Is it really data costs you pay for with ISDN, FR, etc, or scarcity? I think economies of scale result in dirt cheap telco lines, whereas the (comparatively) limited markets and the business centric nature for data lines cause their prices to be very high.
Anyhow, in any decent urban market, DSL at 128k (at the minimum) is cheaper than two bonded telephone lines (for 112k max) plus ISP fees or point to point fees. It might even be safe to make that statement for 324k DSL. ISDN FR and ATM carry a business premium resulting from target market and perceived ability to pay.
A lot of people are already pissed about the intrusivness of technology into our lives. Although as geeks we tend to drool over cell phones, email transmitting pagers and PDAs, the rest of society aint. Given that we are already tethered to work via these devices, are we really going to accept unimportant irritations into our lives? Is there any more intrusive form of advertising than this, for you personal device to go off to let you know that twinkies are on sale?
I am kind of surprised that a European firm is advancing this. I think we generally tend to view Europe as having less intrusive advertising practices, as after all, some Scandinavian countries prohibt targeting children via advertising. Oh well.
3k per sec doesn't make it ineffective to do so, rather it makes you seriously consider what you are going to download, and probably stops external users from using your files. I think it is the casual nature of downloading files that is the real problem with napster.
I go to American, and while I am a polisci major, OIT won't explain what packets they are filtering out. I don't use Napster, and support their decision to ban it, but I wish they would come clean as to what they arefiltering out. haven't had to time to ping out Naptster's class C, and such.
The US Constitution protects against kneejerk reactions to catastrophes (like banning handguns...). The UK has absolutely no protection from a PM becoming despotic, whereas in the US the President is limited by Constitutional protections and the wrath of Congress.
Put it on paper, and require a supermajority to amend.
Interest theory re: marriage, but many European countries with 4 weeks of vacation such as France and Sweden have higher divorce rates than us. Sweden is actually at 60%, IIRC.
MS can definitely get kicked for power management, but HW vendors can too. MS requires HW to be ACPI compliant for power management, and motherboard manufacturors have had a hell of a time getting it that way. I have a BP6 motherboard, the dual celeron one, and ABIT's first ACPI compliant bios forces all PCI cards but for one to share IRQs, or something equally strange. Abit finally has a beta bios out that people have been happy with, but I'll wait until it goes gold, and then see in my Win2k desktop can go to sleep. The other big reeason this is important is WIn2k will only execute the IDLE instruction for dual CPU systems if they are ACPi compliant, which helps keep em cool.
Try getting rid of em! I used em over xmas break once, and trying to cancel is like trying to avoid the mob. I eventually was saying, "Look, I am *leaving* the country, and when I return, my employer will pay for my internet access!" The female CSR still didn't take that, and wanted to know if I had tried AOL 4.0, which offers new instability, a cure for impotence, etc.
Good god.
When I finally got her to cancel me, she then abruptly trasnferred me to someone else, who commenced hawking AOL long distance. Which, as an aside, amkes me think of those lucent (? is it) ads where they talk about making a data network as reliable as a phone network, and when was the last time your phone didn't work. Well, I'd give AOL the early edge as to whom would be likely to make a phone network less reliable than a data network.
Because we aren't talking about the PC. We are really discussing the whole white-collar work = desk metaphor that has existed for a couple of centuries now. This is why I think the Network Computing loonies are far less loony than the wireless supremacy loonies, as they realize that the equation of work = desk has existed far far longer than the PC, and will continue to do so long after PC's *become* part of the desk, with the LCD hanging off the wall.
Believe me, I fully expect, and want, a 640x480 color Palm that plays MP3s, pages and emails me, and syncs with my cell phone and desk top. But these devices will ultimately still interact, and not supplant, a personal computer of some kind which isn't going away as it sits on the desk that isn't going away.
Schools are going to have to come up with per IP bandwidth allocations. Of course, before Napster was banned at AU, I couldn't possibly download an ISO of FreeBSD due to the likelihood of a spike in traffic killing my connection.
Of course, those of us who realize they don't allocate.250-255 of every class C subnet, would probably avoid paying in such a scheme, but I digress.:- )
I think they went with FAT 16 because all of the operating systems support it. Even in a NTFS NT/2k comparision, 2k's support for encryption may change the picture.
That said, Win2k as of the Beta 3 (not the release candidates) *feels* much faster than NT 4 on the same hardware.
There would like not be a limited time window as a result of the growing trend of absentee voting. On the West Coast you have about a month to vote. Given that this lengthens campaigns' media buys, thus making them more expensive, and in turn making it more difficult for challengers, it is unlikely that the trend towards longer voting periods would be stopped.
One of the goals is to reduce cost. Voting stations basically need to be maintained and housed for probably some 363 days out of a year. Oregon is at the forefront of all mail voting because it is cheaper. I think an ATM based system would require some heavy lifting programming wise, and not be as cost effective. Matt
What haven't they been fearful of? They were afraid of the VCR, and now they make a lot more money (I recall a figure of 50% more) off of tapes and the rental industry than they do at the box office. They never have, nor never will "get" technology.
Making the point about Analog/Digital only aids these nitwits. Most non US first world countries have taxes on audio cassettes to remedy piracy and perceived incurred losses. Those are *analog* tapes. The media mogul types WILL TRY TO SCREW YOU EVERY WHICH WAY.
Pointing towards the Grateful Dead and other bands whose careers were enhanced by tape trading does not faze them. They think only of the present, and of perceived losses.
They have not yet been able to stay ahead of technology. 5 years from now we will all have DVD burners, but of course a new HDVD spec will probably be out by then. Given the pace of technology, they ought to be more concerned about getting stuff out the door than delaying it will half assed (given the global crypto situation) copy protecting it.
Personally, I am hoping for the giants like AOl / Time Warner to collapse. I am hoping that tv on demand will develop such that you can pay minipayments (my new term, you heard it hear first, as micropayents are cents and millicents, I'm talking 50-100 cents) to watch your shows from the studios and get rid of the established channels.
I am a MCSE (self taught)who took the 95 test instead of the NT WKSTN test. The bottomline is that without the certification process I would never have learned as much about 95 as I did. Most of my jobs have been in all NT shops, so the material on using 95 with a NT network was somewhat new to me. I never was in a situation where I had to deal with DOS apps running under 95, so the tuning section was of interest.
There is a limit to what you learn by playing around with things, namely, the environments within which you play with em.
Having sold my soul for the MCSE, it maybe cost me 1500 total to get. You make it sounds as if your company would give you 6k for it, so it aint a bad way to increase your marketability and net 4.5k, or 6k if they pay for everything.
Exactly when and where have the libertarians *ever* received press coverage?
Matt is currently in the campaign management institute at american u. over break, and is doing a house race in CA, where libertarians are on the ballot, and get anywhere from 1.5 to 2%. And are completely irrelevant.
While I am not sure that it was even 49 days ago that RC3 was released, what I am sure about is that it was a very limited release. As a TechNet Plus subscriber, I did not get it, nor did my company as a MCSP. Not many people have it, the IBMs of the world do. It is kind of silly to start talking about Win2k uptimes when only about 10k users got the last beta
I'll bite. I am a senior in college, living in the dorms. I have a 21 inch monitor, and I run my audio out into my receiver. I don't actually own a tv, as my roommate was reponsible for bringing one. I have rented in the past years. I have no real desire to own a tv on account of the little tv watching I do and the advent of HDTV. Maybe when I graduate I'll buy a tv tuner card until HDTVs become reasonably priced. But for now, the 21 inch monitor is where it is at. matt
Although that is incredibly dangerous, this guy is actually making a claim of an expected international y2k attack on the basis of two foreign port scans. hmmmm. Someone had a bit too much coffee.
Anyhow, I can't seem to find any reference of this on Bugtraq. He appears to have only informed CERT and his local network admin.
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Is it really data costs you pay for with ISDN, FR, etc, or scarcity? I think economies of scale result in dirt cheap telco lines, whereas the (comparatively) limited markets and the business centric nature for data lines cause their prices to be very high.
Anyhow, in any decent urban market, DSL at 128k (at the minimum) is cheaper than two bonded telephone lines (for 112k max) plus ISP fees or point to point fees. It might even be safe to make that statement for 324k DSL. ISDN FR and ATM carry a business premium resulting from target market and perceived ability to pay.
matt
A lot of people are already pissed about the intrusivness of technology into our lives. Although as geeks we tend to drool over cell phones, email transmitting pagers and PDAs, the rest of society aint. Given that we are already tethered to work via these devices, are we really going to accept unimportant irritations into our lives? Is there any more intrusive form of advertising than this, for you personal device to go off to let you know that twinkies are on sale?
I am kind of surprised that a European firm is advancing this. I think we generally tend to view Europe as having less intrusive advertising practices, as after all, some Scandinavian countries prohibt targeting children via advertising. Oh well.
When is the Junkbuster port going to be ready?
matt
3k per sec doesn't make it ineffective to do so, rather it makes you seriously consider what you are going to download, and probably stops external users from using your files. I think it is the casual nature of downloading files that is the real problem with napster.
I go to American, and while I am a polisci major, OIT won't explain what packets they are filtering out. I don't use Napster, and support their decision to ban it, but I wish they would come clean as to what they arefiltering out. haven't had to time to ping out Naptster's class C, and such.
matt
The US Constitution protects against kneejerk reactions to catastrophes (like banning handguns...). The UK has absolutely no protection from a PM becoming despotic, whereas in the US the President is limited by Constitutional protections and the wrath of Congress.
Put it on paper, and require a supermajority to amend.
matt
Belgians brew the most varieties, Czechs drink the most per capita.
Matt
Interest theory re: marriage, but many European countries with 4 weeks of vacation such as France and Sweden have higher divorce rates than us. Sweden is actually at 60%, IIRC.
Matt
marketing hype?
The splash screen that is displayed while Win2k is loading has the Win2k logo, and beneath it "Built on NT technology" Or something similar.
Even MCSE's like myself are amused by the notion of something being built on "N(ew) T(echnology) technology".
matt
MS can definitely get kicked for power management, but HW vendors can too. MS requires HW to be ACPI compliant for power management, and motherboard manufacturors have had a hell of a time getting it that way. I have a BP6 motherboard, the dual celeron one, and ABIT's first ACPI compliant bios forces all PCI cards but for one to share IRQs, or something equally strange. Abit finally has a beta bios out that people have been happy with, but I'll wait until it goes gold, and then see in my Win2k desktop can go to sleep. The other big reeason this is important is WIn2k will only execute the IDLE instruction for dual CPU systems if they are ACPi compliant, which helps keep em cool.
Matt
Try getting rid of em! I used em over xmas break once, and trying to cancel is like trying to avoid the mob. I eventually was saying, "Look, I am *leaving* the country, and when I return, my employer will pay for my internet access!" The female CSR still didn't take that, and wanted to know if I had tried AOL 4.0, which offers new instability, a cure for impotence, etc.
Good god.
When I finally got her to cancel me, she then abruptly trasnferred me to someone else, who commenced hawking AOL long distance. Which, as an aside, amkes me think of those lucent (? is it) ads where they talk about making a data network as reliable as a phone network, and when was the last time your phone didn't work. Well, I'd give AOL the early edge as to whom would be likely to make a phone network less reliable than a data network.
matt
Why isn't the PC going away?
Because we aren't talking about the PC. We are really discussing the whole white-collar work = desk metaphor that has existed for a couple of centuries now. This is why I think the Network Computing loonies are far less loony than the wireless supremacy loonies, as they realize that the equation of work = desk has existed far far longer than the PC, and will continue to do so long after PC's *become* part of the desk, with the LCD hanging off the wall.
Believe me, I fully expect, and want, a 640x480 color Palm that plays MP3s, pages and emails me, and syncs with my cell phone and desk top. But these devices will ultimately still interact, and not supplant, a personal computer of some kind which isn't going away as it sits on the desk that isn't going away.
matt
Schools are going to have to come up with per IP bandwidth allocations. Of course, before Napster was banned at AU, I couldn't possibly download an ISO of FreeBSD due to the likelihood of a spike in traffic killing my connection.
.250-255 of every class C subnet, would probably avoid paying in such a scheme, but I digress. :- )
Of course, those of us who realize they don't allocate
I think they went with FAT 16 because all of the operating systems support it. Even in a NTFS NT /2k comparision, 2k's support for encryption may change the picture.
That said, Win2k as of the Beta 3 (not the release candidates) *feels* much faster than NT 4 on the same hardware.
Matt
There would like not be a limited time window as a result of the growing trend of absentee voting. On the West Coast you have about a month to vote. Given that this lengthens campaigns' media buys, thus making them more expensive, and in turn making it more difficult for challengers, it is unlikely that the trend towards longer voting periods would be stopped.
Matt
One of the goals is to reduce cost. Voting stations basically need to be maintained and housed for probably some 363 days out of a year. Oregon is at the forefront of all mail voting because it is cheaper. I think an ATM based system would require some heavy lifting programming wise, and not be as cost effective. Matt
Where ya from? Randolph here.
Matt
They have the book + cd set at Borders. I can't recall having seen FreeBSD at a CompUSA though
What haven't they been fearful of? They were afraid of the VCR, and now they make a lot more money (I recall a figure of 50% more) off of tapes and the rental industry than they do at the box office. They never have, nor never will "get" technology.
Making the point about Analog/Digital only aids these nitwits. Most non US first world countries have taxes on audio cassettes to remedy piracy and perceived incurred losses. Those are *analog* tapes. The media mogul types WILL TRY TO SCREW YOU EVERY WHICH WAY.
Pointing towards the Grateful Dead and other bands whose careers were enhanced by tape trading does not faze them. They think only of the present, and of perceived losses.
They have not yet been able to stay ahead of technology. 5 years from now we will all have DVD burners, but of course a new HDVD spec will probably be out by then. Given the pace of technology, they ought to be more concerned about getting stuff out the door than delaying it will half assed (given the global crypto situation) copy protecting it.
Personally, I am hoping for the giants like AOl / Time Warner to collapse. I am hoping that tv on demand will develop such that you can pay minipayments (my new term, you heard it hear first, as micropayents are cents and millicents, I'm talking 50-100 cents) to watch your shows from the studios and get rid of the established channels.
whew, i need to lay off the caffeine, : - )
matt
I am a MCSE (self taught)who took the 95 test instead of the NT WKSTN test. The bottomline is that without the certification process I would never have learned as much about 95 as I did. Most of my jobs have been in all NT shops, so the material on using 95 with a NT network was somewhat new to me. I never was in a situation where I had to deal with DOS apps running under 95, so the tuning section was of interest.
There is a limit to what you learn by playing around with things, namely, the environments within which you play with em.
Matt
Having sold my soul for the MCSE, it maybe cost me 1500 total to get. You make it sounds as if your company would give you 6k for it, so it aint a bad way to increase your marketability and net 4.5k, or 6k if they pay for everything.
Matt
Exactly when and where have the libertarians *ever* received press coverage?
Matt is currently in the campaign management institute at american u. over break, and is doing a house race in CA, where libertarians are on the ballot, and get anywhere from 1.5 to 2%. And are completely irrelevant.
For Win2k? Where at?
I havent seen em on their web site
Matt
Use the "That would be an unlawful search and seizure" line. I enjoy it. Matt
While I am not sure that it was even 49 days ago that RC3 was released, what I am sure about is that it was a very limited release. As a TechNet Plus subscriber, I did not get it, nor did my company as a MCSP. Not many people have it, the IBMs of the world do. It is kind of silly to start talking about Win2k uptimes when only about 10k users got the last beta
Matt
I'll bite. I am a senior in college, living in the dorms. I have a 21 inch monitor, and I run my audio out into my receiver. I don't actually own a tv, as my roommate was reponsible for bringing one. I have rented in the past years. I have no real desire to own a tv on account of the little tv watching I do and the advent of HDTV. Maybe when I graduate I'll buy a tv tuner card until HDTVs become reasonably priced. But for now, the 21 inch monitor is where it is at. matt
CERT Advisory
37.5x traffic amplication. Wheeeeeeee.
Although that is incredibly dangerous, this guy is actually making a claim of an expected international y2k attack on the basis of two foreign port scans. hmmmm. Someone had a bit too much coffee.
Anyhow, I can't seem to find any reference of this on Bugtraq. He appears to have only informed CERT and his local network admin.
matt