So tell your customers / clients / other businesses you're working with to use the same OSS. For crying out loud, it's free. That means it costs them nothing to open up that file in exactly the same program it was created in.
The real issue isn't OSS interoperability. The issue is nobody is willing to change, or learn anything. Businesses equate new software, even if free, with retraining. And to them that translates to costing money because most of their employees don't have computer skills basic enough to read buttons and menus on GUIs.
I once worked with a woman who refused to read dialog boxes on principle. I rebooted her computer after updating it for her one day and the next time she went to turn it off, she couldn't figure out why it kept rebooting. The shutdown windows dialog's default had changed to reboot instead of shutdown because that was the last selected option. She wouldn't even read the menu.
No, I'd definitely say that fear of change and resistance to learning threatens OSS spreading moreso than interoperability.
The idea of the grandparent's joke is that security through obscurity works. OpenBSD is more obscure than FreeBSD and is therefore more secure by this mindset.
Not true. Laws are shaped to reflect the moral code of society. Because I've already paid for the content I am viewing, morality tells us that they should not have any legal grounds on which to sue me. But the lawmakers are corrupt, and morals are often thrown out the window to satisfy greed.
The point being made is that free content paid for by ads is commonplace. And nonfree content paid for by a flat fee subscription service is even more commonplace. The MPAA needs to embrace this business model instead of trying to make $100 - $200 off of somebody who wants to watch 20 movies a month. That's just plain overcharging.
I am not questioning the fact that my sources are illegal. I am questioning what moral grounds anyone has to sue me for consuming content I've already paid for.
I would so be suing the MPAA right now if I were the author of mIRC, or another implicated program.
With their broad definitions, the built in FTP clients in Windows, *nix/KDE/GNOME, and OS X are illegal enough. Hell, any computer with a bloody network connection is illegal enough.
For crying out loud, it's not the tool, it's how you use it, ad nauseum. And even then the morality the **AA is standing on is questionable.
Why can't our lawmakers see past their own greed and create truly moral laws regarding copyrights? And half a dozen other things for that matter?
Today, the film industry generates more income from video/DVD sales and rentals than from theater runs. Had they won their case 20 years ago against Sony and the Supreme Court ruled VCR's were illegal (it was a close 5 to 4 decision) the film industry would have less than HALF the revenues it does today.
This is the real kicker. The MPAA still has not learned from this mistake. They fail to see the painfully obvious truth that their conservative views concerning distribution are only costing them more money in the long run.
3) The "college kids" that are downloading ripped movies are precisely the demographic that the movie industry depends on for generating theater revenue. If it becomes as popular as MP3 sharing, they're going to lose $, hence sue now before it becomes a major problem.
When your target demographic is circumventing your distribution methods on a massive scale, it's indicative of a flaw in your business model. Suing your target demographic on an equally grand scale does not make the flaw in your business model go away...
I am a big bit torrent user myself. I like to download Star Trek. But nothing I'm downloading isn't being broadcasted on the cable TV I pay for. Is it still illegal?
It's not illegal if I record it with a TiVo... same quality (and in many cases better), only the source has changed.
The way I see it, I've paid my dues. I'm legally paying for this content. The **AA shouldn't have a right to tell me exactly how I consume the said content. They're getting paid either way, so they can STFU.
As long as I pay for cable TV, I should have the right to download any TV show or movie that's been broadcasted on any channel on my service.
If I can legally record shows with a TiVo, I should be able to legally download those same shows.
Many ISP customers just do exactly what their ISP tells them to. If this ISP starts shoving Firefox down customers' throats, Firefox market share could drastically increase over IE's.
I wish I could agree with you, I really do. But far too often I see this kind of mental hypocrisy run amuck in older people. In their youth they're vibrant and easily accepting of new ideas. But as they age they become set in their ways, intolerant, and bigoted. This has nothing to do with technology and everything to do with the psychology of an aging human mind.
For example, the mother of one of my friends is extremely uptight. Most people I know who've been in contact with her were either swiftly banned from her house, or have to walk on eggshells all day long whilst around her. The interesting aspect of her personality is that she used to be the opposite. Her husband, who for all intents and purposes has to be the most laid back guy I know, describes her behavior in a quote I will never forget. "She acts like the people we hated when we were young."
This kind of mental deterioration seems to be within all of us; as we get older, we become the thing we hate. We've been extending the lifespan of our bodies steadily over the last several hundred years, but when will we learn to expand the lifespans of our minds?
Lo and behold, the source, which btw, is not obscene. But I wouldn't follow to many of the other links on that page.;)
Directly quoted,
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If you don't believe me, follow the damn link. Parent is not trolling.
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I suspect this may become a more and more popular trend and Wikipedia becomes more and more popular. Schools may start to demand that pages on certain topic be locked before children do research.
Some time ago I ordered a phone/DSL service whilst in a college dorm. For the entire first month, the service didn't work at all. The phone company had no idea why and I had no idea why. After a while I figured out that the college had accidentally destroyed the lines while doing construction work on the building. I called the phone company and explained the situation to them and they told me they'd kill the service and revoke my bills.
Months later I get a bill for $100 interest on unpaid bills from the phone company. I call them back and pull a "WTF?!". I asked them to examine the recording of my previous conversation with them and the charges were dropped.
RunUO is not an emulator! (Flashbacks of WINE discussions are hitting me...)
I have been participating in the UO "emulation" community for years and every single time someone uses the term "emulator" to describe third party UO server software, I cringe. RunUO used this term for a very long time as well. Only recently has their site done away with it. (Perhaps due to my nonstop complaining?;))
Thankfully they have. RunUO is now no longer referred to by the developers incorrectly as an emulator.
Why this fuss?
RunUO emulates about as much as WINE. Or Samba. Those aren't emulations. Those are reverse engineerings. Third party implimentations of a closed protocol/api/whatever.
Now if only the RunUO team would stop calling those C# modules "scripts", I'd be happy.:)
But you can't use UOGateway or Razor, which are necessary third party tools to connect to free servers, such as ones running on the RunUO server software.
I imagine some manual hacking could be done using one of the many programs which breaks the client encryption, but without Razor, playing from Linux is pointless as it's necessary for PVP and many non PVP functions.
The day Razor is ported to Linux is the day UO becomes a viable option on x86 Linux.
No, software and hardware management in Linux needs to stop being retarded
Last I checked, it wasn't. apt-get + Synaptic makes installing software really bloody easy. It's like doing a Windows update except you get tens of thousands of free software packages (including a few games) all a few clicks away. Personally, I find apt-get install tuxracer (or clicking for it in Synaptic) pretty idiot proof easy. Oh, you want to install UT 2004 and it's not in apt? Feel free to run the installer which works mysteriously the same as the one for Windows. If you have problems installing third party software in Linux, bitch to the people who wrote (or did the shitty job porting) it, not the Linux people.
Seriously, the *nix directory structure sucks
Yeah, cause/home/user is just so much worse than C:\Documents and Settings\user\My Documents. Ever hear of brevity? That's what unix adheres to. Unix' directory structure isn't perfect, but neither is Windows'. To be fair, let's say they both have their advantages and pitfalls.
One common problem with ALL operating systems is that software shouldn't have to be installed to run.
There are many programs in both Windows and Linux that do not require installers. All installers do is copy files and make shortcuts anyway. I'm not seeing a requirement here.
No registries, no more installed libraries.
Last I checked, Windows was the only OS using a registry. Last I checked, every game I've installed in a unix OS was staticly compiled and didn't suffer from dependency hell.
You should be able to play a whole game by running a single binary from the disc. If you want faster load times, copy the disc to a hard drive and bingo, it's "installed."
Yes, you should.
When this happens, Linux will become the dominant OS.
OS X already works this way and is no closer to being the dominant OS than it was 5 years ago. You're clearly confused about just what determines what the dominant OS is.
Supporting Linux is unlikely to get you 1% more sales, let alone 10%. Mac might get you 10%, but it's going to cost you a lot more than 10 working days to port and test on a different platform with a different OS and CPU.
Irrelevant. Unix software is portable. Write it for unix first and port it to Windows later. That's an instant sales boost due to greater availability and all you have to do to get it is use more portable programming techniques.
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So tell your customers / clients / other businesses you're working with to use the same OSS. For crying out loud, it's free. That means it costs them nothing to open up that file in exactly the same program it was created in.
The real issue isn't OSS interoperability. The issue is nobody is willing to change, or learn anything. Businesses equate new software, even if free, with retraining. And to them that translates to costing money because most of their employees don't have computer skills basic enough to read buttons and menus on GUIs.
I once worked with a woman who refused to read dialog boxes on principle. I rebooted her computer after updating it for her one day and the next time she went to turn it off, she couldn't figure out why it kept rebooting. The shutdown windows dialog's default had changed to reboot instead of shutdown because that was the last selected option. She wouldn't even read the menu.
No, I'd definitely say that fear of change and resistance to learning threatens OSS spreading moreso than interoperability.
The idea of the grandparent's joke is that security through obscurity works. OpenBSD is more obscure than FreeBSD and is therefore more secure by this mindset.
Not true. Laws are shaped to reflect the moral code of society. Because I've already paid for the content I am viewing, morality tells us that they should not have any legal grounds on which to sue me. But the lawmakers are corrupt, and morals are often thrown out the window to satisfy greed.
The point being made is that free content paid for by ads is commonplace. And nonfree content paid for by a flat fee subscription service is even more commonplace. The MPAA needs to embrace this business model instead of trying to make $100 - $200 off of somebody who wants to watch 20 movies a month. That's just plain overcharging.
I am not questioning the fact that my sources are illegal. I am questioning what moral grounds anyone has to sue me for consuming content I've already paid for.
TV and Radio has been doing it for decades...
I would so be suing the MPAA right now if I were the author of mIRC, or another implicated program.
With their broad definitions, the built in FTP clients in Windows, *nix/KDE/GNOME, and OS X are illegal enough. Hell, any computer with a bloody network connection is illegal enough.
For crying out loud, it's not the tool, it's how you use it, ad nauseum. And even then the morality the **AA is standing on is questionable.
Why can't our lawmakers see past their own greed and create truly moral laws regarding copyrights? And half a dozen other things for that matter?
What about the whole realm of fair use?
I am a big bit torrent user myself. I like to download Star Trek. But nothing I'm downloading isn't being broadcasted on the cable TV I pay for. Is it still illegal?
It's not illegal if I record it with a TiVo... same quality (and in many cases better), only the source has changed.
The way I see it, I've paid my dues. I'm legally paying for this content. The **AA shouldn't have a right to tell me exactly how I consume the said content. They're getting paid either way, so they can STFU.
As long as I pay for cable TV, I should have the right to download any TV show or movie that's been broadcasted on any channel on my service.
If I can legally record shows with a TiVo, I should be able to legally download those same shows.
I wonder when the scientists will reproduce this chimerical animal?
Many ISP customers just do exactly what their ISP tells them to. If this ISP starts shoving Firefox down customers' throats, Firefox market share could drastically increase over IE's.
Wouldn't that be libel?
Mod parent up, I entirely agree.
Strike 1, exeem is not open source. Strike 2, it contains spyware/adware. Strike 3, they attempted to buy credibility.
I'll stick to googling for the torrents I need.
Modded funny, but I'd really like to know the answer to this.
I think it's safe to say the people who create the sticker were the ones trying to push an agenda.
I wish I could agree with you, I really do. But far too often I see this kind of mental hypocrisy run amuck in older people. In their youth they're vibrant and easily accepting of new ideas. But as they age they become set in their ways, intolerant, and bigoted. This has nothing to do with technology and everything to do with the psychology of an aging human mind.
For example, the mother of one of my friends is extremely uptight. Most people I know who've been in contact with her were either swiftly banned from her house, or have to walk on eggshells all day long whilst around her. The interesting aspect of her personality is that she used to be the opposite. Her husband, who for all intents and purposes has to be the most laid back guy I know, describes her behavior in a quote I will never forget. "She acts like the people we hated when we were young."
This kind of mental deterioration seems to be within all of us; as we get older, we become the thing we hate. We've been extending the lifespan of our bodies steadily over the last several hundred years, but when will we learn to expand the lifespans of our minds?
Lo and behold, the source, which btw, is not obscene. But I wouldn't follow to many of the other links on that page.
Directly quoted,If you don't believe me, follow the damn link. Parent is not trolling.
I turned it to my advantage.
Some time ago I ordered a phone/DSL service whilst in a college dorm. For the entire first month, the service didn't work at all. The phone company had no idea why and I had no idea why. After a while I figured out that the college had accidentally destroyed the lines while doing construction work on the building. I called the phone company and explained the situation to them and they told me they'd kill the service and revoke my bills.
Months later I get a bill for $100 interest on unpaid bills from the phone company. I call them back and pull a "WTF?!". I asked them to examine the recording of my previous conversation with them and the charges were dropped.
Recordings have non malicious uses you know.
RunUO is not an emulator! (Flashbacks of WINE discussions are hitting me...)
;))
:)
I have been participating in the UO "emulation" community for years and every single time someone uses the term "emulator" to describe third party UO server software, I cringe. RunUO used this term for a very long time as well. Only recently has their site done away with it. (Perhaps due to my nonstop complaining?
Thankfully they have. RunUO is now no longer referred to by the developers incorrectly as an emulator.
Why this fuss?
RunUO emulates about as much as WINE. Or Samba. Those aren't emulations. Those are reverse engineerings. Third party implimentations of a closed protocol/api/whatever.
Now if only the RunUO team would stop calling those C# modules "scripts", I'd be happy.
The real client does indeed work with WINE.
But you can't use UOGateway or Razor, which are necessary third party tools to connect to free servers, such as ones running on the RunUO server software.
I imagine some manual hacking could be done using one of the many programs which breaks the client encryption, but without Razor, playing from Linux is pointless as it's necessary for PVP and many non PVP functions.
The day Razor is ported to Linux is the day UO becomes a viable option on x86 Linux.