A President of linux consultancy says that linux admins can handle more boxes than a windows admin.
This study is stupid. As a rule, there are more windows admins than anything else, because that is what the market demands. As a result, there are more $30-40k deserving windows admins who would get their hands full with a lot of boxes. Still, if you need admins for a 100,000 hit a day web site (which doesn't sound all that high to me), you need to hire people who can roll out identical, customized machines in short time, have experience monitoring, and can batch updates, etc. You can hire a bunch of cheaper admins, who will install hotfixes one at a time, rebooting each time, or you can hire one or two good admins who can qchain em together, and reboot when all are installed. TCO is as much a function of management and hr's hiring skill as it is or anything else.
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Re:United Nations -- Iraq -- Weapons Inspections
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You are a nitwit. You say linux admins are good because they are self taught, but windows admins who pour over books are bad? Please tell, what is the proper way to be self taught, especially on a closed source operating system? How should someone learn solaris? Kidnap a solaris admin?
We live in an age where 40gig drives are the smallest you can buy new. And in an age where our landfills are choked with AOL cds. I don't think distribution and or storage of moz by aol will be a problem.
Also, some of us don't think real networks has released *anything* that "works" for years.
If AOL adopts it, and then within 1 yr 20% of american web surfers are using the gecko engine, then everyone will need to adhere more closely to standards, and life will be grand.
Get worked up over standards, not about achieving global dominance.
Honestly, I think you are biased cuz of the h1b program. The degree requirements in it are weird, and heavily, heavily weigh degree over experience. Over time, the h1b program has become used for technical people, whereas when it was created, congress probably assumed that it was more for hard science and academic types.
Some fields seem to want degrees more than others, but I do see people succeed without them. It is becoming more expected over time, simply because american high schools are so bad, employers want to see an extra 4 years of seasoning. Anyone under 30 in the US ought to have, or be working on a degree, because the trend isn't going to change - if anything, demographic changes in the next decade or two will leave the US with more university seats then needed, and thus probably result in almost everyone of that age cohort attempting to get degrees as standards at the bottom rungs sink.
That has been my experience with cloudmark too - legitimate messages I have signed up for get moved. That is part of the problem with letting end user types filter spam - spam is not necessarily all the messages you just don't want to read. People often don't read what they agree to, and thus don't realize that a lot of commercial email they volunteered for.
Still, I think there is a much brighter future in this model than the RBL model.
Java will kill itself as a broswer applet technology on its own.
I cannot successfully get IE configured with a JVM that works correctly for both Cisco's http switch interface (does kinda cool port utilization graphs real time), and HP Toptools (free windows management software). I've tried ms's, sun's 1.3xx, sun's 1.4xxx.
When I upgrade nt 4 servers to win2k I login and run a batch file. It maps a drive, calls winnt32 and passed an unattend file (contains snmp settings, cd key, commands to stop install of IIS 5, install terminal services in remote admin mode). It installs the OS and sp3 (its a slipstreamed install), copies over a tree of utilities and drivers, completes the cmd mode and gui portions of install, autoreboots twice, autologins once, installs the intel nic drivers, runs script with qchain.exe to chain together all current hotfixes, runs a wsh script to send the keystrokes to create a fast etherchannel for the dual nic ports, installs server management utilities, installs the terminal services client, runs winn32/cmdcons to install the recovery console. Total time is 40ish minutes.
Windows unattend files are just about identical for both new and upgrade installs. Sounds like you ought to check them out
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Re:I need Windows on Linux....
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But 250 isn't just for one system. VMware allows you to run as many vms as your ram permits. If I were doing something where I needed to keep win 98 around, I'd probably use vmware to emulate it rather than keeping a crappy box around
You are incorrect. IIRC, 35ish percent of all NAS devices are now "Windows Powered". MS has basically gone from 0-35% in this market in 2 years.
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Re:Nokia IPSO comes with VRRP standard
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No money is necessary. Its just that implementing it means that cisco has countersuit grounds against you on any issue under the sun if you use vrrp anywhere.
Exactly. These guys sound like they are real quality *nix sys admins. I bet they are making sub 70k in florida. In NYC, Boston, et al they are worth probably > 85k, and as such would *never* likely end up in the public sector. Its almost always about the admins.
There are a lot of thin client solutions for windows. Native terminal services, citrix, and there is now a cheaper citrix competitor whose name I am blanking on. Most thin client hardware should support the MS protocols. Yeah, server side hardware costs may be higher, but this article did not touch upon server hardware spaces at all.
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Not Open enough for OpenBSD
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Cisco maintains patent encumberances upon VRRP - if you use/sell VRRP, and get into a completely unrelated patent/licensing/whathaveyou war with Cisco, Cisco maintains the right to seek damages for your use of VRRP.
I have come to see the merits of this position (dhartmei@ makes a good case, btw;-) ) . The OpenBSD guys have been sitting on a VRRP package for *years* that they cannot include because this is not really an open standard.
Why does Cisco do this? It may be that they are pissy because HSRP wasn't accepted as the standard. Or they might be looking for protection as they might be afraid other people could have patent claims against stuff that might underlie VRRP - and thus these encumberances could allow them to enact a legal war of attrition as each side has competiting patent claims that would ensure deadlock.
I wonder if we can draw parallels to the boom in usage of such gear as feds ramp up spending to home users with windows firewalls - people logging all kinds of data and jumping to all kinds of conclusions without having the knowledge to separate the wheat from the chaff
Re:free for non commerical use, aka...
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it appears they are trying to get the license changed. Isn't it weird that the commerce dept of CA paid for most of it, but since the copyright went to the U Cal system, its under their weird license.
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free for non commerical use, aka...
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free for slow adoption.
the sooner more people can use it, the sooner corporate products will have to support it, and the more secure we all can hopefully be.
after all, we haven't had much luck getting the newer snmp versions deployed.
Linux developers in general have a loose take on legalities and freedom. NDAs are incompatible with the devout interpretation of freedom and the BSD license that the OpenBSD project is built on. While this can mean that some features must go (VRRP, Sun's ECC code), it means that OpenBSD is the safest OSS OS to build on for protecting oneself from legal hijinx.
And again, the reason that this is a story is because Sun claims they are the open alternative to MS.
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Re:It's not as bad as it seems...
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Its not about source code, as if it were, OpenBSD couldn't use it anyhow, a la the Sun ECC code for OpenSSL, which carries some patent limitations that makes in incompatible with a strict constructionist BSD license interpretation (a la Open, and not Free or Net). Its about documentation, which they asked for repeatedly. The *reason* this is a story is because Sun runs around claiming openness. If this were about an IBM or HP chip, it wouldn't be a real story, as Sun is the leading drum beater about how open they are in comparison to MS.
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Re:RAID5 doesn't need a RAID Card!
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have you had any drives go south yet? my experience with promise 33/66 cards a generation or two was that 2 drives on a cable, one bad drive = both drives data gets corrupted. So two cards, 4 drives, 1a,1b,2a,2b, in raid 10 meant one drives dies, all is lost = so much for raid.
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I guess the good news is that building your own 1TB array via 3ware route (i have had too many bad experiences with promise cards to recommend them, having not used their current rev, which does look nice...) would cost you probably 1/5th or better of buying that much storage any other way. Maybe you buy the 300+ GB drives, and do raid 50 on a controller
I also wonder if the 4-8 drive configs are just overwhelming server cases, and heat is an issue.
AN artsy guy I work with sez that the current res on the ms xp tablets isn't high enough for real art work. This was on the basis of just one or two models we played with though.
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A President of linux consultancy says that linux admins can handle more boxes than a windows admin.
This study is stupid. As a rule, there are more windows admins than anything else, because that is what the market demands. As a result, there are more $30-40k deserving windows admins who would get their hands full with a lot of boxes. Still, if you need admins for a 100,000 hit a day web site (which doesn't sound all that high to me), you need to hire people who can roll out identical, customized machines in short time, have experience monitoring, and can batch updates, etc. You can hire a bunch of cheaper admins, who will install hotfixes one at a time, rebooting each time, or you can hire one or two good admins who can qchain em together, and reboot when all are installed. TCO is as much a function of management and hr's hiring skill as it is or anything else.
ostiguy
You are a nitwit. You say linux admins are good because they are self taught, but windows admins who pour over books are bad? Please tell, what is the proper way to be self taught, especially on a closed source operating system? How should someone learn solaris? Kidnap a solaris admin?
ostiguy
When you do that, use dumb ICA terminals, and not pc's running linux. Fewer moving parts.
ostiguy
We live in an age where 40gig drives are the smallest you can buy new. And in an age where our landfills are choked with AOL cds. I don't think distribution and or storage of moz by aol will be a problem.
Also, some of us don't think real networks has released *anything* that "works" for years.
ostiguy
Its just software. Its not about global conquest.
If AOL adopts it, and then within 1 yr 20% of american web surfers are using the gecko engine, then everyone will need to adhere more closely to standards, and life will be grand.
Get worked up over standards, not about achieving global dominance.
ostiguy
Honestly, I think you are biased cuz of the h1b program. The degree requirements in it are weird, and heavily, heavily weigh degree over experience. Over time, the h1b program has become used for technical people, whereas when it was created, congress probably assumed that it was more for hard science and academic types.
Some fields seem to want degrees more than others, but I do see people succeed without them. It is becoming more expected over time, simply because american high schools are so bad, employers want to see an extra 4 years of seasoning. Anyone under 30 in the US ought to have, or be working on a degree, because the trend isn't going to change - if anything, demographic changes in the next decade or two will leave the US with more university seats then needed, and thus probably result in almost everyone of that age cohort attempting to get degrees as standards at the bottom rungs sink.
ostiguy
That has been my experience with cloudmark too - legitimate messages I have signed up for get moved. That is part of the problem with letting end user types filter spam - spam is not necessarily all the messages you just don't want to read. People often don't read what they agree to, and thus don't realize that a lot of commercial email they volunteered for.
Still, I think there is a much brighter future in this model than the RBL model.
ostiguy
where is the dirty hippie option in preferences?
ostiguy
Java will kill itself as a broswer applet technology on its own.
I cannot successfully get IE configured with a JVM that works correctly for both Cisco's http switch interface (does kinda cool port utilization graphs real time), and HP Toptools (free windows management software). I've tried ms's, sun's 1.3xx, sun's 1.4xxx.
Write once, run *nowhere* has been my experience.
ostiguy
Magic 8 ball points to very doubtful.
ostiguy
When I upgrade nt 4 servers to win2k I login and run a batch file. It maps a drive, calls winnt32 and passed an unattend file (contains snmp settings, cd key, commands to stop install of IIS 5, install terminal services in remote admin mode). It installs the OS and sp3 (its a slipstreamed install), copies over a tree of utilities and drivers, completes the cmd mode and gui portions of install, autoreboots twice, autologins once, installs the intel nic drivers, runs script with qchain.exe to chain together all current hotfixes, runs a wsh script to send the keystrokes to create a fast etherchannel for the dual nic ports, installs server management utilities, installs the terminal services client, runs winn32 /cmdcons to install the recovery console. Total time is 40ish minutes.
Windows unattend files are just about identical for both new and upgrade installs. Sounds like you ought to check them out
ostiguy
But 250 isn't just for one system. VMware allows you to run as many vms as your ram permits. If I were doing something where I needed to keep win 98 around, I'd probably use vmware to emulate it rather than keeping a crappy box around
ostiguy
You are incorrect. IIRC, 35ish percent of all NAS devices are now "Windows Powered". MS has basically gone from 0-35% in this market in 2 years.
ostiguy
No money is necessary. Its just that implementing it means that cisco has countersuit grounds against you on any issue under the sun if you use vrrp anywhere.
ostiguy
Exactly. These guys sound like they are real quality *nix sys admins. I bet they are making sub 70k in florida. In NYC, Boston, et al they are worth probably > 85k, and as such would *never* likely end up in the public sector. Its almost always about the admins.
ostiguy
There are a lot of thin client solutions for windows. Native terminal services, citrix, and there is now a cheaper citrix competitor whose name I am blanking on. Most thin client hardware should support the MS protocols. Yeah, server side hardware costs may be higher, but this article did not touch upon server hardware spaces at all.
ostiguy
Cisco maintains patent encumberances upon VRRP - if you use/sell VRRP, and get into a completely unrelated patent/licensing/whathaveyou war with Cisco, Cisco maintains the right to seek damages for your use of VRRP.
;-) ) . The OpenBSD guys have been sitting on a VRRP package for *years* that they cannot include because this is not really an open standard.
I have come to see the merits of this position (dhartmei@ makes a good case, btw
Why does Cisco do this? It may be that they are pissy because HSRP wasn't accepted as the standard. Or they might be looking for protection as they might be afraid other people could have patent claims against stuff that might underlie VRRP - and thus these encumberances could allow them to enact a legal war of attrition as each side has competiting patent claims that would ensure deadlock.
ostiguy
I wonder if we can draw parallels to the boom in usage of such gear as feds ramp up spending to home users with windows firewalls - people logging all kinds of data and jumping to all kinds of conclusions without having the knowledge to separate the wheat from the chaff
it appears they are trying to get the license changed. Isn't it weird that the commerce dept of CA paid for most of it, but since the copyright went to the U Cal system, its under their weird license.
ostiguy
free for slow adoption.
the sooner more people can use it, the sooner corporate products will have to support it, and the more secure we all can hopefully be.
after all, we haven't had much luck getting the newer snmp versions deployed.
ostiguy
Linux developers in general have a loose take on legalities and freedom. NDAs are incompatible with the devout interpretation of freedom and the BSD license that the OpenBSD project is built on. While this can mean that some features must go (VRRP, Sun's ECC code), it means that OpenBSD is the safest OSS OS to build on for protecting oneself from legal hijinx.
And again, the reason that this is a story is because Sun claims they are the open alternative to MS.
ostiguy
Its not about source code, as if it were, OpenBSD couldn't use it anyhow, a la the Sun ECC code for OpenSSL, which carries some patent limitations that makes in incompatible with a strict constructionist BSD license interpretation (a la Open, and not Free or Net). Its about documentation, which they asked for repeatedly. The *reason* this is a story is because Sun runs around claiming openness. If this were about an IBM or HP chip, it wouldn't be a real story, as Sun is the leading drum beater about how open they are in comparison to MS.
ostiguy
have you had any drives go south yet? my experience with promise 33/66 cards a generation or two was that 2 drives on a cable, one bad drive = both drives data gets corrupted. So two cards, 4 drives, 1a,1b,2a,2b, in raid 10 meant one drives dies, all is lost = so much for raid.
ostiguy
I guess the good news is that building your own 1TB array via 3ware route (i have had too many bad experiences with promise cards to recommend them, having not used their current rev, which does look nice...) would cost you probably 1/5th or better of buying that much storage any other way. Maybe you buy the 300+ GB drives, and do raid 50 on a controller
I also wonder if the 4-8 drive configs are just overwhelming server cases, and heat is an issue.
ostiguy
AN artsy guy I work with sez that the current res on the ms xp tablets isn't high enough for real art work. This was on the basis of just one or two models we played with though.