After admining many of these machines and becoming an expert of sorts, I can rebuild one of these after an intrustion in a few minutes and have it patched.
I know all about them.pkg files, I have built and released quite a few internally for customers in need of patches now, not when Sun/Cobalt felt like it.
I know how to get a borked interface working again, all the tell tale signs of an exploit, placating customers as they plead and ask why their was an intrusion as they patch it the minute Cobalt releases a patch.
The hardware in the raq3 and 4 servers look like a modified laptop design minus video.
Actually I'm probably wrong about this, but laptops have better performance for the same spec processor.
On the units with SCSI why are the drives IDE?
What exactly is the PCI slot for?
I have seen so many fail right out of the box, sometimes 2 out of the carton of 5 with the rest failing over the next 6 months.
The perl scripting was totally horrid, the web interface runs as root, why isn't dns in the postgres database, why does it have it's own unique flat file.
All the commands and tecniques I used were unsupported, the backup through the web interface was broken for sometime before they fixed it, tho I fixed the mangled backup and made them work anyway. These machines were unsupported if you wanted them to actually work correctly, the interface fell short in so many areas as to be useless. Let's not forget the main webserver authenticating through PAM by default......why??
I can go into many more reasons why I hate these machines, they certainly don't fail safe, fill the disk up with logs and watch as the machine borks all of it's conf files.
Bad engineering all around.
I am glad to see them go, while Sun may not be perfect, these little bastard appliances gave Sun a black eye in my view.
I thought Sun might be able to put them back on track, they did by disco'ing them.
A Cobalt rep (pre Sun) paid us a visit to show fail-over in a demo....it just failed...I asked her if they were designed in someone's garage, she said basicly yes.....2 Billion dollars later this realization hits Sun.
I don't guess you've ever admin'd a major mail machine, well that little computation on every piece of inbound mail would add quite a bit to the system load.
It only takes a little bit extra added here or there to make a system inefficient, this little extra calculation would add quite a bit with thousands of pieces of mail per minute passing through a mail machine, now add an extra bit of work for the MTA, now follow the ruleset for mail that doesn't match the key, now run that through the existing spam filters. It would make hardware vendors happy, likely not sys-admins just trying to keep old hardware running with all the belt tightening that has happened since the bust.
Then again you'd be a fool to run anything Microsoft without something like an Alteon in front of them.
Wow, really funny, I have been running SuSE for 5 years now, and never had any of the lockups you mention.
What are you killing, why are you killing it, and do you know where the problem actually is or are you randomly killing stuff.
XP does keep the neophyte user from killing anything important, but this also keeps the experienced user's hands tied.
The only way to properly admin a Windows box is from the command line with a handful of VB or Perl Scripts, the GUI is useless, and isn't this totally anti-windows not to use the GUI for everything.
A UNIXish machine is easier to properly admin when I need to script to change configurations not accessable from the GUI (I'm actually doing this to remove the inconsistancies of the GUI for reproducable results).
Yep, I think this will happen soon, with the demise of my series 1 directtivo there is now a definite need to work on them surface mount skillz to add an offboard rom so I can do the magic. TiVo has likely even closed the holes that were present on the series 2
I'm thinking his credit report came back bad, I've known people who have been hired, then lost their jobs due to a bad credit report, it's used the same way your car insurance company hikes your rates if your credit goes bad, statisticly speaking you're now in with a class of people that don't really care if they mash a ferrari every other day. Err.... what I'm trying to say is a lack of responsibility, he should see if there was an inquiry on his credit report.
Then consider how much these chip fabs cost, last I read they were several billion dollars, so if the market is 100billion I don't know how this can really continue much further economicly.
Scientists, Engineers, Accountants, Lawyers, The Blue Man Group, you start to wonder how there is any room left for profit.
The Zero cases seem to be the best made ones around, I have just purchased a shiny new powerbook, and it is going to be in a zero case.
When you consider how much work is on your laptop, the amount you paid for it, the zero case is really worth it.
Zero Cases is the parent company, this is to give you an idea of who they are, not your normal luggage company. In movies it is the preferred briefcase of drug dealers, money launderers and the case to put that high tech blinky thing in. You really need to see one in person to appreciate them.
here is a link to the one my power book is going in. Gun Metal Grey to avoid the scratches of the aluminum one, it comes with a shoulder strap, it has a neoprene gasket to keep moisture out, something like 400lbs of force to seperate the hinges on the case and the extrusion of the case makes it very strong.
But then again, this is my livelyhood so a $300 case is a small price to pay to protect the laptop and my paperwork.
There's some money to be made following standards, there's more money to be made creating them. China is a huge country, it's in their national interest to do so.
Yes, I remember it well, I was one of the sysadmins who was banging my head against the desk as everyone yelled and screamed about no connectivity. All of our providers went down in one fell swoop, nasty.
What is important though is many of us have been here for some time, my family from 1635, even if something does happen we'd fight again to have the republic rebuilt.
It will never end, we survived being the underdogs for hundreds of years before we became powerful, we've slogged through it before, we can do it again.
No, I don't wave the flag, I do vote, it is my country with everyone else, there is no need for patriotism lest of all nationalism.
Not to say those accustomed to creature comforts will be happy, but that's not my problem, hehe imagine most people without any credit.....oh the horror:-)
Immigrants give us power, they are the ones that allow us to reinvent ourselves and inject new viewpoints(like the spread of the Spanish language), it was once Indian, European, African, then Asian, now South American, the best Americans are mutts.
Well, the only thing I hope happens is the same that occurred in many other industries, which is the American companies move out, piss off all their customers, fire all their American employees and foreign companies move in and hire Americans, show some loyalty and get it in return with more efficiency and quality.
Public American corporations suck, short term profits to forgo long-range strategy. Here comes Toyota, with most production made here, ready to beat Fnord down.
Perpetual downsizing is their future, soon they will be aquired by smarter foreign companies, more than likely Indian.
Really what needs to be outsourced are the top multimillion dollar positions.
It is not exactly a nuclear attack, but many weapons containing Depleted Uranium were used in Iraq, both in 1991 and in the recent conflict. It is not only affecting Iraqis, but American Troops as well.
Well, it punches big holes in armour due to it's density, we could use other things in the sabot like tungsten, but it's a good way to move spent fuel out of the country into someone else's backyard for free (actually billions).
Enlisting in the Military has some risks to it, anyone not thinking of those risks are the men the military desires. The risks to those we occupy are non-negotiable.
I think at the rate technology is advancing in 30 years it would be possible for someone to create a strain of HIV that is airbourne.
That would be a garage doomsday device, it would spread world-wide and noone would be the wiser for at least a few months.
This is my fear, not nuclear, but biological weapons using viri made by a lunatic in the woods, far worse than the Unibomber, but with the same motives.
The Virge seemed to only have the ability to draw still scenes, at least that's what it did with quake. That is my last memory of S3
The Diamond Stealth VRAM VESA localbus in 1994(S3) was a nice 2-d card, though that VRAM was super expensive, it made the cheapo dram cards look like toys, actually including the PCI S3 Virge in 2-D performance. It looked at the time like they were going under and this new NVidia company had some fairly kickass video cards, I thought Riva was a scooter.
I learned what a modeline was on that Diamiond, and why I should forever hate X
Well, the actually are hackable, the best hack I've seen so far is to burn another rom, it's been sometime since I've had a rom burner, since my series 1 direcxtivo just died I very well maybe buying another rom burner. This will be the 5th TiVo:-)
If you have the burner it looks fairly simple...for the slashdot crowd.
Yes, I imagine it did.....look just like a strip club, was it complete with expensive drinks served in thimble sized glasses and women that look as if they fell from that guys bike that says "If you can read this the bitch fell off"
Slashdot Mirror
After admining many of these machines and becoming an expert of sorts, I can rebuild one of these after an intrustion in a few minutes and have it patched.
.pkg files, I have built and released quite a few internally for customers in need of patches now, not when Sun/Cobalt felt like it.
I know all about them
I know how to get a borked interface working again, all the tell tale signs of an exploit, placating customers as they plead and ask why their was an intrusion as they patch it the minute Cobalt releases a patch.
The hardware in the raq3 and 4 servers look like a modified laptop design minus video.
Actually I'm probably wrong about this, but laptops have better performance for the same spec processor.
On the units with SCSI why are the drives IDE?
What exactly is the PCI slot for?
I have seen so many fail right out of the box, sometimes 2 out of the carton of 5 with the rest failing over the next 6 months.
The perl scripting was totally horrid, the web interface runs as root, why isn't dns in the postgres database, why does it have it's own unique flat file.
All the commands and tecniques I used were unsupported, the backup through the web interface was broken for sometime before they fixed it, tho I fixed the mangled backup and made them work anyway. These machines were unsupported if you wanted them to actually work correctly, the interface fell short in so many areas as to be useless. Let's not forget the main webserver authenticating through PAM by default......why??
I can go into many more reasons why I hate these machines, they certainly don't fail safe, fill the disk up with logs and watch as the machine borks all of it's conf files.
Bad engineering all around.
I am glad to see them go, while Sun may not be perfect, these little bastard appliances gave Sun a black eye in my view.
I thought Sun might be able to put them back on track, they did by disco'ing them.
A Cobalt rep (pre Sun) paid us a visit to show fail-over in a demo....it just failed...I asked her if they were designed in someone's garage, she said basicly yes.....2 Billion dollars later this realization hits Sun.
I don't guess you've ever admin'd a major mail machine, well that little computation on every piece of inbound mail would add quite a bit to the system load.
It only takes a little bit extra added here or there to make a system inefficient, this little extra calculation would add quite a bit with thousands of pieces of mail per minute passing through a mail machine, now add an extra bit of work for the MTA, now follow the ruleset for mail that doesn't match the key, now run that through the existing spam filters. It would make hardware vendors happy, likely not sys-admins just trying to keep old hardware running with all the belt tightening that has happened since the bust.
Then again you'd be a fool to run anything Microsoft without something like an Alteon in front of them.
Wow, really funny, I have been running SuSE for 5 years now, and never had any of the lockups you mention.
What are you killing, why are you killing it, and do you know where the problem actually is or are you randomly killing stuff.
XP does keep the neophyte user from killing anything important, but this also keeps the experienced user's hands tied.
The only way to properly admin a Windows box is from the command line with a handful of VB or Perl Scripts, the GUI is useless, and isn't this totally anti-windows not to use the GUI for everything.
A UNIXish machine is easier to properly admin when I need to script to change configurations not accessable from the GUI (I'm actually doing this to remove the inconsistancies of the GUI for reproducable results).
IBM has a reputation, so does Microsoft.
Based on that who would you trust for your backend, must work everyday or we're out of business, needs.
Every on-site IBM tech I've ever seen is a doctor, can't really say the same for the MCSE set.
No one ever got fired for buying IBM.
Um, a cellphone works well, even one of those old analog ones will get you to an operator.
With that question, I thought of another one....
If this is so computationally expensive, what would happen to the mailserver if I sent...oh half a million emails with bad keys in them.
Yeah, it must be funny to pick them up after THEIR cars die of poor maintenance. That's actually not a bad present.
Yep, I think this will happen soon, with the demise of my series 1 directtivo there is now a definite need to work on them surface mount skillz to add an offboard rom so I can do the magic. TiVo has likely even closed the holes that were present on the series 2
I'm thinking his credit report came back bad, I've known people who have been hired, then lost their jobs due to a bad credit report, it's used the same way your car insurance company hikes your rates if your credit goes bad, statisticly speaking you're now in with a class of people that don't really care if they mash a ferrari every other day. Err.... what I'm trying to say is a lack of responsibility, he should see if there was an inquiry on his credit report.
Then consider how much these chip fabs cost, last I read they were several billion dollars, so if the market is 100billion I don't know how this can really continue much further economicly.
Scientists, Engineers, Accountants, Lawyers, The Blue Man Group, you start to wonder how there is any room left for profit.
The Zero cases seem to be the best made ones around, I have just purchased a shiny new powerbook, and it is going to be in a zero case.
When you consider how much work is on your laptop, the amount you paid for it, the zero case is really worth it.
Zero Cases is the parent company, this is to give you an idea of who they are, not your normal luggage company. In movies it is the preferred briefcase of drug dealers, money launderers and the case to put that high tech blinky thing in. You really need to see one in person to appreciate them.
here is a link to the one my power book is going in. Gun Metal Grey to avoid the scratches of the aluminum one, it comes with a shoulder strap, it has a neoprene gasket to keep moisture out, something like 400lbs of force to seperate the hinges on the case and the extrusion of the case makes it very strong.
But then again, this is my livelyhood so a $300 case is a small price to pay to protect the laptop and my paperwork.
I was about to make a comment like that.
:-P
It is cool, most of us lack the Martha Stewart gene necessary to pull it off, and we're jealous, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, or whatever
There's some money to be made following standards, there's more money to be made creating them. China is a huge country, it's in their national interest to do so.
Yes, I remember it well, I was one of the sysadmins who was banging my head against the desk as everyone yelled and screamed about no connectivity. All of our providers went down in one fell swoop, nasty.
I installed SuSE 8.2 on an nForce board, I did have to disable ACPI at the boot prompt to get the install to go, but other than that no problems.
What is important though is many of us have been here for some time, my family from 1635, even if something does happen we'd fight again to have the republic rebuilt.
:-)
It will never end, we survived being the underdogs for hundreds of years before we became powerful, we've slogged through it before, we can do it again.
No, I don't wave the flag, I do vote, it is my country with everyone else, there is no need for patriotism lest of all nationalism.
Not to say those accustomed to creature comforts will be happy, but that's not my problem, hehe imagine most people without any credit.....oh the horror
Immigrants give us power, they are the ones that allow us to reinvent ourselves and inject new viewpoints(like the spread of the Spanish language), it was once Indian, European, African, then Asian, now South American, the best Americans are mutts.
Well, the only thing I hope happens is the same that occurred in many other industries, which is the American companies move out, piss off all their customers, fire all their American employees and foreign companies move in and hire Americans, show some loyalty and get it in return with more efficiency and quality.
Public American corporations suck, short term profits to forgo long-range strategy. Here comes Toyota, with most production made here, ready to beat Fnord down.
Perpetual downsizing is their future, soon they will be aquired by smarter foreign companies, more than likely Indian.
Really what needs to be outsourced are the top multimillion dollar positions.
It is not exactly a nuclear attack, but many weapons containing Depleted Uranium were used in Iraq, both in 1991 and in the recent conflict. It is not only affecting Iraqis, but American Troops as well.
Well, it punches big holes in armour due to it's density, we could use other things in the sabot like tungsten, but it's a good way to move spent fuel out of the country into someone else's backyard for free (actually billions).
Enlisting in the Military has some risks to it, anyone not thinking of those risks are the men the military desires. The risks to those we occupy are non-negotiable.
I think at the rate technology is advancing in 30 years it would be possible for someone to create a strain of HIV that is airbourne.
That would be a garage doomsday device, it would spread world-wide and noone would be the wiser for at least a few months.
This is my fear, not nuclear, but biological weapons using viri made by a lunatic in the woods, far worse than the Unibomber, but with the same motives.
That's why it should be open, we could fix them ourselves.
We could ditch X if we could write our own drivers from specs.
I'm on the Virge of agreeing with you :-)
The Virge seemed to only have the ability to draw still scenes, at least that's what it did with quake. That is my last memory of S3
The Diamond Stealth VRAM VESA localbus in 1994(S3) was a nice 2-d card, though that VRAM was super expensive, it made the cheapo dram cards look like toys, actually including the PCI S3 Virge in 2-D performance. It looked at the time like they were going under and this new NVidia company had some fairly kickass video cards, I thought Riva was a scooter.
I learned what a modeline was on that Diamiond, and why I should forever hate X
Well, the actually are hackable, the best hack I've seen so far is to burn another rom, it's been sometime since I've had a rom burner, since my series 1 direcxtivo just died I very well maybe buying another rom burner. This will be the 5th TiVo :-)
If you have the burner it looks fairly simple...for the slashdot crowd.
Yes, I imagine it did.....look just like a strip club, was it complete with expensive drinks served in thimble sized glasses and women that look as if they fell from that guys bike that says "If you can read this the bitch fell off"
He was blind, sound was his world.
Don't you think Indians should be paid somewhat on par with the rest of the world?
:-/
The corporations exist to use people up, I'm sure India will soon have some Unions to balance the corporate greed, won't they?