacy is rewarded, not customer's intelligence, we're asked to be turned into idiot button mashers (without the button). Even the ridiculous and long-winded EULA is lost : at installation of a program you're asked to allow a blanket authorization for reading your contacts and text messages and they won't tell why.
The equivalent in the 90s would have been that to run some Windows 3.1 or 95 freeware, you have to mail (to the US, over the ocean) photocopies of your phone book, letters you received and sent in the past month and your identifying details like name, address, SSN, mother's maiden name etc. That's ridiculous, so why would it be better now?
Mozilla's browser-only OS would likely have suffered some of the usual issues, e.g. a security update should take a couple days at most to get to the phone, not a six month wait for the phone manufacturer to publish it through its channel. But there's just less stuff running if there's only the browser, so that's an obvious plus for security. The only phone that's more secure than that is a phone that doesn't run a browser at all.
What happens is Windows software and antiviruses are bundled with Chrome, and most people end up with it installed. That and 80% smartphone users use a Google browser, though often just called "Internet" or "Browser".
Do you get linux drivers for it?, I mean without 3D acceleration (OpenGL) and without wifi but with wired ethernet still it would be fine ; but if you get a blank screen it's not nice and what such a device maybe lacks is a RS232 port that gives a serial console. I may be unfair here : Mali GPU do get some support but what about the specific SoC?
If you intend to get a GNU userland running under Android thus negating most driver concerns, then why not, but the underlying Android OS will probably not get timely security updates.
For all the petty dislikes I may have against the Raspberry Pis, they do get huge community support so you can run straight GNU/Linux or even BSD or other. ODROID have some favorable reputation. Banana Pi? Some PC hardware is not far at all in price (486 + BIOS or Atom + UEFI). Some complete 20 euro solution without special tricks would be great if we just want it to respond to pings, ssh and serve static or better html. I guess we'll get there eventually. Android computers are a bit like CP/M of old : they run the same software but CP/M machines needed their own custom BIOS (and warts of the time such as a hundred different floppy formats). End result you get a CP/M version tailored to your hardware and floppy. With MS-DOS machines except early ones the BIOS were compatible (and we ended up with 360KB floppy, 1.2MB, 720kB etc.) so you ran unmodified OS on unmodified machines of any vendor. I think we may get there : we'll have ARM + UEFI little boxes like we have x86 + UEFI ones. (and even MIPS + UEFI, etc.)
We do have it easy even in the current situation because a lot of things are extremely standardized : USB, eMMC, SD, ethernet, Wifi, HDMI, VGA, PCIe. File systems too. It's beautiful that things can be used without special consideration.
It's a travesty, but then Kodi likely ought to transcode the TrueHD or DTS-MA to DTS or AC3 or the other one (for DTS-MA to DTS a quick lookup tells it's trivial : DTS-MA includes a DTS stream). High quality lossy ought to be acceptable.. 24 bit, 96KHz sound actually is useless : it is mathematically and physically proven that 16/48 playback gives the absolute best quality that can be heard. It sucks but transcoding the sound on the fly would be a solution if it's easily doable.
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Programs from the 70s that run on linux still are updated and maintained, though.
Try to run something that uses GTK1 (xmms was a good example), or some other wildly outdated library, or perhaps even something that will only work with libfoo-1.4 and not libfoo-1.5 : it won't run or compile.
How can you be saying it is 0.467 times smaller? That doesn't mean anything according to the language police and worse, that must mean it's 2.14 times bigger!
How about making them smaller in the x and y directions? Or why not have a keypad at least.
Maybe opening the MP3 would work in a web browser too.
You have put data on the net in clear, I've found it and here is the proof :
Seriously.. I don't put data on the web, in the cloud or anyplace I don't completely control and monitor unless it is absolutely necessary. IF it's necessary, it only goes encrypted. So here are my rules...
1. Don't put data on the net if you can help it. Avoid it at nearly costs.
2. When you *do* need/want to put data on the net, ENCRYPT it first, even if it's not sensitive.
3. NEVER put sensitive data on the net unless you have no other choices, then encrypted it using the best encryption possible.
4. REMOVE any and all data on the net you have no more need for right away.
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Don't be a pessimist. It wouldn't work anyway...
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And what about the VPN's monthly bill? Or alternatively, VPN provider spying on you.
And do you know how to enable a VPN on a random touchscreen cell phone?, with ten different Android versions and a few different crappy GUIs.
Some people have an iMac and only run the web browser on it.
I think Unity is fine for the same limited kind of use.
It's literally a left-side launcher for Firefox and Libre Office, and a bar for clock and wifi and shit.
Debian and Ubuntu are what, half of desktop Linux use?
Ubuntu has many editions that differ by the desktop they run, out of the box. Thus no need to set up a theme, configuration etc.
- Unity
- KDE
- Xfce
- LXDE
- Gnome 3
- Mate
Then there's Mint :
- Mint Cinnamon
- Mint Mate
- Mint Xfce
- Mint KDE
Then there's lesser known stuff out there.
I don't understand. It's like saying you don't like anchovies, so you won't eat pizza, while staring at a list of 10 anchovy-less pizzas.
There are similar ideas about sending spent water from the shower to the toilet, or plumbing that uses rain water. But the costs of installing and maintaining separate, additional, parallel plumbing makes such schemes counter-productive. Worse, with more pipes around you will end up with more leaks.
48V DC in the home sounds kind of neat though. Not sure if it is worth it. About half an amp (like Power over Ethernet) is plenty for a lamp, a speaker or amp, a monitor or a low power desktop or laptop.
Bring e10s and kill the old extensions, even XUL if it be although I've always liked it.
Likely most everyone is fed up now, users are less technical than ever too and so good luck explaining them that the browser making 5-second pauses all the time is good for them.
On a former story's comment someone compared it to Mac OS 9, which is about right. Mac OS 9 was a consumer OS from the 1980s, but sold around 1999. It was killing the parent company.
I'm sorry for you people with extension XYZ but extensions are updated, rewritten, replaced by something else or just die. There may be workarounds too : install developer or custom edition, disable e10s, install the unsigned old extension.
I do fine with a handful vital extensions instead of hoarding them. In fact over the years Firefox incorporated features such as crash recovery, opening text-only links etc. though there's been some dumb crap (removing setting to disable images? etc.)
And Flash doesn't even get killed yet if you still want it. Yes I'm a fairly traditional user (most applications must have a menu bar), tradition includes having Flash available and I still kind of like it.
Sometimes, physical access to the machine is the whole point of having that machine around. You provide local keyboard, mouse, monitor or even worse things to annoying and/or weird walking meatsacks called "users".
32 bit saves memory use and storage (the latter by not needing duplicate libraries for running both 32 bit and 64 bit software)
That makes it still important. Same thing on a random old 64bit-capable desktop : they're mostly starved for RAM so running a 32 bit OS (or at least 32 bit Firefox) is very much worth it.
"Every processor runs 64 bit" and "RAM is cheap" are pointless arguments when you're stuck at 1GB or 2GB and there's no way or cheap way around it.
We need to find Highlander, he knows a thing about making some sort of "atmosphere shield".
Yes when watching the original again it's amazing how few lines Obi-Wan says in the entire movies.
Perhaps the conversation felt deep when watching as kid even though it's very short.
I still want to believe the movie is about Obi-Wan. It's something that can happen in real life. You encounter an old man that you instantly recognise as trustworthy and caring, like some aura is emanating of him. Benevolence and well-being, wisdom.
That's about the opposite of depictions of old people as old-fashioned, bigoted, inflexible, repulsive or downright evil (e.g. the big bad corporate executive, the remorseless senator or vice-president that has shady deals with the aliens and a rogue intelligence organization, etc.)
Nope, Obi-Wan is your ideal grandpa or dad right away, or that one teacher that got a full classroom of whiny bastard children complying from the first to the last day, doing nothing other than, er, teaching.
It's 1000Mbps although with no guarantee you will get it (mmm, guarantee, warranty? why are there two forms of the same word?)
I guess that many customers will simply connect using a 100BaseT network interface, or use a 100BaseT switch somewhere in the chain. And that's fine.
Yes, but you, your kids, your spouse, your visitors, etc. can all do that at the same time without slowing down. As video streaming is taking off, you can all stream in HD without stuttering.
But the upload bandwidth is unchanged and so is the latency.
Every time you load a web page and it makes a billion requests to load images, ads and scripts there's a latency round trip for each element ; at 20Mb/s down, 1Mb/s up the TCP acknowledgment packets become a problem too (if your HD streaming is done in UDP, good)
I would choose a 10/10 connection with 15 ms latency over a 20/1 with 30 to 40 ms latency any day.
This happened in old days too.
Take a Celeron 300A, itself a Pentium II variant that was as fast as a Pentium II anyway ; put the bus at 100MHz instead of 66MHz.
I had the Celeron 500 instead : put the bus at 75MHz instead of 66MHz. That wasn't as dramatic but directly translated to framerate increase in Quake 3 games. 83MHz worked at the cost of more or less slowly killing the motherboard.
In older days overclocking was about unheard of because it was pre-internet days (including all of the 90s in most countries because dial up was expensive). Could have had a DX2/66 @ 80 (and some upgrades)
Any recommendation from say, Mozilla?
So, you were proudly making a non-spyware cell phone OS and now you're abruptly announcing you're quitting? I guess that means that if we wish to run a smartphone, then we need to run a spyware OS. Well, crap.
Was waiting for version 2.5 : now that looked promising. Also waiting for 1GB RAM, or 768MB RAM, to be on a bit more of a safe side.
I will simply continue to use and recommend using a dumb phone, but what about eventually needing a "smart" one for business reasons? Bringing the Internet to homeless people, or whatever?
This phone was a horrid failure, but ZTE Open C was well received, with 512MB RAM.
I was waiting for the next ZTE, Open L, with 1GB RAM and FF OS 2.x out of the box. I guess the launch won't happen although the phone does exist.
The logical conclusion is that nuclear reactors and plants have to be owned, insured and operated by the State (which I've capitalized on purpose haha, but well any company or agency gets a capital letter too.)
There is not even any incompatibility with capitalism : about any country on Earth has a plural economy that involves the State or government, free markets and companies of varied size and kind, public agencies, panhandlers, self-employed individuals, employees, black market labor, crime, non-profits and even tasks like house keeping and gardening, and gifts.
Capitalistic approaches are likely to be needed and welcome : "cost reduction" is what real environmentalism should be about (e.g. spending $30k instead of $20k on a car is "green" according to the general media, but spending $500 on a bicycle is greener still. Guess which is cheaper)
The ideological rigidity that poses a threat is that in the camp of deregulate everything, privatize everything, free trade everything. "Freedom" indeed.
Exactly, this is even the heart of the problem. It's easy for governments and organizations to communicate about everyday "acts" or gestures" you can do to help but not only it is meaningless in the end : it's becoming outright fraud, not only as a cover for inaction but as an extension of the dominant, individualist neoliberal ideology.
It is like believing that getting rid of collective bargaining will help workers negociate better pay, safety and working conditions : that doesn't happen.
Let's take the problem of cars as an example. I propose a simple measure, ban cars more powerful than 100 HP or 100kW. Make them not even street legal. Doesn't change fuck all for 80-90% of the population (at least in non-US countries) and a perfect step to signify that no one deserve the privilege to waste so much energy on personal transportation.
There's likely fuck all chance for that to happen e.g. in the European Union (although it is the land of feel-good self-righteousness) and harm the Mercedes, BMW etc. industries (and turn Ferrari back into a racing-only house, etc.) moreover the famous, the rich and the over-spending middle class ones "need" their "glamorous", "manly" or "pedigree" vehicles. But we need not accept defeat before the fight.
I wanted a fancy terminal.
The smartphone is a full-fledged computer, that's true and I will be the first to point out that computer are computers not appliances, but it's also a computer where you have no keyboard or mouse and that you can't boot from a USB drive. Immediacy is rewarded, not customer's intelligence, we're asked to be turned into idiot button mashers (without the button). Even the ridiculous and long-winded EULA is lost : at installation of a program you're asked to allow a blanket authorization for reading your contacts and text messages and they won't tell why.
The equivalent in the 90s would have been that to run some Windows 3.1 or 95 freeware, you have to mail (to the US, over the ocean) photocopies of your phone book, letters you received and sent in the past month and your identifying details like name, address, SSN, mother's maiden name etc. That's ridiculous, so why would it be better now?
Mozilla's browser-only OS would likely have suffered some of the usual issues, e.g. a security update should take a couple days at most to get to the phone, not a six month wait for the phone manufacturer to publish it through its channel. But there's just less stuff running if there's only the browser, so that's an obvious plus for security. The only phone that's more secure than that is a phone that doesn't run a browser at all.
What happens is Windows software and antiviruses are bundled with Chrome, and most people end up with it installed. That and 80% smartphone users use a Google browser, though often just called "Internet" or "Browser".
Do you get linux drivers for it?, I mean without 3D acceleration (OpenGL) and without wifi but with wired ethernet still it would be fine ; but if you get a blank screen it's not nice and what such a device maybe lacks is a RS232 port that gives a serial console. I may be unfair here : Mali GPU do get some support but what about the specific SoC?
If you intend to get a GNU userland running under Android thus negating most driver concerns, then why not, but the underlying Android OS will probably not get timely security updates.
For all the petty dislikes I may have against the Raspberry Pis, they do get huge community support so you can run straight GNU/Linux or even BSD or other.
ODROID have some favorable reputation. Banana Pi?
Some PC hardware is not far at all in price (486 + BIOS or Atom + UEFI).
Some complete 20 euro solution without special tricks would be great if we just want it to respond to pings, ssh and serve static or better html. I guess we'll get there eventually.
Android computers are a bit like CP/M of old : they run the same software but CP/M machines needed their own custom BIOS (and warts of the time such as a hundred different floppy formats). End result you get a CP/M version tailored to your hardware and floppy. With MS-DOS machines except early ones the BIOS were compatible (and we ended up with 360KB floppy, 1.2MB, 720kB etc.) so you ran unmodified OS on unmodified machines of any vendor. I think we may get there : we'll have ARM + UEFI little boxes like we have x86 + UEFI ones. (and even MIPS + UEFI, etc.)
We do have it easy even in the current situation because a lot of things are extremely standardized : USB, eMMC, SD, ethernet, Wifi, HDMI, VGA, PCIe. File systems too. It's beautiful that things can be used without special consideration.
It's a travesty, but then Kodi likely ought to transcode the TrueHD or DTS-MA to DTS or AC3 or the other one (for DTS-MA to DTS a quick lookup tells it's trivial : DTS-MA includes a DTS stream).
High quality lossy ought to be acceptable.. 24 bit, 96KHz sound actually is useless : it is mathematically and physically proven that 16/48 playback gives the absolute best quality that can be heard.
It sucks but transcoding the sound on the fly would be a solution if it's easily doable.