So many ways to start this but just let me begin with the obvious. Just because you are so uninformed as to not see the further implaications of the laws the RIAA is passing doesn't make you any smarter than people here. What is does is show you for what you are...a fucking idiot who bases his world view on the very little he knows on subjects completely out of his realm. If you think this is strictly about downloading music then you're a fucking idiot but that's already been established.
You go on to say we are little isolated pockets of folks, nerds, and college students. Well mr uninformed stereo typing llama let me give you a little background on myself since you seem to lump everyone together because the all fight for the same cause. I'm a man over 30, I have a beautiful girlfriend, more beautiful than you'll ever know. I get laid daily and I'm talking more than missionary:). I have a great job. I enjoy my free time outdoors camping and I also race sport quads. I donate time to the SPCA and help out other people as much as possible. I don't wear taped glasses. Women love me and I'm no where near a dork. This isn't egocentricity. I am saying these things to shed light on myself and point out that just because one is opinionated and loves technology then that does not make him or her a dork.
The word geek I do like because IRL it means you're into cool shit that "Joe Average" knows shit about (see my description of you earlier).
Another thing that shows you for the analy-birthed, troll you are is you add nothing to the conversation other than calling Cringely stupid. THANK YOU TROLL! You have given us the answers we have all been searching for. You have enlightened us beyond belief and we owe you more than gratitude...we owe you are our lives!
I love you "except you kids" comment as if adults can't still believe in something so important and so unimportant as you deem it to be but that is strictly from your lack of understanding and comprehension of what's happening. Read some not on downloading music but on the laws being passed and how they could slowly revoke the freedoms that many American's died for to protect.
If you have kids do you want there future to be based on what the goverment thinks is best for them? Do you want the goverment of a business to tell them who, what, when, why and how they should buy, consume, and live their lives? Do you want your kids to live a life as free as your's?
If so read up on what's going on and maybe you'll have an idea of what everyone is so pissed off about. Until then SHUT THE FUCK up and keep trolling because your true colors shine through your bullshit arguments, stereotyping, and ignorant comments.
They should have done this instead of letting the cat out of the bag. No doubt people visit/. to get a feel for what's happening but they will read or hear about this idea and slip it into the drm. At least start this idea up and once the RIAA sues just let it go back and forth through the courts for years until this thing is settled.
I cannot think of one company or individual excluding sadam or OBL that is more despised currently. The RIAA is obviously done caring about how people view them and I can finally see users are starting to turn on them in droves. They really think we need to buy music so badly that we won't stop no matter what they do. They have obviously underestimated the American public.
Play your games, buy laws, sue people into financial ruin but understand your industry will not go unpunished. Your days are numbered as are the days of ripping off the artists who are on your labels. Your industry's death may be slow but the writings on the wall and there's not a law you can pass or enough users for you to sue to save it.
Kiss it all goodbye for you are an archaeic industry who has over stayed it's welcome in the country where freedom of choice matters and consumers ultimately decide what stay and what goes.
Some have already sold their soul, and for them the choice no longer exists. For the millions of others the day to make the choice is approaching soon. For about a 1000 the day of making the choice has approached. Will all of them be divided and individually be chopped to pieces, or will they recognize that providence has brought them together under a single banner - and now they must stick together, serve as the nucleus of this revolution, and even as the coalesce together, pull in together the millions of others who when presented with two choices will choose to join the "1000 Nodes of Light."
Although you put this is a nice and beautifully romantic light I can tell you right now that these people will fold like a deck of cards. They will be the equivalent of a "rat" in the mob. When you have companies of this size it comes down to self-preservation and lving to fight another day.
I don't see how joining together will help their cause although some kind of class action suit might be in order as long as the proper angle is chosen.
Speaking for myself I'd fight it but if I couldn't find a great lawyer then it'd be pointless. If I could get a big name lawyer pro-bon then it'd be on and we'd put the whole system on trial.
If you are to fight this battle then it has to be more than a P2P vs RIAA. Is has to stretch into rights guaranteed by the constitution and fair use of purchased products. I'd also mention law makers having a certain industry flooding them with massive amounts of cash. There really is plenty here to debate and go to war about but it's going to take the right set of circumstances to pull it off. I'm down.
This is really a revolution of epic proportion no matter what one thinks. We're not talking P2P only. We're talking about our rights more than anything else here and that's the genesis of the argument IMHFO!
Through the war on terrorism we are giving up certain rights and now with P2P we are giving up further rights. How many rights do we have to give up for people to get it? Search warrants with no reason? Subpoenas by the recording association with no judicial oversight? Email monitoring?
Wake the fuck up people and fight this shit with all you've got or the "big brother" days will be here sooner than you think and then you can forget about the freedoms you used to have.
This isn't flamebait at all but it's none of your business what a person does in their own time on their personal computer. Absolutely none of your business. If you have a problem with people using P2p then don't service their pc's.
I can't believe you confront them on the legality of it all. If you tried that with me I'd tell you to stfu and mind your own business but I fix my own boxes so I won't be seeing you anytime soon.
I am not ashamed nor do I feel guilty. Most of all I won't repent so save your b.s. for someone who has no backbone or self respect. I can't believe no one has bitch slapped u yet.
To the dipshit mod who marked this off topic... The practice of publicizing accusations of political disloyalty or subversion with insufficient regard to evidence. The use of unfair investigatory or accusatory methods in order to suppress opposition.
Wow doesn't this sound like the RIAA's tactics?
Snippet above was in my previous post and is totally on topic so who ever the mod was...you're a fucking idiot and the epitome of why mods are rotated constantly. Feel free to mark this post as flamebait:D
I used the following terms in a post today and felt they needed to be added to my list of terms.... CD-Socialism/Stalinism/McCarthyism:
CD-Socialism:add CD to the following definition and it's a definite possibility of what's coming..socialism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ssh-lzm) n. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
CD-Stalinism:Ok add CD to the following definition but remove the stuff relating to Stalin?Marxist shit at the end..Stalinism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (stäl-nzm) n. The bureaucratic, authoritarian exercise of state power and mechanistic application (ignore)of Marxist-Leninist principles associated with Stalin.(/ignore)
CD-McCartyism:Add CD in front of the following.. McCarthyism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-kärth-zm) n. The practice of publicizing accusations of political disloyalty or subversion with insufficient regard to evidence. The use of unfair investigatory or accusatory methods in order to suppress opposition.
The vast majority of prosecutions of violent criminals take place at the state and local level, not the federal level, which is where DOJ s jurisdiction lies. However, in those instances where there are federal violent crimes, the penalties are more severe than those imposed for copyright infringement. For example, as mentioned, the *maximum* sentence you can receive for one count of copyright infringement is 60 months, while the *minimum* for someone convicted federally of aggravated sexual assault is generally between 70 to 87 months.
This guy must think we are stupid. First off he says ONE count of copyright infringement and we know whoever is charged will be charged with more than one count. If it's a per song basis like their $150,000 so-called loss then then counts would seem to follow. Let's think small and go with someone sharing 5 songs. Let's charge them with 5 counts of copyright infringement and charge them with a medium figure of 2.5 years per infringement. That's 10 years and a $750,000 so-called loss. You would do less jail time is you beat and raped a stranger and that's just what the lawyer is saying in his encrypted law-speak. Break it down for yourself.
Now take this very conservative figure and add in other miscelleneous charges and you could be looking at a lot of time along with an amount of money you could never pay back. These are penalties that outweigh the copyright infringement...not crime. Think about someone sharing 100's of songs and look at what they're up against.
Whoever is charged needs to fight with everything they've got because if we make it easy for them then it'll be a "take a number" mentality of which they will process us like cows headed to slaughter. Maybe this is a new business model? If they we don't spend money on their products then they'll take it from us and actually make more and in the future have much more control.
I'll call it CD-socialism...or maybe CD-stalinism would be more fitting. All of this would also include CD-Mccarthyism to generate fear and paranoia. It's what we have to look forward to if we don't make our voices heard and stop buying their shit. If we buy or not they will always use the P2P excuse so don't let that bullshit argument keep you from boycotting. I'm done buying and have been for many months. I don't see myself going back unless an about face is made sometime in the near future.
I say we can change things but we all have to work in unison to get it done on a large scale level....
How about the American Solar Challenge/Houston 700? We know she can do 660 at a sitting but can she do 700? How about have her do this in each solar car while moving and rotating to each vehicle while moving in a continuous fashion?
I smell paper view...actually I bet it'd smell a bit fishy...It's all about the ratings damnit!!
Let us know if you're on the list & the lowdow
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If you are on the list do everyone a favor including yourself and let us know here. Keep us up to date on what's occuring and how you intend to fight it. Maybe the community here can help or atleast offer solid advice on how to proceed.
If I were to end up on the list I'd damn sure let everyone know and I'd fight it with everything I have.
Remember don't fund an entity that will only sue you into financial ruin. We can hurt them where it hurts them most...in the wallet. This is the only way to make a statement. Once these lawsuits start then the shit is really going to hit the fan and the backlash will be severe.
Think of it this way...what's more important violent crime or copyright violations? Well the RIAA is sending out so many subpoenas without judicial oversight I might add that court systems are having to redistribute their workers to cover the overwhelming workload. That means less work on violent, horrible crimes and more work on copyright infractions? This is beyond ridiculous!
Join the boycott starting August 1-30th and do not buy any music in this period.
InterTrust claims that its inventions cover technologies that Microsoft has been weaving into its Windows XP operating system, Office XP Suite, Windows Media Player, Xbox videogame console, and.NET networked computing platform, to name just a few. If settlement talks fail and InterTrust prevails in court, it would be entitled to a court order halting sales of all those products.
Talk about winnning the lottery. I bet SCO is envious as hell about this one because if Intertrust wins they are going to get paid beyond belief.
SCO in a last ditch attempt will try to claim Microsoft is stealing their IP also and fail miserably and slowly fade away into the abyss.
Since the newer console games seem to be buggier than usual I realized there could be a reason for this happening.
Xbox and PS2 are now network capable and you can dl new content for games and such so what about patches to fix games that were released and will be released in beta or even alpha states? The companies now have this option unlike the past so why don't they use it? Do they already use it? Maybe this is the reason they released their software before it was ready since they have the option to patch it now? I know it's pushed out the door regardless but they should patch what isn't working or accept returns on said games.
I can actually see the day coming where it's a pay-per-patch option only and I doubt people would bitch much. They'd just take it dry as always. It's sad since we have let the power switch to the developers and conglomerates instead of voting with our wallets.
The problem is people buy regardless of the games state i.e. beta state so they have no reason to wait until all bugs are released. Most consumers are conditioned to expect this lack of quality now so they have no one to blame but themselves.
Well if you want to go in true tech style there is a certain amount of gear that you will need to pack. 1) A GPS with visual maps not the ones without them. You can look for favorites within the GPS for cool places to visit plus you won't get loss...unless you're an idiot. 2) An IPOD so you can travel with your pirated/copyright infringed tunes to listen to at will without fear of a RIAA subpoena ending up on your doorstep. 3) Fujitsu Lifebook (built in Wifi) w/dvd player so you can carry around a db of numbers and contacts as well as the very important "Pr0n" for the road (movies, virtual girl, etc.). If you're not traveling with your gf/wife then you're going to need this release! 4) Digital phone for emergencies and/or road ho's you might want to contact you. 5) PDA for instant access to your contacts instead of booting up the Fujitsu. You really do need both!
Now points of interest and in no particular order...Nasa, The Bunny Ranch, Hollywood, Grand Canyon, Area 51, NV, Las Vegas, New York, Roswell, NM, Kenai, AK, Bigfoot Country in Washington/Oregon, Burning Man Festival, Family Values Tour, Tijuana, MX, Astroworld in Houston, TX, Bourbon St, in New Orleans, Scores in NY, and more if need be but that would encompass a lot. You should also stay true to backpacking and only travel on trains and by hitchhiking. What's cool about hitchhiking is when you get a ride and like the vehicle you can just steal it! This is what makes America so fun, safe, and GREAT!!!!
P.S. Buy a life insurance policy and don't let the people in Florida know you're a tourist..
This should affect Nvidia's stock price a bit. NVDA It looks like it's on it's way down again.
It's pretty amazing how a game can change a companies p/l margins and stock values these days but gaming is a multi-billion dollar industry so it's no joke. If anything Nvidia will come out with a new and better card which I'm sure will be geared towards Valve's HL 2 engine and a surge in sales will follow. Nvidia seems to be on the same course as 3dFX was. 3DFX used to own the video card market but became complacent and had no forward vision. Nvidia came from no where and stole the market and bought 3DFX out. I wonder if ATI will do the same to Nvidia? WHat comes around goes around..
HL 2 is a game that will probably be the biggest ever. I'm talking bigger than Q1/Q2/Q3, Bf1942, and even the original HL. I was never into HL but after the E3 movies I am. The big deal to me is a totally interactive environment. The old thinking or way of doing maps was to have a building made of a box covered with a flat texture. The texture consisted of windows, brick wood, etc.
Now take HL 2 and you have a building with more intricate and detailed textures, with bump mapping (so I've heard), and you can shoot out windows, go into the building and knock over furnishings, hide behind them, throw them at other people, get a coke from a vending machine then blow it up and watch all the sodas fly out from the inside of the machine. I am only scratching the suface in my desciption.
Another big deal is large scale maps with no visual loss of fps ala any quake engine game as well as others. Full facial animation, etc. I'm not sure if they have the body zone damage like SOF but I would think so. You can even duck under a running fan to lure an enemy into that if he doesn't duck it will chop off whatever bodie part isn't low enough.
I wan't to buy this game more for just exploring and the interaction than the gameplay. Take Vice City...even though it was interactive most places were the equivalent of a flat sprite form the doom days. Imagine that game with full interactivity. being able to go into any building, area and having that environment be the equivalent to the real world, materials, physics, etc. and you have a game that is going to take the FPS genre to another level.
Now all they have to do is take the gameplay to the next level...
Disposable Tech & Laziness + Big Macs
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We are a society of extremely wasteful people. Just look at the way products are packaged these days with all sorts of non-biodegradable plastics with infused chemicals. My parents just bought a set of the gardening gloves but they were packaged in a horizontal manner that consisted of dense plastics. They used to tie gloves in a bundle now they incase them in plastics for loss prevention.
I would have to say a lot of products these days are packaged in a way that's best to reduce theft. As far as technology goes I doubt much thought goes into designing a pc that can best be recycled unless it's already running windows.
I think compartmentalizing the hazardous material parts on any device in it's design would be of some service. That way if you chose not to sell your pc or whatever else you could just seperate the parts and drop them off at a technology device recycling center with a bin for each type of part. We need some of those as I have yet to see one...although they might have them somewhere.
So what I'm saying is in terms of pc's they don't have to design them to be biodegradable because that won't happen. Compartmentalize in an intelligent manner that is best suited for easily recycling the parts because there are a lot of lazy people out there who'd rather throw it away than deal with it.
Hopefully when the disposable dvd's come out they have recycling centers for those and they should be funded by the companies who developed the technology. Those who develop wasteful practices and methods in the days of trying to reduce the problem should be responsible for collecting and recycling their wasteful products.
In all actuality I just hope that consumers reject that idiotic disposable dvd shit but as I said before laziness could make it a massive success. I bet if they throw in a free Big Mac then that would almost guarantee success...
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I'm thinking that after Valve's E3 techdemo and their subsequent best of show awards with little mention of ID/D3 that ID were taken off guard. I'm sure they thought they'd waltz in there and floor the place but Valve came out of no where and blew the socks off of everything hands down.
I think ID realized that they would have to revamp somewhat and code additional features into the engine itself as well as enhance gameplay so the worlds would at the very least be as interactive as the worlds in HL2.
I've never been a HL fanboy the movies I've seen of in game play not cinematics are amazing! They have revolutionized gaming and are taking it in a new direction in terms of a fully interactive world. Go dl a movie of HL 2 off Kazaa or BT and see what I mean.
I had no intentions of purchasing HL 2 but after the tech-demo/in game movies I will now buy it.
I know this is all about file sharing and stopping P2P users from downloading copyrighted material but this issue has now transformed into something much larger.
The main issue is now your rights as guaranteed under our constitution. How the hell can the RIAA issue supoenas without judicial oversight? I'm not aware of any govermental department that can issue supoenas on a whim and on an as needed basis at the federal or local level. Our rights in the constitution guarantee us from unlawful prosecution so this RIAA gifted law as madated by paid off politicians is inherently flawed at it's core.
Is it going to take the RIAA busting in your house and holding you at gunpoint treating you as an enemy combatant to realize wtf is going on here? This is bordering on insanity. Prosecuting users at whim with little or no proof and throwing them into financial ruin over an mp3? These aren't the big fish or anywhere near it.
As said previously there is clear and open PIRACY not infringement in many foreign countries and our own where many elements play a part in mass producing cds and dvds to sell on the open market.
P2P is not the black market. It is the sampling pool for future purchasers of the product the RIAA is demonizing into something that is to be resented and despised. I know there are people out there who just dl and don't buy but my experience is most do buy but as our rights are restricted and our choices limited how long will the buying continue?
I myself no longer buy because I'm not supporting the RIAA period. I have never seen a group of supposedly savvy business people be so ignorant to what is going on in their own market.
Consumers are voting with their wallets so now they want to sue us into submission? How is this progressive thinking?
I will not let the RIAA impose what they think is best for me. I will not let the RIAA make my decisions on who, what, when, where, and how I listen and buy my music. I will not give into to this bullying and I will not support them again.
A business entity is buying laws that restrict our freedoms and making downloading entertainment a crime more severe than violent crime with much harsher punishment. I keep asking myself when will people wake up to this and do something or in this case nothing-meaning boycotting cd/music sales?
The ramifications for these laws being passed are far reaching so take a cold hard look at what's going on before it's too late...
I know this is a new economy and this makes business sense but what about Nationalism? I'm not talking Nazi-era nationalism. I'm talking about the true definition of Nationalism...
I know this is a new economy and this makes business sense but what about Nationalism? I'm not talking Nazi-era nationalism. I'm talking about the true definition of Nationalism...
nationalism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nsh-n-lzm, nshn-)
n.
Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.
The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals.
Aspirations for national independence in a country under foreign domination.
The key is "devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation". This is what we should be doing in a business sense. We rob our citizen's of jobs in an effort to enrich few. By supporting our economy and giving our citizens jobs we further enrich our future and our kids.
By continually outsourcing our jobs we shore up foreign economies at the expense of our own. At worse there should be arbitration between the companies and employees instead of moving jobs outside of the US.
I know this is a money issue but the big picture is what's most important. Exporting our jobs along with the technology which goes with it could be more dangerous to our economy than anyone could imagine. We already have technological espionage on our own soil so how is exporting the same technology safer and better form us?
There's also the other part of this argument where your foreign workers are working as slave labor. I thought we were a more civilized and caring society. Didn't Nike and Kathy Lee take it in the ass for having sweatshop workers making their products?
I don't think sending Frank Gifford into foreign countries, handing out cash to the poor will solve this issue....
Schwartzenegger $30 million for T3 Jim Carrey $20+ million a film Cameron Diaz $20+ million a film Mid Tier actors make around $10 million a film Lower Tier actors make around a few hundred thousand up to multiple millions
The at home user might dl a divx copy of a currently released film playing at the theaters only to go see it at the theater and/or buy it when it's released on DVD.
So the user at home spends around $9 to see the movie at the theater and another $20 to buy the DVD and the actors take many, many millions in salary to make the movie. How does this constitute taking money from the movie industry?
Who is actually taking the money (actors/marketing) and who is supporting the industry (user/consumer)? This is a very simple question without factoring in the obscene amount spent on marketing films. We're talking 10's of millions in marketing films.
It is not out fault that most movies these days are over budgeted and spend too much on marketing to turn a profit. This almost reminds me of the dot-com business model where they just spent to spend without having a sound business model in place.
Don't blame the consumer for your shortsidedness and/or lack of envisioning a film's realistic chances of making money.
This is definitely the day of scape-goating at the pc user/consumer's expense. They can get creative with the books anymore so now it's time to blame the consumer and spend money in support of the propoganda. What better way to distratct shareholders and such from realizing it's just bad business decisions and irresponsibility!
Once again I'm still exersizing my right to boycott because I refuse to support an entity that will only try to sue me into financial ruin with the money I give them.
Just as music has fewer mega hits the gaming industry will too. There is more music out there than ever before so spreading out funds for music is more pervasive. I think this applies to games. If you look at the amount of games coming out these days, on any platform, you'll notice there are 1000's of choices to chose from. If you own multiple consoles, a pc, a handheld, and have to purchase games for each platform with the same amount of money you used to only buy for one console then you'll see why there are less mega titles.
I'm thinking that if they used Postal 2 right out of the box then the depressed might feel better after playing. Give someone who's depressed a chance to walk freely around a virtual community, killing innocent civilians, causing mayhem within a parade, flame torching elephants, and pissing on all those previously mentioned could be the equivalent of virtual prozac. The obvious plus is lower health care costs as passed on to the consumer...you.
Maybe they should test this with US Postal employees first?
I'm all for the new choice in buying music as I am currently boycotting the RIAA because I refuse to feed the coffers of an entity out to sue the average joe into financial ruin but with the nazi-ish drm I won't buy into this service.
Give me the same fair use as I get with a non-copy protected cd and I will be a great customer.
Give me a buggy, drm-to-the-nine, proprietary format of which I can't do shit with and I will never be a customer.
Why is this so hard to comprehend? What ever company and/or labels chose to accept and move forward with mp3's that offer fair use will corner the market on the net.
The companies/labels that flood money into dev time trying to come up with an unhackable protection are only wasting time and money because there is no such thing as hack proof and they will never stop unauthorized copyright violations. Yes unauthorized copyright violations not stealing. Move forward and actually look at this in a business sense and not an old-school, protect my archaeic business model at all costs, vindictive, alienate the consumer tactic as we currently see.
I wonder if these new id's will implement the "red crystal on the hand" technology as demonstrated in the movie "Logan's Run"? If so and you are nearing your 30th birthday then you might want to leave it at home....or you could just explode...
It's nice to see this service starting to expand into indy music. I don't use the service but I support it because it's gives us all another choice. I think if they do a windows version then we'll really start to see an impact. You really can't lose with low prices and ease of use. Even if a person is anti-mac they can't deny that this service will be what the Ipod was to the old school mp3 players. I would also add that I am not a mac user but I can recognize quality no matter where it comes from.
Slashdot Mirror
Oops I messed his name up.
It's Spencer Tunick
His site and you'll know what I mean..
Maybe they could further exploit this phenomenon by incorporating Stuart Tunic's (sp?) work?
Flash mob flashing people....you know...whole shit like that
Dearest close minded, stereotyping troll,
So many ways to start this but just let me begin with the obvious. Just because you are so uninformed as to not see the further implaications of the laws the RIAA is passing doesn't make you any smarter than people here. What is does is show you for what you are...a fucking idiot who bases his world view on the very little he knows on subjects completely out of his realm. If you think this is strictly about downloading music then you're a fucking idiot but that's already been established.
You go on to say we are little isolated pockets of folks, nerds, and college students. Well mr uninformed stereo typing llama let me give you a little background on myself since you seem to lump everyone together because the all fight for the same cause. I'm a man over 30, I have a beautiful girlfriend, more beautiful than you'll ever know. I get laid daily and I'm talking more than missionary:). I have a great job. I enjoy my free time outdoors camping and I also race sport quads. I donate time to the SPCA and help out other people as much as possible. I don't wear taped glasses. Women love me and I'm no where near a dork. This isn't egocentricity. I am saying these things to shed light on myself and point out that just because one is opinionated and loves technology then that does not make him or her a dork.
The word geek I do like because IRL it means you're into cool shit that "Joe Average" knows shit about (see my description of you earlier).
Another thing that shows you for the analy-birthed, troll you are is you add nothing to the conversation other than calling Cringely stupid. THANK YOU TROLL! You have given us the answers we have all been searching for. You have enlightened us beyond belief and we owe you more than gratitude...we owe you are our lives!
I love you "except you kids" comment as if adults can't still believe in something so important and so unimportant as you deem it to be but that is strictly from your lack of understanding and comprehension of what's happening. Read some not on downloading music but on the laws being passed and how they could slowly revoke the freedoms that many American's died for to protect.
If you have kids do you want there future to be based on what the goverment thinks is best for them? Do you want the goverment of a business to tell them who, what, when, why and how they should buy, consume, and live their lives? Do you want your kids to live a life as free as your's?
If so read up on what's going on and maybe you'll have an idea of what everyone is so pissed off about. Until then SHUT THE FUCK up and keep trolling because your true colors shine through your bullshit arguments, stereotyping, and ignorant comments.
Once again Shut your fucking piehole.
They should have done this instead of letting the cat out of the bag. No doubt people visit /. to get a feel for what's happening but they will read or hear about this idea and slip it into the drm. At least start this idea up and once the RIAA sues just let it go back and forth through the courts for years until this thing is settled.
I cannot think of one company or individual excluding sadam or OBL that is more despised currently. The RIAA is obviously done caring about how people view them and I can finally see users are starting to turn on them in droves. They really think we need to buy music so badly that we won't stop no matter what they do. They have obviously underestimated the American public.
Play your games, buy laws, sue people into financial ruin but understand your industry will not go unpunished. Your days are numbered as are the days of ripping off the artists who are on your labels. Your industry's death may be slow but the writings on the wall and there's not a law you can pass or enough users for you to sue to save it.
Kiss it all goodbye for you are an archaeic industry who has over stayed it's welcome in the country where freedom of choice matters and consumers ultimately decide what stay and what goes.
RIAA you're gone....
Some have already sold their soul, and for them the choice no longer exists. For the millions of others the day to make the choice is approaching soon. For about a 1000 the day of making the choice has approached. Will all of them be divided and individually be chopped to pieces, or will they recognize that providence has brought them together under a single banner - and now they must stick together, serve as the nucleus of this revolution, and even as the coalesce together, pull in together the millions of others who when presented with two choices will choose to join the "1000 Nodes of Light."
Although you put this is a nice and beautifully romantic light I can tell you right now that these people will fold like a deck of cards. They will be the equivalent of a "rat" in the mob. When you have companies of this size it comes down to self-preservation and lving to fight another day.
I don't see how joining together will help their cause although some kind of class action suit might be in order as long as the proper angle is chosen.
Speaking for myself I'd fight it but if I couldn't find a great lawyer then it'd be pointless. If I could get a big name lawyer pro-bon then it'd be on and we'd put the whole system on trial.
If you are to fight this battle then it has to be more than a P2P vs RIAA. Is has to stretch into rights guaranteed by the constitution and fair use of purchased products. I'd also mention law makers having a certain industry flooding them with massive amounts of cash. There really is plenty here to debate and go to war about but it's going to take the right set of circumstances to pull it off. I'm down.
This is really a revolution of epic proportion no matter what one thinks. We're not talking P2P only. We're talking about our rights more than anything else here and that's the genesis of the argument IMHFO!
Through the war on terrorism we are giving up certain rights and now with P2P we are giving up further rights. How many rights do we have to give up for people to get it?
Search warrants with no reason?
Subpoenas by the recording association with no judicial oversight?
Email monitoring?
Wake the fuck up people and fight this shit with all you've got or the "big brother" days will be here sooner than you think and then you can forget about the freedoms you used to have.
This isn't flamebait at all but it's none of your business what a person does in their own time on their personal computer. Absolutely none of your business. If you have a problem with people using P2p then don't service their pc's.
I can't believe you confront them on the legality of it all. If you tried that with me I'd tell you to stfu and mind your own business but I fix my own boxes so I won't be seeing you anytime soon.
I am not ashamed nor do I feel guilty. Most of all I won't repent so save your b.s. for someone who has no backbone or self respect. I can't believe no one has bitch slapped u yet.
To the dipshit mod who marked this off topic...
The practice of publicizing accusations of political disloyalty or subversion with insufficient regard to evidence.
The use of unfair investigatory or accusatory methods in order to suppress opposition.
Wow doesn't this sound like the RIAA's tactics?
Snippet above was in my previous post and is totally on topic so who ever the mod was...you're a fucking idiot and the epitome of why mods are rotated constantly. Feel free to mark this post as flamebait:D
I used the following terms in a post today and felt they needed to be added to my list of terms.... :
CD-Socialism/Stalinism/McCarthyism
CD-Socialism:add CD to the following definition and it's a definite possibility of what's coming..socialism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ssh-lzm)
n.
Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
CD-Stalinism:Ok add CD to the following definition but remove the stuff relating to Stalin?Marxist shit at the end..Stalinism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (stäl-nzm)
n.
The bureaucratic, authoritarian exercise of state power and mechanistic application (ignore)of Marxist-Leninist principles associated with Stalin.(/ignore)
CD-McCartyism:Add CD in front of the following.. McCarthyism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-kärth-zm)
n.
The practice of publicizing accusations of political disloyalty or subversion with insufficient regard to evidence.
The use of unfair investigatory or accusatory methods in order to suppress opposition.
Wow doesn't this sound like the RIAA's tactics?
The vast majority of prosecutions of violent criminals take place at the state and local level, not the federal level, which is where DOJ s jurisdiction lies. However, in those instances where there are federal violent crimes, the penalties are more severe than those imposed for copyright infringement. For example, as mentioned, the *maximum* sentence you can receive for one count of copyright infringement is 60 months, while the *minimum* for someone convicted federally of aggravated sexual assault is generally between 70 to 87 months.
This guy must think we are stupid. First off he says ONE count of copyright infringement and we know whoever is charged will be charged with more than one count. If it's a per song basis like their $150,000 so-called loss then then counts would seem to follow. Let's think small and go with someone sharing 5 songs. Let's charge them with 5 counts of copyright infringement and charge them with a medium figure of 2.5 years per infringement. That's 10 years and a $750,000 so-called loss. You would do less jail time is you beat and raped a stranger and that's just what the lawyer is saying in his encrypted law-speak. Break it down for yourself.
Now take this very conservative figure and add in other miscelleneous charges and you could be looking at a lot of time along with an amount of money you could never pay back. These are penalties that outweigh the copyright infringement...not crime. Think about someone sharing 100's of songs and look at what they're up against.
Whoever is charged needs to fight with everything they've got because if we make it easy for them then it'll be a "take a number" mentality of which they will process us like cows headed to slaughter. Maybe this is a new business model? If they we don't spend money on their products then they'll take it from us and actually make more and in the future have much more control.
I'll call it CD-socialism...or maybe CD-stalinism would be more fitting. All of this would also include CD-Mccarthyism to generate fear and paranoia. It's what we have to look forward to if we don't make our voices heard and stop buying their shit. If we buy or not they will always use the P2P excuse so don't let that bullshit argument keep you from boycotting. I'm done buying and have been for many months. I don't see myself going back unless an about face is made sometime in the near future.
I say we can change things but we all have to work in unison to get it done on a large scale level....
How about the American Solar Challenge/Houston 700? We know she can do 660 at a sitting but can she do 700? How about have her do this in each solar car while moving and rotating to each vehicle while moving in a continuous fashion?
I smell paper view...actually I bet it'd smell a bit fishy...It's all about the ratings damnit!!
If you are on the list do everyone a favor including yourself and let us know here. Keep us up to date on what's occuring and how you intend to fight it. Maybe the community here can help or atleast offer solid advice on how to proceed.
If I were to end up on the list I'd damn sure let everyone know and I'd fight it with everything I have.
Remember don't fund an entity that will only sue you into financial ruin. We can hurt them where it hurts them most...in the wallet. This is the only way to make a statement. Once these lawsuits start then the shit is really going to hit the fan and the backlash will be severe.
Think of it this way...what's more important violent crime or copyright violations? Well the RIAA is sending out so many subpoenas without judicial oversight I might add that court systems are having to redistribute their workers to cover the overwhelming workload. That means less work on violent, horrible crimes and more work on copyright infractions? This is beyond ridiculous!
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InterTrust claims that its inventions cover technologies that Microsoft has been weaving into its Windows XP operating system, Office XP Suite, Windows Media Player, Xbox videogame console, and .NET networked computing platform, to name just a few. If settlement talks fail and InterTrust prevails in court, it would be entitled to a court order halting sales of all those products.
Talk about winnning the lottery. I bet SCO is envious as hell about this one because if Intertrust wins they are going to get paid beyond belief.
SCO in a last ditch attempt will try to claim Microsoft is stealing their IP also and fail miserably and slowly fade away into the abyss.
Since the newer console games seem to be buggier than usual I realized there could be a reason for this happening.
Xbox and PS2 are now network capable and you can dl new content for games and such so what about patches to fix games that were released and will be released in beta or even alpha states? The companies now have this option unlike the past so why don't they use it? Do they already use it?
Maybe this is the reason they released their software before it was ready since they have the option to patch it now? I know it's pushed out the door regardless but they should patch what isn't working or accept returns on said games.
I can actually see the day coming where it's a pay-per-patch option only and I doubt people would bitch much. They'd just take it dry as always. It's sad since we have let the power switch to the developers and conglomerates instead of voting with our wallets.
The problem is people buy regardless of the games state i.e. beta state so they have no reason to wait until all bugs are released. Most consumers are conditioned to expect this lack of quality now so they have no one to blame but themselves.
Well if you want to go in true tech style there is a certain amount of gear that you will need to pack. 1) A GPS with visual maps not the ones without them. You can look for favorites within the GPS for cool places to visit plus you won't get loss...unless you're an idiot. 2) An IPOD so you can travel with your pirated/copyright infringed tunes to listen to at will without fear of a RIAA subpoena ending up on your doorstep. 3) Fujitsu Lifebook (built in Wifi) w/dvd player so you can carry around a db of numbers and contacts as well as the very important "Pr0n" for the road (movies, virtual girl, etc.). If you're not traveling with your gf/wife then you're going to need this release! 4) Digital phone for emergencies and/or road ho's you might want to contact you. 5) PDA for instant access to your contacts instead of booting up the Fujitsu. You really do need both!
Now points of interest and in no particular order...Nasa, The Bunny Ranch, Hollywood, Grand Canyon, Area 51, NV, Las Vegas, New York, Roswell, NM, Kenai, AK, Bigfoot Country in Washington/Oregon, Burning Man Festival, Family Values Tour, Tijuana, MX, Astroworld in Houston, TX, Bourbon St, in New Orleans, Scores in NY, and more if need be but that would encompass a lot. You should also stay true to backpacking and only travel on trains and by hitchhiking. What's cool about hitchhiking is when you get a ride and like the vehicle you can just steal it! This is what makes America so fun, safe, and GREAT!!!!
P.S. Buy a life insurance policy and don't let the people in Florida know you're a tourist..
This should affect Nvidia's stock price a bit. NVDA It looks like it's on it's way down again.
It's pretty amazing how a game can change a companies p/l margins and stock values these days but gaming is a multi-billion dollar industry so it's no joke. If anything Nvidia will come out with a new and better card which I'm sure will be geared towards Valve's HL 2 engine and a surge in sales will follow. Nvidia seems to be on the same course as 3dFX was. 3DFX used to own the video card market but became complacent and had no forward vision. Nvidia came from no where and stole the market and bought 3DFX out. I wonder if ATI will do the same to Nvidia? WHat comes around goes around..
HL 2 is a game that will probably be the biggest ever. I'm talking bigger than Q1/Q2/Q3, Bf1942, and even the original HL. I was never into HL but after the E3 movies I am. The big deal to me is a totally interactive environment. The old thinking or way of doing maps was to have a building made of a box covered with a flat texture. The texture consisted of windows, brick wood, etc.
Now take HL 2 and you have a building with more intricate and detailed textures, with bump mapping (so I've heard), and you can shoot out windows, go into the building and knock over furnishings, hide behind them, throw them at other people, get a coke from a vending machine then blow it up and watch all the sodas fly out from the inside of the machine. I am only scratching the suface in my desciption.
Another big deal is large scale maps with no visual loss of fps ala any quake engine game as well as others. Full facial animation, etc. I'm not sure if they have the body zone damage like SOF but I would think so. You can even duck under a running fan to lure an enemy into that if he doesn't duck it will chop off whatever bodie part isn't low enough.
I wan't to buy this game more for just exploring and the interaction than the gameplay. Take Vice City...even though it was interactive most places were the equivalent of a flat sprite form the doom days. Imagine that game with full interactivity. being able to go into any building, area and having that environment be the equivalent to the real world, materials, physics, etc. and you have a game that is going to take the FPS genre to another level.
Now all they have to do is take the gameplay to the next level...
We are a society of extremely wasteful people. Just look at the way products are packaged these days with all sorts of non-biodegradable plastics with infused chemicals. My parents just bought a set of the gardening gloves but they were packaged in a horizontal manner that consisted of dense plastics. They used to tie gloves in a bundle now they incase them in plastics for loss prevention.
I would have to say a lot of products these days are packaged in a way that's best to reduce theft. As far as technology goes I doubt much thought goes into designing a pc that can best be recycled unless it's already running windows.
I think compartmentalizing the hazardous material parts on any device in it's design would be of some service. That way if you chose not to sell your pc or whatever else you could just seperate the parts and drop them off at a technology device recycling center with a bin for each type of part. We need some of those as I have yet to see one...although they might have them somewhere.
So what I'm saying is in terms of pc's they don't have to design them to be biodegradable because that won't happen. Compartmentalize in an intelligent manner that is best suited for easily recycling the parts because there are a lot of lazy people out there who'd rather throw it away than deal with it.
Hopefully when the disposable dvd's come out they have recycling centers for those and they should be funded by the companies who developed the technology. Those who develop wasteful practices and methods in the days of trying to reduce the problem should be responsible for collecting and recycling their wasteful products.
In all actuality I just hope that consumers reject that idiotic disposable dvd shit but as I said before laziness could make it a massive success. I bet if they throw in a free Big Mac then that would almost guarantee success...
I'm thinking that after Valve's E3 techdemo and their subsequent best of show awards with little mention of ID/D3 that ID were taken off guard. I'm sure they thought they'd waltz in there and floor the place but Valve came out of no where and blew the socks off of everything hands down.
I think ID realized that they would have to revamp somewhat and code additional features into the engine itself as well as enhance gameplay so the worlds would at the very least be as interactive as the worlds in HL2.
I've never been a HL fanboy the movies I've seen of in game play not cinematics are amazing! They have revolutionized gaming and are taking it in a new direction in terms of a fully interactive world. Go dl a movie of HL 2 off Kazaa or BT and see what I mean.
I had no intentions of purchasing HL 2 but after the tech-demo/in game movies I will now buy it.
I know this is all about file sharing and stopping P2P users from downloading copyrighted material but this issue has now transformed into something much larger.
The main issue is now your rights as guaranteed under our constitution. How the hell can the RIAA issue supoenas without judicial oversight? I'm not aware of any govermental department that can issue supoenas on a whim and on an as needed basis at the federal or local level. Our rights in the constitution guarantee us from unlawful prosecution so this RIAA gifted law as madated by paid off politicians is inherently flawed at it's core.
Is it going to take the RIAA busting in your house and holding you at gunpoint treating you as an enemy combatant to realize wtf is going on here? This is bordering on insanity. Prosecuting users at whim with little or no proof and throwing them into financial ruin over an mp3? These aren't the big fish or anywhere near it.
As said previously there is clear and open PIRACY not infringement in many foreign countries and our own where many elements play a part in mass producing cds and dvds to sell on the open market.
P2P is not the black market.
It is the sampling pool for future purchasers of the product the RIAA is demonizing into something that is to be resented and despised. I know there are people out there who just dl and don't buy but my experience is most do buy but as our rights are restricted and our choices limited how long will the buying continue?
I myself no longer buy because I'm not supporting the RIAA period. I have never seen a group of supposedly savvy business people be so ignorant to what is going on in their own market.
Consumers are voting with their wallets so now they want to sue us into submission? How is this progressive thinking?
I will not let the RIAA impose what they think is best for me.
I will not let the RIAA make my decisions on who, what, when, where, and how I listen and buy my music.
I will not give into to this bullying and I will not support them again.
A business entity is buying laws that restrict our freedoms and making downloading entertainment a crime more severe than violent crime with much harsher punishment. I keep asking myself when will people wake up to this and do something or in this case nothing-meaning boycotting cd/music sales?
The ramifications for these laws being passed are far reaching so take a cold hard look at what's going on before it's too late...
I know this is a new economy and this makes business sense but what about Nationalism? I'm not talking Nazi-era nationalism. I'm talking about the true definition of Nationalism...
I know this is a new economy and this makes business sense but what about Nationalism? I'm not talking Nazi-era nationalism. I'm talking about the true definition of Nationalism...
nationalism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nsh-n-lzm, nshn-) n.
Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.
The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals.
Aspirations for national independence in a country under foreign domination.
The key is "devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation". This is what we should be doing in a business sense. We rob our citizen's of jobs in an effort to enrich few. By supporting our economy and giving our citizens jobs we further enrich our future and our kids.
By continually outsourcing our jobs we shore up foreign economies at the expense of our own. At worse there should be arbitration between the companies and employees instead of moving jobs outside of the US.
I know this is a money issue but the big picture is what's most important. Exporting our jobs along with the technology which goes with it could be more dangerous to our economy than anyone could imagine. We already have technological espionage on our own soil so how is exporting the same technology safer and better form us?
There's also the other part of this argument where your foreign workers are working as slave labor. I thought we were a more civilized and caring society. Didn't Nike and Kathy Lee take it in the ass for having sweatshop workers making their products?
I don't think sending Frank Gifford into foreign countries, handing out cash to the poor will solve this issue....
Schwartzenegger $30 million for T3
Jim Carrey $20+ million a film
Cameron Diaz $20+ million a film
Mid Tier actors make around $10 million a film
Lower Tier actors make around a few hundred thousand up to multiple millions
The at home user might dl a divx copy of a currently released film playing at the theaters only to go see it at the theater and/or buy it when it's released on DVD.
So the user at home spends around $9 to see the movie at the theater and another $20 to buy the DVD and the actors take many, many millions in salary to make the movie. How does this constitute taking money from the movie industry?
Who is actually taking the money (actors/marketing) and who is supporting the industry (user/consumer)? This is a very simple question without factoring in the obscene amount spent on marketing films. We're talking 10's of millions in marketing films.
It is not out fault that most movies these days are over budgeted and spend too much on marketing to turn a profit. This almost reminds me of the dot-com business model where they just spent to spend without having a sound business model in place.
Don't blame the consumer for your shortsidedness and/or lack of envisioning a film's realistic chances of making money.
This is definitely the day of scape-goating at the pc user/consumer's expense. They can get creative with the books anymore so now it's time to blame the consumer and spend money in support of the propoganda. What better way to distratct shareholders and such from realizing it's just bad business decisions and irresponsibility!
Once again I'm still exersizing my right to boycott because I refuse to support an entity that will only try to sue me into financial ruin with the money I give them.
Just as music has fewer mega hits the gaming industry will too. There is more music out there than ever before so spreading out funds for music is more pervasive. I think this applies to games. If you look at the amount of games coming out these days, on any platform, you'll notice there are 1000's of choices to chose from. If you own multiple consoles, a pc, a handheld, and have to purchase games for each platform with the same amount of money you used to only buy for one console then you'll see why there are less mega titles.
I'm thinking that if they used Postal 2 right out of the box then the depressed might feel better after playing. Give someone who's depressed a chance to walk freely around a virtual community, killing innocent civilians, causing mayhem within a parade, flame torching elephants, and pissing on all those previously mentioned could be the equivalent of virtual prozac. The obvious plus is lower health care costs as passed on to the consumer...you.
Maybe they should test this with US Postal employees first?
I'm all for the new choice in buying music as I am currently boycotting the RIAA because I refuse to feed the coffers of an entity out to sue the average joe into financial ruin but with the nazi-ish drm I won't buy into this service.
Give me the same fair use as I get with a non-copy protected cd and I will be a great customer.
Give me a buggy, drm-to-the-nine, proprietary format of which I can't do shit with and I will never be a customer.
Why is this so hard to comprehend? What ever company and/or labels chose to accept and move forward with mp3's that offer fair use will corner the market on the net.
The companies/labels that flood money into dev time trying to come up with an unhackable protection are only wasting time and money because there is no such thing as hack proof and they will never stop unauthorized copyright violations. Yes unauthorized copyright violations not stealing. Move forward and actually look at this in a business sense and not an old-school, protect my archaeic business model at all costs, vindictive, alienate the consumer tactic as we currently see.
I wonder if these new id's will implement the "red crystal on the hand" technology as demonstrated in the movie "Logan's Run"? If so and you are nearing your 30th birthday then you might want to leave it at home....or you could just explode...
It's nice to see this service starting to expand into indy music. I don't use the service but I support it because it's gives us all another choice. I think if they do a windows version then we'll really start to see an impact. You really can't lose with low prices and ease of use. Even if a person is anti-mac they can't deny that this service will be what the Ipod was to the old school mp3 players. I would also add that I am not a mac user but I can recognize quality no matter where it comes from.