I'd kick him right the fuck out of the meeting. Maybe even fire him, anybody who thinks that's cool is too dorky to be a geek. Kind of like the guys that say "porno" instead of "porn". Porno sounds like a fat guy, porn sounds like a manly growl.
Dell has the worst phone system I've ever been cursed to use. To simply order a new battery for a laptop involved about 7 transfers and was just a complete pain in the ass. I try to avoid doing business with them, both their phone and web systems suck. Too much extraneous information, having to enter your machine serial just to download a driver. Sure, that's nice if you are inexperienced. But having to run back and look at a server just to get a driver for a NIC that you already know the model number of and intended platform is just an unneeded pain in the ass.
Yes, the death of the astronauts last year was very sad, but even sadder is that now they are so worried about someone getting hurt that even willing participants are not allowed to go fix a damn telescope!
And people got killed in the WTC, and we do nothing but make it tougher to get on an airplane. It's all gotta be perfectly safe!
Don't worry, nobody lives forever... Take some risks while you can. Die on your feet instead of your knees.
A huge (glass) greenhouse for growing hydroponic tomatos near me (central Nebraska) has one of those annoying things. Whenever conditions are favorable for hail, the thing goes off, sounds like someone shooting a large shotgun every five seconds, which goes on for hour after hour. I can't think of anything more annoying. Everybody in town hates the thing, and in fact some redneck types (We are in Nebraska after all) think it's great fun to shoot their (real) shotguns in the air when this is going on, as the greenhouse blasts provide great cover.
Perhaps metal shielding on a conveyor system to be pulled over would be much better to deal with. Maybe more expensive, but this is fucking ridiculous.
You've got a distorted concept of what should be on the front tier. I guess what you're saying is that what I asked about cannot be done. Even with JSPs, the code is executed on a middleware server everywhere I've worked.
OE? Why do we care what he used to email this techspec?
And ME? The Millenium Edition would be well over 400 years old by the time this was written, who would still be using Windows 1000 (Win1K) by then? With no support or bug fixes for around 390 yeards. WTF? And what do the French have to do with ME?
Darnit, the sentence "There's a big difference between splitting functionality up between two (or more) servers, and actually building a serious, redundant, scalable nTier architecture." should have read:
There's a big difference between splitting functionality up between two (or more) servers, actually building a serious, redundant, scalable nTier architecture, and simply running the ASP.NET stuff in an out-of-process mode.
Actually, I don't need to know how to run IIS itself in a redundant mode, WLBS or a Cisco Content Switch or Local Director would do that part just fine. I'm purely concerned with running the ASP.NET stuff on a separate server. That's the part I haven't seen anything about in the Microsoft world.
I'm not talking out of process, give me more credit than that. You could do that with oldschool ASP. (Non-.NET ASP) I'm talking multi-server.
Here's what I want to know: How can one set up an architecture with two servers where Server One runs ONLY IIS and handles all the web traffic, and passes all its ASP.NET processing off to Server Two, which only does ASP.NET processing?
After that, assuming you can do that, then how do you go about scaling that with Windows? Where you have multiple IIS boxes passing their ASP.NET pplication functionality to multiple ASP.NET servers. A true nTier architecture without going vertical and running web serving and application processing on the same server.
For extra points, show me how to do it without having any web serving processes running on the application servers!
There's a big difference between splitting functionality up between two (or more) servers, and actually building a serious, redundant, scalable nTier architecture.
"Voting for a third party in this country basically equates to not participating in the political system."
Utter, complete bullshit. You are spouting the Two-Party Party Line. That's probably the same line the Whig party used when they had power in the 1800s.
Voting for a third party is the best example of participating in the political system there is, other than convincing large numbers of people to vote for a third party.
America is so overdue for the rise of a third party, and is becoming so inbred and stale from the constant powerhold by the Republicrats for too long.
Maybe, but you have to admit that scratching pales in comparison to playing some John Myung (Dream Theater) at full speed on a six-string bass. (I play bass too:) )
Sorry, it might be a little tricky, but I refuse to give any "skreaky-skreaky" guy the same respect as an accomplished guitar player. We're talking about magnitudes of skill level between the two.
You don't have an expectation to not be VIEWED by other PEOPLE in public. However, I do have a reasonable expectation to not be RECORDED by MACHINES while in public.
Uh, no. You're buying into the Microsoft delusion that the web server itself should support application level functionality.
The web server should always be simply a front-end to the application server. The web server functionality built into the application servers is very limiting. Let the web server be the web server, let the app server be the app server - Don't mix them up.
Put in Apache to handle the normal requests, with the appropriate Apache module to connect to the app server and pass the app server code requests to the app server (via the connector module) to be processed there, while leaving Apache free to serve normal web content.
This gives you the best of both worlds in performance and configurability. Any other way is buying into some marketing idiot's dream.
Oh, how long until we can stop having to listen/deal with people who are impressed with turning a record back and forth with their hands? So fucking lame.
Skreaky... Skreaky... Skreaky... Ain't I a kewl DJ-dude? Fuck dude, step away from the Close and Play already...
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Good question, does anybody know? Is is the final rating, or the elements of the rating?
What about Linux for a StrongARM processor, WITH transcriber (handwriting) support? Is it out there somewhere?
I'd kick him right the fuck out of the meeting. Maybe even fire him, anybody who thinks that's cool is too dorky to be a geek. Kind of like the guys that say "porno" instead of "porn". Porno sounds like a fat guy, porn sounds like a manly growl.
Dell has the worst phone system I've ever been cursed to use. To simply order a new battery for a laptop involved about 7 transfers and was just a complete pain in the ass. I try to avoid doing business with them, both their phone and web systems suck. Too much extraneous information, having to enter your machine serial just to download a driver. Sure, that's nice if you are inexperienced. But having to run back and look at a server just to get a driver for a NIC that you already know the model number of and intended platform is just an unneeded pain in the ass.
Yes, the death of the astronauts last year was very sad, but even sadder is that now they are so worried about someone getting hurt that even willing participants are not allowed to go fix a damn telescope!
And people got killed in the WTC, and we do nothing but make it tougher to get on an airplane. It's all gotta be perfectly safe!
Don't worry, nobody lives forever... Take some risks while you can. Die on your feet instead of your knees.
A huge (glass) greenhouse for growing hydroponic tomatos near me (central Nebraska) has one of those annoying things. Whenever conditions are favorable for hail, the thing goes off, sounds like someone shooting a large shotgun every five seconds, which goes on for hour after hour. I can't think of anything more annoying. Everybody in town hates the thing, and in fact some redneck types (We are in Nebraska after all) think it's great fun to shoot their (real) shotguns in the air when this is going on, as the greenhouse blasts provide great cover.
Perhaps metal shielding on a conveyor system to be pulled over would be much better to deal with. Maybe more expensive, but this is fucking ridiculous.
Ooh, good one - mod that up, best argument I've heard yet!
Uh, see the first sentence "We have just announced the Sardonix source code security auditing portal." in the original post???
Try CLICKING on the word "Sardonix" (In the original 2002 article) and see where that takes you. Fuck man, some people...
You've got a distorted concept of what should be on the front tier. I guess what you're saying is that what I asked about cannot be done. Even with JSPs, the code is executed on a middleware server everywhere I've worked.
Maybe the Goatse man IS George Lucas
OE? Why do we care what he used to email this techspec?
And ME? The Millenium Edition would be well over 400 years old by the time this was written, who would still be using Windows 1000 (Win1K) by then? With no support or bug fixes for around 390 yeards. WTF? And what do the French have to do with ME?
Darnit, the sentence "There's a big difference between splitting functionality up between two (or more) servers, and actually building a serious, redundant, scalable nTier architecture." should have read:
There's a big difference between splitting functionality up between two (or more) servers, actually building a serious, redundant, scalable nTier architecture, and simply running the ASP.NET stuff in an out-of-process mode.
Actually, I don't need to know how to run IIS itself in a redundant mode, WLBS or a Cisco Content Switch or Local Director would do that part just fine. I'm purely concerned with running the ASP.NET stuff on a separate server. That's the part I haven't seen anything about in the Microsoft world.
I'm not talking out of process, give me more credit than that. You could do that with oldschool ASP. (Non-.NET ASP) I'm talking multi-server.
Here's what I want to know: How can one set up an architecture with two servers where Server One runs ONLY IIS and handles all the web traffic, and passes all its ASP.NET processing off to Server Two, which only does ASP.NET processing?
After that, assuming you can do that, then how do you go about scaling that with Windows? Where you have multiple IIS boxes passing their ASP.NET pplication functionality to multiple ASP.NET servers. A true nTier architecture without going vertical and running web serving and application processing on the same server.
For extra points, show me how to do it without having any web serving processes running on the application servers!
There's a big difference between splitting functionality up between two (or more) servers, and actually building a serious, redundant, scalable nTier architecture.
Would like to see your answer to that...
Is that Perennial, as in Bruce Perens? :)
Wasn't that the matriarchal religion in Frank Herbert's Dune? The Bene Deseret I think... :)
> Will slashdot ever drag itself into the year 2004 and provide the ability to edit posts?
Yah, about the same time you learn to start using the Preview button...
"Voting for a third party in this country basically equates to not participating in the political system."
Utter, complete bullshit. You are spouting the Two-Party Party Line. That's probably the same line the Whig party used when they had power in the 1800s.
Voting for a third party is the best example of participating in the political system there is, other than convincing large numbers of people to vote for a third party.
America is so overdue for the rise of a third party, and is becoming so inbred and stale from the constant powerhold by the Republicrats for too long.
Maybe, but you have to admit that scratching pales in comparison to playing some John Myung (Dream Theater) at full speed on a six-string bass. (I play bass too :) )
Sorry, it might be a little tricky, but I refuse to give any "skreaky-skreaky" guy the same respect as an accomplished guitar player. We're talking about magnitudes of skill level between the two.
Maybe the part that runs ASP/ASP.NET code? Out of the box, with no additional software to install. I dunno... Who's deluded?
Is it possible that the Jonathan Darrell Mayhew in Granbury is Chewbacca's son? If so, he stole a couple cars... :)
You don't have an expectation to not be VIEWED by other PEOPLE in public. However, I do have a reasonable expectation to not be RECORDED by MACHINES while in public.
This is the real issue.
It a way of measuring how bad a coke problem someone has...
And praytell good suh, WTF is a pram? Something like a PROM?
Uh, no. You're buying into the Microsoft delusion that the web server itself should support application level functionality.
The web server should always be simply a front-end to the application server. The web server functionality built into the application servers is very limiting. Let the web server be the web server, let the app server be the app server - Don't mix them up.
Put in Apache to handle the normal requests, with the appropriate Apache module to connect to the app server and pass the app server code requests to the app server (via the connector module) to be processed there, while leaving Apache free to serve normal web content.
This gives you the best of both worlds in performance and configurability. Any other way is buying into some marketing idiot's dream.
Oh, how long until we can stop having to listen/deal with people who are impressed with turning a record back and forth with their hands? So fucking lame.
Skreaky... Skreaky... Skreaky... Ain't I a kewl DJ-dude? Fuck dude, step away from the Close and Play already...